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Economy => Currency exchange => Topic started by: DelanovaLTD on June 11, 2016, 07:46:18 PM



Title: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: DelanovaLTD on June 11, 2016, 07:46:18 PM
Dear,

We are a seychelles Company currently building up a bitcoins exchange market.

As bitcoins is not really popular down here, we believe that there is an opportunity to develop it and spread it across the country, and beyond the frontiers (Mauritius…).

For that matter, we need large amounts of bitcoins at the optimal rate as we are looking to obviously, provide it to our customers afterwards.
We probably need between 70 to 100k BTC.

However, we are looking for the most attractive rate out there and due to the amounts engaged, we are giving priority to establishing a trust relationship as we are not looking for a single deal.

The payment will be made through a SWIFT transfer, and we can arrange our bank to provide any proof of the execution of the wire to your bank account and you can also call them if you want or need to.

Basically, when you get the confirmation that the wire have been actually executed (We will arrange our bank to provide you the necessary documents), and when you received the wire in your bank account we ask you to release the bitcoins.

We also require basic verifications such as ID and proof of residence due to our laws.

And on our side, we are willing to provide ID and also corporate documents (Certificate of incorporation, Documents confirming the appointment of company directors and secretary, Registered office…)

Do not hesitate to reach us.
Not answering PM'S.

inquiry@delanova.fr

Delanova ltd.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: Nobitcoin on June 11, 2016, 07:55:14 PM
Hasn't April fools passed already ? Props for making me laugh though  :D


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: truckerJoe on June 11, 2016, 08:10:55 PM
Dear,

We are a seychelles Company currently building up a bitcoins exchange market.

As bitcoins is not really popular down here, we believe that there is an opportunity to develop it and spread it across the country, and beyond the frontiers (Mauritius…).

For that matter, we need large amounts of bitcoins at the optimal rate as we are looking to obviously, provide it to our customers afterwards.
We probably need between 70 to 100k BTC.

However, we are looking for the most attractive rate out there and due to the amounts engaged, we are giving priority to establishing a trust relationship as we are not looking for a single deal.

The payment will be made through a SWIFT transfer, and we can arrange our bank to provide any proof of the execution of the wire to your bank account and you can also call them if you want or need to.

Basically, when you get the confirmation that the wire have been actually executed (We will arrange our bank to provide you the necessary documents), and when you received the wire in your bank account we ask you to release the bitcoins.

We also require basic verifications such as ID and proof of residence due to our laws.

And on our side, we are willing to provide ID and also corporate documents (Certificate of incorporation, Documents confirming the appointment of company directors and secretary, Registered office…)

Do not hesitate to reach us.
Not answering PM'S.

inquiry@delanova.fr

Delanova ltd.


this is the dumbest, laziest scam attempt
100k btc is 60 million dollars hahaha
proof of swift my ass
for that much money you have to register with the IMF and BIS


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: DelanovaLTD on June 11, 2016, 08:42:24 PM
Hello,

Our offer is absolutely serious.

We are looking for 70-100K$ WORTH in BTC in case you did not understand.

Regards,

Delanova Ltd.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: truckerJoe on June 11, 2016, 08:46:35 PM
Hello,

Our offer is absolutely serious.

We are looking for 70-100K$ WORTH in BTC in case you did not understand.

Regards,

Delanova Ltd.

"...We probably need between 70 to 100k BTC..."


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: DelanovaLTD on June 11, 2016, 08:50:06 PM
Thats means $ worth in btc, that sounds pretty logical


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: scox on June 11, 2016, 08:54:25 PM
Thats means $ worth in btc, that sounds pretty logical
you might kist want to fix the OP to clear this misunderstanding huh? No need to get all defensive, this is a bitcoin forum and when 1k btc is stated rather than 1k $ in btc (1.8 btc), the sum of 1000 btc comes to mind (580k$)


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: regor on June 11, 2016, 08:58:09 PM
What proof can you provide that you are actually a legitimate company? If you're looking to start a company of that size, maybe you should go through an actual bank for at least some of your funds so you can prove to the board that this is serious. Banks would vet your business plan and would be a credible ally in your mission to raise funds and interest.

Do you have an edge into the market? How many potential customers are in Seychelles, and why would they do business with you? Would these customers prefer an online, global, established exchange?

I see that you're a newbie on this forum, like me, so who are you and what are your qualifications? Who else is on your team?

What are we getting back? Equity? Or is this a loan?

Sorry to bother you with the questions, but it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to scams.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K BTC)
Post by: DelanovaLTD on June 11, 2016, 09:11:56 PM
Hi regor,

I appreciate your advices, but fortunately our company is setting up after a solid market study and the business plan has also been submitted to our bank.
It would not have been accepted, if there was no customers.

We have our set of corporate document that we will only show to sellers willing to deal with us. Sellers will also be able to call bank, registered office, whatever they want if they need some more confidence.

We can also arrange a meeting if the seller has more than 50% we are asking at a valuable rate to us.

Sorry for the mistake in the title, I will try to fix it!

Regards,

Delanova ltd.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: etparle on June 11, 2016, 09:14:33 PM
Watching, most probably a scam but could be legit.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: DebitMe on June 11, 2016, 09:15:21 PM
If you want to start off small and work on trust between the two of us, we can go through Western union and Walmart to walmart at 6% over spot and work up the amount after each successful transfer. Let me know if you interested.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: DelanovaLTD on June 11, 2016, 09:18:18 PM
How the hell could we be a scam... Damn
It's not like if we were asking to receive bitcoins for free....



Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: s1lverbox on June 11, 2016, 09:22:22 PM
If my math is right you need 120-170BTC

I think that amount is not really massive and hard to get.

If you looking for cheapest on the market i suggest kraken/bitstamp/coinfloor

Send money from your "bank" by sepa to one of them and buy directly cutting out middle man.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: Nobitcoin on June 11, 2016, 09:27:22 PM
If my math is right you need 120-170BTC

I think that amount is not really massive and hard to get.

If you looking for cheapest on the market i suggest kraken/bitstamp/coinfloor

Send money from your "bank" by sepa to one of them and buy directly cutting out middle man.


That does sound like a more reasonable amount but I can't find the so called exchange that your trying to fund.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: DelanovaLTD on June 11, 2016, 09:33:11 PM
The fact is SEPA is available in EU zone and we are not.
Bank fees plus fees from those sites are quite high.

That is why we are looking for an individual and counting on large amounts to have a rate that will, all in all, be better than proceeding the other way.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: serje on June 11, 2016, 09:39:02 PM
So in Seychelles are 97,026 people and 56,168 have internet(57.9%) and if you buy 170BTC and everyone wants a share of it that will be 0.00302663BTC per person

will this exchange be online or only in person in Seychelles?


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: s1lverbox on June 11, 2016, 10:54:53 PM
The fact is SEPA is available in EU zone and we are not.
Bank fees plus fees from those sites are quite high.

That is why we are looking for an individual and counting on large amounts to have a rate that will, all in all, be better than proceeding the other way.


To verify yourself please provide all neccesary info about your called business.

SO we can verify.  You asking to buy BTC with cash which smells fishy as hell.

Dont bring any of this sepa /bank fees to the table. You apparently have 100k to spend and you worry about few bucks?

Seriously this is trolling or sting for someone.

U dont worry that you will have to pay premium of at least 5-6% and on top you will have to go through that silly KYC just to even start talking about deal? Do you realise that you have to deliver money to someone worldwide and that cost too? your story have wholes.

I dont buy it.

Quick lookup of your email domain brings quick outcome:

http://who.is/whois/delanova.fr

nic-hdl:     PB22949-FRNIC
type:        PERSON
contact:     Patxxx Bouxxx
address:     12, rue du bois
address:     92600 Courbevoie
country:     FR
phone:       +33 6 40 xxxxxxx
e-mail:      mick.xxxxt@outlook.com
registrar:   One.com A/S
changed:     10/06/2016 nic@nic.fr
anonymous:   NO
obsoleted:   NO
eligstatus:  ok
eligdate:    10/06/2016 10:32:47
source:      FRNIC


So in your description you have no issue to wire money to account so again im asking why not wire that to xchange directly?


....Basically, when you get the confirmation that the wire have been actually executed (We will arrange our bank to provide you the necessary documents), and when you received the wire in your bank account we ask you to release the bitcoins.

We also require basic verifications such as ID and proof of residence due to our laws.

And on our side, we are willing to provide ID and also corporate documents (Certificate of incorporation, Documents confirming the appointment of company directors and secretary, Registered office…)....


Why you need to verify person which sells you bitcoins? Its you who have to show id no the other way.

Seller dont have to verify yourself with you what so ever, maybe you should add that due to high amount involved and AML seller must provide id etc....





Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: xetsr on June 12, 2016, 03:23:14 AM
How the hell could we be a scam... Damn
It's not like if we were asking to receive bitcoins for free....

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Sounds like this will end in someone losing their BTC and or getting their identity stolen.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: etparle on June 12, 2016, 03:46:41 AM
How the hell could we be a scam... Damn
It's not like if we were asking to receive bitcoins for free....

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Sounds like this will end in someone losing their BTC and or getting their identity stolen.

Or both. I was sure the OP was smelling fishy as soon as he made the mistake $k$.
I hope he gets what he deserves.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: Quickseller on June 12, 2016, 09:26:26 AM
The payment will be made through a SWIFT transfer, and we can arrange our bank to provide any proof of the execution of the wire to your bank account and you can also call them if you want or need to.

Basically, when you get the confirmation that the wire have been actually executed (We will arrange our bank to provide you the necessary documents), and when you received the wire in your bank account we ask you to release the bitcoins.
For clarification, bitcoin should only be released to the OP upon independent verification/confirmation from your own bank that funds have been received and that they cannot be reversed.

Your ID requirement is one that will most likely turn off many legit sellers, and will open people up to the risk of identity theft. For amounts this large, I would suggest that you wire USD to your bitfinex account that you can use to purchase BTC at what will most likely be rates that are in line with the market.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: immangrace on June 12, 2016, 02:22:58 PM
As a company you can go to one of the big exchanges that accept bank deposit and buy from them directly, here you raise a lot of suspicion asking for such amounts from normal person.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: abhishek.g on June 12, 2016, 04:04:46 PM
If you are really looking for the bitcoins then you can swift transfer to my account and I will make the bitcoins transfer as soon as I get the money Swift transferred .


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: regor on June 12, 2016, 04:39:11 PM
Does the OP have an established bitcoin talk account to begin the first part of verification?

I agree with most people on here with the established campaign financing. Even if you got 25 BTC from an established exchange it would help in proving you're legit.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: freebets on June 12, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
If you are really looking for the bitcoins then you can swift transfer to my account and I will make the bitcoins transfer as soon as I get the money Swift transferred .
wow and you have 50k btc ???? be aware op dont send any swift to this guy he dont have btc


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: theskillzdatklls on June 13, 2016, 12:09:10 AM
sent pm will see if legit


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: knightkon on June 13, 2016, 02:17:50 AM
The payment will be made through a SWIFT transfer, and we can arrange our bank to provide any proof of the execution of the wire to your bank account and you can also call them if you want or need to.

Basically, when you get the confirmation that the wire have been actually executed (We will arrange our bank to provide you the necessary documents), and when you received the wire in your bank account we ask you to release the bitcoins.
For clarification, bitcoin should only be released to the OP upon independent verification/confirmation from your own bank that funds have been received and that they cannot be reversed.

Your ID requirement is one that will most likely turn off many legit sellers, and will open people up to the risk of identity theft. For amounts this large, I would suggest that you wire USD to your bitfinex account that you can use to purchase BTC at what will most likely be rates that are in line with the market.
I am sorry I would not even do this with independent verification.  I have done to much research with some of these scams.  This could be someone with another persons bank information to make a legit wire, only to find out later that the account information was stolen and they are gone with the BTC leaving you in a lot of trouble.  Worst yet, this could be some form of terrorist cell laundering money.  I just did a check myself and with a new coinbase account you can get 70 to 100k USD in BTC in just under 10 days.  I have been in business for many years and one thing I can be sure of is that if this was a legal up front company, they would not be here asking for that much in BTC.  SCAM written all over it.  DO NOT TRUST.  If you doubt me, call any BTC friendly bank and tell them what you are looking to do for this company.  I bet if you are in the USA, Homeland will be at your door within hours.

Please retract offer, lock thread and go get this money from a legal source such as coinbase, a company registered to do this for you.


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: knightkon on June 13, 2016, 02:25:22 AM
If you are really looking for the bitcoins then you can swift transfer to my account and I will make the bitcoins transfer as soon as I get the money Swift transferred .
PLEASE Do not do this.  They could be using a stolen account which no one has realized is stolen yet, because nothing has been missing.  Once the money is in your account, it can be traced, but once you send that BTC out, they could disappear leaving you holding the loaded gun with nothing buy an BTC address you sent to which will not be traceable to anyone. 


Title: Re: Company looking for large amounts (50-100K$ in BTC)
Post by: WaffleMaster on June 13, 2016, 06:32:14 AM
The payment will be made through a SWIFT transfer, and we can arrange our bank to provide any proof of the execution of the wire to your bank account and you can also call them if you want or need to.

Basically, when you get the confirmation that the wire have been actually executed (We will arrange our bank to provide you the necessary documents), and when you received the wire in your bank account we ask you to release the bitcoins.
For clarification, bitcoin should only be released to the OP upon independent verification/confirmation from your own bank that funds have been received and that they cannot be reversed.

Your ID requirement is one that will most likely turn off many legit sellers, and will open people up to the risk of identity theft. For amounts this large, I would suggest that you wire USD to your bitfinex account that you can use to purchase BTC at what will most likely be rates that are in line with the market.
I am sorry I would not even do this with independent verification.  I have done to much research with some of these scams.  This could be someone with another persons bank information to make a legit wire, only to find out later that the account information was stolen and they are gone with the BTC leaving you in a lot of trouble.  Worst yet, this could be some form of terrorist cell laundering money.  I just did a check myself and with a new coinbase account you can get 70 to 100k USD in BTC in just under 10 days.  I have been in business for many years and one thing I can be sure of is that if this was a legal up front company, they would not be here asking for that much in BTC.  SCAM written all over it.  DO NOT TRUST.  If you doubt me, call any BTC friendly bank and tell them what you are looking to do for this company.  I bet if you are in the USA, Homeland will be at your door within hours.

Please retract offer, lock thread and go get this money from a legal source such as coinbase, a company registered to do this for you.
Any transaction over 10k needs to be reported and filed to the Feds under special condition for anti money laundering laws. I think maybe this person is just a scammer and not a terrorist trying to launder money because they could do so $9,000 at a time without needing to be publicly sketchy on an internet forum.