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Let this shitcoin die, it's already seen it's pump/dump.

Wonderful! The threads that were on biz last week were fucking awesome, highly enjoyable lads. I'm really looking forward to seeing the new videos and the holding of a fund in more legible hands.

TAKEOVER  donald TRUMPCOIN  ;)

I no longer have a vested interest, but if there is any way forward this is it.

Idk what do so i will just do nothing and hold and see how this all plays out im not a dev or anything im just a trader.

I trust chicken65 with the fund because he's personally handled my coins (+- 50k) but I question his methods in order to obtain trump's endorsement and legitimizing the coin.
That's why I was really happy the new team could take over the marketing side of things while chicken65 was in the background doing his own thing.

Sadly this blew up after the Alex Jones stuff (apparently the plug was uncertain but the way it was posted didn't strongly imply this).
I'm willing to give the new team another chance to see what they can do.

can'tstump is working with or simply is the same person as chicken. that much is for sure. Idiots might leave their job unattended, but they don't leave their investments unattended through a 75% price reduction. Can'tstump made 0 posts while chicken crashed the coin for 48 hours. Do you guys think this chickenshit idiot would leave his project to someone he wasn't close with? Chicken singlehandedly picked out cantstump as the new guy in charge.

My guess to what has happened here is chicken sold the trumpfund during the rise and has been crashing the coin on purpose with his antics to accumulate coins. If he achieved this successfully he would have profited hundreds of thousands of coins and he is a scammer. This has become a tainted project, a scam coin. It can never again gain any form of mainstream attention without these issues looking everyone in the face.

The coin does no longer have the trust of the community, even hardforking his shitty fund will do no good because he's accumulated a shit ton of coins because of this. If someone still is motivated and wants to start a new coin and call it something like a trumpdollar then i suggest you do so now before time is up.

If you want to work your ass off trying to make chicken rich off his scam then continue working for free for him on making this coin great. He's laughing his fucking ass of at you.

Fuck you nigga

You just know this repeat



 Link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ojTKkfgvwvU/hqdefault.jpg
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOvBgmZXs5Q)


 Link
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oFVdu2tgUHI/hqdefault.jpg
 (http://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=rdsmuElafSY)

SPOT ON! AND I HAVE SAID THIS COUNTLESS TIMES!!!!!!! SPOT ON MAN!!!!!!!!!

Chicken consistently sockpuppets himself on both his current thread and the previous, using the same formatting and syntax for every account he uses to agree with himself. He's clearly slipped away from pursuing a future for the coin and is more concerned with reactionary bullshit and narcissistic assertions.

CantStump is an entirely different person and I can say that as someone who has seen the two of them interact outside of the context of these threads. They live on different sides of the world and have very different ideas for the coin, with CantStump's clearly focussing on more realistic promotion strategies as well as an overall more transparent promulgation of information. His "disappearance" was him off a computer for a few days with his family which he's been perfectly fine with admitting and if not for chicken's ridiculous rant the coin would've rocketed then stabilised at 15 stats as opposed to the dwindling amount it is now. Every time chicken makes an emotionally heated comment the price lowers and the mere mention of his removal is raising the price as we speak. He made CantStump the dev and needs to live with the decisions he makes.

His constant question dodging, deletion of dissent and overall scattered demeanour bode poorly for the coin and do not reflect an image representative of a Trump-tied currency. This coin is about the community and Trump, not the solipsistic desires and beliefs of a dev who has consistently acted unprofessionally and downright ridiculously. The marketing team have been very active on /biz/ and any comments they've attempted to make have been deleted or scorned by chicken's irrationality.

Notice how this thread isnt moderated? Why might that be?

Voltaire: "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise"

Chicken is welcome to remain a participant of the community, but his attention seeking and drama need to go.

i'm really glad you came here and posted your anecdotal evidence on why they aren't in line with eachother. Did you think they were gonna make it more obvious than it already is? Did you think there was gonna be 0 things that made it seem like they're not working together?

Chicken orchestrated this and at worst has profited a couple 100k coins off it. People here who want to lend their time to making a scammer rich just for a little profit on their 1k investment 4 months ago in march or before the pump, then be my guest. If you guys ever get rid of chicken and are able to get any kind of media attention it will quickly be known that a scammer crashed the coin to accumulate a massive amount of total supply and everyone is at his mercy.

The coin is dead, sorry for your loss of profit to everybody who bought 100k+ worth of coins at 1/20th the current price months ago. You're still a winner, move on to the next project. It would be anyones kneejerk reaction to try and save the project if they're sitting on 100k+ coins and for that I do not mind your shilling. The truth has to be put out there though. The coin is hopeless now and I hope you big holders see that as well.

Can we create a new coin or something?

It's not anecdotal, just look at their speech patterns. Chicken's puppet accounts are instantly visible as they share his trademark illiteracy. You can refer to /biz/ for DreadlordColi (marketing guy) or CantStump himself who have been posting there in open opposition to a lot of chicken's behaviour and proposals. I've got a challenge for you. Go on skype, call both of them and see if they sound like the same person.

Report results.

Til then baseless accusations are yours to make but it would be wise to notice what page allows conflict and and debate and which doesn't.

R.I.P TRUMP

I've been thinking about this. Creating a new coin would be difficult. Not only would we lose Trump, as a icon(which is very important for publicity and buyers), we would be hardpressed to find a new one that isn't him. We couldn't make a new Trumpcoin because it would connect to Chicken, and wouldn't look good.

Just give up on Trump, invest in putin.

there's no need, this one is still in relative infancy and would not take much to restructure

we have a solid dev team ready to work, a new trump fund being formed and a media content infrastructure set in place

it seems needlessly wasteful to dump all this at the whims of one selfish holder who, if he's refusing to even consider relinquishing the trump fund in any regard, is simply holding up progress and can be easily replaced

I really hope people don't lose faith & the coup succeeds.

Chicken 65 has agreed to put the coins in an escrow. We can put the coins for the trump campaign into a wallet that has a encryption that cant be lifted until a certain time. This would ensure that whoever was holding the coins offline still couldnt spend them. This coukd he done with a encrypted paperwallet and a passphrase that lifts the encryption at a specific time. I would be willing to store 200,000 + coins offline. If the community would want me to. I would store the coins offline but couldnt spend them until the passphrase was released at a specific date. Do you understand? Id be willing to do it but if you find someone else to do it this way it would put everyones mind at ease and chiken65 is open to putting the coins in a secure escrow or at leasst he said he was but that was before all thus stuff

well ofcourse he's gonna change his tone now. If he has accumulated coins, no reason to tank this any longer. How many coins do you think Chicken + his team bought up during this drop? :)


Good luck investing in this coin. I'll do my best to continue warning people of the scam this has become. The more truth put out there, the more easy to work with Chicken will seemingly become. Wouldn't be suprised if he and his team are sitting on around 1mill coins at this point. if this coin crashed it would be one of the biggest failed scam attempts in fucking crypto history. It would make my fucking month if that happened.

A team of people scammed 1/xth of the total supply into their own hands, but here Alex Jones look at this coin and support it, come and invest over here!

You brought in the DBIC pumpers you idiot. The very same guys who despise Trump and the coin. Call it group preference. That's who your working with now eh….
Carry on and try and deflect the damage you did on to me. 10 days in and you fked it - now your going for recovery and playing the white knight. Let no one
forget your were the dev during all that nonsense, not me.I will enjoy nothing more than sittting back waiting for you to do you thing. Somehow though
I have a strong feeling you wont do a damn thing. Prove me wrong.

Whats interesting as well - when you first got in to this you were bright eyed and innocent, loving it. Now your a cynical greedy, lying asshole.
Thats what Crypto has done to you. Sad….. :-\ It happens to most in Crypto, many of them on this thread of yours, your new pals.

But what about Alex Jones & Robert David Steele?

You can't delete me here, so I'll repeat what I said. There were spikes and dips under Cantstump, but the fact is even when it went to 7k sat, which you caused when you messed with the fund without telling anyone, that was still higher than the 3k sat it was when you were the dev. They were taking the coin to great places, the Alex Jones caused a dip but that stabilized back to 10-15k sat. You are ruining this coin.

Okay, here is the solution to this problem,and its very simple: As a community, we organize and elect a new leadership team and ignore Chicken65 (and his sockpuppets).

All activity by Chicken65 will simply be cast out as a rogue Trumpcoin fan that has nothing to do with the official management team. As "payment" Chicken65 may keep his Trump Fund and whatever other coins he may have accumulated, and do what he likes with it. If he wants to donate, great, if not, oh well.

It is important that the community comes together and elect new leaders. Whoever owns the .com domain should chime in.

The good news is that if we can fix the blockchain, then a fork doesnt even need to happen and this transition can go even smoother. If someone with some technical expertise could shine some light on the question of fork or no fork, and the status of the blockchain.

We also need to vet the old leaders, particularly CantStump. We all know Chicken65 uses sockpuppets and has several alt accounts.

Finally, I would float the possibility of creating a separate backers forum, possibly on a simple free forum website where we can consolidate everyone ( I know theres people on /biz/ reading this) that is interested in the project.

I know another member suggested the creation of a special Trumpfund wallet that will be locked until a certain date to be donated to Trump's campaign, which I think is a great idea.

If chicken wants to cash out, let him. If he donates, then all the better. We hold the most amount of coins as THE PEOPLE. Which cannot be taken away from us. Chicken is all but one man. We cannot allow him to ruin us.

I don't know how far my credibility carries here but I can vouch for CantStump based on every interaction I've had with him

He's never expressed any desire other than to see the coin do well and I think he's being treated grossly unfairly here

Who paid you the 25k for the video, him or me?

Are you delusional? NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE


OUT! OUT! OUT!

I'm not getting into a shitfight, I'm saying I've spoken to him and I have no discrepancies to report in regards to his character

However you want to take that is fine, all I want is to see this coin grow and I appreciate what you sent me.

Chicken and CantStump are really Trump and Hillary acting like they don't like each other? Chicken are you really Donald?  ;D

http://i63.tinypic.com/fo29f4.jpg

Just talked with the Trumpcontent creator. He's an aussie, and doesn't sound scottish (if that is the rumor)

He's his own guy and sounds fine. I'm 90 percent sure he is not Chicken.

I just posted +1 in response to post by Signal7 on the moderated trumpcoin thread and had my +1 post deleted.

glad to see this coin trying to claw its way back from the dead

everyone has faith in you CantStump, and wants to see the project return to you.

all the newbie accounts are posters on a separate and active forum called 4chan.org/biz/

Maybe changing that  scrypt algo may help...try lyra2v2  It will gain gpu support.

Half of the fund is now in my possession here: http://www.vicenet.org:3001/address/TGyL5KXE4FdEUG1UAQ677aSamwCYcihGcn
I am continuing negotiations with Chicken65 tomorrow regarding the rest.
He has unlocked the original thread.


I do not believe CantStump and Chicken65 are the same person. Chicken65 is fully vetted to me. I am fully confident in his true identity.
CantStump is not yet vetted but I have had several voice calls with him. The two have very distinct voices, accents, and personalities.


I do not wish to hold the fund for long. I will forward it to whatever address this community publicly decides to provide me.

Signal7,
     what about the "vote" about if it should be sent to you, then everybody voted Signal7 and he announces it will be sent to escrow tomorrow?  He said you both will send it to escrow tomorrow?  Thank you for the update

I have not read all of the posts so I can only comment on what I know to be my agreement with him and what I fully intend to do.

I will put the coins where the community tells me to.

Let me update you then.




And the unnoffical (?) poll

Also here is the poll about where the fund should go.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10659341/r

plus after he asked the thread if the fund should go to escrow or signal7 or someone else after the thread was unlocked like a bunch of people all said they prefer signal7 get the fund.  Then in his next post he announces he will transfer it to escrow and for me to just accept it.  when I questioned him further.  This was during the time he transfered the 100k to you and you confirmed.  He stated that you both would transfer the 100k each to an escrow guy tomorrow.
     He also states that he does not care which escrow because they are all trusted.  I have read lots of horrow stories about escrow and the one commonality is the owner is crooked.  Many years then one day crook.

    Also I asked him if we will be able to vet the escrow guys
     I asked if we will be able to read the terms and conditions of the escrow contract and he replied that in the crypto world we don't use contracts because it is all trust.
    Then I asked if we don't use contracts in the crypto world then why I am about to go sign a contract with the US government for a super PAC for this group  and why am I about to unmask for the benefit of this group
    And in response he announces he must go to bed.
     Then a few minutes later he posts another teaser about this email he got from the book writer who wants to do a book on his coin.  to prove he is not a liar.

Depredation,
+1

An escrow agent is a bad idea imo.  Who knows the motivations of these different escrow agents.  I've heard horror stories about them too.  If Robert David Steele is really talking to some of you, then you ought to convince him to hold on to the TrumpFund.

I'll do whatever everyone wants me to do. If you want me to stake it until a real plan is drawn, I will. If you want to vote in an escrow, I will release it. It's not mine. It belongs to everyone.

If you all are voting for me to hold it and that happens, the only thing I ask is that it not stop there. Once the fund is secured to me, we have to vote again for its final destination. Please properly secure this damn thing to an elected treasurer before something else happens to it. It can not be flying around unaccountably if it is to be advertised on my servers as part of a decentralized super pac for Donald Frickin Trump.

btw - the current "Trump Fund" address posted on the homepage of the site uploaded to me contains 1 TRUMP. Let that sink in... But how would anyone even know since all the explorers are down? This is unacceptable. The new website is offline. Maintenance ports are closed for now. trumpcoin.com is redirected back to .rocks until I and everyone else knows who owns the private keys to the official address on that page. If posted publicly, it can NOT change.
 
In spite of the org charts posted, it's actually not clear who is in charge of what around here but whoever is actually running this show now needs to stand down and let a proper board be elected. It is way past time to do that. If I am wrong then please correct me.

giving your money over to someone who is contractually obligated to do exactly what you say with it is a bad idea? These people handle millions of dollars daily, but you are afraid to give over 200k of a digital currency currently worth like 8 cent per coin?

The real world just knocked on your door, go open it.

Chicken's team still has accumulated an unknown sum of coins certainly above 1/10th of total amount by creating this crash. If this fund ever became worth a lot of money then there'd be media outlets picking up stories about Trump taking money from scammers. This coin will never succeed after what Chicken did to it. Please whoever is new and reading this post do not be the people who buy when chicken unloads his bags.

What are you talking about?  You have no proof that Chicken unloaded his coins at the top and then intentionally caused the price drop to buy back in.  Imo, Chicken legitimately hates pump groups and when he thought the Alex Jones Show was just a lie to hype the price, he told everyone that the new management CantStump was just a PnD group.  From what I can tell, I don't think either Chicken or CantStump had bad motives, but I'm not privy to all the facts.  I think CantStump jumped the gun and made a hasty announcement about TrumpCoin being on Alex's show.  I think Chicken assumed this was ill-intent, maybe incorrectly, and let his opinion be known causing the price drop.  If the fund goes to an escrow agent, you better be sure he is one based in the US and has a decent track record.

tensai,
     If you know anything about crypto coins since bitcoin started then you also know some of the crypto escrow horror stories.  And chickens65 already responded to me on this topic by saying that "in the crypto world we don't use contracts it is all trust" he was responding to me specifically about the crypto escrow plans he had announced.
     Which is not true the crypto world is all about trustless even I know this.  Also I was accused by Chickens65 a few days ago about not knowing anything about crypto.  I think the comments from us both speak for themselves.

     The crypto escrow guys all have buddies and will be good for a while then one day they go crooked.  Very simple.  I have read too many horror stories to be swayed by your "real world" arguments.  Besides we are waiting to add real value so they may be worth 8 Cents now (correction 3cents now) but that is not a logical argument to not care about a detail due to the relative current value.  And now to find out the crypto escrow guys don't do contracts means it is even less of a good idea than ever before in my opinion.

     Signal7,
     I do not know what to say.  Really,  speechless.  This needs to be worked out I agree.  So far the polls show you as the preferred trump fund holder.  You seem like you are worried about holding it for very long.  I think once you have all the fund in your possession the next steps can be taken.  Right now we cannot afford to get ahead of ourselves.  There are too many things at issue like you pointed out and we are way behind.  I am concerned if it goes to escrow it will never do any good and hamstring super pac efforts.  Why should I worry about a pac if there is no funding or ability to contract with the escrow agent for projects.  

     And no you are not wrong

We must learn to walk before we can run, that is why you must hold the fund until we find someone better.
There is a working explorer: http://www.vicenet.org:3001/
Yes, we need to get things organized here; I'm trying to do my part.

you will never get definite proof of anything because this is crypto. i understand that you want your coins to not lose all their value, but chicken and his team is sitting there with 1/xth of the supply ready to dump on the next pump and trump supporters are the people who will have to pay for it. The case for why it's obvious cantstump and chicken are in the same team and they orchestrated this crash has been put forward multiple times, it's insanely obvious. So obvious that this coin can never reach media outlets that do due dilligence anymore. The coin is dead.

for those reason I will continue doing my best not to let chicken unload his bags on anyone.  Sucks for the people who own this coin right now and are innocent, but you being scammed does not make it right for you to mislead others into buying your bags.

See the problem here is that there is no proof.  Without proof it's just an assumption.  I am not saying that they didn't accumulate coins, but until you can prove it, it remains an assumption.

This project is run by 3 fraudsters


chicken65 + Cantstump + Signal7



Notice after the dump, chicken65 wants to leave the project and hand it over to Signal7



I can assure everybody here, Signal7 is going to run away and not handle things professionally just wait and see


Everybody had faith in Cantstump LOL and look what happened

He ran away and chicken65 turns up as superman saying he won't let anybody tarnish the trump

And now he changes his mind yet again and wants to hand it to his insider buddy Signal7


This is all fishy


Any here is my 2 cents.

This scam is being run by 3 people, chicken65, Cantstump and Signal7


They are in it together


chicken65 = Biggest Scammer Ever (the owner of this scam)


Cantstump = the scammer behind the pump n dump



Signal7 = the tech guy behind the scam



Trumpcoin is going to go down, in the hands of these 3

Wait and see

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Hi,

chicken65 told me that you wanted to deposit another 100k trumpcoins into escrow. If true let me know. Only proceed if you are fine with the risks of holding them on an exchange. You can suggest an alternate exchange too if you wish.

Greetings!
Sebastian


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Hi SebastianJu,

This is not true. I have made no such agreement with anyone.

Chicken65 has actually acted against the wishes of the TrumpCoin community, who wish for all of the coins to be sent to me, including the 100k that he sent to you. The community believes the coins sent to you belong to our project and should not, under any circumstances be stored in an exchange wallet to be managed by a third party, at least not at this time.

This entire situation arose from a disclosure that Chicken65 was mishandling our common funds. He was asked to turn the coins over to me by prominent members of this organization as published by him. He turned over half to me and sent the other half to you and has demanded that I send the other half to you, which I cannot in good faith do in contrast to the wishes of the people that the fund belongs to as per the written statements of the Trumpcoin project.


Please provide to me with the terms of this escrow as agreed upon between yourself and Chicken65 along with the terms that I will be entering into with you so that I may provide this information to the fund owners to decide how I should respond.

Thank you,
Signal7

Should you also start your own thread?

Ugh that has some nasty typos in it

I feel fucking sorry for SebastianWu in all of this.

I'm sure when he agreed to this escrow he thought it'd take up maybe half hour of his time, turns out it might just become his worst nightmare lmao.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1536643

1000x better than the shit chicken writes.

-Delete .rocks off the face of the earth.
-Get .com back up.
-Secure the 200k in rock solid escrow
-Keep chicken and his aliases the fuck away.

That's all we have to do.

Yes get that .com site up that was fucking beautiful ima go for a while brb

I do not get the point of this coin. It has the name of one of the US presidential election candidates, one that is very controversial.

Why keep that coin going at all?

Consider waiting a day or two please. It is possible that this community will decide you are right in which case some of us will join your effort.


I would like to salvage it if at all possible.

A scam coin started by foreigners to exploit our elections for personal gain taken by the American people on the 4th of July and forced into legitimacy.

Doesn't sound like such a horrid backstory to me.

Signal just ignore the fudders for now, whats important is we get everything back in order.

no clue what he's doing

Get Milo Yiannopoulos to hold the campaign fund.

https://twitter.com/Nero

seige if you have shame please leave this thread. don't misguide us.there is no kid here like yu. so go to hell and FUD in other threads.

Seige, please stop. We dont need you to start a twitter just to bash some crypto coin. You need to cool off dude, seriously. You're getting worse than Chicken65.

Enough with the FUD.

The siege account and other accounts trying to divide this community are obviously working against the best interests of Trump and TrumpCoin.  Do not let these people divide our movement.

Signal7 do not send the 100k of the TrumpFund that you have to escrow to be held on CCEX exchange.  Having the TrumpFund held on an exchange is a terrible idea.

I think this coin has no future.

Lmao so seems like chicken65 is friends with parwez now and planning a huge pump and dump behind the scenes

It's obvious chicken65 hasn't showed his face here for a while. Talking with insiders about the pump and how to carry it out again


It's a shame again for buyers. 2nd round for a pump and dump by the people who are inside chicken65's group


If you want to put 100% faith in this coin be my guest.


As I have said, the people out there should know the agenda behind this coin and the scammers behind it


So are there 4 scammers now?


chicken65, Cantstump, Signal7 and Parwez


chicken65 has a lot of explaining to do

I remember litecoin and fantas just saying

Dear Chickens65 (creator of Trumpcoin! and original dev!),

   Your site has been very useful during the hard times that we've had and it has really kept us afloat! But now that we have been making such progress, could you please show your support for Trumpcoin and Trump by please doing a 301 redirect to the new .com website?

     It is in all our best interest for you to do this.  If you like we can tell you how to do this if you do not know how. 

                                                                                  Thank you very much,
                                                                                  Bitbobb July 26, 2016