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On March 15th I sent in 2 BTC to the Lisk ICO and my online wallet at login.lisk.io was showing that I had 31731 LISK. I check my wallet today and the balance shows as zero. I try to login to chat.lisk.io to ask about it and it says my password is incorrect (even though I have saved it in a password manager and had used it previously to login). When I try have the password reset I never get the email. I try to create a new chat login account with another email and still don't get any email from Lisk.io; even checked the spam folder.

Right now I feel like Lisk was a scam. My Lisk address is: 16504865948547734056L
and my public key is c16f78e980e90eaab387202b8a64f0b8f3338ab8b92b4493b74db2c08d25df69

I don't even see them in the block explorer tool: explore.lisk.io.

Since I can't seem to get into chat, I have no option but to post for help here. I would appreciate it if a Lisk admin could help me out with this.

LISK is s scam and the sooner people realise the better. I'd never invest 1 cent in a college dropout and a failed ColdFusion developer. Sorry you got stitched up.

Which Login do you mean? This one:
https://ico.lisk.io/users/sign_in

Or this one:
https://login.lisk.io/
?

Check the first one and see whether your coins are showing. If yes, everything is fine.

If you are refering to the second one: you have no Lisk there because it hasn't been distributed yet. It is just up to let you check whether or not your passphrases work.
And also, if you hack in any password, it will still let you in, creating a new account. So, you need to compare the shown adress with the one your passphrase is associated with to guarantee that it is correct.

And also, I think it would have been the right step to ask this question in the ANN thread, instead of throwin accusations around:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.0

I was trying the second link which is now very prominent. I didn't know the first link was still available. I see it now after looking under the ICO area (which I would have never thought to do since the ICO is over). When I login at the first link I do see my exchange. What a relief.

OK, maybe I over reacted in my panic of seeing a zero balance, but it would really help if a link to the first login could be provided from the main lisk.io page.

Glad its sorted for you.

even if it is, even if it is complete vaporware, with zero users the market cap could get to 1B+ with the right marketing team, advertising, pumping, hyping, spamming, and FUDing of all competitors.

gotta ride the ponzi yo  ;)

take a page out of fontas' book:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaRKORxCEAA_yRY.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaLjKBPCIAACEsz.jpg

"Da Game" ..write a book playa ;)

Dropping out of college says nothing... Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg?

Thank you for explanation

Yeh, you over reacted. I made the same mistake logging in the wrong location. I am not sure but i think the second link is the dapp store, not sure how it will work.

I have an advice for you though. Download your private keys if you have not on the ICO page. If anything happens to the website, some hacking, etc you still own the keys  ;)

And hence it is proved that LISK is not a scam.  ::)

Buy my LISK if you want to survive govt corruption and endless printing of fiat.

Whether on not LISK is a scam remains to be seen. It's initial distribution was perhaps one of the best of any ICO on here.

I do not like there is no POW stage. Also I liked that NEM put usernames up to demonstrate who invested. They could have done that.

Overall POW is better if done correctly.




You however are a known scammer as I can prove by pasting your post thread histroy here.

You were one of the main supporters of DARKCOIN/DASHcoin

Defending it's captive instamine and defending it's reduction of the minting by 75%.

You simply said everyone was just butthurt who didn't get to instamine and be holding coins whilst they were magnified to 4x their original % of total minting.

You have absolutely no grounds here to lecture on scams. Your opinion has been shown without doubt to be tainted by financial gain only with no objectivity present at all. You are both a scammer and pumper. This is without doubt.

POW is far superior is a fair release protocol is followed with NO reduction of the previously specified minting by 75% - these make a mockery of the POW method of distribution.

Bring back POW with fair release protocol. End of initial distribution and immediate price manipulation scams.

If it is going full ICO now this board then they should advertise and give a pow period too.

They should at least provide those links on their page because I myself will consider them scam if they don't. This is somehow deceiving users if one don't have the courage to ask like p2p did, I wouldn't know such pages exist. Pow it is!

31,731 LISK for 2 BTC?

 I don't believe 31,731 LISK = 2 BTC either. but OP probably transferred some his LiSK elsewhere and left taht certain amount for whatever his reason. once they pump it right, 31,731 would be a good amount.

He had to have bought more before the 2 BTC and probably never checked his balance. But he is only listing 1 address.

you can not say scam - but its clearly "overfunded"... and for the fact its only a clone of a already existing software - to much money was invested. But this is the gamble which "investors" always risk...

Aren't you the shameless cunt around here. You XC and Blocknet scam supporting cocksucker. Get some self respect before spouting off your own web of self serving lies around here. You are one of the biggest proponents of all scamcoins over time around here.

LISK is nothing but a pump and dump scam like every single ICO out there. By pointing your fingers at me, you are NEVER going to get around that fact.

I'm sorry but swearing will get you nowhere.

Lisk being a pump or dump - the jury is out. Predictions or anything else from a known scammer as yourself can not be taken seriously. Infact if you are calling it a scam then it is probably going to work out well.

You screaming your usual mindless profanity protecting the darkcoin scam even though it was explained to you millions of times - that is a fact.

Here let me look up the thread for you and post it here....just wait a moment.

You fought for weeks to defend a scam even after having the facts shown to you over and over again.

There is no doubt you are a pumper and scammer.

The evidence is on this link.....

defending dash scam over and over. Says the captive instamine and subsequent slashing to magnify instamine is all totally fine.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

you were one of the 3 main dash pumpers and protectors as the scam unfolded.

I can't take you seriously.
I invested in xc and blocknet as I have over 200coins. I don't see any threads with me on them fighting for their honour when they are a proven scam like dash. To my knowledge their only scam till now is vanishing from the board and selling out xc for block. I have actually brought it up a few times that it seems like its in bad taste to abandon the project.

You should change your user name. It will forever be notorious with darkcoin pumping and scamming.

Do you still tell me darkcoin is not a scam and everyone else that was not in on the premine was just butthurt?

Now you are fighting for honesty on this board? haha what happened? I mean I suspected you sold your account to someone else. However the childish swearing and profanity is your trademark. You are funny slapper.

Too lazy to do the math. Don't forget that it might have been 31,731 on the day he bought in, but decreased afterwards

I agree that the first adress should be more visible in the ANN thread. I' gonna head over there and ask for it

EDIT: Damn, second page for this thing…

You still don't get it. You have recently been posting in XC/Blocknet scam threads where you are wishing upon the stars that they come back. Even after being proven to the entire board about their scam, dumping premine, running away with people's money, you are still licking all the Blocknet scammer ass. And now you are out here to prepare the board for dumping LISK. (yah yah save your holding propaganda).

Errr wishing they would come back and finish the job they started would redeem them from dumping the premine and running off?

It's simple

1. they vanished after seemingly dumping xc and moving to block then vanishing.
2. I have said in many posts if they come back having been working on block and not just vanishing with xc dump and btc that will redeem them somewhat . However for full redemption they must follow through with some of their former promises with xc and keep loyal to xc holders.

This is nothing like you trying to claim darkcoin was all above board and fair. Those complaining were butthurt.

 It is not yet proven a scam either so why mention it? where do you get my 0.25btc invested is something to influence my opinion on it. So far the idea seems interesting.

You can not distract from the fact you promoted, pumped and protect the dark coin scam even after knowing the facts that i presented to you in the darkcoin scam thread over and over. You therefore are a scammer for promoting schemes you know are scams.

If lisk suddenly turned into a scam for everyone to see. You would not find me here defending it like you did with dash.

Please stop with your excuses.

Darkcoin is still out there with tons of development and the developer a known and recognized face. XC people were dumping premine while asking in the thread "who is dumping", ran away taking peoples money and yet you are still here promoting them and saying they "might come back". Have you no shame? What the fuck kind of pricks are in this crypto scene, it's unreal.

ALL ICOs are scams. It doesn't matter how fair you presume it to be. You, IOTA, ETH, NXT ..the lot of you. Keep saying your shit doesn't stink, no one cares. It is important to let any newbies watching know what all these ICOs are about. You have always been a scam promoter and will continue to be.

"Pricks", "shit", - yes this slapper for sure.

Invalid arguments - yep 100% slapper

Diversion away from the biggest scam so far in crypto i.e. DASH - yep slapper.

Let's try and bring you back to some kind of analysis of the FACTS slapper.

1. I was one who said they should not have vanished.
2. I was one who said IF they come back they have to finish both projects not just blocknet.
3. atc secure has started posting again. Azure is meant to be adding them if that even means anything. Im not sure.

We will wait and see IF they do come back. I think they will hence I have retained some of my coins.

So if you stick to the facts instead of making up your own story like you always do then people will be able to see you for the scam promoter you are.

Presumption is irrelevant

Once again let me ground you in some FACTS.

ICO with huge advertising and broader distribution is much harder to manipulate than a small under advertised one.

You wish to refute this ?

Sure go ahead I am waiting.

It is just a JOKE that you are even bothering to mention the words fair and scam regarding other projects when the FACT is you spent weeks promoting and protecting a scam in the face of FACTS that it was and still is a scam.

If you want to deal in FACTS then continue this conversation.

There is no point swearing and acting like a child. Your argument or lack of is very telling.

Please reply responding only with facts not inventing your own fiction and lies as is your usual MO.

You are still promoting the largest know scam on this board and protecting it dash whilst daring to even direct the word scam from your lips towards other projects.

You are the most confused person I have ever met.

Again you are misrepresenting the facts. Where have I ever encouraged anyone that ICO are better than POW.

Have I not said time and time again POW with fair release protocol is the only fair way to release?

You are a scammer and that is your limitation. You seemingly have no capacity for debate or argument. You are either devoid of all rational thought and logic else you are a scammer. Either way your opinion should seriously be doubted on any topic of discussion.

Try

1. to tell the truth and report only facts
2. logically analyse these facts/truths before spouting nonsense that make you look more foolish than you are.

You've walking into a debate over whether a largely advertised ico is more open to manipulation than a small under advertised ico and decided to call them both certain scams ......when you are supporting the only POW that can be used as argument for remaining with ICO's because your coin is a scam for a FACT rather that the ICO's that are only highly probable scams.

Do the only honest thing you can do at this moment: contact the mods and ask them to change your username from slapper to scammer. Only then will I know you have started to tread the road to redemption.

Next step - repent and tell everyone that dash is a scam.

An IPO/ICO ?
..scam .

Not sure why you need massive walls of text word-salad to justify an invalid scammy initial distribution method.
Also not sure why you think this justification will work either.
Notice how planet earth gove 0 fucks?
..well, except for the usual suspects, the desperate shitcoin profiteer hanger-on'ers (who refuse to give up)

Who you trying to impress LISK douche's ?
You knew before you launched coin 7,000+ that it was going to get flamed.
So who are we after with it?

This stunt is transparent.. it's a "me too" coin.
one of many thousands and thousands and thousand sand thousands and thousands of them..
And not ONLY that!
But a scammy ass gay IPO/ICO heap of faggotry to boot.

The money grubbing greedy worthless little shitcoin cancer heads should love it..
I bet they are already lined up at your door clutching the BTC's, ready to scream "TAKE ME MONEY NOW"
Shitcoiner's all hot & bothered kneeling down waiting to get shot in the face with a hot steaming load of Altcoin!

Hey shitcoin'ers..

Spoetnik asks, So who made it?
Answer?
"Stop FUD'ing"

Spoetnik asks, So how many coins have they made before?
Answer?
"Stop Trolling"

Spoetnik asks, do you think it's a "legit" coin to invest in?
Answer?
"Spoetnik why do you hate ALL coins?"

Spoetnik asks, how does it improve on Bitcoin or ANY Altcoin for that matter?
Answer?
"Spoetnik is Troll just ignore him"

..i know i have gone through this same bullshit since day one with every two bit useless greedy piece of shit douche that skulks along wandering around like a homeless dog looking for BTC scraps.

And i would say stop feeding the homeless crypto-dogs (Investards) but..
The dev's make a bloody killing off them so..

What have we learned form the advent of Altcoins my little shitcoin aficionados?
That the digital pyramid scheme is a highly effective means of getting money from morons.
The basic concept is deadly simple..
All you have to do is make sure *some* people in the profit-pyramid make some money.
The rest?
Well, that is where all the profit comes from  :D

Altcoins.. how to run a scam.
Liekz omg i am teh haev teh IPO's caus Eth ams gunna be'z $100 a coin 1 daysz~~~!!!!!iiiONE BBQOMGWTF
then silently after spamming for weeks these shriveled up cowardly wormy two faced little weazley pieces of shit
DUMP THEIR COINS.

..then month later they pop up saying ohh i am mr. leeetz investorz caus ei madez me 4.4 btc'z of dem ICO's !!!!

ALTCOIN'S ROFL  :D

"Homy the clown" would be proud of you douche bags! (i want to slap you fuckers with a sock)

http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/6012103/homey_article_story_large.jpg

However to recap on what was said before ...

1. small ico - easy to manipulate - highly probable scam -
2. large ico - harder to manipulate - possible scam - hard to tell for months or years
3. Pow with ninja release and initial very high block rewards - provable scam
3. pow with fair release protocol, slow emission, fast diff adjust - much harder to manipulate and  to gain unfair advantage.

Therefore either ICO's should be banned else if not possible to ban make them as broad and transparent as possible plus adding a POW phase.

POW releases - fair release protocol followed or brand as a scam.


Will it happen?
Will there be a return to POW releases over ICO's?
Only the devs can determine this.

The launch for LISK is soon so we'll all be able to see what happens.
With the exposure and funding that LISK has received, it is less likely to be a scam.
LISK can still not be successful and not be a scam.

Scam or not people still like to trade on hype.

You obviously failed Probability Theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-hand_fallacy

The "hot-hand fallacy" (also known as the "hot hand phenomenon" or "hot hand") is the fallacious belief that a person who has experienced success with a random event has a greater chance of further success in additional attempts.

Goes hand in hand with the phenomena known as "optimism bias" which is rampant around here LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias

I had long suspected it!
Often asked to provide audit results, but no answers came :(
Very sad.

Why you reviving a dead thread? look at the date of those posts.

Not sure what the OP did with his 2 BTC of Lisk on the ICO ...likely sold it

However, I got talked into 'reluctantly' getting 1 BTC worth of LISK on the ICO. BTC was exactly $475 USD

I think I figured. So that came out to 6,248.30 Lisk at the time. (currently staking lisk and gaining 40 Lisk a month,

maybe a bit less now...more or less, was 40 lisk a month, last I looked)

Thus with staking (came to that late), I'm at 6,331.35 lisk from that ICO of 1 BTC and staking....at current coin index chart price of $8.53 usd. (as of this moment)

do the math...best 1 BTC investment I ever did.....so if the OP kept his 2 BTC he doubled the above amount in profits.

Sometimes the blind squirrel finds the nut!