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Well, the Brits voted for the "leave".

False : 51,9% voted for that option. This means that 48,1% shows their wills denied. Is that the dream, the perfection ? A system where there's most of the time half of the population unhappy ?

Democracy is simply two wolves constantly fighting each other, with one taking temporally the lead from a short advance...

Democracy means that the treasonous 48.1% can clear off and go and live with Richard Branson. :)

Let me guess, we should appoint you our tyrant and keep you supplied with fresh women and GPUs?

And what do you propose better?


The "treasonous" are the youger generations. It means the "treasonous" are the ones who will live with this decision while the good nationalist old fags are going to all die in 20 years simply because they're too old. It's simply the victory of dumb old fags regretting the "good old tim" and that makes me sick...

I've been reading a vast amount of forums today.

One anecdote that keeps popping up time and time again is -

Youngperson - I can't fucking believe it's leave. My future's wrecked.

Olderperson - Why didn't you vote then?

Youngperson - Huh? I just assumed it was gonna be remain. Anyway I didn't wanna get wet and was on a COD killstreak.

Come on - the old fags are having to go back to work to keep the idle young on benefits.
Are you living in England?

Democracy is a parlamentarian system with recognition of minority opinions by the elected representatives of the people.

Direct voting of yes and no - is on the other hand bullshit.

This referendum was delivered by an elected parliament. Ergo it is democratic. And the result shows it's even more democratic than anybody actually wanted.

Is the referendum binding? I read somewhere that it was non-binding so the government can technically ignore the results if they want to...

That is how the elections work. Brexit beat Bremain by a solid 4% margin. A win is a win, even if the winning margin is 0.1% or 10%. You need to ask why the Brits, who were overwhelmingly in favor of Bremain a few months ago, changed their decision almost overnight. Two main reasons - uncontrolled Arab immigration (encouraged by Merkel) and the prospect of Turkey becoming an EU member.

I have a feeling they will wake up with this big huge deal of remorse in their faces. So not a very wise choice with this Brexit. They won't get themselves back even if they want to.

I think it's likely to be a disaster but pretty fascinating all the same. If you check the faces of those who led the leave campaign this morning they all look slightly shell shocked that it actually happened. I think quite a few who voted for it feel the same way.

:D !




A 75% majority, or at least 60%. Or simply no referendum. My ideal political system is a bit complex to be explained here. That's a kind of order democracy.

So funny. I can't really answer that without absention figures but for current estimation young absention seems really low compared to usual.

And could you even think about why? I'm not English but as far as I know the first reason for young people absention is not that they're on COD... It's mainly because contrary to old fags that never move, they don't live in one city. I couldn't vote for my first election simply because I was not living in the city where my election card was valid. But of course that's not possible to understand for an old fag that never lived anywhere but in his shity old village ><

But glad you feel it's normal to see people aged 65+ to decide for people aged 20+... Long live the  gerontocracy!

My little dialogue was silly but seems to be popping up like clockwork.

There've only been three referendums in modern times in the UK (RIP) so comparing turnout figures to elections can't be a direct comparison.

For starters the Glastonbury Festival's been going since Wednesday which removes over 100,000 mainly young folk from the electorate. I seriously doubt most of them were organised enough to sort a postal vote beforehand.

Old folks are always more committed voters. Young folks should've been communicated with more effectively. I think this whole result is purely down to pisspoor communication. The leaves didn't feel they were being listened to. The remains didn't want to listen to them.

Brexit is democracy at its best, It was a close call so basically half the people who voted will be disappointed but its still better than having the government you voted in choose for you. As you are probably aware there is never a good party to vote in, Only the least bad.

Its not often the general public get to vote on such important measures so its important not to waste your vote, If the younger generation decided they couldn't be bothered voting for their future then tough shit.

How The British Media Lied And Tricked Us Into Joining The EU

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/howthebritishmedia.htm (http://www.vernoncoleman.com/howthebritishmedia.htm)

They lied of course, and millions fell for it, if the youngsters wanted to learn something, this is the kind of thing they needed to read.
I fell for this also, this time around we got our sweet revenge.

lol at a Bitcoiner having such faith in """democracy"""

If an issue is split almost 50-50, the only fair option would be a compromise on the issue itself. (Not making any claims that that would have been possible in this case - but 48% of people having zero representation demonstrates how flawed this "democracy" is). And I would say that if Remain had won, too.

Agreed with OP.

They had a choice. The first choice was to become a vassal state of the German fourth Reich, and see their country overrun by immigrants hordes from Turkey and Syria. The second choice was to keep the sovereignty, and to accept only the highly skilled immigrants. The brits chose the latter option, and I congratulate them for making the right choice.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CluMDGeWYAAhS9x.jpg

It is possible to vote via the postal service. This is how expats vote of course. Unfortunately the German Post Office has taken over the Royal mail, and the service had gone down "das klo". This was another incentive to get out of the EU.

I appreciate that not all of the young people are able to use the postal service unless they can attach a printer to their 'phone

That's too late for such concerns. London is now longer the great capital of the mighty British Empire, now that's more Londistan.

I remember when "my word is my bond" was the philosophy of the City of London. Now look at the fraud, theft and deception that goes on there. Some attribute it to the invasion of foreign bankers. :)