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Title: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on April 18, 2016, 11:36:55 PM
After GMaxwell spread fud against Vcash now blockstream will copy the Vcash adaptive block size! #SHAME

"Blockstream’s Johnny Dilley: We’ll Eventually Have an Adaptive Block Size Solution" https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/blockstream-s-johnny-dilley-we-ll-eventually-have-an-adaptive-block-size-solution-1460997499?utm_content=buffer36b7c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


The truth about GMaxwell's fud against John Connor and Vcash""

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Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: GTO911 on April 18, 2016, 11:48:58 PM
Lol Vcash guys

Lol John Connor

 :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on April 19, 2016, 12:01:14 AM
Lol Vcash guys

Lol John Connor

 :D :D :D :D

Hey monero guy, how is the monero's blockchain bloat? Lol
How much time of life your coin still has?
Take a look at vcash's anon system. Fast, secure, decentralized and without masternodes.
 8) 8) 8) 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfAab-bNoqY


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: r0ach on April 19, 2016, 12:14:20 AM
I would have to say it's kind of disingenuous to say that gmaxwell = bitcoincore.  It should really be called Wladimir & Pieter Wuille Coin, but Americans aren't very fond of strange Euro words (even worse when they put in umlauts or other ridiculous things), which explains why the name hasn't been changed yet.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: john-connor on April 19, 2016, 03:16:40 AM
I'd like to remind people that my algorithm(s) for adaptive block size generation are Bitcoin/Peercoin protocol specific. After a year of reviewing the Cryptonote source code I no longer take any of it's derived projects seriously so it does not pertain. To get back on topic, my simple algorithm adapts to traffic influx while simultaneously preventing "arbitrary block size" DoS attacks, lastly it is highly configurable, adaptive yet simple while scaling to ∞ TPS.

Blockstream has no authority to make this wild claim that Bitcoin will ever have an adaptive block sizing solution because they are no authority figure over Bitcoin. Stephen Pair of BitPay came up with a written solution here: https://medium.com/@spair/a-simple-adaptive-block-size-limit-748f7cbcfb75#.pb5cyk56m using a common sense and simple approach but he only touched on the subject and did not produce any code to prove his theory so while possibly good it doesn't help us today. That said, you have a simple and adaptive solution that can be deployed "today" to any Bitcoin or Peercoin based crypto-currency:

https://gist.github.com/john-connor/c1e131771cfcca02ac9e7a14a4f08caf

Peace and Love 8)


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: r0ach on April 19, 2016, 03:36:11 AM
Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bigfryguy on April 19, 2016, 04:19:24 AM
Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.


John seems to love testing the waters on new developments, while being skilled enough to quickly implement them, and also quick enough to keep an eye on any changes needed to keep the working or to remove them if problems arise. we will see if his work pays off in the future.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BitcoinNational on April 19, 2016, 07:52:35 AM
Well definitely a character.
The product is nice too.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: john-connor on April 19, 2016, 08:43:48 AM
Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.
I've never seen a proposal other than mine that had working code. Fixed block sizes "by design" are attack vectors. You cannot keep growing the block size, this does not work as it is nothing more than a "fixed variable" since it only grows. If transaction's grind to a halt you end up with 100 MB blocks that could be targeted. I've solved the problem in a deterministic way that does not break consensus rules and XVC is moving forward with it so we never have to think about it again.  :o


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: redjedievolution on April 19, 2016, 10:29:15 PM
http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/citizen_cane.gif


Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.
I've never seen a proposal other than mine that had working code. Fixed block sizes "by design" are attack vectors. You cannot keep growing the block size, this does not work as it is nothing more than a "fixed variable" since it only grows. If transaction's grind to a halt you end up with 100 MB blocks that could be targeted. I've solved the problem in a deterministic way that does not break consensus rules and XVC is moving forward with it so we never have to think about it again.  :o


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: jimlite on April 19, 2016, 11:28:53 PM
Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.
I've never seen a proposal other than mine that had working code. Fixed block sizes "by design" are attack vectors. You cannot keep growing the block size, this does not work as it is nothing more than a "fixed variable" since it only grows. If transaction's grind to a halt you end up with 100 MB blocks that could be targeted. I've solved the problem in a deterministic way that does not break consensus rules and XVC is moving forward with it so we never have to think about it again.  :o

Your work is great as always John. But there is a fine line between confident and cocky. I am glad you walk it though.

I believe Ghandi said it best:

First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: JamesOng on April 20, 2016, 06:31:40 AM
Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.
I've never seen a proposal other than mine that had working code. Fixed block sizes "by design" are attack vectors. You cannot keep growing the block size, this does not work as it is nothing more than a "fixed variable" since it only grows. If transaction's grind to a halt you end up with 100 MB blocks that could be targeted. I've solved the problem in a deterministic way that does not break consensus rules and XVC is moving forward with it so we never have to think about it again.  :o

Bravo!


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: generalizethis on April 20, 2016, 06:45:32 AM
Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.
I've never seen a proposal other than mine that had working code. Fixed block sizes "by design" are attack vectors. You cannot keep growing the block size, this does not work as it is nothing more than a "fixed variable" since it only grows. If transaction's grind to a halt you end up with 100 MB blocks that could be targeted. I've solved the problem in a deterministic way that does not break consensus rules and XVC is moving forward with it so we never have to think about it again.  :o

Your work is great as always John. But there is a fine line between confident and cocky. I am glad you walk it though.

I believe Ghandi said it best:

First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.


Dude, I'm not getting involved in the argument, but that Ghandi quotation only works when you apply it to civil disobedience, when you apply it to fights you not only started, but have continually maintained, and are more about market share than fighting an oppressive regime that is attempting to hold you down, it becomes a little absurd. If you had to fight to buy vanilla cash and that was an act that was actively attacked by some authority, then that quotation would be apt.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on April 27, 2016, 06:04:56 AM
 :o

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-04-27%20as%2003.02.45_zpsepf5bijm.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-04-27%20as%2003.02.45_zpsepf5bijm.png.html)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1442193.msg14668144#msg14668144


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: SockPuppetAccount on April 27, 2016, 11:15:09 AM
:o

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-04-27%20as%2003.02.45_zpsepf5bijm.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-04-27%20as%2003.02.45_zpsepf5bijm.png.html)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1442193.msg14668144#msg14668144

Not here to shit on Vcash or john-connor.  I have no strong opinion on the coin and the man is clearly a very talented programmer.  I just had to point out the absurdity of the statement "The ZeroLedger technology is alone worth a billion IMHO".

BTC and Vcash are competing digital currencies, not competing consumer goods.  Currency and consumer goods do not derive their values from the same sources.  A crypto-currency derives its value mainly from adoption, but john-connor speaks of ZeroLedger as if he is the Samsumg CEO speculating on the worth of their latest advancements in bendable touchscreens.

BTC is light-years ahead of everything else when it comes to current adoption, and this fact is further compounded by the effect of adoption begetting adoption.  I can hear fanboys screaming, "technological advancements will drive adoption!".  If you believe this, you live in a fantasy land that exists only in your dreams.  In the real world, the majority of the population has absolutely zero interest in buying, owning, using, accepting, or investing in crypto-currency and never will.  They want to swipe their Visa card and go about their day.  They aren't sitting on the sidelines because BTC isn't fast enough or truly anonymous.  john-connor goes on to state that zero confirmation will make crypto-currencies useful "in real time situations", which is utterly irrelevant because I have yet to see a compelling use case or demand of any significance for crypto-currency "in real time situations".

Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, and the legacy banking system are not frightened of BTC and blockchain technology.  They will be watching the world of crypto-currencies and continually stealing the good parts from it to improve efficiency, lower costs, and improve their service.  In the same way, BTC is not scared of altcoins.  BTC will continually take advances pioneered by altcoins for itself, as this very thread vividly illustrates.

There are other use cases for blockchain technology besides as currency, and it remains to be seen whether currency is the so-called "killer app" of blockchain technology, but trying to compete with BTC when it comes to use as a currency is a fool's errand.  BTC has already won, deal with it.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: noobtrader on April 27, 2016, 05:18:35 PM
The Monero coin already has the block size adaption. In fact, all the cryptnote coins have that feature. It is good for the bitcoin to adopt that.

pic


Monero team are bully, they cant code so they try to stay relevant by fudding other crypto project.   


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: doremi on April 28, 2016, 06:14:33 PM
:o

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-04-27%20as%2003.02.45_zpsepf5bijm.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-04-27%20as%2003.02.45_zpsepf5bijm.png.html)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1442193.msg14668144#msg14668144


 They aren't sitting on the sidelines because BTC isn't fast enough or truly anonymous. 



that's why we need Vcash :)


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on April 28, 2016, 10:52:34 PM
Speaking of Vcash code here's the Adaptive Block Size Algorithm video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxzxbNAvUZY
enjoy  :)



Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: Levole11 on May 04, 2016, 10:04:01 AM
Here's a vid of Zeroledger Chain synchronisation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adOv34vbl2w


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: Dekker3D on May 04, 2016, 10:23:27 AM
This surely is something for VCash. With regards to Zero confirmations creating fast transaction, aren't other altcoins having an instant transfer as well.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: Levole11 on May 04, 2016, 10:46:00 AM
This surely is something for VCash. With regards to Zero confirmations creating fast transaction, aren't other altcoins having an instant transfer as well.

The only one iam aware of is Dash, but that requires a higher fee to use, while xvc's is the standard fee and through xvc's ZT txes, coins are respendable faster..

There might be other differences as well, but i have never really looked into Dash to be honest.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: Lutzow on May 04, 2016, 10:49:51 AM
This surely is something for VCash. With regards to Zero confirmations creating fast transaction, aren't other altcoins having an instant transfer as well.

The only one iam aware of is Dash, but that requires a higher fee to use, while xvc's is the standard fee and through xvc's ZT txes, coins are respendable faster..

There might be other differences as well, but i have never really looked into Dash, there may be other differences as well..

Yeah I remember Dash demoed a vending machine showcasing the fast transaction. I guess VCash can also try to put it in demo :)


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 05, 2016, 12:04:35 AM

The only one iam aware of is Dash, but that requires a higher fee to use, while xvc's is the standard fee and through xvc's ZT txes, coins are respendable faster..

There might be other differences as well, but i have never really looked into Dash, there may be other differences as well..

Yeah I remember Dash demoed a vending machine showcasing the fast transaction. I guess VCash can also try to put it in demo :)
Wow first I've heard about it, that's pretty cool. Kudos to Dash. While Vcash doesn't have awesome vending machines anyone can still demo ZT if they wish or watch it here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Abhq313_8/). Like Dash, all that is needed is some coins and a wallet.

  


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 05, 2016, 04:25:05 AM
Vcash is officially in Microsoft Azure

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-update-8/

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-04%20as%2021.55.45_zps1ilugsxk.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-04%20as%2021.55.45_zps1ilugsxk.png.html)


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 05, 2016, 09:17:08 AM
Vcash is officially in Microsoft Azure

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-blockchain-update-8/

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-04%20as%2021.55.45_zps1ilugsxk.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-04%20as%2021.55.45_zps1ilugsxk.png.html)

Glad it's official now. Thanks for the update.   


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 08, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
ZeroLedger Chain Synchronisation and Transaction Confirmation's Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS51MXxQMZQ


And now Bitcoin's Blockstream Lightning Network requires Vcash SuperNode technology to function:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/exploring-the-centralization-risks-of-bitcoin-s-lightning-network-1462460852


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: somacoin on May 08, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
This is an interesting topic, I've never even heard of Vcash before. thanks for introducing me to this!


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 08, 2016, 08:57:53 PM
This is an interesting topic, I've never even heard of Vcash before. thanks for introducing me to this!

Welcome!
Most of the community decided to stay out of bitcointalk because of trolls and fudders

Site: http://www.v.cash

Official forum: https://v.cash/forum/

IRC: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#vcash


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: somacoin on May 08, 2016, 09:08:45 PM
This is an interesting topic, I've never even heard of Vcash before. thanks for introducing me to this!

Welcome!
Most of the community decided to stay out of bitcointalk because of trolls and fudders

Site: http://www.v.cash

Official forum: https://v.cash/forum/

Thank you, that's a very slick name and neat domain name too 8)
Project looks very interesting


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on May 08, 2016, 09:17:59 PM
VCASH is becoming the real solution to wealth transfer in a decentralized blockchain wtg


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: Laniakea on May 08, 2016, 09:39:43 PM
What can VCASH do that BITCOIN can't do?


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on May 08, 2016, 10:38:05 PM
What can VCASH do that BITCOIN can't do?

Its all the things that bitcoin has a hard time doing due to concensus that vcash has already done that makes vcash special.

Lightning network implemented thin client implemented client side mixer implemented and much more...

Vcash is the coin of the future, bitcoin may implement these things in time, but vcash is the trailbazer and the testing ground for everything bitcoin wants to become.



Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 08, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
What can VCASH do that BITCOIN can't do?

- Zerotime: secure instant transactions (0.23s) without possibility of double spend, without use of masternodes and respendable in 1 second

- Chainblender: decentralized, fungible and very fast anon system without blockchain bloat.

- Adaptive block size: "Don't discuss block size. Let the code handle it."

- Can perform thousands of transactions per second more than all transactions with VISA around the world.

- Poloniex audited the code and Vcash is the only altcoin accept with just 1 confirmation.

And much more soon  ;)




Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 08, 2016, 11:36:48 PM
What can VCASH do that BITCOIN can't do?
The first few things that come to mind.

Decentralized: bitcoin isn't decentralized imho. Vcash network is supported by 300+ nodes (growing). Decentralize Governance is also in development with significant progess w/full deployment looming.
Node Incentives: bitcoin doesn't have node incentives. bitcoins node system is altruistic imo.
Instant Zero confirmation transactions (zerotime): bitcoins lightning network is vaporware. XVCs ZeroTime is not.
Private transactions: Vcash offers a optional Chainblended (blended) transactions (anon).
Blended + Instant transactions: Transactions can be optionally both private and/or instant.
Efficiency orientated: Sets a high bar for all around efficiency including Zerobloat + lower system requirements.      
Scalable for real use: Vcash has ∞ TPS (adaptive blocksize algo) and ZeroLedger + Chain Sync built to scale for millions of users.    

By far the most impressive project I've come across proving bitcoin is nothing more than proof of concept and isn't remotely ready for primetime/mainstream use.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 11, 2016, 08:24:27 PM
I have read the whitepaper of BTC in 2009 and i was in shock. But then i read the whitepaper of Vcash in 2015 and i was totally stunned. Vcash is the way how you implement digital currency into all day life. People don't see it yet, but there will be a day when it becomes natural.


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: STEALTHMODE on May 11, 2016, 09:35:41 PM
I have read the whitepaper of BTC in 2009 and i was in shock. But then i read the whitepaper of Vcash in 2015 and i was totally stunned. Vcash is the way how you implement digital currency into all day life. People don't see it yet, but there will be a day when it becomes natural.

Vcash has features that a lot of crypto needs, it's way more innovative than the price reflects.

@emilio Nice artwork you are using! ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiNL4-aXEAEathW.jpg:large


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: NakeSLam11 on May 11, 2016, 10:23:46 PM
How much nodes exist right now and what amount of vcash is needed to run one?


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: Levole11 on May 11, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
How much nodes exist right now and what amount of vcash is needed to run one?

Currently there are about 340 nodes, 312 of them incentivised.. you needed 10k xvc to run one..


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 12, 2016, 12:22:09 AM
You can get XVC ready VPS from me :) just PM me


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on May 12, 2016, 01:00:49 AM
Cant wait for john and xcore to release all these features in a mobile format on google play.  Once i can show friends vcash with quick dowloads and instant respends i think ill finally be able to show them what crypto is useful for.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: newbtcminer on May 12, 2016, 03:36:35 AM
Before learning about this, I didn't have any interest in this coin. I think I'll look into this a little more now...


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bugsywugsy on May 12, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
Honestly I wasn't really paying attention to VNL/VCASH for the longest time until the public smear campaign and wild accusations came in. Now that I've looked... interesting coin indeed


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: Ayers on May 12, 2016, 05:53:59 AM
is vcash code so revolutionary? if this is true, why the value is still shit? i doubt bitoin copy code from other coin, bitcoin big issue is the capacity right now


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 12, 2016, 06:27:41 AM
Because it is actively getting fudded by the "old boys network". They saw the threat of it and started to shout that he was stealing code, while he made it from the ground up. They never gave any proof, but because the old boys were saying it, people started to believe it. But wat he is done right now is already revolutionary to the whole alt world. And now they are going to implement his code into theirs. How ironic.  


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 12, 2016, 06:58:41 AM
As BadAss said, early on the project was fudded and people ate it up. The project has since moved forward and accomplished so much despite the fud from the competition. Vcash devs kept coding and dropping updates like bosses.  8) 


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: pseudonymdude on May 12, 2016, 06:37:28 PM
Anyone who wants to keep up with the weekly progress of the project timeline, see: http://v.cash/forum/threads/weekly-updates.366/


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 13, 2016, 03:40:13 AM
Anyone who wants to keep up with the weekly progress of the project timeline, see: http://v.cash/forum/threads/weekly-updates.366/

Additionally the 12 Month Timeline can be found here-> https://v.cash/forum/threads/12-month-timeline.349/ (https://v.cash/forum/threads/12-month-timeline.349/)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: NakeSLam11 on May 13, 2016, 08:24:19 AM
Nobody makes something for free, thus I am curious of how Connor aims to maintain development without additional funding.



Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 13, 2016, 09:03:18 AM
Sorry? Never heard of open source software and passion? Or maybe he just want to show the others that it can be worked out without any fuzz like all bitcoin crap around these days? Therefore he said he has money enough to support himself and being dedicated to the project. It is his decision to do it for free. Maybe he's already driving a Ferrari ;) maybe he is Obama?


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: NakeSLam11 on May 13, 2016, 09:14:10 AM
Sorry? Never heard of open source software and passion? Or maybe he just want to show the others that it can be worked out without any fuzz like all bitcoin crap around these days? Therefore he said he has money enough to support himself and being dedicated to the project. It is his decision to do it for free. Maybe he's already driving a Ferrari ;) maybe he is Obama?

Nice try, your view has some probability to be true but only for the chief dev. Only the chief can feel it like, it is my baby. Fact is that the other crue has no passion to make something happen without the money. And Connor is not alone on board.

These people have to be compensated in order to do great.

Funding has to be done through out the community and that is something one should think about.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 13, 2016, 09:54:45 AM
FYI, it is a team already :)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: cryptohunter on May 13, 2016, 10:03:46 AM
FYI, it is a team already :)

It does look interesting and if it is for real then surely it should be way higher in the ranks. A lot of well know coders here called it snake oil and said the code was almost dangerous. However it seems nobody has broken it or proved any of this. Is it a sleeping giant?

I mean maybe he does have incentive? perhaps he has a shed load of vcash so it is well worth his time to develop?

I haven't really read much about it until now but does seem a rather interesting coin. I think it's one to collect a small amount of just to be sure.



Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: sockpuppet1 on May 13, 2016, 10:10:22 AM
I haven't really read much about it until now but does seem a rather interesting coin. I think it's one to collect a small amount of just to be sure.

For gambling only, not for the poor quality of the technology. We've already gone around this bush several times, and we will not waste our time again. You are welcome to believe in BS.

Ah this is a moderated thread, so no truth can be spoken here.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 13, 2016, 10:13:53 AM
John is a former coder of some well known p2p projects in the past. He knows what he is doing and he is doing it good. The reason he has shut down all Vcash topics is that he thinks he does not need bitcointalk for his project. And i must say...he is right. Why should he? He has his plan and has proven that he could break all limitations that all other coins has nowadays. All alts are simply copy paste coins, but the one he is creating is a fresh one. The price is low simply because no special attention comes out from BCT, but it will come eventually. He always said....gonna code first, then after a few years i'll look into promotion.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: sockpuppet1 on May 13, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
John is a former coder of some well known p2p projects in the past.

Yes I had deduced he probably written a Bittorrent client in the past based on the way he approached designs. In any case, his technological innovations are unimpressive. We already explained that numerous times in detail.

Whether he could produce a very innovative design. I guess anything is possible.

Does it matter? Nobody is investing based on technological capability. Just buy what ever you think sounds good. It you feel technologically dazzled, your fellow n00bs will too. So buy it. Peace.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 13, 2016, 10:33:02 AM
Why taking so much time spreading your word about vcash if you don't like it in the first place. You aren't doing that to other coins (looking at your post count), so probably something must trigger you for being that active. Don't forget, fud belongs to the alt world (hell, even in stock world), it isn't doing very much anymore nowadays. Let the man code and let other decide if they like his work or not. There are so many coins to choose from, so why all this energy you put in to this?


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 13, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
John is a former coder of some well known p2p projects in the past.

... In any case, his technological innovations are unimpressive...


Uninpressive?
Have you ever tried to use zero time? The transaction is completed in amazing 0.23 seconds.
In less than a half second you can send a payment to the other side of the world, with a very low fee, and the same coins can be used for other payments instantly. Without risk of double spend or any other form of threat.
Did you already compare chainblender with other similar anon transactions?
Within minutes you can anonymize any amount of coins, unlike others who take up to 24hs to do it with 1000 units. And without security holes in vcash.
Poloniex audited the code and Vcash is the only altcoin that exchange accepted with only 1 confirmation


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: YAdaminer on May 13, 2016, 03:28:20 PM
Sock puppet - false online identity, typically created by a person or group in order to promote their own opinions or views.

Does it matter what he says about Vcash or about anything else.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: ray88 on May 13, 2016, 04:09:53 PM
John is a former coder of some well known p2p projects in the past.

Yes I had deduced he probably written a Bittorrent client in the past based on the way he approached designs. In any case, his technological innovations are unimpressive. We already explained that numerous times in detail.

Whether he could produce a very innovative design. I guess anything is possible.

Does it matter? Nobody is investing based on technological capability. Just buy what ever you think sounds good. It you feel technologically dazzled, your fellow n00bs will too. So buy it. Peace.


Who is ''we'' ?? The suck-puppet clan ?


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: ray88 on May 13, 2016, 04:15:12 PM
Sorry? Never heard of open source software and passion? Or maybe he just want to show the others that it can be worked out without any fuzz like all bitcoin crap around these days? Therefore he said he has money enough to support himself and being dedicated to the project. It is his decision to do it for free. Maybe he's already driving a Ferrari ;) maybe he is Obama?

Nice try, your view has some probability to be true but only for the chief dev. Only the chief can feel it like, it is my baby. Fact is that the other crue has no passion to make something happen without the money. And Connor is not alone on board.

These people have to be compensated in order to do great.

Funding has to be done through out the community and that is something one should think about.

Community was always consulted and decentralized governance is about to be released. See https://v.cash/forum/threads/decentralised-governance.315/#post-5728


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 13, 2016, 08:05:10 PM
Oh how bct can be entertaining sometimes.  :D good laugh in the morning is what I needed.

Beyond that, as some Vcashiers mentioned before Vcash has had a code audit from poloniex. Aside from BTC Polo also included XVC in accepting single confirmations. Decentralized Governance is coming. Anyone is welcomed to test Vcash tech such as ZeroTime, Chainblender (Anon) etc or go to github check out the code yourself. You'll notice John is very active and pushing code constantly.

That's more than I can say for some "so-called" devs who spend all their time on bct trash talking instead of developing.  ::) but that's more of my opinion.

If you are at all curious about the project and have questions have look at the forums. You can find more info about Vcash technology and the growing community. We have really exciting things coming down the pipeline. If want to be part of our community then join us at  v.cash/forum (http://v.cash/forum)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: NakeSLam11 on May 14, 2016, 11:03:03 AM
When will decentralized governance kick in?

And how exactly is it handled.

I mean will all coins in circulation count. For example now we have 14 Mio. coins. Would it mean 14,000 coins would have 1/1000 impact on the decision?


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bigfryguy on May 14, 2016, 04:19:23 PM
IMHO there is no better straight up crypto than VCash.

with all the crazy hype flooding around new platforms, and new tech,  Vcash keeps working on the fundementals making a platform that does what Bitcoin was supposed to do
It is by far the most useable and straight forward project in this crazy space. 


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bigfryguy on May 14, 2016, 04:31:59 PM
John is a former coder of some well known p2p projects in the past.

... In any case, his technological innovations are unimpressive...


Uninpressive?
Have you ever tried to use zero time? The transaction is completed in amazing 0.23 seconds.
In less than a half second you can send a payment to the other side of the world, with a very low fee, and the same coins can be used for other payments instantly. Without risk of double spend or any other form of threat.
Did you already compare chainblender with other similar anon transactions?
Within minutes you can anonymize any amount of coins, unlike others who take up to 24hs to do it with 1000 units. And without security holes in vcash.
Poloniex audited the code and Vcash is the only altcoin that exchange accepted with only 1 confirmation

well put!!!  
Vcash will not be FUDDed into obscurity, it does what it does better than anthing else, and when people start using it for its purpose there will be no more turning back.

fudders are only here after they pump and dump Vcash hoping to buy back in cheaper..


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 15, 2016, 12:29:11 AM
When will decentralized governance kick in?

And how exactly is it handled.

I mean will all coins in circulation count. For example now we have 14 Mio. coins. Would it mean 14,000 coins would have 1/1000 impact on the decision?


This thread was posted earlier. John sums it up here: http://v.cash/forum/threads/decentralised-governance.315/



Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: pseudonymdude on May 15, 2016, 02:19:07 AM
ZeroLedger Alpha Demo Video: https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/731657370502189058


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 15, 2016, 05:20:46 AM
ZeroLedger Alpha Demo Video: https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/731657370502189058

Props to Vcash devs on their implementation of zeroledger.
http://s5.postimg.org/bq2awr5xj/Nooice.jpg


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on May 15, 2016, 05:31:07 AM
Nice work Vcash team


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 15, 2016, 08:24:46 PM
Cant wait for john and xcore to release all these features in a mobile format on google play.  Once i can show friends vcash with quick dowloads and instant respends i think ill finally be able to show them what crypto is useful for.

I hadn't thought of that. It would be much easier to demonstrate the pure utility of Vcash as decentralized money in such a practical manner. Knowingly that Vcash can scale for mass adoption and is the very definition of money. It would break barriers to aid non-techies understanding digital/virtual cash and the concepts behind it. Definitely looking forward to the Vcash mobile apps.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: NUFCrichard on May 16, 2016, 05:18:53 PM
Cant wait for john and xcore to release all these features in a mobile format on google play.  Once i can show friends vcash with quick dowloads and instant respends i think ill finally be able to show them what crypto is useful for.

I hadn't thought of that. It would be much easier to demonstrate the pure utility of Vcash as decentralized money in such a practical manner. Knowingly that Vcash can scale for mass adoption and is the very definition of money. It would break barriers to aid non-techies understanding digital/virtual cash and the concepts behind it. Definitely looking forward to the Vcash mobile apps.

The whole Vcash project seems to be coming along very nicely, but is being completely ignored by the market.
Ok I admit that I bought at the peak, but I am holding as it seems that the coding is top notch.

Poloniex only required one confirmation for Vcash deposits, that is a pretty good sign that it is very safe.  Now Bitcoin is copying aspects of Vcash.  Well I see that Vcash has a good future ahead of it as a payment system.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: DiCE1904 on May 16, 2016, 07:33:33 PM
Best coin out right now IMO. Loaded up a few incentive nodes and just letting them cruise along.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 17, 2016, 08:29:20 AM
The whole Vcash project seems to be coming along very nicely, but is being completely ignored by the market.
Ok I admit that I bought at the peak, but I am holding as it seems that the coding is top notch.

Poloniex only required one confirmation for Vcash deposits, that is a pretty good sign that it is very safe.  Now Bitcoin is copying aspects of Vcash.  Well I see that Vcash has a good future ahead of it as a payment system.

Completely agree. These are precisely my thoughts as well. And considering Vcashs tech I don't blame ya I bought my share of peaks haha. w/ Vcash engineered for long-term stability I have zerodoubt  ;) Vcash in the future will be a success.    

Best coin out right now IMO. Loaded up a few incentive nodes and just letting them cruise along.

Speaking of node incentives.. Vcash node incentives collateral cost is priced ~$770-$800 USD atm. Not bad when compared to DASH masternode costing ~$7000 respectively.

Pro-tip: It's probably not a bad idea to pick up some collateral for Vcash node incentives. Considering XVC current monetary supply atm and by year 2018 we will be at 1% inflation (Hint: take a look at Vcash POW reward v3 here: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/rewardv3.pdf (http://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/rewardv3.pdf))          


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: NakeSLam11 on May 17, 2016, 10:02:23 AM
For what purpose can I use XVC? 

Well buying and running an incentive node makes not much sense since price is low.

Can I buy a PS4 with VCASH? If not it has no use as a currency.

Who buys me a PS4 Uncharted 4 Pack and takes XVC?


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 17, 2016, 12:35:08 PM
For what purpose can I use XVC? 

Well buying and running an incentive node makes not much sense since price is low.

Can I buy a PS4 with VCASH? If not it has no use as a currency.

Who buys me a PS4 Uncharted 4 Pack and takes XVC?

The pizza maker in 2009 also didn't accept BTC at first. And https://www.badass.sx and https://www.safe-mail.eu is accepting XVC as payment ;)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: DiCE1904 on May 17, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
For what purpose can I use XVC? 

Well buying and running an incentive node makes not much sense since price is low.

Can I buy a PS4 with VCASH? If not it has no use as a currency.

Who buys me a PS4 Uncharted 4 Pack and takes XVC?


I will. Let me know when you have $400 worth of XVC and we can do the deal.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 17, 2016, 10:34:25 PM
As a reminder anyone interested in VanillaCash the technology is demonstrated in a series of YouTube videos below. For anyone who has missed development highlights this is for you.


Here are some videos posted on Johns main YouTube channel
:


Vcash ZeroLedger Alpha Demo 1 (2 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWoH5y8WRew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWoH5y8WRew)

Vcash ZeroLedger ChainSync and Transaction Confirmation's (2 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS51MXxQMZQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS51MXxQMZQ)

Vcash ZeroLedger ChainSync (1.5 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adOv34vbl2w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adOv34vbl2w)

Vcash ZeroLedger (SPV + Lite Client) Chain Synchronisation (4 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cSi6TCpvRQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cSi6TCpvRQ)

Vcash 0.4.8 Alpha Thin Client Streaming Ledger (2 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf3sZ2J7aMk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf3sZ2J7aMk)

Vcash Adaptive Block Size Algorithm (19 secs): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxzxbNAvUZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxzxbNAvUZY)



Here is another set of videos demonstrating ZeroTime (instant transactions) and Chainblender (Anonymous blended transactions)
(Jan 2016):


Vanillacoin chainblender (long version) (22 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfAab-bNoqY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfAab-bNoqY)

Vanillacoin chainblender technology (Part 1) (11 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNZokOdR5c4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNZokOdR5c4)

Vanillacoin chainblender technology (Part 2) (11 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbzOupq1AHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbzOupq1AHg)

Vanillacoin Zerotime (2.5 mins): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Abhq313_8 (August 2015)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 17, 2016, 11:31:02 PM
For anyone interested in following the project on other mediums such as social networks and forums etc.

Twitter: The official Vcash twitter is @vdotcash which can be found here https://twitter.com/vdotcash (https://twitter.com/vdotcash)

Facebook: Official Facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/vdotcash/ (https://www.facebook.com/vdotcash/)

Alternatively the official Reddit community is here -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Vcash/

Official Forums: https://www.v.cash/forum (https://www.v.cash/forum)

GitHub: https://www.github.com/john-connor/vcash (https://www.github.com/john-connor/vcash)

IRC Channel: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#vcash


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 18, 2016, 02:23:15 AM
For what purpose can I use XVC?  

Well buying and running an incentive node makes not much sense since price is low.

Can I buy a PS4 with VCASH? If not it has no use as a currency.

Who buys me a PS4 Uncharted 4 Pack and takes XVC?

There is a gateway being developed so that any physical store, online store or professional can accept Vcash easily, with the value adjusted in real time according to poloniex.
I live in a country with 220 million inhabitants and we are building a very strong Vcash's community here.
It includes many business owners and professionals willing to adopt XVC as payment.
Soon will be possible to buy a ps4 or anything else in my country paying with Vcash  ;D


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: pseudonymdude on May 18, 2016, 05:17:25 AM
For what purpose can I use XVC?  

Well buying and running an incentive node makes not much sense since price is low.

Can I buy a PS4 with VCASH? If not it has no use as a currency.

Who buys me a PS4 Uncharted 4 Pack and takes XVC?

There is a gateway being developed so that any physical store, online store or professional can accept Vcash easily, with the value adjusted in real time according to poloniex.
I live in a country with 220 million inhabitants and we are building a very strong Vcash's community here.
It includes many business owners and professionals willing to adopt XVC as payment.
Soon will be possible to buy a ps4 or anything else in my country paying with Vcash  ;D

Wow!  Was not aware of this!  Fantastic!


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 18, 2016, 06:46:34 PM
There is a gateway being developed so that any physical store, online store or professional can accept Vcash easily, with the value adjusted in real time according to poloniex.
I live in a country with 220 million inhabitants and we are building a very strong Vcash's community here.
It includes many business owners and professionals willing to adopt XVC as payment.
Soon will be possible to buy a ps4 or anything else in my country paying with Vcash  ;D

That's great news EmilioMann. You guys are pioneering the Vcash eco-system on multiple levels, nice job. Kudos to EmilioMann and to the rest of the community.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 18, 2016, 07:06:51 PM
There is a gateway being developed so that any physical store, online store or professional can accept Vcash easily, with the value adjusted in real time according to poloniex.
I live in a country with 220 million inhabitants and we are building a very strong Vcash's community here.
It includes many business owners and professionals willing to adopt XVC as payment.
Soon will be possible to buy a ps4 or anything else in my country paying with Vcash  ;D

That's great news EmilioMann. You guys are pioneering the Vcash eco-system on multiple levels, nice job. Kudos to EmilioMann and to the rest of the community.


thanks dude!

Take a look at vcash's brazilian facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/193155824381736/


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: TrueAnon on May 18, 2016, 07:19:42 PM
Will watch vCash closer for sure.
THough I still feel much is hidden from us...
:(


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 18, 2016, 08:53:09 PM
Will watch vCash closer for sure.
THough I still feel much is hidden from us...
:(

Huh as a follower of the project I have found the project fairly transparent. Vcash is a very advanced cryptocurrency. Vcash has evolved quickly and continues to do so. Take a look at the previous timeline http://v.cash/forum/threads/6-month-timeline.194/ (http://v.cash/forum/threads/6-month-timeline.194/) as example of the level of development. John and Vcash team do a bit of commenting on main forums about the project progress on a weekly basis. I find twitter a very good source for updates on the project. I certainly don't feel like anything is hidden.  ???

The Vcash forums is where project details are discussed along with announcements and other informative topics. Edit: I wanted to also point the way to the Vcash Forums development discussion as a resource for those that want to follow the projects progress more closely-> http://v.cash/forum/forums/general-discussion.5/


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 20, 2016, 06:16:11 AM
Yes and ZeroLedger will make most crypto-currencies seem like a bloated mess. It compiles and works on all modern OS and game consoles and even on the iWatch OS 2 it uses about 38 MB of RAM. :o
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1146310.msg14903236#msg14903236

More juicy deets on ZeroLedger and oh my.  


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 20, 2016, 09:03:34 AM
http://s5.postimg.org/e8oggt8lj/John_Ctweet.jpg
https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/733502401408204801

Recent tweet on ZeroLedger progress.





Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 24, 2016, 01:11:05 AM
Just WOW

https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/734893415872253953

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-23%20as%2022.06.12_zpsf8wpvngh.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-23%20as%2022.06.12_zpsf8wpvngh.png.html)

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ggJ_aeP2fpA


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 24, 2016, 07:47:31 AM
Just WOW

https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/734893415872253953

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-23%20as%2022.06.12_zpsf8wpvngh.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-05-23%20as%2022.06.12_zpsf8wpvngh.png.html)

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ggJ_aeP2fpA


Hats off to the Vcash team & their mind-blowing work! I think I am not alone in saying we are definitely looking forward to the release and eager to try it out.    

https://i.imgur.com/tOJKw.gif  


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bigfryguy on May 24, 2016, 01:36:25 PM
Vcash is definately worth trying out.

Simple, yet mindblowing useful!!!

WTG VCash team!


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: CryR on May 25, 2016, 07:59:54 PM
ZeroTime, ZeroLedger What more?  8) #Vcash for sure.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on May 25, 2016, 10:24:09 PM
Don't forget chainblender ;)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on May 27, 2016, 04:55:03 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1474951.0


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 27, 2016, 08:16:48 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1474951.0

Another Vcash hate thread from monero crew huh. Who would have guessed  ::)

I like to remind everyone that Vcash tech is available to test at any time. Just DL the wallet and anyone can send anonymous (blended) transactions and/or instant ZeroTime txs. No command lines or missing GUIs here  ;)

And ZeroLedger is coming.  8)



Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on May 27, 2016, 10:21:31 PM
And ZeroLedger is coming.  8)

...to an iPad near you  ;)

http://s5.postimg.org/kmspbewg7/Zeroledger_Ipad_App.png

Link to tweet: https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/736235148560060416


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on May 30, 2016, 11:58:56 PM
Cant wOt for the android version,  my note 5 is wet with anticipation


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on June 02, 2016, 03:25:04 AM
For any Vcashiers who are interested in John's papers on github: https://github.com/john-connor/papers (https://github.com/john-connor/papers)

Additionally the Vcash whitepaper is here: http://v.cash/papers/vanillacoin.pdf (http://v.cash/papers/vanillacoin.pdf)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: CryR on June 02, 2016, 08:31:02 PM
For any Vcashiers who are interested in John's papers on github: https://github.com/john-connor/papers (https://github.com/john-connor/papers)

Additionally the Vcash whitepaper is here: http://v.cash/papers/vanillacoin.pdf (http://v.cash/papers/vanillacoin.pdf)
Great!!


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bigfryguy on June 04, 2016, 03:54:01 AM
IMHO Vcash is the only coin that I would use instead of BTC (as long as there was liquidity)  hopefully this comes with time because Vcash is so much easier to use.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on June 05, 2016, 12:27:10 AM
http://s5.postimg.org/nug8f5ghz/johns_Tweet_Win_Zero_Ledger.png

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKWrj7Z2LlU

Holy Guacamole that was fast!! The Windows demo synced the entire blockchain in less than 2 minutes! That's some serious speed folks. This is cryptocurrency as it should be IMHO, fast, efficient, practical and scalable. This is what ZeroLedger brings to the table and sets Vcash apart from other cryptocurrencies in this space including bitcoin.          


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: nickhiggins123 on June 05, 2016, 01:11:51 AM
Wasn't the Bitpay solution the one where there's no negative incentive for continuously inflating the block size over time?  I haven't really spent any time examining any of the adaptive block size proposals, but it's obviously not as simple as just coding up something that sounds logical if you're unable to identify all the various game theory and attack vectors involved.
I've never seen a proposal other than mine that had working code. Fixed block sizes "by design" are attack vectors. You cannot keep growing the block size, this does not work as it is nothing more than a "fixed variable" since it only grows. If transaction's grind to a halt you end up with 100 MB blocks that could be targeted. I've solved the problem in a deterministic way that does not break consensus rules and XVC is moving forward with it so we never have to think about it again.  :o

Your work is great as always John. But there is a fine line between confident and cocky. I am glad you walk it though.

I believe Ghandi said it best:

First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.


Dude, I'm not getting involved in the argument, but that Ghandi quotation only works when you apply it to civil disobedience, when you apply it to fights you not only started, but have continually maintained, and are more about market share than fighting an oppressive regime that is attempting to hold you down, it becomes a little absurd. If you had to fight to buy vanilla cash and that was an act that was actively attacked by some authority, then that quotation would be apt.

Not that I care about Vcash, but who are you to say when a Gandhi quote is applicable. Get real.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on June 08, 2016, 09:35:28 PM
Zeroledger this week! https://v.cash/forum/threads/network-wide-mandatory-upgrade-friday-june-10-2016-7-00-pm-est.475/#post-6422

"Yes and ZeroLedger will make most crypto-currencies seem like a bloated mess. It compiles and works on all modern OS and game consoles and even on the iWatch OS 2 it uses about 38 MB of RAM."  :o

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-08%20as%2018.28.12_zpspehpabw9.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-08%20as%2018.28.12_zpspehpabw9.png.html)

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-08%20as%2018.24.48_zpsvnk8adxk.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-08%20as%2018.24.48_zpsvnk8adxk.png.html)


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bigfryguy on June 09, 2016, 01:35:57 AM
looking forward to it John thanks for all your hard work


Title: Re: First they spreading fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: V.cash on June 09, 2016, 03:38:00 AM
I have read the whitepaper of BTC in 2009 and i was in shock. But then i read the whitepaper of Vcash in 2015 and i was totally stunned. Vcash is the way how you implement digital currency into all day life. People don't see it yet, but there will be a day when it becomes natural.

Vcash has features that a lot of crypto needs, it's way more innovative than the price reflects.

@emilio Nice artwork you are using! ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiNL4-aXEAEathW.jpg:large

Hey, STEALTHMODE, i used your artwork again to create an unofficial thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504342.msg15134181#msg15134181

Prettycool artwork!


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: I am the guy on June 11, 2016, 10:48:57 AM
Wanted to make a side note as it relates to the OP. John Conner's blockchain adaptive blocksize solution was implemented in the latest update. Thanks to ZeroLedger and the Adaptive Blocksize Algo XVC now has scalability baked right in.

https://v.cash/news.php#0011
Version 0.4.7 Released
by John Connor | June 10, 2016 | Development Updates

Version 0.4.7 has been released. The complete changelog is below. You can download version 0.4.7 here.

  • Autonomous block size (∞ TPS).
  • More descriptive user agent fields.
  • Reduced ZeroTime vote traffic.
  • Added ability to import/export the blockchain from/to a single file.
  • Transactions are now limited to 100 Kilobytes.
  • Improved support for ZeroLedger based clients.
  • Bug Fixes

As I and many others have said before, Vcash Dev John Conner delivers on his promises and he's done it again. Proving Vcash is not vaporware and certainly isn't just hype. It's the whole enchilada. 8)

Want to learn more? Just click my signature.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: bigfryguy on June 15, 2016, 03:32:09 AM
best Dev in the crypto realm, cant wait for VCash to come out from behind the curtains to show everyone what a truly fantastic platform John_Connor has created.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: BadAss.Sx on June 16, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
Yes, he is surely a good dev, no doubt about that, but his arrogance to others is holding the price down. Would be nice if he cooperate a bit more with other devs to earn some respect instead of bullying their work.

Don't get me wrong, he is delivering a very nice job and i love his work, but damn...lower down your voice and hopefully others would respect his work also. As a big bag holder in XVC i'm getting very annoyed by his attitude.


Title: Re: First they spread fud, but now bitcoin core will copy Vcash code
Post by: EmilioMann on June 26, 2016, 08:39:18 PM
It seems that the bitcoin core will adopt without giving credit another feature developed by John Connor to Vcash

https://twitter.com/vdotcash/status/746811738364928000
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-26%20as%2017.23.47_zpszayzlsct.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-26%20as%2017.23.47_zpszayzlsct.png.html)


https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/746828587454476288
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q744/EmilioMann/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-26%20as%2017.31.01_zpskyagbpal.png (http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/EmilioMann/media/Captura%20de%20Tela%202016-06-26%20as%2017.31.01_zpskyagbpal.png.html)

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles//bip-the-end-to-end-encryption-bitcoin-never-had-but-soon-will-1465401187