Title: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 19, 2016, 03:18:51 AM Okay first off VRobb was the winner of last contest 50 usd in btc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538811.msg15471616#msg15471616 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538811.msg15630301#msg15630301 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538811.msg15630787#msg15630787 So a >>>>> New game. PICKS BEGIN AT 1116 When game began about 20 months ago coins were about 200 usd 0.10 btc was about 20 usd. we paid in .10 btc numbers. Our first donator to the game spent over 2.8 coins. I have been the sole payer for the last 4 months and have paid .9 coins so 3.7 coins have been awarded for free, nada, nothing no cost. I am still able to do this due to my signature fee. Which I put into payments here. First rule is I decide all rules since it is a free chance to get some coin. Second rule is you need to be a forum member since April 15th of 2016 Third rule is you need to have made 30 posts. I will read them and decide if you appear to be real. Fourth rule is if I think you are double dipping your picks won't be allowed Fifth rule is we open picks at 1116 and end picks at 716 just about 2.5 days to pick. Sixth rule is this is for fun so I tend to allow off topic and don't delete very much. Seventh rule is your pick should look like -1.2 = philipma1957 or +1.2 = philipma1957 Eight rule is if you pick a used pick I will assign a pick to you and you are stuck with the one I assign. Ninth rule no pick changes Tenth rule no pre picks via pm's Eleven rule no late picks. Anything I missed above feel free to mention. I self mod due to seriouscoin I always pick -1.2 due to seriouscoin https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 213,066,572,865 (-0.20%) Adjust time: After 1988 Blocks, About 13.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,615,967,409 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 9.9 minutes 3 blocks: 29.8 minutes 6 blocks: 59.5 minutes Updated: 23:20 (2.3 minutes ago) current numbers above I notice some graph issues between two websites. bitcoinwisdom seems to have a false spike I need to look into the issue. if we need to change sites for official diff numbers I will https://i.imgur.com/3jmgScv.png Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: alh on July 19, 2016, 07:29:13 AM So, the question in my mind is: How closely will the deployment of the S9's that are for sale match the shutdown of less efficient gear that should fall off the network? The halving must have rendered at least some gear unprofitable to run. The price of BTC doesn't seem to be going anywhere for the moment. This current difficulty period is all at 12.5BTC reward. The only unknown for the next 2 weeks is BTC price, and that appears moderately stable.
I wonder the extent to which Bitmain has been replacing S7's with equivalent hash (i.e. stable hashrate), and not stable power consumption (2-3x hashrate increase). Thanks again for running this, Phil. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! Post by: Cuidler on July 19, 2016, 08:34:52 AM So, the question in my mind is: How closely will the deployment of the S9's that are for sale match the shutdown of less efficient gear that should fall off the network? The halving must have rendered at least some gear unprofitable to run. I wonder the extent to which Bitmain has been replacing S7's with equivalent hash (i.e. stable hashrate), and not stable power consumption (2-3x hashrate increase). If many people really switching off, you should see increased supply of such mining equipment for sale on ebay, mostly S4, S5 and S7 stuff, the older stuff had to mine on free electricity even before the halving I guess. Some might switch off and just wait if price increase, but there should be enought of those who try to sell on ebay instead thus increasing the supply of older mining equipment on market. I dont see any dramatic reduction on ebays prices so far, which increased supply should make. About Bitmain replacing S7s for S9s on its own mining farm, it makes most sence to replace and sell the S7s before you even start selling the S9s. So I guess they run S9s only already and the increased difficulty in last months is the new Bitmain S9s mining farm equealing to their own 3x hashrate increase, while the replaced S7s already sold. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! Post by: philipma1957 on July 19, 2016, 03:40:48 PM So, the question in my mind is: How closely will the deployment of the S9's that are for sale match the shutdown of less efficient gear that should fall off the network? The halving must have rendered at least some gear unprofitable to run. I wonder the extent to which Bitmain has been replacing S7's with equivalent hash (i.e. stable hashrate), and not stable power consumption (2-3x hashrate increase). If many people really switching off, you should see increased supply of such mining equipment for sale on ebay, mostly S4, S5 and S7 stuff, the older stuff had to mine on free electricity even before the halving I guess. Some might switch off and just wait if price increase, but there should be enought of those who try to sell on ebay instead thus increasing the supply of older mining equipment on market. I dont see any dramatic reduction on ebays prices so far, which increased supply should make. About Bitmain replacing S7s for S9s on its own mining farm, it makes most sence to replace and sell the S7s before you even start selling the S9s. So I guess they run S9s only already and the increased difficulty in last months is the new Bitmain S9s mining farm equealing to their own 3x hashrate increase, while the replaced S7s already sold. As I have mentioned graphs right now seem to be wrong: no new info for 9 days http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png the gray line on bitcoinwisdom is not correct. we never did the 1650ph it shows for yesterday So two of three major sites are wrong Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 210,022,326,414 (-1.63%) Adjust time: After 1932 Blocks, About 13.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,563,972,978 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.2 minutes 3 blocks: 30.6 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 11:35 (3.8 minutes ago) https://bitcoinwisdom.com/assets/difficulty/bitcoin-hash_rate.png?1468942505 http://nextdifficulty.com/ https://i.imgur.com/ZC50FSo.png Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: alh on July 20, 2016, 05:16:39 AM It may be that we are starting to see an effect of the halving on difficulty. Both bitcoinwisdom (-1.98%) and nextdifficulty (-2.1%) are showing difficulty decreases. We'll have to see how it actually works over the next 12-13 days, but this might actually be "real".
BTC price still at $673. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: notlist3d on July 20, 2016, 06:27:20 AM It may be that we are starting to see an effect of the halving on difficulty. Both bitcoinwisdom (-1.98%) and nextdifficulty (-2.1%) are showing difficulty decreases. We'll have to see how it actually works over the next 12-13 days, but this might actually be "real". BTC price still at $673. I'm wondering the same if finally some miners are going offline. I thought leading up to halving we would see a lot bigger increase which I was happily wrong on. Really it is pretty pretty slow on dropping off on old gear. I would really like to see drop off how much is home/hobby miners vs big miners. If you think about it a lot of these bigger mines spent a good amount of money upfront for info structure (cooling, wiring, etc). So it would make sense they might re-invest. I am happy with BTC price though it's been pretty steady. No big drop off on value side has been a great thing for those long term holding. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 20, 2016, 01:17:56 PM It may be that we are starting to see an effect of the halving on difficulty. Both bitcoinwisdom (-1.98%) and nextdifficulty (-2.1%) are showing difficulty decreases. We'll have to see how it actually works over the next 12-13 days, but this might actually be "real". BTC price still at $673. I'm wondering the same if finally some miners are going offline. I thought leading up to halving we would see a lot bigger increase which I was happily wrong on. Really it is pretty pretty slow on dropping off on old gear. I would really like to see drop off how much is home/hobby miners vs big miners. If you think about it a lot of these bigger mines spent a good amount of money upfront for info structure (cooling, wiring, etc). So it would make sense they might re-invest. I am happy with BTC price though it's been pretty steady. No big drop off on value side has been a great thing for those long term holding. well +1 % 0% -2% all work for those that purchased s-9's early. remember 1200ph of the network is old gear. 400PH older then s-7 800ph s-7+ avalon 6 400 ph s-9 all approximate but not far off. So you had cheap power 5.646 cents cents and 20ph in s-5's before the ½ ing your farm would be earning 14912 usd a day after the ½ ing your farm would be earning 3.40 usd per day you figure I will mine for a bit as I am not losing so you mine 10 days. and you now decide I will swap out s-5's slowly for s-9's why slowly you are not losing money so why rush. As for why aren't you listing the 20,000 s-5's on ebay simple you are a chinese farm and you don't list on ebay Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: alh on July 20, 2016, 04:55:41 PM Besides, if you want to replace the 20PH with S9 hardware, you'll need to purchase at least 1700 of them. Even with a discount, that will be significant money to send off to Bitmain. I wonder what kind of terms you get if you offer to buy 1700 S9 units from Bitmain?
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: leowonderful on July 20, 2016, 07:50:21 PM Besides, if you want to replace the 20PH with S9 hardware, you'll need to purchase at least 1700 of them. Even with a discount, that will be significant money to send off to Bitmain. I wonder what kind of terms you get if you offer to buy 1700 S9 units from Bitmain? Probably nearly no discount at all. They'll just yawn like it happens every day and offer you 3.1% discount. A substantial amount of the network is used gear, and not all of it will turn off; Most people with S7s and Avalon 6s must have pretty cheap electricity, since difficulty hasn't really moved much at all. Difficulty will almost certainly drop, but we don't know how much at this point. It could go from 1% to 10%, as this is a pretty uncertain point. Even the network hashrate shows this as hashpower has been in flux for a few days now. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 20, 2016, 07:53:06 PM Besides, if you want to replace the 20PH with S9 hardware, you'll need to purchase at least 1700 of them. Even with a discount, that will be significant money to send off to Bitmain. I wonder what kind of terms you get if you offer to buy 1700 S9 units from Bitmain? and lets say this pretend farm does 5 s-9's a week in a week he gains 60th but he can take 50 s-5's off line. losing 57.5 th net hash rate gain = 2.5 th power savings 7000 watts for the near gear adds on but 30,000 watts drops So that is 23 kwatts saved which is 552 kwatts per day and 3864 kwatts saved in a week. that is 220 usd in power savings with a gain in 2.5th hash rate. So this 20ph s-5 farm should simply add 5 s-9s a week for now since price is high. If and when price drops he can speed up his conversion. now that is the s-5 guy with cheap power. if you are 20ph in s-7's with 6 cent power just mine and hold your coins Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! Post by: Mikestang on July 20, 2016, 09:51:19 PM As I have mentioned graphs right now seem to be wrong: the gray line on bitcoinwisdom is not correct. we never did the 1650ph it shows for yesterday So two of three major sites are wrong So it has me wondering, were the "spikes" we were seeing on the bitcoinwisdom graphs for all these adjustments fake spikes? Did the number of solved blocks during those spikes correspond with the rise and fall of network hash rate? I honestly didn't pay that close of attention, but now it brings to question many months of data tracking. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! Post by: philipma1957 on July 20, 2016, 10:05:50 PM As I have mentioned graphs right now seem to be wrong: the gray line on bitcoinwisdom is not correct. we never did the 1650ph it shows for yesterday So two of three major sites are wrong So it has me wondering, were the "spikes" we were seeing on the bitcoinwisdom graphs for all these adjustments fake spikes? Did the number of solved blocks during those spikes correspond with the rise and fall of network hash rate? I honestly didn't pay that close of attention, but now it brings to question many months of data tracking. I checked back at random since nov. all seem good before the ½ing but a lot of graph data after ½ ing is wrong. It is a big undertaking to fully analyze it. But fast checks seem to show issues started after ½ing. I think that all sites have not fully updated their soft ware Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on July 21, 2016, 02:45:40 AM Then Phil please do a real world or real time difficulty %.
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 21, 2016, 02:54:35 AM As a Mets fan I should say no ,but your Yankees are not winning much so here goes.
421642 (Main Chain) 2016-07-21 02:40:53 421344 (Main Chain) 2016-07-18 23:22:42 299 blocks made. 2 days 3 hours 20 min 288 18 2 308 = 0% so 299/308-1 = -2.92% but a long way to go. look below at this trend Difficulty History Date Difficulty Change Hash Rate Jul 18 2016 213,492,501,108 0.04% 1,528,238,850 GH/s Jul 04 2016 213,398,925,331 1.88% 1,527,569,009 GH/s Jun 21 2016 209,453,158,595 6.83% 1,499,324,110 GH/s Jun 08 2016 196,061,423,940 -1.63% 1,403,462,340 GH/s May 24 2016 199,312,067,531 2.60% 1,426,731,353 GH/s May 11 2016 194,254,820,283 8.73% 1,390,530,167 GH/s So May 12 to July 20 1,390,530,167 to 1,483,613,935 in hash rate not so bad Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: VRobb on July 21, 2016, 04:58:43 PM Hey philip I got a quick question: How would the halving interfere with any of the sites hash calculations? If you don't update the block reward then that part will be wrong, sure, but how do they f-up the hash calc? If you know blocks expected, blocks found, and difficulty what's the problem?
smh ??? Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 21, 2016, 05:06:35 PM Hey philip I got a quick question: How would the halving interfere with any of the sites hash calculations? If you don't update the block reward than that part will be wrong, sure, but how do they f-up the hash calc? If you know blocks expected, blocks found, and difficulty what's the problem? smh ??? I am not sure and I don't want to put on a tinfoil hat, but it is the spec thread so how about it is deliberate to deceive newer investors? Now that is the true tinfoil hat/ conspiracy spec. Not saying that. this is still out of date http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png so it can not be checked against here. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/assets/difficulty/bitcoin-hash_rate.png?1469120420 this one below seems to be the best graph https://i.imgur.com/xhVLl1A.png Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: d57heinz on July 21, 2016, 05:17:12 PM As a Mets fan I should say no ,but your Yankees are not winning much so here goes. ........ hehe. finally got a series win on ya from the cubs:) tough team on us last few series. got a quick question. s7 what is good freq to go with .. its nasty today and next couple days here.. heat index of 110f. humidity if off the charts. im already pushing 70 c only on the center board and outer boards are a couple c less. running at 700mhz but from my tests at home it seems 600 would quit hashing after a while. Also same with 625. what is min i should go with and not have issues? Thanks on the diff.. looks like we seeing a drop.. hope thats not a precursor to the price;/. i was hoping to see a nice upswing but seems to be struggling.. eth is just blowing my mind how well its holding and rising.. coinbase just added it to the coinbase.com side.https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/07/21/coinbase-adds-support-for-ethereum/ (https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/07/21/coinbase-adds-support-for-ethereum/). Makes it easier on me.. although ive had a very pleasant experience with kraken. Nice to be verified at both anyway. edit> on the drop i see it aswell on the zeroblock app for iphone.. they used to have a website but its no longer.. only for android iphone now.> good feed for news too yesterday it was showing about 12 min avg block times.. today its showing 10 min.. i do believe its based of last 24 hours but im not 100% on that Best Regards d57heinz Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: Mikestang on July 21, 2016, 05:24:36 PM Hey philip I got a quick question: How would the halving interfere with any of the sites hash calculations? Do we know how these sites calculate (estimate would be a more accurate word) network hash rate? If we know their method we might be able to figure out why.Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 21, 2016, 06:00:29 PM As a Mets fan I should say no ,but your Yankees are not winning much so here goes. ........ hehe. finally got a series win on ya from the cubs:) tough team on us last few series. got a quick question. s7 what is good freq to go with .. its nasty today and next couple days here.. heat index of 110f. humidity if off the charts. im already pushing 70 c only on the center board and outer boards are a couple c less. running at 700mhz but from my tests at home it seems 600 would quit hashing after a while. Also same with 625. what is min i should go with and not have issues? Thanks on the diff.. looks like we seeing a drop.. hope thats not a precursor to the price;/. i was hoping to see a nice upswing but seems to be struggling.. eth is just blowing my mind how well its holding and rising.. coinbase just added it to the coinbase.com side.https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/07/21/coinbase-adds-support-for-ethereum/ (https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/07/21/coinbase-adds-support-for-ethereum/). Makes it easier on me.. although ive had a very pleasant experience with kraken. Nice to be verified at both anyway. edit> on the drop i see it aswell on the zeroblock app for iphone.. they used to have a website but its no longer.. only for android iphone now.> good feed for news too yesterday it was showing about 12 min avg block times.. today its showing 10 min.. i do believe its based of last 24 hours but im not 100% on that Best Regards d57heinz As for diff calcs yeah I have found a few inconsistencies here and there before the ½ ing but nothing major. @ Mikestang you have a good question as when I do real world real time numbers they are always close but don't quite match the sites. And I know I am consistent and my real time method is accurate. pretty simple 144 blocks per day is 0% so take the time expired from the diff to the current time. Example say 3 days so 3 x 144 = 432 so 420 made 432 = 0% 420/432-1 = 0.972222 -1 = -0.0277777 x 100 to convert to percent = -2.77777 % so if last diff was Jul 18 2016 213,492,501,108 0.04% 1,528,238,850 GH/s just x the numbers above to get an answer . so current diff would drop to 207,562,153,854 current hash would drop to 1,485,787,431 but those real time numbers I just gave are true from the start to the 3rd day I know bitcoinwisdom shows 3 hashrates : 504 blocks gray line which was wrong 1008 blocks blue line which looked okay 2016 blocks red line which is accurate since the blue and gray change a lot they are at multiple points in time and the chart does not show those times. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: d57heinz on July 21, 2016, 06:28:13 PM As a Mets fan I should say no ,but your Yankees are not winning much so here goes. ........ hehe. finally got a series win on ya from the cubs:) tough team on us last few series. got a quick question. s7 what is good freq to go with .. its nasty today and next couple days here.. heat index of 110f. humidity if off the charts. im already pushing 70 c only on the center board and outer boards are a couple c less. running at 700mhz but from my tests at home it seems 600 would quit hashing after a while. Also same with 625. what is min i should go with and not have issues? Thanks on the diff.. looks like we seeing a drop.. hope thats not a precursor to the price;/. i was hoping to see a nice upswing but seems to be struggling.. eth is just blowing my mind how well its holding and rising.. coinbase just added it to the coinbase.com side.https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/07/21/coinbase-adds-support-for-ethereum/ (https://blog.coinbase.com/2016/07/21/coinbase-adds-support-for-ethereum/). Makes it easier on me.. although ive had a very pleasant experience with kraken. Nice to be verified at both anyway. edit> on the drop i see it aswell on the zeroblock app for iphone.. they used to have a website but its no longer.. only for android iphone now.> good feed for news too yesterday it was showing about 12 min avg block times.. today its showing 10 min.. i do believe its based of last 24 hours but im not 100% on that Best Regards d57heinz As for diff calcs yeah I have found a few inconsistencies here and there before the ½ ing but nothing major. @ Mikestang you have a good question as when I do real world real time numbers they are always close but don't quite match the sites. And I know I am consistent and my real time method is accurate. pretty simple 144 blocks per day is 0% so take the time expired from the diff to the current time. Example say 3 days so 3 x 144 = 432 so 420 made 432 = 0% 420/432-1 = 0.972222 -1 = -0.0277777 x 100 to convert to percent = -2.77777 % so if last diff was Jul 18 2016 213,492,501,108 0.04% 1,528,238,850 GH/s just x the numbers above to get an answer . so current diff would drop to 207,562,153,854 current hash would drop to 1,485,787,431 but those real time numbers I just gave are true from the start to the 3rd day I know bitcoinwisdom shows 3 hashrates : 504 blocks gray line which was wrong 1008 blocks blue line which looked okay 2016 blocks red line which is accurate since the blue and gray change a lot they are at multiple points in time and the chart does not show those times. thanks so much.. will give the 650 a shot till the weather breaks. Finally got my s9's today.. 54.88$ for customs fees. Which i expected> just glad they made it.:) best Regards d57heinz Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 23, 2016, 08:04:09 AM https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 209,154,251,109 (-2.03%) Adjust time:After 1430 Blocks, About 10.1 days <<<<<< PICKS BEGIN AT 1116 Hashrate(?): 1,444,050,334 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.2 minutes 3 blocks: 30.5 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 4:0 (2.1 minutes ago) This has been a very slow adjustment period. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 23, 2016, 10:25:16 PM https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 209,154,251,109 (-2.03%) Adjust time:After 1430 Blocks, About 10.1 days <<<<<< PICKS BEGIN AT 1116 Hashrate(?): 1,444,050,334 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.2 minutes 3 blocks: 30.5 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 4:0 (2.1 minutes ago) This has been a very slow adjustment period. more of the same slow and down beat. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 206,830,903,631 (-3.12%) Adjust time: After 1354 Blocks, About 9.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,408,927,308 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.3 minutes 3 blocks: 31.1 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: alh on July 24, 2016, 12:04:34 AM Looks like you are right. The electric bills have arrived, and numerous machines have been turned off. The nextdifficulty site is projecting a -4% adjustment, with a possibility of -8%. Nothing particularly exciting on the BTC price front at $655/BTC.
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: mwizard on July 24, 2016, 02:28:14 AM There may be a short term small drop over the next few weeks as any high electricity cost systems turn off.
But over the next 12 months I would expect to see a large increase in difficulty. The hash rate should double or triple over the next year as the S9s and similar 14/16 nm systems come on line. The S9 currently has a variable cost break even of 30 cents per kWh. They would still be profitable to run for large miners even if the network hash rate was 4 times higher. Over the long term electricity cost and Bitcoin value are the two factors driving the hash rate. They determine when miners are turned off. Anyone paying under say 5 cents per kWh can expect their S9 to have a very long life. So expect a small fall in hash rate now, and a climbing hash rate over the next few months even if the Bitcoin value stays unchanged. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 24, 2016, 04:06:29 AM https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 209,154,251,109 (-2.03%) Adjust time:After 1430 Blocks, About 10.1 days <<<<<< PICKS BEGIN AT 1116 Hashrate(?): 1,444,050,334 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.2 minutes 3 blocks: 30.5 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 4:0 (2.1 minutes ago) This has been a very slow adjustment period. more of the same slow and down beat. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 206,830,903,631 (-3.12%) Adjust time: After 1354 Blocks, About 9.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,408,927,308 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.3 minutes 3 blocks: 31.1 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 205,231,862,280 (-3.87%) Adjust time: After 1327 Blocks, About 9.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,382,169,496 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.5 minutes 3 blocks: 31.4 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: Still slowing down. Difficulty History Date Difficulty Change Hash Rate Jul 18 2016 213,492,501,108 0.04% 1,528,238,850 GH/s Jul 04 2016 213,398,925,331 1.88% 1,527,569,009 GH/s Jun 21 2016 209,453,158,595 6.83% 1,499,324,110 GH/s Jun 08 2016 196,061,423,940 -1.63% 1,403,462,340 GH/s May 24 2016 199,312,067,531 2.60% 1,426,731,353 GH/s May 11 2016 194,254,820,283 8.73% 1,390,530,167 GH/s If you look at May 12 to Aug 15th which is ninety two days Diff will be very good. We may hit the aug 2 with a diff at 200 and that would stay until about aug 15th. a 92 day stretch of 1% diff jumps. maybe Another reason for drop is USA is smoking hot temps in most of the usa. so some down clocks are happening. I would love to see btc drop to 500-565 price. This would really cause a strong drop in hash rate. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on July 24, 2016, 01:53:56 PM Phil I see we keep going lower on bitcoinwisdom.
Are we going to go under 200 Diff? Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 204,394,973,862 (-4.26%) Adjust time: After 1275 Blocks, About 9.3 days https://bitcoinwisdom.com/assets/difficulty/bitcoin-hash_rate.png?1469367909 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 24, 2016, 07:30:54 PM Some fast numbers:
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 204,273,155,599 (-4.32%) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< new diff to be 204... Adjust time: After 1239 Blocks, About 9.1 days >> picks will start at 1116 Hashrate(?): 1,382,033,094 GH/s http://nextdifficulty.com/ NEXT BITCOIN DIFFICULTY CHANGE Current Hashrate: 1449804 TH/s* - Current price $ 654.89 Conservative: -4.8% -5.7% Continous: -8.4 % Next Difficulty Value:201281440354 <<<<<<<<<<<<< new diff to be 201 Blocks to solve in this difficulty: 1247 https://bitcoincharts.com/ Blocks 422121 Total BTC 15.777M Difficulty 213492501108 Estimated 206563080941 in 1239 blks <<<<<<<<<<<<<new diff to be 206 Network total 1375352.598 Thash/s Blocks/hour 5.40 / 667 s <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 5.40 should be 6.00 this is down 10% all of the above are most likely reflecting the turning off of .5 watt efficient or worse gear and of course summer heat as most hashrate is north of the Equator. I am hoping for this to continue for this jump and all of August. I would love to hit Sept at a diff of 185 to 190. After that it will be upwards. 422123 (Main Chain) 2016-07-24 19:31:55 421344 (Main Chain) 2016-07-18 23:22:42 779 blocks in 5 days 20 hours 10 min 841 would be 0% 779/841-1 = -7.3721% real time. while -7.3721% seems good it is early. but if we do that we will get under a diff of 200 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: alh on July 24, 2016, 07:51:20 PM We have to get a drop slightly more negative than -6% to get below 200 difficulty. Summer heat has definitely played into my plans for hashing until September, possibly longer.
Looks to me like Bitmain can ride this wave for a while longer and hold the price on S9. Just my guess. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: topiOleg on July 24, 2016, 09:17:16 PM http://nextdifficulty.com/ NEXT BITCOIN DIFFICULTY CHANGE Current Hashrate: 1449804 TH/s* - Current price $ 654.89 Conservative: -4.8% -5.7% Continous: -8.4 % Next Difficulty Value:201281440354 <<<<<<<<<<<<< new diff to be 201 Blocks to solve in this difficulty: 1247 422123 (Main Chain) 2016-07-24 19:31:55 421344 (Main Chain) 2016-07-18 23:22:42 779 blocks in 5 days 20 hours 10 min 841 would be 0% 779/841-1 = -7.3721% real time. Im surprised none of the nextdifficulty.com numbers match the real time one. And its the simplest method how to predict difficulty so I dunno why they dont use it (actually you need some blocks found to even compute it, but after first day, the real time prediction is usefull). Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 25, 2016, 12:32:38 AM We have to get a drop slightly more negative than -6% to get below 200 difficulty. Summer heat has definitely played into my plans for hashing until September, possibly longer. Looks to me like Bitmain can ride this wave for a while longer and hold the price on S9. Just my guess. Bitmaintech should raise the price a hair but offer a coupon for later use. So next batch comes out say Aug 1 at 1999 plus shipping but a 300 usd coupon for sept 1 or later. Logic would be no one is selling anything and if Avalon does drop a miner in very late August or early sept that 300 dollar coupon off another s-9 would be a good way to hurt avalon. But frankly avalon always stays back a bit away from fighting or competing with bitmaintech. Well right now we are really low http://nextdifficulty.com Conservative: -5% -5.9% Continous: -8.6 % Next Difficulty Value:200824047042 https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Estimated Next Difficulty: 203,100,322,696 (-4.87%) https://bitcoincharts.com 206554900317 -3.2% https://mining-profit.com 198548026029 -7% Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: skuser on July 25, 2016, 06:31:14 AM Im surprised none of the nextdifficulty.com numbers match the real time one. And its the simplest method how to predict difficulty so I dunno why they dont use it (actually you need some blocks found to even compute it, but after first day, the real time prediction is usefull). Actually the leftmost conservative number is 'realtime' based on last 1500 blocks mined (regardless of to which diff period they belong to) so it tries to grab some recent trend. I saw no reason adding shorter term calulations because they just add confusion to people who don't understand variance and other statistical stuff behind difficulty. After block 1500 it becomes the realtime diff estimate as you would call it because it starts to include all mined blocks in current difficulty ;) Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: in2tactics on July 25, 2016, 12:10:05 PM Im surprised none of the nextdifficulty.com numbers match the real time one. And its the simplest method how to predict difficulty so I dunno why they dont use it (actually you need some blocks found to even compute it, but after first day, the real time prediction is usefull). Actually the leftmost conservative number is 'realtime' based on last 1500 blocks mined (regardless of to which diff period they belong to) so it tries to grab some recent trend. I saw no reason adding shorter term calulations because they just add confusion to people who don't understand variance and other statistical stuff behind difficulty. After block 1500 it becomes the realtime diff estimate as you would call it because it starts to include all mined blocks in current difficulty ;) Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 25, 2016, 01:03:06 PM Im surprised none of the nextdifficulty.com numbers match the real time one. And its the simplest method how to predict difficulty so I dunno why they dont use it (actually you need some blocks found to even compute it, but after first day, the real time prediction is usefull). Actually the leftmost conservative number is 'realtime' based on last 1500 blocks mined (regardless of to which diff period they belong to) so it tries to grab some recent trend. I saw no reason adding shorter term calulations because they just add confusion to people who don't understand variance and other statistical stuff behind difficulty. After block 1500 it becomes the realtime diff estimate as you would call it because it starts to include all mined blocks in current difficulty ;) So nextdifficulty.com is your site? Seems nice I need to look at it more. We are 1146 blocks to go we start picks at: 1116 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: VRobb on July 25, 2016, 05:23:19 PM Looks like it's game on:
Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 202,826,305,189 (-5.00%) Adjust time: After 1115 Blocks, About 8.2 days Hashrate(?): 1,370,532,443 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.6 minutes 3 blocks: 31.9 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: 10:20 (1.5 minutes ago) Let's get a nice drop in diff this round! VRobb = -6.5 Good luck all, and once again big ups to philip for giving us stat junkies a fun time! Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: gt_addict on July 25, 2016, 05:28:26 PM gt_addict = -4.7
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: wpt1wpt1 on July 25, 2016, 05:28:51 PM wpt1wpt1 = -5.8
please Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: GreatNorthData on July 25, 2016, 06:02:57 PM GreatNorthData = -3%
Please and thank you! Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 25, 2016, 06:10:23 PM My pick is -1.2 and as usual if I win I will roll it over.
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: Goms on July 25, 2016, 06:31:54 PM My pick is -1.5 ;D
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: Mikestang on July 25, 2016, 07:07:17 PM Wow, I was out of town away from a computer all weekend and look at that drop off! Definitely gear being shut off around the globe. Whether it's temporary because of summer heat and electricity bills, or a sign of things to come I'm not complaining. Let's go big! Big negative. ;D
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 25, 2016, 07:25:38 PM picks are open VRobb = -6.5 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 gt_addict = -4.7 GreatNorthData = -3.0 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: NeuroticFish on July 25, 2016, 07:50:38 PM NeuroticFish = -4.1
Thank you Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 25, 2016, 07:56:54 PM picks are open
VRobb = -6.5 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 gt_addict = -4.7 NeuroticFish = -4.1 GreatNorthData = -3.0 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: cpfreeplz on July 25, 2016, 08:09:40 PM Ah I was pretty close last time. The problem is now I'm thinking there will be a bigger dip. More people will realize that they no longer have ROI a they'll shut off their miners.
cpfreeplz = -8.3 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: lolxxxx on July 25, 2016, 08:13:47 PM lolxxxx = -2.5
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: tntdgcr on July 25, 2016, 08:18:12 PM tntdgcr = -9.4
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 25, 2016, 08:20:23 PM picks are open
tntdgcr = -9.4 cpfreeplz = -8.3 VRobb = -6.5 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 gt_addict = -4.7 NeuroticFish = -4.1 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: in2tactics on July 25, 2016, 08:25:46 PM in2tactics = -7.5
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 25, 2016, 08:32:19 PM picks are open tntdgcr = -9.4 cpfreeplz = -8.3 in2tactics = -7.5 VRobb = -6.5 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 gt_addict = -4.7 NeuroticFish = -4.1 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: Jebuswalks22 on July 25, 2016, 08:38:12 PM Jebuswalks22 -3.6
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: vg54dett on July 25, 2016, 09:04:44 PM vg54dett = -5.6
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: petahashminer on July 25, 2016, 09:30:22 PM petahashminer = -3.9
good luck all Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: traxor on July 25, 2016, 09:50:10 PM If it's alright -- I will play...
traxor = -9.6 Yeah -- I'm OPTIMISTIC!!! ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: ATguy on July 25, 2016, 10:56:11 PM -6.0 = ATguy
ATguy = -6.0 Not sure why everybody uses name = prediction format when it was required to use prediction = name format before, and its also in the rules. Anyway I used both formats. Up to date bitcoinwisdom prediction is Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 201,261,265,467 (-5.73%) Adjust time: After 1093 Blocks, About 8.2 days Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: VRobb on July 25, 2016, 11:15:18 PM Ach, that would be my fault. Everyone seems to be following my pick which was done in reverse. Just like the old HP calculators, eh?
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: vapourminer on July 26, 2016, 12:20:51 AM -5.5 = vapourminer
seems fitting as my favorite number in the world is +5.5 i should change it as little as possible Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 12:25:21 AM picks are open traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 cpfreeplz = -8.3 in2tactics = -7.5 VRobb = -6.5 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 gt_addict = -4.7 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 -6.0 = ATguy ATguy = -6.0 Not sure why everybody uses name = prediction format when it was required to use prediction = name format before, and its also in the rules. Anyway I used both formats. Up to date bitcoinwisdom prediction is Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 201,261,265,467 (-5.73%) Adjust time: After 1093 Blocks, About 8.2 days Yes I was busy and four or five entires were in following VRobb which is flip flopped I thought I could try to go back to standard method but decided it is the first full new diff after the ½ ing and nubmers are really low. lets go wit the flip flop. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: traxor on July 26, 2016, 12:27:11 AM Thanks Phillip...
My first time playing -- but I Gotz to follow the rules... Promise I'll do it better next time... ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: edonkey on July 26, 2016, 12:31:45 AM edonkey = -9.0
I'm out of town so I can't ask the cats. So I asked my wife. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: leowonderful on July 26, 2016, 12:40:07 AM leowonderful=-7. 9
Actually made a diff thread about this, if we're lucky we may even get -10%, which'll be quite a sight... LOL! Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: blindminer on July 26, 2016, 01:01:40 AM blindminer = -7.1
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: ZedZedNova on July 26, 2016, 01:09:31 AM Mr. Phil,
ZedZedNova = -9.9 Thank you sir. Cheers, - zed Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: generalt on July 26, 2016, 02:27:42 AM -6.8 = generalt
Thanks again for running this Phil. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 02:38:31 AM picks are open ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 cpfreeplz = -8.3 leowonderful =-7.9 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 VRobb = -6.5 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 gt_addict = -4.7 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 @ general . you are welcome but don't forget I use my signature money to fund this and I was not the first funder he gave over 2.5 coins not sure what we gave away here but over 2000usd for sure. at no cost to anyone. My signature money is two days past due. So here is to hoping I get it. As I want to keep this up until the fall. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: Erumara on July 26, 2016, 02:53:49 AM -8.2 = Erumara
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: HerbPean on July 26, 2016, 03:42:22 AM HerbDean = -4.2
Thanks ! Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: slastar on July 26, 2016, 06:12:49 AM slastar = -8.0
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: veves1 on July 26, 2016, 06:33:15 AM Veves1 = -5.5
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: NeuroticFish on July 26, 2016, 09:05:23 AM @ general . you are welcome but don't forget I use my signature money to fund this and I was not the first funder he gave over 2.5 coins not sure what we gave away here but over 2000usd for sure. at no cost to anyone. My signature money is two days past due. So here is to hoping I get it. As I want to keep this up until the fall. From what I've read they are checking now the logs and the payments and anything missing will be fixed in a matter of days. If you've missed it, please check this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877765.msg15686854#msg15686854 And maybe a PM to Bitcoin_BOy$ will hurry up the things. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: adaseb on July 26, 2016, 09:41:02 AM 0.0 = adaseb
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: dukeneptun on July 26, 2016, 09:51:27 AM dukeneptun = -6.3
After halving hashrate is declining, next difficulty will be negative. Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 199,792,437,084 (-6.42%) Adjust time: After 1036 Blocks, About 7.8 days Hashrate(?): 1,346,571,877 GH/s Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: vapourminer on July 26, 2016, 11:19:30 AM Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: vapourminer on July 26, 2016, 11:20:58 AM -5.5 = vapourminer seems fitting as my favorite number in the world is +5.5 i should change it as little as possible i did but phil may of missed it? phil, what say you? Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 12:30:30 PM picks are open ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. As I am now near 6 weeks for my kitchen reno. due to a missing cabinet. My wife is freaking out a bit and real world but first real world issues are clouding my accuracy. @ NeuroticFish thanks for link. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: vapourminer on July 26, 2016, 12:38:50 PM As I am now near 6 weeks for my kitchen reno. due to a missing cabinet. My wife is freaking out a bit and real world but first real world issues are clouding my accuracy. aint renovation grand? I was refinishing our kitchen cabinets a few years back and of course due to my own stupidity I ran a square foot short of some walnut vernier. so trim, crown, some other stuff all on hold for a week to have some shipped. cats = mildly unhappy. me = more unhappy. wife = most unhappy :( Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open ! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 01:45:08 PM As I am now near 6 weeks for my kitchen reno. due to a missing cabinet. My wife is freaking out a bit and real world but first real world issues are clouding my accuracy. aint renovation grand? I was refinishing our kitchen cabinets a few years back and of course due to my own stupidity I ran a square foot short of some walnut vernier. so trim, crown, some other stuff all on hold for a week to have some shipped. cats = mildly unhappy. me = more unhappy. wife = most unhappy :( Yeah looks really good but the last little bit is killing me. look at windows on left not done yet Should be done today https://i.imgur.com/whNFS4A.jpg panel under sink was damaged and cabinet just right of window missing the cabinet should come today https://i.imgur.com/vrwKsqh.jpg crown moulding is waiting for the missing cabinet. look at ceiling two lights were moved worked on today trim for dishwasher was missing waiting for it comes today the faucet handle hits the granite backsplash so it needs to be twisted say from 9 oclock -- 6 oclock to 9:20 - 3:20 some plugs and plate to be installed Plumber/electrical guy comes this week lastly waiting for fridge to be moved from garage https://i.imgur.com/nKxLPYf.jpg Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: merelcoin on July 26, 2016, 01:48:12 PM -4.8 = merelcoin
btw: congrats on the kitchen renovation, it looks great already :) I've been renovating for close to 10 years now, it's allways the last details that take the most time and effort Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 01:52:24 PM -4.8 = merelcoin btw: congrats on the kitchen renovation, it looks great already :) I've been renovating for close to 10 years now, it's allways the last details that take the most time and effort thanks this will be the first really nice kitchen I ever had to call my own. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on July 26, 2016, 01:55:04 PM Does that range have 5 burners with a grill as the fifth burner.
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 01:57:23 PM Does that range have 5 burners with a grill as the fifth burner. It does but the center burner is shaped like a racetrack oval. you can keep the standard top or put on a grill for burgers that flips to a flat side for pancakes picks are open ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. As I am now near 6 weeks for my kitchen reno. due to a missing cabinet. My wife is freaking out a bit and real world but first real world issues are clouding my accuracy. @ NeuroticFish thanks for link. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: lindin99 on July 26, 2016, 02:19:20 PM Lindin99 = -11.1
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: ingiltere on July 26, 2016, 02:38:54 PM ingiltere = -6.6
Price was stable around 666$ satan so why not it make -6.66 mining difficulty? My theory for next diff change. :) Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 03:19:57 PM picks are open Lindin99 = -11.1 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. As I am now near 6 weeks for my kitchen reno. due to a missing cabinet. My wife is freaking out a bit and real world but first real world issues are clouding my accuracy. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: albertamining on July 26, 2016, 04:41:36 PM albertamining = -4.9 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: networkgeek24 on July 26, 2016, 06:22:45 PM -8.5 for me
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 07:09:29 PM Picks are open
Lindin99 = -11.1 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: HerbPean on July 26, 2016, 07:17:50 PM Herb Thanks ! thanks Phil for correcting my typo ! You're the best ;-) Great Kitchen ! Well done !! :D Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: Mikestang on July 26, 2016, 07:33:34 PM -8.5 for me Please revise your guess into the proper format for Phil's ease of use.Wow look at that diff drop! Go go go go down down down, just don't let the price follow please. Mikestang = -7.7 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 26, 2016, 10:02:23 PM ]
Picks are open Lindin99 = -11.1 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Mikestang = -7.7 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. @ HerbPean work done on kitchen has been pretty good quality,but the waiting for the missing cabinet really slowed things up. difficulty has really dropped I wonder if a farm was taken out in China due to these floods? http://nanonews.org/almost-300-dead-or-missing-from-china-flooding/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-suspends-4-local-officials-deadly-floods-090520566.html?nhp=1 http://www.seattlepi.com/news/world/article/At-least-75-dead-missing-in-recent-China-flooding-8399947.php http://floodlist.com/asia/china-floods-northern-provinces-july-2016 If flooding hammered BTC farms and or basic building spots we could have a long long long long long delay on s-9's When western digital hdds flooded it set back the entire world in hdd sales. If bitmaintech lost a building with s-9s' and a farm filled with s-9s' it would set the hash rate back a lot and cause a true shortage of s-9s' This is a great opportunity for bitmaintech to announce a delay in the s-9 being built. Then hold the gear another week and sell at a higher price. leak a few rumors about a limit to builds. Only some stock on hand yada yada yada. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: -droid- on July 27, 2016, 12:04:44 AM -droid- -7.6
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: Cuidler on July 27, 2016, 12:10:48 AM Cuidler = -8.1
The floods affecting big mining farms is nice speculation. I think we would see in Bitcoin based news some story pretty soon how some mining farm was flooded and mining equipment worth million of yuans lost. Pretty small chance though, the China is big country and floods tend to be only localized events. Many mining farms uses cheap hydro power electricity in China though, so they need to be located near rivers - so there is some possibility. Last day hashpower pretty stable around difficulty 190,000,000,000, lets see if it stays there for few more days, then we could see some two digit difficulty change - which I dont expect. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 27, 2016, 02:04:29 AM Picks are open Lindin99 = -11.1 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 ATguy = -6.0 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. @ HerbPean work done on kitchen has been pretty good quality,but the waiting for the missing cabinet really slowed things up. difficulty has really dropped I wonder if a farm was taken out in China due to these floods? http://nanonews.org/almost-300-dead-or-missing-from-china-flooding/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-suspends-4-local-officials-deadly-floods-090520566.html?nhp=1 http://www.seattlepi.com/news/world/article/At-least-75-dead-missing-in-recent-China-flooding-8399947.php http://floodlist.com/asia/china-floods-northern-provinces-july-2016 If flooding hammered BTC farms and or basic building spots we could have a long long long long long delay on s-9's When western digital hdds flooded it set back the entire world in hdd sales. If bitmaintech lost a building with s-9s' and a farm filled with s-9s' it would set the hash rate back a lot and cause a true shortage of s-9s' This is a great opportunity for bitmaintech to announce a delay in the s-9 being built. Then hold the gear another week and sell at a higher price. leak a few rumors about a limit to builds. Only some stock on hand yada yada yada. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: notlist3d on July 27, 2016, 03:49:07 AM Notlist3d = -7.8
Dang... interesting reading this after getting home from a conference. I had been keeping up with price but had not been watching difficulty. Happy to see a negative most likely. I wonder if some gear is finally coming offline. I keep thinking it will happen... but seems slow. Either way it's a win if we can keep BTC price stable and get a negative. I would consider that a good difficulty period for sure. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: alh on July 27, 2016, 05:18:30 AM Not going to wait until the last minute, though I have no idea where this is going to go.
alh = -8.9 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: DanielRo on July 27, 2016, 07:45:21 AM DanielRo = -5.9
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: testerman on July 27, 2016, 09:53:56 AM testerman = -5.7
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: Psi on July 27, 2016, 10:28:51 AM congrats to VRobb on win last round !
Psi = -6.2 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: pusttiu on July 27, 2016, 10:35:07 AM +1.0 = pusttiu
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 27, 2016, 11:22:03 AM Picks are open Lindin99 = -11.1 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 alh = -8.9 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Notlist3d = -7.8 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 +1.0 = pusttiu @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. @ HerbPean work done on kitchen has been pretty good quality,but the waiting for the missing cabinet really slowed things up. difficulty has really dropped I wonder if a farm was taken out in China due to these floods? http://nanonews.org/almost-300-dead-or-missing-from-china-flooding/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-suspends-4-local-officials-deadly-floods-090520566.html?nhp=1 http://www.seattlepi.com/news/world/article/At-least-75-dead-missing-in-recent-China-flooding-8399947.php http://floodlist.com/asia/china-floods-northern-provinces-july-2016 If flooding hammered BTC farms and or basic building spots we could have a long long long long long delay on s-9's When western digital hdds flooded it set back the entire world in hdd sales. If bitmaintech lost a building with s-9s' and a farm filled with s-9s' it would set the hash rate back a lot and cause a true shortage of s-9s' This is a great opportunity for bitmaintech to announce a delay in the s-9 being built. Then hold the gear another week and sell at a higher price. leak a few rumors about a limit to builds. Only some stock on hand yada yada yada. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 198,198,106,270 (-7.16%) Adjust time: After 899 Blocks, About 6.8 days Hashrate(?): 1,368,600,475 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.9 minutes 3 blocks: 32.8 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: 7:15 (5.6 minutes ago) http://nextdifficulty.com/ NEXT BITCOIN DIFFICULTY CHANGE Current Hashrate: 1400746 TH/s* - Current price $ 644.801 Conservative: -8.4% -9.6% Continous: -13 % Next Difficulty Value:193079897130 Change will happen on appr. August 3, 2016, 6:26 am Blocks to solve in this difficulty: 901 Bitcoin block reward halving date: July 10, 2016, 8:38 am or -17 days Last updated July 27, 2016, 11:06 am GMT, last block: 422459 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: HerbPean on July 27, 2016, 02:55:58 PM My gut feeling is telling me we are going to see a massive spike back soon ... I hope i'm wrong :D
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are yet to start! prize = $50 usd Post by: Xircom on July 27, 2016, 03:57:06 PM Besides, if you want to replace the 20PH with S9 hardware, you'll need to purchase at least 1700 of them. Even with a discount, that will be significant money to send off to Bitmain. I wonder what kind of terms you get if you offer to buy 1700 S9 units from Bitmain? and lets say this pretend farm does 5 s-9's a week in a week he gains 60th but he can take 50 s-5's off line. losing 57.5 th net hash rate gain = 2.5 th power savings 7000 watts for the near gear adds on but 30,000 watts drops So that is 23 kwatts saved which is 552 kwatts per day and 3864 kwatts saved in a week. that is 220 usd in power savings with a gain in 2.5th hash rate. So this 20ph s-5 farm should simply add 5 s-9s a week for now since price is high. If and when price drops he can speed up his conversion. now that is the s-5 guy with cheap power. if you are 20ph in s-7's with 6 cent power just mine and hold your coins You got it spot on. That's why I actual invested in further S7`s after halving. With a power price below 0.06$ the S7 is still a solid investment if the BTC price keeps steady or rise. I think the last will happen when supply dries out. The latest drop in Hashrate I expect to be power hungry units like S4`s, Tubes and other chinese miners. S5`s will stil be mining if the power prices is below 0.02$ and thats possible not only in china. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: VRobb on July 27, 2016, 10:04:26 PM congrats to VRobb on win last round ! Thanks, just blind-ass luck! Loving the drop in diff that's sure to come, we'll see just how far it goes...! ;DPsi = -6.2 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: topiOleg on July 27, 2016, 11:18:36 PM topiOleg = -8.8
If the bitcoinwisdom gray graph line for hash rate of the last 504 blocks is fixed (it was wrong one week ago), then the hash rate drop stopped already. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 197,050,611,206 (-7.70%) Adjust time: After 834 Blocks, About 6.4 days Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2016, 01:10:49 AM Picks are open Lindin99 = -11.1 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 alh = -8.9 topiOleg = -8.8 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Notlist3d = -7.8 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 +1.0 = pusttiu @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2016, 01:21:07 AM ]
Picks are open Lindin99 = -11.1 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 alh = -8.9 topiOleg = -8.8 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Notlist3d = -7.8 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 +1.0 = pusttiu @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. http://nextdifficulty.com/ NEXT BITCOIN DIFFICULTY CHANGE Current Hashrate: 1384166 TH/s* - Current price $ 647 Conservative: -9.4% -10.7% Continous: -14.5 % Next Difficulty Value:190711014395 Change will happen on appr. August 3, 2016, 7:40 am Blocks to solve in this difficulty: 822 https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 196,757,959,964 (-7.84%) Adjust time: After 821 Blocks, About 6.3 days picks end at 716 Hashrate(?): 1,384,115,117 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 11.1 minutes this would be -11% 3 blocks: 33.2 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: 21:10 (3.0 minutes ago we made 1195 blocks so far 422539 (Main Chain) 2016-07-28 01:01:52 421344 (Main Chain) 2016-07-18 23:22:42 1195 9 days x 144 = 1296 20 min = 2 1308 = normal 0% 1195/1308- 1 = Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: in2tactics on July 28, 2016, 01:52:57 AM Well, projections continue to sink into the negative territory. I am beginning to think that my -7.5% was too modest. :(
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: javierfjavier on July 28, 2016, 02:06:47 AM javierfjavier = -10.5
It will be in the 10's range for sure Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2016, 02:11:33 AM Picks are open Lindin99 = -11.1 javierfjavier = -10.5 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 alh = -8.9 topiOleg = -8.8 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Notlist3d = -7.8 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 +1.0 = pusttiu @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: notlist3d on July 28, 2016, 02:34:26 AM Bitwisdom looks even nicer today:
Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 196,730,893,058 (-7.85%) Adjust time: After 814 Blocks, About 6.3 days Hashrate(?): 1,390,754,658 GH/s Wish we had the reason behind drop, but hard to argue with it very nice change for us miner's. Also on value around 5 dollar or so up on coinbase (it went down for a little bit to high 640's, but went back up pretty soon after). Bot little gain on value and decent looking drop looks great to me. I am hoping I am wrong on guess and it keeps going down on difficulty. Only thing that scares me is if it is someones upgrading. In that case could be a temporary drop and end up with a bigger hashrate in the end. Guess that would be the pessimistic possible view. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2016, 02:38:46 AM Bitwisdom looks even nicer today: Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 196,730,893,058 (-7.85%) Adjust time: After 814 Blocks, About 6.3 days Hashrate(?): 1,390,754,658 GH/s Wish we had the reason behind drop, but hard to argue with it very nice change for us miner's. Also on value around 5 dollar or so up on coinbase (it went down for a little bit to high 640's, but went back up pretty soon after). Bot little gain on value and decent looking drop looks great to me. I am hoping I am wrong on guess and it keeps going down on difficulty. Only thing that scares me is if it is someones upgrading. In that case could be a temporary drop and end up with a bigger hash rate in the end. Guess that would be the pessimistic possible view. any crazy big s-9 upgrade is not sensible. but another miner like bitfury,avalon, insosilicon(sp) could do that. As long as the s-9 is the only working .1 watt machine bitmaintech can go slow and force all of us to go slow. they have no need to rush as we have past the ½ing and they are the only game in town Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: tertius993 on July 28, 2016, 04:30:17 AM tertius993 = -12.1
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: petahashminer on July 28, 2016, 08:17:06 AM @philipma1957 ------------- 1195 9 days x 144 = 1296 1 hour x 10 = 10 20 min = 2 1308 = normal 0% 1195/1308- 1 = -0.8639% real time ===> this calculation is also wrong 1195/1308 = 91.36% -------------- and this has to be 1 hour x 6 = 6 so 1191/1308 - 1 = - 8.94 % ------------------------------------- according to my updated calculations, 18.07.2016 23:22 421344 28.07.2016 08:14 422571 1227 blocks states that -9.06% so far, since the last diff change. by the way, diff is decreasing continuously. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2016, 11:53:51 AM @philipma1957 ------------- 1195 9 days x 144 = 1296 1 hour x 10 = 10 20 min = 2 1308 = normal 0% 1195/1308- 1 = -0.8639% real time ===> this calculation is also wrong 1195/1308 = 91.36% -------------- and this has to be 1 hour x 6 = 6 so 1191/1308 - 1 = - 8.94 % ------------------------------------- according to my updated calculations, 18.07.2016 23:22 421344 28.07.2016 08:14 422571 1227 blocks states that -9.06% so far, since the last diff change. by the way, diff is decreasing continuously. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 196,088,783,878 (-8.15%) Adjust time: After 769 Blocks, About 6.0 days >>>>>>>>>>> we stop picking at 716 Hashrate(?): 1,374,024,583 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 11.2 minutes 3 blocks: 33.5 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: 7:50 (4.2 minutes ago) http://nextdifficulty.com/ NEXT BITCOIN DIFFICULTY CHANGE Current Hashrate: 1374988 TH/s* - Current price $ 647.116 Conservative: -10.4% -11.6% Continous: -15.3 % Next Difficulty Value:188626214642 Change will happen on appr. August 3, 2016, 10:54 am Blocks to solve in this difficulty: 774 Bitcoin block reward halving date: July 10, 2016, 11:53 am or -18 days Last updated July 28, 2016, 11:46 am GMT, last block: 422586 Picks are open tertius993 = -12.1 Lindin99 = -11.1 javierfjavier = -10.5 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 alh = -8.9 topiOleg = -8.8 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Notlist3d = -7.8 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 +1.0 = pusttiu @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: d57heinz on July 28, 2016, 12:41:27 PM d57heinz = -11.3
Going out on a limb on this one. :) Nice surprise on the drop. Thanks again Phil for keeping this alive. One of the few threads left I enjoy reading Best Regards d57heinz Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2016, 02:08:39 PM Picks are open tertius993 = -12.1 d57heinz = -11.3 Lindin99 = -11.1 javierfjavier = -10.5 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 alh = -8.9 topiOleg = -8.8 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Notlist3d = -7.8 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 +1.0 = pusttiu @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 197,075,864,371 (-7.69%) Adjust time: After 752 Blocks, About 5.8 days >>>>716 is only 36 blocks left Hashrate(?): 1,379,561,863 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 11.1 minutes 3 blocks: 33.1 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: 10:5 (2.8 minutes ago) Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: d57heinz on July 28, 2016, 05:29:00 PM @Phil i know this is way off topic.. Do you know who runs bitmainwarranty. I placed an order on the 19th and have yet to hear a peep from them. I ordered from bitmain the parts i needed and they have arrived already lol. I did have one s7 come with a defective fan. If the control board doesnt show the fan at proper speed it wont let it hash.> Took a good long while to figure that one out let me tell yea :) I had to pull a fan from s4 to replace but sadly its only 4200 rpm max and i need 6000. I had to downclock that one back to 600 from 700. Anyway thanks for the help in advance if you can provide any.
removed the link.. didnt realize it had so much info at the bottom.. as if i didnt get enough .jar and bitcoin wallet download emails enough as it is lol Looking for some 6k rpm fans if anyone know of good place to get some? Thanks Code: Thank you. Your order has been received. Best Regards d57heinz Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: petahashminer on July 28, 2016, 07:50:36 PM 18.07.2016 23:22 421344
28.07.2016 19:42 422646 1302 blocks expected diff rise -8.18% expected diff 196036386838 so far since last diff change. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 28, 2016, 08:59:15 PM Picks are open tertius993 = -12.1 d57heinz = -11.3 Lindin99 = -11.1 javierfjavier = -10.5 ZedZedNova = -9.9 traxor = -9.6 tntdgcr = -9.4 edonkey = -9.0 alh = -8.9 topiOleg = -8.8 -8.5 for me or is it networkgeek24 cpfreeplz = -8.3 Erumara = -8.2 Cuidler = -8.1 slastar = -8.0 leowonderful =-7.9 Notlist3d = -7.8 Mikestang = -7.7 -droid- = -7.6 in2tactics = -7.5 blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 petahashminer = -3.9 Jebuswalks22 = -3.6 GreatNorthData = -3.0 lolxxxx = -2.5 Goms = -1.5 philipma1957 = -1.2 adaseb = 0.0 +1.0 = pusttiu @ Veves1 I moved you to -5.4 as vapourminer had -5.5 first I had skipped it on the list. Picks are done. good luck. @d57heinz yoshi I have a pm let me find it. it is all emails From: "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmainwarranty.com> he was online today this is his forum name https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=383527 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: Kexkey on July 29, 2016, 03:29:16 AM Kexkey = -8.4
Thanks Phil! Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: HerbPean on July 29, 2016, 04:22:37 AM Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are open! prize = $50 usd Post by: notlist3d on July 29, 2016, 04:28:33 AM Bitwisdom looks even nicer today: Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 196,730,893,058 (-7.85%) Adjust time: After 814 Blocks, About 6.3 days Hashrate(?): 1,390,754,658 GH/s Wish we had the reason behind drop, but hard to argue with it very nice change for us miner's. Also on value around 5 dollar or so up on coinbase (it went down for a little bit to high 640's, but went back up pretty soon after). Bot little gain on value and decent looking drop looks great to me. I am hoping I am wrong on guess and it keeps going down on difficulty. Only thing that scares me is if it is someones upgrading. In that case could be a temporary drop and end up with a bigger hash rate in the end. Guess that would be the pessimistic possible view. any crazy big s-9 upgrade is not sensible. but another miner like bitfury,avalon, insosilicon(sp) could do that. As long as the s-9 is the only working .1 watt machine bitmaintech can go slow and force all of us to go slow. they have no need to rush as we have past the ½ing and they are the only game in town The thing I keep thinking of is most of the "big mines" for lack of better term already have put in the money for info-structure. So I don't see a lot of them going away unless they go the way of say SP and go bankrupt. I think a lot of these mines will upgrade just depends when. And honestly some of these mines might be in places where electricity is so cheap a S7 upgrade might make sense in some cases. But I could be all off base on it with upgrades. I just am surprised on drop I thought we would have seen it sooner. But it is a little bit smaller drop on bitwisdom (although not by much). Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 198,646,231,015 (-6.95%) Adjust time: After 667 Blocks, About 5.1 days Hashrate(?): 1,402,236,920 GH/s Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: petahashminer on July 29, 2016, 06:59:01 AM 18.07.2016 23:22 421344
29.07.2016 06:57 422705 1361 blocks Estimated diff change -8.38% Estimated diff 195604406292 seems nothing has changed since yesterday. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 29, 2016, 03:55:58 PM https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 197,393,792,649 (-7.54%) Adjust time: After 599 Blocks, About 4.6 days Hashrate(?): 1,403,757,498 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 11.1 minutes 3 blocks: 33.3 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: 11:40 (2.6 minutes ago) Numbers are decent. As for what happens next 1ph farms or bigger with 5 cent power or less can stay with s-7's they should wait as the s-9 are costly. but slow replacement may be what all the farms will do. since the s-7 at 8 cent power or less make money a 200 s-7 farm is 940th it makes 190 usd a day at 8 cent it makes 250 usd a day at 7 cent it makes 322 usd a day at 6 cent it makes 375 usd a day at 5 cent. if diff drops to 199 it makes 241 a day at 8 cent it makes 307 a day at 7 cent it makes 373 a day at 6 cent it makes 409 a day at 5 cent so the s-7 farms will be slow to switch to s-9 s-5 will look to switch to s-7 over s-9 if they have 3 cent 4 cent or 5 cent power Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: Mikestang on July 29, 2016, 06:33:59 PM Looks like a little upturn in network hash power, possible some of this drop really was old gear coming off line and we'll see a bit of the new gear start to come back in and take its place. Although it would be nice to see a few periods of negative adjustment while maintaining a strong btc price.
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: topiOleg on July 29, 2016, 10:47:37 PM The upturn is very small, maybe around 194 diff in the last two days. So the difficulty might really end around 199 this period, with the possibility to go bit down next difficulty period as well (maybe as low as 190-195 if not many new units plugs in).
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 30, 2016, 08:54:24 AM https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 199,085,409,986 (-6.75%) Adjust time: After 504 Blocks, About 3.8 days Hashrate(?): 1,417,088,328 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 11.0 minutes >>>>>>>>>> this is close to -10% 3 blocks: 32.9 minutes 6 blocks: 1.1 hours Updated: http://nextdifficulty.com/ NEXT BITCOIN DIFFICULTY CHANGE Current Hashrate: 1398453 TH/s* - Current price $ 648.001 Conservative: -7.6% -8.3% Continous: -10.4 % Next Difficulty Value:195778120560 Change will happen on appr. August 3, 2016, 4:07 am Blocks to solve in this difficulty: 506 Bitcoin block reward halving date: July 10, 2016, 12:06 pm or -20 days Last updated July 30, 2016, 8:46 am GMT, last block: 422854 http://bitcoincharts.com/ Blocks 422856 Total BTC 15.786M Difficulty 213492501108 Estimated 203709668234 in 504 blks Network total 1467345.115 Thash/s Blocks/hour 5.76 / 625 s >>>> this is about 7.84% We are hanging in there maybe we end up -7.5% Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on July 31, 2016, 03:33:47 AM We look good!
http://nextdifficulty.com/ Conservative = -8.1% Current? = -8.6% Continous = -10.1% All of those are very good numbers. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: cpfreeplz on July 31, 2016, 07:23:09 PM We look good! http://nextdifficulty.com/ Conservative = -8.1% Current? = -8.6% Continous = -10.1% All of those are very good numbers. -8.3 would be the best number ;) I have a feeling if I don't win I'll have been very close! I'd have to assume it's going to be somewhere around -8% or -9% with the current trends. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on July 31, 2016, 07:32:46 PM 302 to go means we made 1714 blocks
https://blockchain.info/blocks 423058 (Main Chain) 2016-07-31 19:27:36 421334 (Main Chain) 2016-07-18 23:07:12 12 days 12 x 144 = 1728 20 hours 20 x 6 = 120 20 mins 2 x 1 = 2 1850 = 0% 1714/1850 -1 = -7.35135% is real time number things have picked up a bit so -6 to -8 look to be where we will end up Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on August 01, 2016, 03:31:22 AM BTC price keeps dropping it is down to 620 on coinbase!
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 01, 2016, 03:34:22 AM We could use a drop to 550 even to 480 usd. That could really drop difficulty a lot.
I purchased 300 worth of coin at 619 a few minutes ago. at a 480 price 8 cent power is a loser for the s-7 that will knock out some farms at the current 619 price an s-7 at 10 cent power earns 10 cents a day I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: notlist3d on August 01, 2016, 07:51:41 AM We could use a drop to 550 even to 480 usd. That could really drop difficulty a lot. I purchased 300 worth of coin at 619 a few minutes ago. at a 480 price 8 cent power is a loser for the s-7 that will knock out some farms at the current 619 price an s-7 at 10 cent power earns 10 cents a day I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range I'm still hoping for it to go up in value myself. Today was a drop for sure on Coinbase around 640 dropping to daily low of around 616, which was around 24 dollars. So it was not huge but still decent. But we have gone back up currently on Coinbase to 623 meaning in past 24 hours a drop of 17 or do dollars. So after rebound not a horrible drop. I have had a busy week so kinda less watching price then I normally do. But I consider myself a long term holder for the most part so dropping is not my goal even in short term. But hard to feel to bad when looking at current bitwisdom: Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 199,586,743,634 (-6.51%) Adjust time: After 237 Blocks, About 1.8 days Hashrate(?): 1,453,881,284 GH/s Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: Biodom on August 01, 2016, 03:59:13 PM I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range 1. you want btc to be at $480 2. you want bitmain to increase the price of S9 I think both of these would be beneficial to almost nobody, except those who trade stuff back and forth. a. I want the price of btc to stay stable OR slowly increase. b. I want bitmain to sell S9 for $1200 because this is what they are worth. Cheers. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 01, 2016, 04:41:51 PM I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range 1. you want btc to be at $480 2. you want bitmain to increase the price of S9 I think both of these would be beneficial to almost nobody, except those who trade stuff back and forth. a. I want the price of btc to stay stable OR slowly increase. b. I want bitmain to sell S9 for $1200 because this is what they are worth. Cheers. here is how I look at it . i took the risk of early adoption of the s-9 . I had a lot of people say it would never work out. so far so good. I do not want 1) btc to drop to 480 usd 2) s-9 to raise to 2500 either one is good for me and both will not happen. so far bitmaintech has stopped selling s-9's this also works for me. Basically anything that prevents massive diff increases works better for s-9 owners. to me the absolute worse thing for btc would be for bitmaintech to open a batch of s-9's at 1200 usd today. I have accepted that to mine you need 8 cent or lower power to stand a chance which I do have in the solar array. the big problem is I do not have 20 or 30 kwatts of it. I continue to mine and hope for the best. and yes coins can go to 2000 usd as that would work for me. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: HerbPean on August 01, 2016, 04:45:23 PM I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range 1. you want btc to be at $480 2. you want bitmain to increase the price of S9 I think both of these would be beneficial to almost nobody, except those who trade stuff back and forth. a. I want the price of btc to stay stable OR slowly increase. b. I want bitmain to sell S9 for $1200 because this is what they are worth. Cheers. here is how I look at it . i took the risk of early adoption of the s-9 . I had a lot of people say it would never work out. so far so good. I do not want 1) btc to drop to 480 usd 2) s-9 to raise to 2500 either one is good for me and both will not happen. so far bitmaintech has stopped selling s-9's this also works for me. Basically anything that prevents massive diff increases works better for s-9 owners. to me the absolute worse thing for btc would be for bitmaintech to open a batch of s-9's at 1200 usd today. I have accepted that to mine you need 8 cent or lower power to stand a chance which I do have in the solar array. the big problem is I do not have 20 or 30 kwatts of it. I continue to mine and hop for the best. and yes coins can go to 2000 usd as that would work for me. Yeah, hope you don't get fudge as much as I have with the S7 batch 1 ... This is worst investment I made so far. EDIT: that is exactly what made me not buy any S9 for now Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: Biodom on August 01, 2016, 05:08:43 PM I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range 1. you want btc to be at $480 2. you want bitmain to increase the price of S9 I think both of these would be beneficial to almost nobody, except those who trade stuff back and forth. a. I want the price of btc to stay stable OR slowly increase. b. I want bitmain to sell S9 for $1200 because this is what they are worth. Cheers. here is how I look at it . i took the risk of early adoption of the s-9 . I had a lot of people say it would never work out. so far so good. I do not want 1) btc to drop to 480 usd 2) s-9 to raise to 2500 either one is good for me and both will not happen. so far bitmaintech has stopped selling s-9's this also works for me. Basically anything that prevents massive diff increases works better for s-9 owners. to me the absolute worse thing for btc would be for bitmaintech to open a batch of s-9's at 1200 usd today. I have accepted that to mine you need 8 cent or lower power to stand a chance which I do have in the solar array. the big problem is I do not have 20 or 30 kwatts of it. I continue to mine and hop for the best. and yes coins can go to 2000 usd as that would work for me. Yeah, hope you don't get fudge as much as I have with the S7 batch 1 ... This is worst investment I made so far. EDIT: that is exactly what made me not buy any S9 for now Right! I don't think coin being $480 will work well for even current s9 owners, unless they want to buy more. I think that phil's scenarios are optimizing for his current situation and plans, not necessarily for most people involved, but this is just my opinion. So far, everything worked as he anticipated, though. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 01, 2016, 06:00:42 PM I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range 1. you want btc to be at $480 2. you want bitmain to increase the price of S9 I think both of these would be beneficial to almost nobody, except those who trade stuff back and forth. a. I want the price of btc to stay stable OR slowly increase. b. I want bitmain to sell S9 for $1200 because this is what they are worth. Cheers. here is how I look at it . i took the risk of early adoption of the s-9 . I had a lot of people say it would never work out. so far so good. I do not want 1) btc to drop to 480 usd 2) s-9 to raise to 2500 either one is good for me and both will not happen. so far bitmaintech has stopped selling s-9's this also works for me. Basically anything that prevents massive diff increases works better for s-9 owners. to me the absolute worse thing for btc would be for bitmaintech to open a batch of s-9's at 1200 usd today. I have accepted that to mine you need 8 cent or lower power to stand a chance which I do have in the solar array. the big problem is I do not have 20 or 30 kwatts of it. I continue to mine and hop for the best. and yes coins can go to 2000 usd as that would work for me. Yeah, hope you don't get fudge as much as I have with the S7 batch 1 ... This is worst investment I made so far. EDIT: that is exactly what made me not buy any S9 for now Right! I don't think coin being $480 will work well for even current s9 owners, unless they want to buy more. I think that phil's scenarios are optimizing for his current situation and plans, not necessarily for most people involved, but this is just my opinion. So far, everything worked as he anticipated, though. yeah i wanted the s-5 long slow diff jump to repeat as it was the only way I could earn a profit on the s-9 so far it has happened. but I will need 2 more months of really flat growth to be pretty sure of profit. So I mentioned a price drop to 480 usd since it kills the s-7 thus dropping diff rates... there are a lot of ways bitmaintech can play it as bitcoin is now pretty much in their hands. they could simply build out s-9's like mad and sell them cheap they have the money to do that but I don't see it as a good move on their part. maybe it is. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: HerbPean on August 01, 2016, 07:32:21 PM The
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: gt_addict on August 01, 2016, 07:55:23 PM Looks like a sharp climb back up :-\ On a plus note its heading for my pick ;D
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: notlist3d on August 01, 2016, 08:07:37 PM I really want a btc price drop to the 480-550 price range 1. you want btc to be at $480 2. you want bitmain to increase the price of S9 I think both of these would be beneficial to almost nobody, except those who trade stuff back and forth. a. I want the price of btc to stay stable OR slowly increase. b. I want bitmain to sell S9 for $1200 because this is what they are worth. Cheers. here is how I look at it . i took the risk of early adoption of the s-9 . I had a lot of people say it would never work out. so far so good. I do not want 1) btc to drop to 480 usd 2) s-9 to raise to 2500 either one is good for me and both will not happen. so far bitmaintech has stopped selling s-9's this also works for me. Basically anything that prevents massive diff increases works better for s-9 owners. to me the absolute worse thing for btc would be for bitmaintech to open a batch of s-9's at 1200 usd today. I have accepted that to mine you need 8 cent or lower power to stand a chance which I do have in the solar array. the big problem is I do not have 20 or 30 kwatts of it. I continue to mine and hope for the best. and yes coins can go to 2000 usd as that would work for me. Bitmain stopped selling batches for the moment, but it does not make me think they have stopped S9 production. I can't imagine having a head start on all other companies right not and not be producing gear. They could focus on internal or big sales temporary and that would make no S9's for a certain time period for us hobby miners. I guess I'm kinda a pessimist on it. If your a optimist you might go to the conclusion they are stuck on production of chips, or researching how to bring down cost's more. These ideas would not make more more new hashing power so likely best for hobby miners in this section... but again I'm not sure what to think. Bitwisdom is up a bit: Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 201,749,088,686 (-5.50%) Adjust time: After 141 Blocks, About 1.0 days Hashrate(?): 1,531,566,361 GH/s And BTC dropped a little on Coinbase. It has slowed the drop and went up slighly but still a decent loss from height of 23 hours of around 636 to around 615 currently. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 01, 2016, 08:47:50 PM These are hard times for BTC.
ETH and ETC look better on paper then BTC. Does not mean that they are better but they look better. I can buy 8 rx 480's at the ripoff price of 300 each and build 2 four card rigs that WILL do 200mh using 1200 watts two build cost is around 3200 usd I can't get 2 s-9s for 3200 more like 4000 using 2700 watts so more cost more watts and less earnings monthly. with the best basic mining gear available . If you have an s-7 or an avalon 6 and you are at 8 cent power you are right on the line to a negative miner. For me I am diverse but a little lite on the coin end and the cash end of BTC ETH and ETC I have also push my threshold from 10000 to 16000 of which 8000 is asic gear s-9's and plus 5000 is gpu miner gear 2000 is BTC ETH ETC 1000 is cash and I am not very comfortable as coins and cash is too low Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 01, 2016, 09:06:49 PM ETH and ETC look better on paper then BTC. Look better from a profitability standpoint maybe, and maybe from a cost-to-mine standpoint, but as viable digital currencies? I think that only bitcoin can say, right now, that it looks good on paper for that usage. But then again this isn't a speculation thread about viable currencies, it's all about price. ;DIt's interesting to see almost the same pattern in hash power as before the halving, we're still seeing big drops and then everything coming back at the end of the period. There's obviously a lot going on to drive price and hash power, but underlying it all seems to be some orchestrated effort and coordination between large farms playing with gear. Sadly we'll likely never know for sure what makes it all happen... kind of like five blind men and the elephant ;D real time 423224 (Main Chain) 2016-08-01 21:00:53 421344 (Main Chain) 2016-07-18 23:22:42 1880 blocks made 13 days are 13 x 144 = 1872 blocks 21 hours are 21 x 6 = 126 blocks 40 mins are 4 x 1 = 4 2002 blocks would be 0% 1880/2002 - 1 = -6.0939% real time not certain but winner looks to be in the range below: blindminer = -7.1 generalt = -6.8 ingiltere = -6.6 VRobb = -6.5 dukeneptun = -6.3 Psi = -6.2 ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: in2tactics on August 02, 2016, 01:30:57 AM I guess that I was not too conservative at -7.5% after all. I was really hoping for more downward pressure, but I am sure the price remaining above $600 assisted in that way.
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 01:36:26 AM I guess that I was not too conservative at -7.5% after all. I was really hoping for more downward pressure, but I am sure the price remaining above $600 assisted in that way. yeah a good quick drop to 550 would scare off more miners next jump. what we don't need now is any upwards price to 700 or higher as that will encourage higher diff. there was 400 ph in s-5 or worse gear and 800 ph in s-7 or worse gear. it would not take much price drop to truly lower the diff a lot. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 02:53:45 AM ETH and ETC look better on paper then BTC. The moment that the bailout fork happened, Ether died. They destroyed immutability and inacted monetary policy to satisfy greed, resulting in loss of trust. At the same time they drew focus to the fact that Eth is far too complex for the JavaScript generation of programmers to correctly develop programs that work as intended. Eth and Etc are both dead. It just might take a little time for them to become worthless. That doesn't mean that there's not short term returns to be made. Even Paycoin made money for some people. I got crazy rental prices during that insanity, resulting in guaranteed ROI for my Spondoolies. I never owned any Paycoin though because I never believed in it. I don't believe in Eth either ;) But back on topic, long term Eth (both forks) has no future. Bitcoin does, as long as we can learn from this mistake and not recreate it. it is all relative I see btc dying without a fix to the daily transaction cap you see eth-etc dying due to the fork I see the eth-etc fork as the simple reality for any coin. since any coin can agree to do it. I am not hot on eth-etc as much as I am on the simple fact the crypto-industry needs a gpu coin that allows millions of transaction in a day. not all asic such as the 256 al-gore-rhythm of btc.. basically a coin like btc can do heavy lifting of major transactions and stay with a small daily transaction cap like the 700,000 max now which in practice is really 280,000 to 330,000 a day. we can't survive with those numbers. well time will tell what happens you could be correct. I could be right . or most likely some other idea will come about . Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on August 02, 2016, 03:46:44 AM So Phil right now coinbase is at $602.43.
So two questions will you buy more if it drops under $600.00? What will a $575 price do to difficulty? Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 03:50:52 AM So Phil right now coinbase is at $602.43. So two questions will you buy more if it drops under $600.00? What will a $575 price do to difficulty? 1) no I won't buy more if it drops 599.99 or lower. I buy more just over a threshold not just under a threshold. So I just purchased some at $602.43 a coin 2) 575 is not low enough to really drop difficulty by a ton. I think 550 would be better to make FUD and herd shutdowns. But if we go to 577 I will purchase some more coin. We are at: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 202,185,139,697 (-5.30%) Adjust time: After 91 Blocks, About 15.8 hours Hashrate(?): 1,540,772,916 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.4 minutes 3 blocks: 31.2 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 23:45 (5.2 minutes ago) https://blockchain.info/blocks/1468813873128 423269 (Main Chain) 2016-08-02 03:33:01 421344 (Main Chain) 2016-07-18 23:22:42 1925 made 14 days = 2016 blocks 3 hours = 18 blocks 10 min = 1 block 2033 made would be 0% 1925/2033-1 = -5.31234% since it has been past 2 weeks we must be a negative number. but -5 is looking close to what we will be. Oh to be fully off topic the missing cabinet has arrived and my kitchen will be done this week. So maybe 7 weeks + or 1 a day. Really looks good. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: petahashminer on August 02, 2016, 08:14:20 AM 18.07.2016 23:22 421344
02.08.2016 08:11 423293 1949 blocks next diff%: -5.79% next diff 201126178721 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 10:42:54 AM https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 202,256,595,348 (-5.26%) Adjust time: After 52 Blocks, About 9.0 hours Hashrate(?): 1,514,129,011 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.4 minutes 3 blocks: 31.1 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: we dropped as low as 586 usd on coinbase last night. with 52 blocks left we could rollover ATguy = -6.0 DanielRo = -5.9 wpt1wpt1 = -5.8 testerman = -5.7 vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first albertamining = -4.9 merelcoin = -4.8 gt_addict = -4.7 HerbPean = -4.2 NeuroticFish = -4.1 we are in the empty zone at the moment. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on August 02, 2016, 01:39:05 PM 33 blocks left!
Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 202,014,494,029 (-5.38%) Adjust time: After 33 Blocks, About 5.7 hours Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: Biodom on August 02, 2016, 03:25:51 PM ETH and ETC look better on paper then BTC. The moment that the bailout fork happened, Ether died. They destroyed immutability and inacted monetary policy to satisfy greed, resulting in loss of trust. At the same time they drew focus to the fact that Eth is far too complex for the JavaScript generation of programmers to correctly develop programs that work as intended. Eth and Etc are both dead. It just might take a little time for them to become worthless. That doesn't mean that there's not short term returns to be made. Even Paycoin made money for some people. I got crazy rental prices during that insanity, resulting in guaranteed ROI for my Spondoolies. I never owned any Paycoin though because I never believed in it. I don't believe in Eth either ;) But back on topic, long term Eth (both forks) has no future. Bitcoin does, as long as we can learn from this mistake and not recreate it. Disagree. Maybe in your opinion it died, but not in mine. All this immutability talk is a non-starter in my opinion, unless you are a computer program. People do change things. I agree that ethereum is too complex, perhaps, and this could be it's weakness, but not the fact that they adjusted something. I think this is helpful as far as learning what crypto can and cannot do. If anything, this might increase the pace of innovation for everyone. Scaling of both btc and eth should accelerate quite soon. In btc we will know once the meeting summary is released and in eth/etc I hear 50-100 transactions/sec in Casper. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 03:47:10 PM ETH and ETC look better on paper then BTC. The moment that the bailout fork happened, Ether died. They destroyed immutability and inacted monetary policy to satisfy greed, resulting in loss of trust. At the same time they drew focus to the fact that Eth is far too complex for the JavaScript generation of programmers to correctly develop programs that work as intended. Eth and Etc are both dead. It just might take a little time for them to become worthless. That doesn't mean that there's not short term returns to be made. Even Paycoin made money for some people. I got crazy rental prices during that insanity, resulting in guaranteed ROI for my Spondoolies. I never owned any Paycoin though because I never believed in it. I don't believe in Eth either ;) But back on topic, long term Eth (both forks) has no future. Bitcoin does, as long as we can learn from this mistake and not recreate it. Disagree. Maybe in your opinion it died, but not in mine. All this immutability talk is a non-starter in my opinion, unless you are a computer program. People do change things. I agree that ethereum is too complex, perhaps, and this could be it's weakness, but not the fact that they adjusted something. I think this is helpful as far as learning what crypto can and cannot do. If anything, this might increase the pace of innovation for everyone. Scaling of both btc and eth should accelerate quite soon. In btc we will know once the meeting summary is released and in eth/etc I hear 50-100 transactions/sec in Casper. Vs 300,000 a day for the btc rate today. More then 12 times the volume then btc does today. I pretty much think. Any coin can changes rules any way they want. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! Post by: Cuidler on August 02, 2016, 03:54:54 PM I dont get it, the price drops a little, but the hashrate recovers a bit. Pretty counter intuitive. Looks like many miners dont care about the price at all so the phil wish for the price to drop to low 500 could not help much, quite opposite, the bigger Bitcoin price, the better for both holders + miners.
Edit: deleted offtopic part of this post about ethereum, but I just reacted to the previous discussion here and thought it would be ok, but I agree with phil decission its Bitcoin difficulty thread and altcoin talks belongs elsewhere. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 05:04:51 PM we are drifting away from btc diff too much.
so deleting posts below I saved them here: ETH and ETC look better on paper then BTC. Look better from a profitability standpoint maybe, and maybe from a cost-to-mine standpoint, but as viable digital currencies? I think that only bitcoin can say, right now, that it looks good on paper for that usage. But then again this isn't a speculation thread about viable currencies, it's all about price. ;DIt's interesting to see almost the same pattern in hash power as before the halving, we're still seeing big drops and then everything coming back at the end of the period. There's obviously a lot going on to drive price and hash power, but underlying it all seems to be some orchestrated effort and coordination between large farms playing with gear. Sadly we'll likely never know for sure what makes it all happen... ETH and ETC look better on paper then BTC. The moment that the bailout fork happened, Ether died. They destroyed immutability and inacted monetary policy to satisfy greed, resulting in loss of trust. At the same time they drew focus to the fact that Eth is far too complex for the JavaScript generation of programmers to correctly develop programs that work as intended. Eth and Etc are both dead. It just might take a little time for them to become worthless. That doesn't mean that there's not short term returns to be made. Even Paycoin made money for some people. I got crazy rental prices during that insanity, resulting in guaranteed ROI for my Spondoolies. I never owned any Paycoin though because I never believed in it. I don't believe in Eth either ;) But back on topic, long term Eth (both forks) has no future. Bitcoin does, as long as we can learn from this mistake and not recreate it. But with the Vitalik bailout, ETH can hardly have a future. says who? most developers disagree and continue development, which is what is most important. Bailed out coin does not have future for me, I should have been more clear about this, so sorry. Its good ethereum developers continue the development, because ethereum needs it to be even useable for complicated smart contracts to be much safer in the future. The good thing is ETC can be functional copy of the ETH but without the bailout compromise, so there is nothing I have against using ethereum ETC for smart contracts if it become safe and usefull for something. Pretty pitty ethereum developers preffered the bailout, as I think no split would ever be if they refused the bailout in principe and honoured the DAO contract and learned from the mistake instead. BTC diff can be manipulated by bitmaintech. They can sell s-9's too cheap flood the market with hash. They can sell s-9's too costly and let the market fight for high priced gear. They can sell no s-9's at all and let the market hunger for high priced gear. This is pretty much the state of btc right now only one supplier that will sell to any one and they are not selling at the moment. So the next 90 days I have no idea what they plan to do. This is why right now I want price drop and hash drop to happen. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 201,390,054,505 (-5.67%) Adjust time: After 17 Blocks, About 2.9 hours Hashrate(?): 1,521,031,054 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.3 minutes 3 blocks: 31.0 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 13:0 (2.5 minutes ago) we drifted from -5.38 to -5.67 and may go to -5.8 to - 6.1 over the next 3 hours or so. price is just under 600. if we end at -6.0 and coin price settles at 550 - 575 I think we will see a second -5 or better for next jump Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on August 02, 2016, 06:30:55 PM Phil looks like one of the three below will win
vg54dett = -5.6 vapourminer = -5.5 Veves1 = -5.4 vapourminer had -5.5 first https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 201,725,772,945 (-5.51%) Adjust time: After 3 Blocks, About 30.9 minutes Hashrate(?): 1,551,964,820 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.3 minutes 3 blocks: 30.9 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 14:30 (1.4 minutes ago) Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 06:33:17 PM https://blockchain.info/
423357 (Main Chain) 2016-08-02 18:15:55 3 blocks to go and very close finish of note and not for this jump but the next jump. bitfinex has been hacked https://i.imgur.com/MUa3FoGs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Qq3vPs9s.jpg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1573150.msg15792005#msg15792005 Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: TheYankeesWin! on August 02, 2016, 06:54:17 PM So who won?
Veves1? You moved him into the winning spot! Due to his error of picking someone else's pick! Difficulty History Date Difficulty Change Hash Rate Aug 02 2016 201,893,210,853 -5.43% 1,445,207,896 GH/s Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 06:57:59 PM Looks like he was very lucky.
@ Veves1 please contact me with a BTC address for your prize. On a different note I am on the hook at bitfinex for funds. Although my coins were all ETC and ETH I have more then 700 usd worth of them. If it is a full loss of 55ETC and 51ETH I will have to end this contest. @ Veves1 I have funds for you. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: notlist3d on August 02, 2016, 07:06:24 PM https://blockchain.info/ 423357 (Main Chain) 2016-08-02 18:15:55 3 blocks to go and very close finish of note and not for this jump but the next jump. bitfinex has been hacked https://i.imgur.com/MUa3FoGs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Qq3vPs9s.jpg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1573150.msg15792005#msg15792005 I just saw this after looking at BTC values on different sites. That is crazy on Bitfinex I know a lot loved them with advanced trading, they do not say extent of hack in terms of BTC. I really hope we are not going to see another MT. Gox type of scare. Will be interesting to see what happens on it. Hoping it is not huge hopefully someone is able to follow BTC and see how big. Either way BTC had a crap day in value and market could possibly be scared. Hard to say what will happen. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2016, 07:13:07 PM https://blockchain.info/ 423357 (Main Chain) 2016-08-02 18:15:55 3 blocks to go and very close finish of note and not for this jump but the next jump. bitfinex has been hacked https://i.imgur.com/MUa3FoGs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Qq3vPs9s.jpg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1573150.msg15792005#msg15792005 I just saw this after looking at BTC values on different sites. That is crazy on Bitfinex I know a lot loved them with advanced trading, they do not say extent of hack in terms of BTC. I really hope we are not going to see another MT. Gox type of scare. Will be interesting to see what happens on it. Hoping it is not huge hopefully someone is able to follow BTC and see how big. Either way BTC had a crap day in value and market could possibly be scared. Hard to say what will happen. The saving grace is my 700 or so is in etc and eth . That was 14 more contests. I am hopeful that I recover the funds, if not I will most likely end the contest on a sour note. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: NeuroticFish on August 02, 2016, 07:21:21 PM Looks like he was very lucky. @ Veves1 please contact me with a BTC address for your prize. On a different note I am on the hook at bitfinex for funds. Although my coins were all ETC and ETH I have more then 700 usd worth of them. If it is a full loss of 55ETC and 51ETH I will have to end this contest. @ Veves1 I have funds for you. Woah. I hope it's not that bad and the loses are not big. Normally they should have a big part of the funds on cold storage. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: Biodom on August 02, 2016, 09:07:32 PM Sorry about it, Phil.
Since this is about to be locked, i would post my thoughts here, feel free to delete. I am in kind of sour mood about recent developments. As i see it, some bitcoiners got jealous of ethereum, hacked the DAO. Ethereum foundation released a half-baked hard fork in response, which was supported by large numbers of users anyway. Some bitcoiners wanted to support eth classic in lieu of such fork, did not let unforked chain die, causing 35% decrease in eth value while propping an alternative chain for, perhaps, the sole reasons of eventually dumping hacked ETC there. Someone (maybe from ethereum side, just a reasonable guess) hacked bitfinex, causing 18% decrease in btc value, which is LARGER than the total market cap of ethereum. As i see it, crypto space has become a toxic soup where very intelligent people try to up each other while regular folks suffer as a consequence. I don't like where this is going. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: Mikestang on August 02, 2016, 11:10:23 PM On a different note I am on the hook at bitfinex for funds. Although my coins were all ETC and ETH I have more then 700 usd worth of them. If it is a full loss of 55ETC and 51ETH I will have to end this contest. Dang, Phil, I am sorry to hear that! Not just for your monetary loss, but the loss to this forum and community of this speculation game should you no longer be able to continue it. I don't know if it would be worth your effort, but even without the prize it would still be fun to guess and speculate and keep these threads going. Just a thought, hope you get some good news. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: merelcoin on August 03, 2016, 05:53:47 AM On a different note I am on the hook at bitfinex for funds. Although my coins were all ETC and ETH I have more then 700 usd worth of them. If it is a full loss of 55ETC and 51ETH I will have to end this contest. Dang, Phil, I am sorry to hear that! Not just for your monetary loss, but the loss to this forum and community of this speculation game should you no longer be able to continue it. I don't know if it would be worth your effort, but even without the prize it would still be fun to guess and speculate and keep these threads going. Just a thought, hope you get some good news. I'd have to agree... Altough i seldomly post in these threads other than taking an (sometimes educated) guess, i'm still following your threads on an allmost daily basis . I'd still keep guessing once in a while even if there was no price. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: tertius993 on August 03, 2016, 06:34:10 AM Can't believe how that difficulty period went - most odd with the falling price, and My guess was out by a country mile.
Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: veves1 on August 03, 2016, 10:24:24 AM I won !!!
philipma1957 USD, ETH, ETC, LTC don't have been stolen , only BTC / anyway it's very bad news good day for all . Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: vapourminer on August 03, 2016, 11:01:33 AM congrats veves!
phil.. that bitfinex thing truly sucks. hopefully you will come out ok. Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 03, 2016, 11:06:32 AM payment made.
https://blockchain.info/tx/91f03947214e8853119b3cd06ad380aba49afb14e5f8cab10c62acf2557da319 going to lock this up. and by the way the hash rate is rising! new thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1573186.0 and the numbers for diff are below: Difficulty History Date Difficulty Change Hash Rate Aug 02 2016 201,893,210,853 -5.43% 1,445,207,896 GH/s Jul 18 2016 213,492,501,108 0.04% 1,528,238,850 GH/s Jul 04 2016 213,398,925,331 1.88% 1,527,569,009 GH/s Jun 21 2016 209,453,158,595 6.83% 1,499,324,110 GH/s Jun 08 2016 196,061,423,940 -1.63% 1,403,462,340 GH/s May 24 2016 199,312,067,531 2.60% 1,426,731,353 GH/s May 11 2016 194,254,820,283 8.73% 1,390,530,167 GH/s Apr 28 2016 178,659,257,773 -0.01% 1,278,892,782 GH/s Apr 14 2016 178,678,307,672 7.09% 1,279,029,147 GH/s Apr 01 2016 166,851,513,283 0.82% 1,194,369,655 GH/s Mar 18 2016 165,496,835,118 4.46% 1,184,672,491 GH/s Mar 04 2016 158,427,203,767 -3.10% 1,134,066,098 GH/s Feb 19 2016 163,491,654,909 13.44% 1,170,318,852 GH/s Feb 07 2016 144,116,447,847 20.06% 1,031,625,717 GH/s Jan 26 2016 120,033,340,651 5.89% 859,232,121 GH/s Jan 13 2016 113,354,299,801 9.12% 811,421,684 GH/s Dec 31 2015 103,880,340,815 11.16% 743,604,444 GH/s Dec 18 2015 93,448,670,796 18.14% 668,931,642 GH/s Dec 06 2015 79,102,380,900 8.77% 566,236,898 GH/s Nov 24 2015 72,722,780,643 10.44% 520,569,941 GH/s Nov 11 2015 65,848,255,180 5.77% 471,360,171 GH/s Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s Oct 15 2015 60,883,825,480 0.12% 435,823,399 GH/s Oct 01 2015 60,813,224,039 2.49% 435,318,014 GH/s Sep 17 2015 59,335,351,234 4.17% 424,738,988 GH/s Sep 04 2015 56,957,648,455 4.98% 407,718,729 GH/s Aug 22 2015 54,256,630,328 2.95% 388,384,088 GH/s Aug 08 2015 52,699,842,409 0.81% 377,240,166 GH/s Jul 25 2015 52,278,304,846 2.35% 374,222,683 GH/s Jul 11 2015 51,076,366,303 3.39% 365,618,871 GH/s Jun 28 2015 49,402,014,931 -0.58% 353,633,397 GH/s Jun 14 2015 49,692,386,355 4.42% 355,711,957 GH/s May 31 2015 47,589,591,154 -2.50% 340,659,563 GH/s May 17 2015 48,807,487,245 2.44% 349,377,603 GH/s May 03 2015 47,643,398,018 0.07% 341,044,727 GH/s Apr 19 2015 47,610,564,513 -3.71% 340,809,696 GH/s Apr 05 2015 49,446,390,688 5.84% 353,951,052 GH/s Mar 22 2015 46,717,549,645 -1.50% 334,417,246 GH/s Mar 08 2015 47,427,554,951 1.59% 339,499,662 GH/s Feb 22 2015 46,684,376,317 5.01% 334,179,783 GH/s Feb 09 2015 44,455,415,962 7.71% 318,224,263 GH/s Jan 27 2015 41,272,873,895 -6.14% 295,442,739 GH/s Jan 12 2015 43,971,662,056 8.20% 314,761,417 GH/s Dec 30 2014 40,640,955,017 3.00% 290,919,288 GH/s Dec 17 2014 39,457,671,307 -1.37% 282,449,013 GH/s Dec 02 2014 40,007,470,271 -0.73% 286,384,627 GH/s Nov 18 2014 40,300,030,328 1.76% 288,478,854 GH/s Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s Oct 23 2014 35,985,640,265 2.81% 257,595,247 GH/s © 2013-2014 BitcoinWisdom.com Title: Re: Diff thread July 18 to Aug 1st? picks are Now closed! prize = $50 usd Post by: philipma1957 on August 15, 2016, 07:48:23 PM Okay first off VRobb was the winner of last contest 50 usd in btc. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538811.msg15471616#msg15471616 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538811.msg15630301#msg15630301 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1538811.msg15630787#msg15630787 So a >>>>> New game. PICKS BEGIN AT 1116 When game began about 20 months ago coins were about 200 usd 0.10 btc was about 20 usd. we paid in .10 btc numbers. Our first donator to the game spent over 2.8 coins. I have been the sole payer for the last 4 months and have paid .9 coins so 3.7 coins have been awarded for free, nada, nothing no cost. I am still able to do this due to my signature fee. Which I put into payments here. First rule is I decide all rules since it is a free chance to get some coin. Second rule is you need to be a forum member since April 15th of 2016 Third rule is you need to have made 30 posts. I will read them and decide if you appear to be real. Fourth rule is if I think you are double dipping your picks won't be allowed Fifth rule is we open picks at 1116 and end picks at 716 just about 2.5 days to pick. Sixth rule is this is for fun so I tend to allow off topic and don't delete very much. Seventh rule is your pick should look like -1.2 = philipma1957 or +1.2 = philipma1957 Eight rule is if you pick a used pick I will assign a pick to you and you are stuck with the one I assign. Ninth rule no pick changes Tenth rule no pre picks via pm's Eleven rule no late picks. Anything I missed above feel free to mention. I self mod due to seriouscoin I always pick -1.2 due to seriouscoin https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty Bitcoin Difficulty: 213,492,501,108 Estimated Next Difficulty: 213,066,572,865 (-0.20%) Adjust time: After 1988 Blocks, About 13.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,615,967,409 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 9.9 minutes 3 blocks: 29.8 minutes 6 blocks: 59.5 minutes Updated: 23:20 (2.3 minutes ago) current numbers above I notice some graph issues between two websites. bitcoinwisdom seems to have a false spike I need to look into the issue. if we need to change sites for official diff numbers I will https://i.imgur.com/3jmgScv.png |