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We are proud to announce our latest offering from BTCC Mint, a new physical bitcoin made of Titanium.  It’s a large 43 mm coin, containing 1 BTC, which is newly mined from our mining pool.

Here is a selection of photos. Hope you like them. More to come later.

https://bt.cc/mnt13

https://bt.cc/mnt14

https://bt.cc/mnt15

https://bt.cc/mnt16

Pre-order now at http://mint.btcc.com/

Items will ship out on Monday, May 30.

Nice looking coins but can't find any price for them.

Will these be available without funding?

Also, how limited is the V series?

Wish I could buy but I can't because I am in the U.S.   :'(

What's the V in "V Series" mean?   ???

Pricing is 1.10BTC (or 1.15BTC with box).

Also, how many are being minted/produced?

Added the images for you!

https://store.btcc.com/

Beautiful coin. I love the choice of metal and design work. Will be getting one or two..

Hi everyone,

Here's a special trailer that BTCC put together to launch our new titanium physical bitcoins. Hope you enjoy it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkmYwsd-VzU

Excellent trailer and all the best for sales!  :)

Sorry if re-post, the system glitched and ...

Anyway:

1)  Discount Code?  Pretty please...

2)  No shipping to the USA, really...

OP, is all produced coin loaded with newly generated coins?

Yes ;D

Nice coin. But to order I do not have a credit card.

How many coins will be minted ?

Can you answer these questions?

Really very nice design.
Looks very good to me.

Hey Poloherb,

You don't need a credit card. They (only) accept bitcoin payment :)

Man, that trailer is on point. Well done.

Yeah, I'd like to hear some numbers about the mintage as well.

I think you're missing a trick not selling a limited amount of unfunded coins for US folks at least. I can imagine coins like these are going to be very appealing for collectors.

I read yesterday and today is another text in policy.
You're right, they accepts only BTC. Today I found nothing about credit cards like yesterday.

In the film it looks like a mass production, this is not the handiwork and this price.

Hello, BTCC_Official. Can you please address the two questions above, before I make a decision on buying one?

Thanks!  :)

Amazing looking coin out there. Fabulous design :D

But are you planning to sell some of them unfunded?
That is because funded coins are not considered secure if someone plans to use it as a cold storage. In short, trust issues are always there in case of funded coins.

I am very much interested if you are planning to sell them unfunded in future. :)

Agreed, I'm interested in the coin but would rather have the option to load it if I would like.

I'd pay an extra 0.05BTC for the unloaded version if required.   ;)

Just buy the loaded version and peel it?

i could be interested in these coins, if we could get the possibility to get them "unfunded/unloaded"..
i really think this choice could interest many other users too..   8)

Unfortunately I'd rather have an intact hologram which peeling will not provide. 

There is definitely a difference between a redeemed coin and an unloaded/non-redeemed coin.  ;)

Peeling the sticker and redeeming a beautiful coin like this will have no value according to me.
Its a lot better if we are getting the liberty to chose our own private addresses (vanity address for example) and keeping it safe with the sticker intact, possibly forever. ;)

Generating a key by someone else does not make a coin trustless. Plus there is another risk of getting the coin stolen in customs (at least in India this happens, sadly)
Hope you understood my point.

P.S. I will 1000% buy it if its available in un-redeemed condition.

BTCC needs to hire someone for PR reasons that can answer questions...   ::)

I sent him a PM but no answer yet :(

 same for me ... i have sent them 2 messages , and no response at the moment ... just a curious sense of comunication model.. just my humble opinion..  ::)

What does the "V" stand for?  It's a secret.  You'll just have to guess!  ;-)

Regarding total mintage, we haven't confirmed exactly how many we will make yet.

However, our plan is to discontinue this coin model after the block halving that's coming up in July.
This means that we will only be making this coin, the 2016 One Bitcoin, Titanium V Series, up until the block halving.
After that, we will make a new coin, which will be funded by block rewards of 12.5 BTC each.

This means that not only is this series limited, it can't possibly be made anymore after July of 2016.
After block halving, the newer coins will have 3 stars instead of 2 stars....

After the block halving, we will disclose how many were minted in total for this coin model.

Hope this makes sense!

thanks,
Bobby

Thanks for the compliment on the design!  We like it very much as well.  It's truly excellent.  :-)

Sorry to inform you: for this V Series, we will only plan to sell them funded.

These coins will be funded straight from the block reward, so the bitcoins in there are brand new and never before spent.  These bitcoins represent the actual new bitcoins being mined in 2016, being added to the growing supply of bitcoins in circulation.

That's the whole point of this V Series of bitcoins from BTCC Mint.  For these reasons, this series will never be sold unfunded.  Sorry!

thanks,
Bobby

Bobby, thanks a lot for all the replies and info, very much appreciated, awesome stuff! :)

Hi Everyone,

On behalf of BTCC, I want to make an apology to everyone here and all those who have had a bad experience with our customer support and replies.  We were really swamped with the orders and the huge demand.  (It exceeded our own internal estimates.)

Right now, our main customer support team has not yet been fully trained to deal with the onslaught of questions about BTCC Mint.  We hope to remedy that soon.  

Our first priority is to get the coins shipped out to all of you who pre-ordered them!  
We're aiming to send them out tomorrow, Tuesday, May 31.

In the mean time, if you haven't ordered yet, please do so soon during this limited introductory price.  (or they might all sell out!)

thanks,
Bobby

Some of you might like this... (if you are indeed the serious collectors!)

We had a technical error over the weekend, where we mined 2 blocks in very quick succession, and that resulted in the same coins being funded TWICE!  Normally, this doesn't happen, even if we do mine 2 successive blocks in succession.  

We're calling these "twins".  :-)

They were mined in these two successive blocks:
413,851 - https://blockchain.info/tx/3fa343fdb02e28ea8e7205499a692cfe810d9751aa85ecd16e02a40c8340214e
413,852 - https://blockchain.info/tx/5b9a7ee3e9c44f9385a82c910a8ece7db25a9b2ae0c41ee36dc042dabf94863e

There are exactly 25 coins in this batch, and this situation is quite RARE!

Even if we tried, we can't guarantee producing "twins" as it requires us mining two successive blocks, one right after the other.

In fact, we've mined other successive blocks in many other cases, and yet it doesn't result in twins.  (For example, no twins in these successive blocks: 413,942 & 413,943, as well as blocks 414,025 & 414,026)

Like all good things, there's a slight premium for this batch of 25 coins:
1 BTC premium, on top of the 2 BTC bitcoin value.  Total price is 3 BTC.
The coin still says "One Bitcoin", and it'll come in a nice black leather box.

Go here and get it now, before the general public finds out:
https://store.btcc.com/products/2016-v-series-one-bitcoin-rare-double-funding-error

Enjoy this little treat!  The early bird gets the worm!  :-)

thanks,
Bobby

Placed an order. Let's hope it gets sent out today :D

Call me naive, why would coins be double funded by some rare occurance of blocks found one after the other.

Excellent question.  I didn't do a good job explaining it earlier:

When we mine new bitcoins into the physical coin addresses, it's not quite as simple as funding it like others do.  The traditional way would only involve making a bitcoin payment, and there's no risk of accidental double funding.

In our case, with the mining pool funding new coins, we actually spread out the work to our 175+ PH/s of miners, for them to mine the next block into the set of 25 coins.  (You can see this in the blockchain record.) In the normal case, whenever we successfully mine a block (and thus fund a coin), we reissue new instructions to all of our miners, for them to update the destination address, to now fund a different set of 25 coins.

However, when we find successive blocks very fast, in rare cases, we don't update the miners quickly enough, and they go ahead and find a new block, but deliver the coins to the same set of addresses, which had just been found, seconds or minutes earlier.  In that case, we now have twins.  The same 25 addresses now have been funded twice, by accident.

Rather than destroying the coins (by peeling sticker and redeeming the BTC value), we're making these special editions available for you to collect.

Like I said earlier, it takes a special mix of factors for this to happen.  We routinely mine consecutive blocks, sometimes even 3 in a row.  However, it's very rare that the instructions don't get propagated fast enough, where an address gets funded twice.

And with bitcoin, we can't recall the payment!  :-)

thanks,
Bobby

Looking forward to it! ;D

ETA: Thursday June 2nd :D.

My order #1062 is on the way

This is a really cool idea,will for sure look into buying a few in the fall after you get some good reviews back.
Like the idea of the bitcoin not being circulated either,it appeals to me having something physical like this and they look pretty awesome.
Could use them at live poker games,well maybe not a good idea to have that much sitting on the table.
Might be a idea to have 1/4 and 1/2 coins.

Indeed! If you play poker with them, you'll be glad to find out that these were designed to be the same size as the "large-style" 43mm casino/poker chips!

:-)

thanks,
Bobby

I need to step up my game, really beautiful piece. I'm considering purchasing one. Great job!

If that is true I'm sending it back. The total value isn't even 600 euros :/

Just ordered 2 from the "Twin funded" rare serie.
I'll give an update about the customs.

That is really a shame, minerjones asked about the import fees above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1485036.msg15032615#msg15032615).   ::)

Shame indeed.  Big surprise, BTCC not answering questions again.   :-\ ::)

Good luck to those trying to get an answer about returns in time.

I've sent him a PM. Hopefully he'll reply soon  :-\

Looking at this mess, I'm out.
I cannot afford to pay such taxes on customs for a token like that.

And here in India they will charge double to what sardokan stated above.

Sorry to say but I cannot buy a loaded coin like that. If someone wants to sell an unloaded one after they have peeled the sticker can offer me a price through pm. I am looking forward to minerjones for this though ;)

Oh, that's very bad, it will be a very expensive coin. I was waiting to know if anyone have some problems with customs before ordering one Btcc coin.

Your estimated VAT's would be 4.99 BTC ($2,679.64).

We can send the coins back since their ToS allows refunds:


The shitty part is that the shipping fees don't get refunded :(.

'Daisy' from the support chat wasn't really helpful. I didn't get any answers from 'her' and she redirected me to support@btcc.com. I sent them an email I guess now we just wait  :-\

Coinographic burn and now this?

Yuk. Crossing fingers..

received mine in Canada today, just under $50 due at the door from fedex. 1coin no box

$50 CAD I assume? I wonder what is causing this huge difference  :-\. $38 USD or $205 USD....

Hi all,

Yes, for the very first few shipments, we made the mistake of declaring the full value (coin token + BTC) for the customs value, which resulted in your large VAT bill.

We quickly remedied that based on the advice on this forum, but unfortunately, a few packages already went out.

We know who those orders went to. So an apology, we will give you credit on your next order at BTCC Mint, for the extra VAT amount that you incurred.  Please send email with your order details to: mint@btcc.com

Going forward, the value declaration on all international orders will NOT include the BTC value.

thanks,
Bobby

By the way, we are now nearly sold out.

Inventory is running very low now...

https://store.btcc.com/

Is it possible to just refund the amount that was over-paid? Now you are forcing people to buy another coin instead of correcting the mistake that was made.

I agree with TheNewAnon

BTCC...if you guys admit to making a mistake, I recommend you refund the extra fees, not simply provide credit for a future order that may not take place.

Yes, it is unreasonable!  minerjones, what a way to get your response from BTCC  ???



Right, until June 6th!  But I paid in May, because, I was being so kind.  I am that kind of guy- too trusting.

To the certified newbie (Bobby Lee):  You overstepped your bounds by railroading us to pay early and then by improperly declaring the goods.  :-\

^this, with the set shipping price and the large rise in price of bitcoin during the preorder there should be funds available to refund rather than store credit.

You almost get 1 btc for 1 btc, what's wrong there ? I do enjoy the offer of BTCC, it's a pain for everyone and even a bigger one for them.

Huh?  First not selling to U.S. is a mistake as I would say half of the buyers that want these coins are there.  Second, charging the customer a VAT of 0.25BTC per coin is insane.  Third, not answering questions or having knowledgeable support and in a timely manner is not helpful.  Fourth, waiting until the coins are sold out before telling us. Four pretty big mistakes, or what I would call failures.  These are their own mistakes mind you.   ::)

Just to keep track of the thread, I had to say something (instead of clicking WATCH).

Not selling to the USA probably isn't simply a personal decision, but more likely a legal issue.

BTCC isn't charging a VAT.  It's the country receiving the package that is charging it. (Import fee).

I feel he (Bobby) has been good in answering.  Actually, beyond what I would have expected.  Especially as most companies simply employ someone to go through PR routines and canned responses.

On the fourth point.  Didn't he say only some orders went out showing full value, and the rest caught before shipping and offered at least one solution?

Anyway, on another note:
I know of a large order placed on 5/31, shipped on 6/1, and received in Canada on 6/2.
VAT for this order was under $100 USD

Of course I know the reason why they aren't selling to the U.S.  But, that doesn't change the fact.  

"Charging a VAT" as I put it... I meant putting it on the customer to pay more in taxes since they are putting the value of the coin + the BTC on the coin as well, which is $500+.  I disagree about the questions being answered in a timely fashion.  Have you read this entire thread?   :-\  There were SEVERAL attempts of asking this very question and he did not answer it.  At that point he said almost all sold out.  So, of course the group buy was pressured into ordering early without even knowing the answer to our questions!  It's ok...All of the questions will be answered when they are sold out.   ::)  So, at what order # did that change, BTCC?  I bet over 100+ orders and more than 1/2 of their available coins went out before they caught it.  Please prove me wrong BTCC.  And, probably only <150 orders will be placed.  If they are already almost sold out, I am certain they had less than 200-300 available.  Just an interesting observation, btw.

I received an email from the support team:


In their email they aren't even mentioning a refund on the high VATs but they are advising to return/refuse to accept the coin and reorder it afterwards (while they are sold out). If you return the coin you won't get refunded for the shipping coins so you will lose your 0.13 BTC (shipping costs in my case).

I just received my package (order #1060) and my invoice says 600 USD :(. Fedex sends their bills afterwards but it's likely that I'll have to pay a high amount of taxes. I really hope BTCC will solve this issue in a professional manner because I doubt I'll buy more products from them if they leave me hanging like this.

I emailed FedEx to explain the situation. They replied that the customs didn't charge any fees on my package so I guess I got really lucky :o.

I hope so too but the odds of this happening are pretty slim.

I got a letter with the coin saying I am 1 of the first 100 people who bought a coin (and I got a free sticker :D). The coin itself came in a leather case and also includes a booklet with some information about the coin. The coin itself looks pretty nice I must say!

The coin itself looks flawless so I guess it's definitely worth grading. I thought I saw someone mention earlier that ANACS doesn't grade Titanium coins though. Pics as you requested ;D:

https://i.imgur.com/J8TBQn0.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/yQWCt0m.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/Pf0lMmi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0Tw2zpY.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/KcJ4tbt.jpg?1

It's not the titanium, it's the size. ANACS only grades up to 41mm coins, and this one is 43mm... Not sure about the other grading companies though. Very nice, thanks for the pics! :)

Casascius 25BTC coins are 44mm and they slab those. Honestly, other companies do grade crypto coins, but their grades are irrelevant at this point.

Edit: I am not sure they are 44mm...I will have to measure. I am reading conflicting sizes online. They might be 40mm..

Edit 2: lol...seems I was right they are 44ish mm according to Casascius -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47060.0

Interesting. Does anyone have any pics of these in an ANACS slab?

So did they change their form or something, as it still says 41 is the max?

https://i.imgur.com/NZzJQ71.png

I recently sent in a non-stickered Cas 25B to ANACS about 6 months ago.  They accepted it.

Has anybody got an extra set of this coin?
I am willing to buy it from them.

Btw can Titanium get stains when left exposed?

http://www.elementsales.com/ecoins_desc.htm (http://www.elementsales.com/ecoins_desc.htm)
"A tough, hard metal that actually was fairly easy to work with. Will not corrode or tarnish."

and

"Titanium is three times stronger than stainless steel and never tarnishes or rusts. "

Not to say you can't dip it in chemicals, food, and grape juice to leave oxides and residues.

There is going to be some out for sale, but at a profit.

Here is one of mine slabbed -> https://i.imgur.com/VqwCMFt.jpg I will be grading a bunch of these BTCC coins as soon as they arrive to me.

Well alright then, thanks a lot, good to know! ;)

 I was working a couple of hours. Video and photos on http://www.cryptophysical.com (http://www.cryptophysical.com)


http://images78.fotosik.pl/651/92e571364fc7e7efmed.jpg

To anyone interested in statistics, like how many coins there are etc..

Unofficial BTCC Coin Tracker: https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html

The data is updated every hour.

That is awesome, I suggested BTCC to update the lookup tool on their website to show the number of coins produced in each batch.
However your tracker is pretty helpful! Well done.

Thanks!

Great idea.  Love it.
Thanks for building this list and maintaining it with updates. 
Really nice to know if more are created and ever better to know how limited the coins are.  Strange that so many have already been redeemed.

Nice work Anduck! I am surprised how many of these have been redeemed already -> Redeemed total:     22

22, wow!  How many were made so far that we know of?

Anyone that redeemed one of their coins looking to sell the redeemed coin?  I would not like a fully peeled hologram, one as intact as possible.

https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html (https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html)

825  (25 of which are twins).

22 redeemed

BTCC has 5 errors left.   Oh, and the have some of the coins back in stock (with box).  Maybe a return shipment since new coins haven't been made.

Thanks, so about 2.5% of currently produced coins have been redeemed.

Ummm, if they don't want to pay, then the coins would go back to BTCC.
They would just resell them (which might explain why they have stock again).

Really nicely done!  I like it.
(It's also nice that these V-Series coins are all straight from the coinbase transaction, so it's incredibly easy and transparent as to the number of coins minted and redeemed.)

Since you've done such a nice job with your website at monitoring our production, I'll give you some cool tidbits and also an important correction:

1) the 50 address in your first 2 blocks (393716 & 393816) are actually NOT mined by us at BTCC.  Therefore, they were not part of any BTCC Mint coins at all.  I'm not sure how your algorithm picked up these two blocks.  If you could, please remove it from your DB so that users have more accurate information.

2) the next 4 blocks (394051, 394111, 405240, and 405251) were ours, but actually mined into our "artists proof" coins.  These are not the ones you see for sale now.  We've been using them for testing, which is why you see some redemptions. We have also saved some as souvenirs, and given some away to people.

3) blocks 409881 and onwards, are truly the 2016 V Series, One Bitcoin editions, made of Titanium.  Some early ones here have also been used for testing, photo shoots, and some damaged ones have been redeemed, etc.

Keep up the good work Anduck!

And stay tuned for more exciting products from BTCC Mint!

thanks,
Bobby

We just announced our new, extra large size, Five Bitcoin.  I'll post a new thread with photos...

At the same time, we released some more existing inventory of the One Bitcoin for sale, so that people can have a choice, and not feel like you're compelled to buy the much more expensive Five Bitcoin.  Just to be clear, these coins that are back in stock are NOT from returns, but rather we released inventory previously held back for our employees and investors. (We will produce more in our next production run for them.)

Enjoy!

thanks,
Bobby

While in direct communication with Anduck, he had already pointed out that the couple of blocks were not tagged as BTCC, but that he was going to make certain changes after the scans were complete.  It's very nice that commented and given more information to make the site complete.

Very nice.
So, umm, estimated number of 5BTC coins going to be produced?  Price?
And, more importantly, are you going to allow USA purchases? -- It's been difficult for many of us to get them.

For this series of the Five Bitcoin (meaning the 2-star, 2016 V Series in Titanium), we will only make a maximum of 500 coins total, regardless of sets and packaging.  We will limit the 5-coin set to 21 units only. 

As for USA purchases, we are really in a tough position.  Obviously, I understand the demand from the USA.  However, our repeated research tells us that unless we have a full set of money transmitter licenses for the USA, we cannot sell and ship physical bitcoins into the USA market.  So it's not a matter of personal preference at this point, but rather a matter of legality and compliance with the law.

If any of you can help us with better or more accurate information on this matter, or good work-arounds, we would love to hear from you.
(Any lawyers out there who can give us a better and more definitive answer?)

In the mean time, I'm sure there will be USA access to secondary markets. 
Unfortunately, that's the best answer I can give you at this moment.

thanks,
Bobby

I am all for a 5BTC coin and will be getting 1 or 2. It has been a real hassle to buy your last coins in the USA and I hope we can find an easier way.

The coins are a bit pricey (6 BTC). Especially since the coin isn't made of precious metal (or traditionally minted). Any reason why there is a 1 BTC premium on the coin?

Yes, it is pricey.  1 BTC premium is not cheap, and we fully understand that.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to address this issue on price.

The reason is simple: We are a real business and we want to make a profit, so that we can continue to operate, and fulfill our vision and mission of bringing to the world the most convenient and trustworthy digital currency services.  That's BTCC, and that's our passion.

I'm sure there are others out there, who wants to make physical bitcoins in a non-profit fashion.  I think that's also great and I commend them.  (As a consumer, I'm sure you would prefer to get everything you want, at the cheapest price.)

However, for us, we are operating as a company, spending money in R&D and marketing, and even created a really nice video showcasing the creation process of our Titanium physical bitcoins.  Hope you've watched and enjoyed that video.  These things take real effort; many employees involved, and real amounts of money.

Here's a link to the video again, in case you haven't seen it yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkmYwsd-VzU

In terms of the material, Titanium versus precious metal:  I've answered this before, in many ways, I truly feel that Titanium is better than gold or silver for physical bitcoins.  As you know, gold and silver, due to the precious metal nature, is still restricted at customs and border controls when going in/out of a country.  Do you really want to deal with that hassle when moving your physical bitcoins?  Besides, here's the most important question: Are you really buying the physical bitcoin for its (precious) metal value, or is it the bitcoin and the uniqueness of the newly mined bitcoin that is truly valuable?  I like the latter, and not the former.

With your help and support, we hope to be successful with this new line of business at BTCC.  And if we are, then we promise to continue to bring you more great products from BTCC Mint.  Trust me, there's lots more coming!  ;-)

thanks,
Bobby

Anduck, if you want to determine which blocks are for BTCC Mint coins, you can look for the "BTCC" in the coinbase block header of the transaction.  All BTCC Mint coins should have that in the header of coinbase.

This should help you filter out all of the non-BTCC blocks.

Thanks, Bobby!

Good feedback. I've now set the system to only look for BTCC-mined blocks. Also updated the site a little - shows the Five Bitcoin series coins now too.

These coins are definitely cool! I really like the material choice and that the bitcoins are mined straight into them.

-A

Hi Bobby,
I have some feedback regarding the 1 btc coin.  I've observed what appear to be air bubbles under the hologram sticker on some coins.  Another alternative is that it's dust or particles between the hologram sticker and the surface of the coin.  Hopefully this helps with improving your quality control.  Also, some coins have tiny dings that appear to be post-manufacturing process, maybe during handling.  As a collector, I'm crazy about perfect quality :)

BTW do you guys remember the BTCC April Fouls Video?

Bitcoin Mining Documentary Aired in China (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30rvfroRHTY&feature=youtu.be&t=2m31s)

At 2:31 you see the below:

https://i.imgur.com/c2SDTwN.png

Zoomed In:

https://i.imgur.com/bLa5QVb.png

And flat:

https://i.imgur.com/lGBfv6n.png

You can clearly see it's a gold coloured coin and it says 1 Bitcoin (with the number instead of "one" like in the Titanium version).
Also you don't see any print of V Series or the year. So I presume these were from the tests that Bobby mentioned.

The question in the screenshot seems appropriate too: how much would you sell a Bitcoin like this for?  :D

Maybe they have tested different materials before deciding on Titanium but I think there will be some surprises in the future, maybe Titanium (gold or silver plated coins)?
Or made of other unusual metals for coins?

Oh and I think the "V" in V Series stands for the roman numeral 5, of course I may be wrong.
They may be counting down from V (5), IV (4), III (3), II (2), I (1) or up, however why start with 5 not 1?

Maybe it's the 5th series after the tests or relates to the different materials they are going to use for different series?
The 5BTC version is still a V Series, maybe different designs?
They may be counting down from how many millions Bitcoins are still to be mined, currently 5,364,100...

I'm only assuming... Maybe is just a V.
I was born curious  ;D

I also have to say the coins even inside the plastic case have dust particles and some minor scuffs but can't tell for sure unless I open it up which I'm reluctant to do.
Some of the paperwork shows signs of titanium dust.

Need to make sure you guys assemble them in a clean environment.
As a collector I like to leave coins unopened in their plastic containers so would be great if this could improve.

Maybe "dirty coins" will have more value?  :D

Anduck, if you could, please add back the 4 earlier blocks?  (394051, 394111, 405240, and 405251)

Those are indeed BTCC Mint coins, just artists proofs, so it would be good to have them tracked as well, as some of them are in the public.


thanks,
Bobby

Or.... "fifth anniversary"

yah good one...  :)

http://www.econotimes.com/BTCC-celebrates-fifth-anniversary-launches-Five-Bitcoin-titanium-coin-219691

Defo think it's Vth anniversary :)

Just got an email from the tracker that new Fives were mined!

Got some discount codes for 5btc coin emailed based on 1btc coin purchase... Looks like it was a mass email, some others should be getting them too.

I think they started shipping them too

Yup - Just emailed in questions about the code being used for multiple qty.  


Interested.


They've been mining them for a couple days now.

Possibly interested

Nicely done - really great work.

Two weeks after shipment, FedEx send my bill 124.22 EUR  for one coin (one Bitcoin)
Thank you BTCC for extra tax. Burned my trust !

In their defense, certain shipments (few shipments) were listed at the full value of the coin.  They did say they would offer a discount on another coin purchase with a discount of the VAT charged.  I suggest you contact them and/or complain to FedEx about it.

VAT on my coins ended up being 85 Canadian for a large shipment.  I have yet to see if FedEx gets me for the import to the USA, but with the size of my order, I could get hurt.

Also, if you get a discount and/or coupon that you don't want to use, I am sure someone else would like to get it (at a discounted rate) from you.

I got really lucky. BTCC also listed my coin with the full value but I didn't get charged with VATs at all. I guess it slipped through customs  :-\. I still don't like their solution of giving a discount on a future purchase. That forces you to buy a new product instead of fixing their fault. A huge company like BTCC could easily refund the select people that were overcharged with VATs and still make a decent profit. Handling issues like this in a professional matter is also great advertisement and could increase their sales.

Let's see what they do..

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i emailed them a couple weeks ago about the customs duty i was charged by fedex, with a scan of the fedex slip. no response.

I got email from BTCC with a coupon. But I do not ordering more.

2016 V Series, Five Bitcoin cost 6.00 BTC it's about 800+ EUR Tax

It is a mistake to send fully loaded coins. They can not enter a smaller value, insurance cover to the value entered on the bill.
And that is a mistake?, it's bullshit. BTCC will not risked loss of shipment ( coin plus BTC).  I would suggest to ask how many coins were stolen in transit ( Titan, Denarium or other.)

Money at the counter and business rolling.

In the Netherlands by PostNL pay tax immediately, by FedEX later ( I have after 2 weeks envelope with the bill)

I received a letter from FedEX too but it didn't contain a bill. They sent me a copy of the original receipt I could save in my administration. I also emailed them as soon as the coin got delivered and they also said that customs didn't charge any VATs.

I just seen a pic of the address printed on the holo, they look "blotty" in pics, how are they in person, is the print sharp?

sardokan, you're EU based man ? right ?

( just to know what about wait on.. )

The actual print is very sharp and easily read.

I posted a thread on redeeming and other information.
There is a picture of the label from the video and another post in the thread of a direct camera picture of the label.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1513929 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1513929)
Scroll to post #8 - Clear picture of the label.

Thanks Michail1 but i was talking about the public key on the outside, the private key does look sharp though

The public key is clear as well.  Keep in mind that it is a hologram that it is printed on.  So, pictures make a reflection, etc.

Also note:  The coin comes with a booklet.  The public key and QR code is on the inside of the first page.  Clearly printed as well.

Perfect thanks.  Also appreciate your other thread as well from the peeling.  Think im in for 1 or 2 now.

I have a suggestion for your next production runs.  Would you consider utilizing "coin turn" alignment please?  That is, when you are looking at obverse and flip the coin, you don't need to rotate it...  it's common when using dies to stamp blanks, but I don't know if these are stamped, cast or milled.  regardless, it's something to consider

According to their video they are stamped with an hydraulic press.

https://youtu.be/KkmYwsd-VzU?t=1m7s

And there's the unexpected FedEx bill ..

Wasn't impressed at getting this I have to say.  ouch

$? Location?

Got mine too! Ouch!

In the UK they come later, but they come. The first shipments were the worse in terms of what was declared.
However care was since taken to make it right as VAT for BTC loaded onto the physical shouldn't be paid.

UK
£94.15
or
$138.30

Aye, looks like this may warrant further investigation and communication.

I think Bobby mentioned they messed up the first couple orders and offered discounts on further purchases if you email them and send them your order number - not a refund of course, but at least credit ... most stores do that in the US actually sadly... "Oh, no you can't have your money back, here's credit instead so you have to spend it here"!... :P

Are these the coupon codes that were sent to others?

Also, can they be stacked.  If so, I would take them.
(Stacking would be the requirement)

Hi,

Why in your checkout process i see:

NSA???

But from your FAQ there:

Is it your special feature: don't ship to US but my info to transfer to US (email, address)?

Ah crap. As we expected >:( How much was your bill coin@coin? I'm UK based so be good to know.

It shouldn't be an issue anymore. BTCC accidently added the bitcoin value on the customs form. Now they only use the coin's value so the VATs are a lot lower.

My first coin stung me :(
£96 .. ouch

The second coin did NOT give me the same issue as has been mentioned above :)

Yep same as vizique, but in my case I had quite a few coins... So it stung quite a bit more even though no BTC value was declared.
Subsequent orders where much better. So should be pretty safe now.

Fortunately, I only had to pay $75 VAT on an order larger than most.  Of course, being in the USA, I had to route through Canada first which means I ended up paying double shipping and used FedEx ($185 - It was a large box).

Thanks for that. I remember in 2014 when I purchased 1 of each coin from Titan Mint, so the Titan Tenth 0.1BTC, Titan One 1BTC, Titan One Silver 1BTC and Titan One Gold 1BTC.. Got a bill from FedEx a week after delivery asking me to pay ~£240. I contested it by email, stating they had charged me VAT and Duty on a "Legal Tender" 1oz Gold Coin, which is exempt from such charges ;D I received a revised bill for ~£25 several days later :D So glad that they didn't bother asking for proof that this was indeed a Legal Tender coin!

I tell you what... I just received a Titan Gold, yes there are still few available, dealt with Tim directly, and I had to pay £300 custom duty... Waiting for an invoice so I can contest it too.

Please PM me with the price he's charging for a Gold Titan :)
Just do what I did, say you've been charged duty on a 1oz legal tender gold coin, which is exempt, and you should have it removed. I say should because if they ask for proof that this is indeed legal tender, you're probably screwed. Hope you get lucky like I did :)
My Gold is currently with monkeynuts, to be sent back for another round of grading at ANACS.

Edit: have you already paid this, couldn't tell from your response ??? If so you may have to ask HMRC for it back which would be more lengthy timewise, and they're likely to be smarter than FedEx and catch you out with it not being legal tender = VAT and Duty being owed.

Yes they asked for the money before they would deliver. And PMd :)

Ah shit! I've asked about another one, if agreed I'm going to ask him to mark it 'Legal Tender' on the package ;D

Good idea I wish I knew better. But good learning... At a price LOL

Good luck, but I really doubt he would do that.  Just can't be putting his business in a strange position if he gets a call from US Customs.

I know there are Gold coins left.  If not, I have a few left. :)

Well, there's no harm in trying ;) I've been informed that there's a few left :) I understand where you're coming from, especially coming from the US, that there's a good chance he won't.. I'm just trying to work out if they provide good value for money with £300 customs on top.. ??? It doesn't look like it. With minimal fee's, they are a great price though.
Where you located Michail1?

Thing is it will be insured for the value of gold. Nevertheless give it a go see what Tim says.

You've got a good point man. And if FedEx want payment before delivery, it'll leave me in the same boat.
Anyway, this thread has had enough derailing, let's get this back on topic! :)

For all of you interested in some official mintage statistics of our BTCC Mint coins:

As the block halving is now over, we have finished making all pre-halving 2016 "2-star" coins.
That's it!  It's done.  No more can be made!

One Bitcoin, 2016 V Series (2-star):
- 100 Artists Proofs, of which 97 are Gold-plated alloy, and 3 are Titanium (blocks 394051, 394111, 405240, and 405251)
- 1,350 Regular Titanium coins
- 25 Titanium coins, in "Twins" (double-funded by sequential blocks 413851 and 413852)
Total made: 1,475

thanks,
Bobby

Would be great to have the minting stats added to your "Lookup" page.
Some people will follow your posts here others may go directly to your site.

Having a place with all the mint stats for all your editions would be good.

Just a suggestion.

I agree.

Also keep in mind the tracker that anduck has at:
https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html (https://anduck.net/bitcoin/btcc_coins.html)