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Neotox, is that you?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg13887541#msg13887541

I guess that's the risk of buying accounts.

you expecting me here?  :P

After your two messages in 20 minutes about me removing my negative from that exact account, yes.

you only believe what you see :P

I saw your previous post about the "rest or mind treatment" I supposedly need.
I didn't take it too positive, but I value your opinion.
So you care for your customers, next step would be caring for the accounts you sell and where they come from.

why the only my account from the list was tagged when its ownership was changed already and any blind person can see that from security log

Security log doesn't prove who changed the password. The whole, I bought this account and etc has been used before. Not saying this is what you did, instead trying to show you why account buying can be risking.

A user with common sense can get idea from security log that account ownership is changed

You telling me a scammer can't change their own password and claim the same thing? A user with common sense would also understand that. Let's not forget this is bitcointalk after all.

This is the risk of buying accounts. You might as well take it as a lose unless you can prove you're not said member. Sure it sucks but you can thank those who abused the system by buying accounts and using them for the wrong reasons.

If you have missed something proofs are available that account was sold

And what made you think opening a drama thread before giving all the necessary proofs, would help your case and perhaps change Lutpin's opinion?

But jumping in on the recent drama instead of contacting me with the proofs is so much easier.

if you get solid proof you are free to give negative

ausbit uses the address 1JqhHA5YRbSGhqtrMMjSNF3T2vj25cyLY8 that is connected to the addresses 1MzanHD42LRWzQKYm5mtQ5JJGgMsjhJ2PD, 1CGpDLK7uBp6jbzL9J2aa4LMqGDhpiNY5m and 18AEV6fmCbGtQsJLWyisiaTwJFK2rwMzdW throught the transactions 3033f1dd85bb77b519db61207bb51a9fab0b3837b7a5934a759af1c0d9a01207 (https://blockchain.info/tx/3033f1dd85bb77b519db61207bb51a9fab0b3837b7a5934a759af1c0d9a01207) (Linking 1CGpD and 18AEV) and d65cd7b17e146f0e4fd9298bbdf632e4529ef06a3f4894813dda16ca89126cd2 (https://blockchain.info/tx/d65cd7b17e146f0e4fd9298bbdf632e4529ef06a3f4894813dda16ca89126cd2) (Linking 1CGpD, 1JqhH and 1Mzan).

ausbit posting the 1JqhH address:

BigBoy89 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=248564) is posting the 18AEV address here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1269463.msg13276186#msg13276186
greBit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62974) is posting the 1CGpD address here:
HarHarHar9965 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131686) is posting the 1Mzan address here (aswell as on his profile):
And now it's getting interesting. HarHarHar9965 has got negative feedback from Quickseller for this reason:

your proofs are old and account ownership changed after that

but yes you added 1 post to your account easily

You haven't proved that. Any scammer after scamming can say "Oh but I bought this account from the other guy" do you seriously expect anyone to believe you without proof? Just based on the seclog?

And what exactly does that mean? Neither am I farming for a sig like you, nor do I have any potential activity to claim by posting "empty" posts


Edit: Not that I'm implying in any way that the neg will be removed even if you bought the account

I have been finding alts of scammers but IMO if password of account changed and someone saying account was sold then giving negative with old proofs isn't a good idea.

Someone a user sell one of their account and that used for scam it doesn't mean give negative to all accounts without any proof

I will take a look at everything later and will give my opinion if ownership transferred prior to the negative rating being issued later today.

The problem is the anointed group frowns on selling of accounts as well as this issue,so the negative rep would just change to show that.

I have been finding alts of scammers but IMO if password of account changed and someone saying account was sold then giving negative with old proofs isn't a good idea.
Someone a user sell one of their account and that used for scam it doesn't mean give negative to all accounts without any proof

So in your opinion if someone scammed in Nov. 2015 , and then decided to come back on his alt and said "I was sold this account by the owner." after a simple pass change you'd believe that?
Why not? Anyway there is ample proof(that has still not been disproved by any strong indication of an account sale, except a pass change) the account was originally under CEG's control. For all I know it still could be

I never even sent him accounts and he claims that I gave away cracked accounts, what a douche, I rather give aaway accounts then people selling them here to make money..

This guy is an idiot (Lutpin) thinks hes high and mighty leaving negative reps.. I never even sent him accounts and he claims that I gave away cracked accounts, what a douche, I rather give aaway accounts then people selling them here to make money..

don't ruin someone's business if you can't find real scammers on forum

can you proof

I will take a look at everything later and will give my opinion if ownership transferred prior to the negative rating being issued later today.

I believe that I checked for this when I placed my rating on the account, however I will check again.

I think its time blazed goes back to Level 2, They did the same with LBC account seller ,destroying sales and trolling.

Why ask the proof now ? when we don't need it before tagging an innocent participant in investor based games.

A user with common sense can get idea from security log that account ownership is changed

I have removed my negative rating against ausbit, and recommend that others do the same.

Looking at the archives of the security log, it does look like transfer of ownership potentially happened after the date that the address that connected the account to PoeEDgar et al. Although it is impossible to prove that ownership of the account did not take place, the burden of proof is on the person who left the rating to prove the account did not change hands between the time the address was posted that connected the account to the scammer and when the rating was left, and I am currently unable to prove that ownership did not change in this period.

It appears as though I may have made a mistake when I left my negative rating for this person, and I apologize for this.

I am however, still investigating and it is possible that additional negative ratings may follow regarding this situation.

This is getting ridiculous now almost every thread made sees luptin having to remove or change his feedback, I agree with Heutenamos, i think its time blazed gets demoted to DT2

This is getting ridiculous now almost every thread made sees luptin having to remove or change his feedback, I agree with Heutenamos, i think its time blazed gets demoted to DT2

Yes being on DT, he should be careful when giving negative feedbacks and only do this when he is 100% sure with proofs

Someone should create a tl;dr for blazed thread if it's getting that bad.

I really think that Lutpin and Mexxer are doing alright so far. I think it sucks we need people who have to scam bust, but this forum is a cesspool of scammers if we do not. I am on the fence about the gift cards though. Some people do sell cheap cards and I doubt all of them are carded. If someone is offering a warranty with them...obviously carded. I have spoken with a few high-level people and had some message me about these 2 additions. Everyone agrees they are doing an alright job so far. My only advice is slow down and make sure you are right when leaving negative feedback.

I think its time blazed goes back to Level 2

I agree with Heutenamos, i think its time blazed gets demoted to DT2

It seems now that they didn't bring Blazed to remove mexxer-2/me from his downlist, they are trying to go after Blazed on DT1, hoping to kick us off that way.

Last time Blazed commented on the whole topic, this was his conclusion:

It seems now that they didn't bring Blazed to remove mexxer-2/me from his downlist, they are trying to go after Blazed on DT1, hoping to kick us off that way.

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Quickseller



Interesting to see you getting more cautious. :)

Nope, not being more cautious. This is the same policy that I have always followed, however it appears that I either missed this account being on the security log or I forgot to check when I left my negative rating.

Well, though on the other side it would mean that scammers would be pretty safe. Simply scam, change pass twice or thrice and you are fine. You have a sold account.

Well, I'm pretty cautious with red trust too, only pointing out a problem. ;)

You are twisting my words, I did not say that. If an account scams, then it is a scammer account, period. I was referring to locating alts of scammer accounts and there are ways around a scammer changing their password twice to attempt to avoid detection, I am not going to go into my specific tactics however I can find if an account that is linked to a scammer is still controlled by said scammer.