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Title: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: MWesterweele on July 21, 2016, 04:36:03 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: morantis on July 21, 2016, 04:37:34 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.

it is not technical, but in my opinion it is not about length, it is about content.
if your reply and/or OP adds value to the preexisting system, then it is not SPAM


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: grim07 on July 21, 2016, 04:38:29 AM
make sure that your post is relevant to the topic of the thread. and the time interval also is important. thats all. even if its one line but a constructrive post and related to topic that is not consider as spam post


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 21, 2016, 04:43:01 AM
Well, one great way to tell is to see how many of your posts get deleted.   What you described doesn't sound too bad,  but as mentioned it's not necessarily about length or how long in between posts.  True shitposters tend to get booted off their campaigns and off the forum pretty efficiently.   I have signatures blocked so I can't even see which one you're wearing.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: HabBear on July 21, 2016, 04:45:30 AM
I'll echo the two people that replied before me - ask yourself if your comment is adding value to the discussion.

If your comment is pushing the discussion forward by answering a question asked, introducing new information, debating a point made (with honest fact, not sarcasm), or acknowledging the insight offered your comment is constructive.

If your comment is gratuitous, repeating a lot of what others have already said, not answering the question asked by the OP, or in any other way not pushing the conversation forward it's probably spam.

I don't think the time interval is an issue and maybe the fact that you think it is an issue (that you have to watch how frequently you post) is an indicator that your posts aren't as constructive as they should be. I often only have 15 minutes to check what's going on in the forum, so I may make 5 posts in 15 minutes but that doesn't mean its spam. My posts are constructive and thoughtful - sometimes brief and sometimes lengthy.

Use your gut to feel it out!


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: yenxz on July 21, 2016, 04:48:33 AM
is definitely your posts must be relevant to your topic and the time interval is also important . that, even if it is one line
but the posts are not spam and should be related to the topic


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: morantis on July 21, 2016, 04:50:44 AM
I'll echo the two people that replied before me - ask yourself if your comment is adding value to the discussion.

If your comment is pushing the discussion forward by answering a question asked, introducing new information, debating a point made (with honest fact, not sarcasm), or acknowledging the insight offered your comment is constructive.

If your comment is gratuitous, repeating a lot of what others have already said, not answering the question asked by the OP, or in any other way not pushing the conversation forward it's probably spam.

I don't think the time interval is an issue and maybe the fact that you think it is an issue (that you have to watch how frequently you post) is an indicator that your posts aren't as constructive as they should be. I often only have 15 minutes to check what's going on in the forum, so I may make 5 posts in 15 minutes but that doesn't mean its spam. My posts are constructive and thoughtful - sometimes brief and sometimes lengthy.

Use your gut to feel it out!

while this is all true, i have made replies that are pretty silly.

these are based on the fact that i know the user i am replying to and the reply makes sense to them and maybe even in the thread...no one cares if you throw a good lol into a thread, as long as you are generally the type of poster that usually post constructive information, a person that always makes flippant replies to threads, especially where this makes no sense will die a quick death by banning, whether from the forum, their campaign or both


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: DOGE12321 on July 21, 2016, 04:52:45 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.
In my opinion, spam posts are those which lack quality and quantity. Examples: 'I will buy it for 12BTC". However, I think quality beats quantity and one's posts don't have to go to lengths like 3-4 lines. Just one line with good quality can be considered a good post. I hope your campaign accepts you.  :)


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: morantis on July 21, 2016, 05:02:39 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.
In my opinion, spam posts are those which lack quality and quantity. Examples: 'I will buy it for 12BTC". However, I think quality beats quantity and one's posts don't have to go to lengths like 3-4 lines. Just one line with good quality can be considered a good post. I hope your campaign accepts you.  :)

see i think that "I will buy it for 12BTC" can be non-spam if it is context.  if i start a thread selling my new "Master ASIC" which mines at 12 PHS and someone jumps in with that line, it makes sense, fits the thread and the length is unimportant.  I am just saying that the "body of work" for a user should not consist entirely of replies like that


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on July 21, 2016, 05:19:43 AM
Before you hit the reply button, ask yourself why do you want to reply?
Is it because you have something to reply or share that others have not mentioned or shared yet?
Or you want to reply because you want to increase your post count and earn from it.
If your answer is the 2nd one, then what you posted is more likely a spam.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: shashank5119 on July 21, 2016, 05:31:48 AM
I think posting only in those topics in which you have some knowledge and you can say something. Not just to increase the post count.And if a one line post given a good answer and good comment on the topic then i dont think its spam,just increasing the sentense to make it 3-4 lines post is not neccessary.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: arwin100 on July 21, 2016, 05:36:20 AM
If you post nonsense things that doesnt help and out of the topic that is spam and also if you post conceiding and 1-2 minutes gap that can also be called spam thats why you really post genuinely and follow the topic always cause if you post some senseless post that could lead you to be banned in these furom or even marked by campaign managers that red list to their campaigns.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: Kakmakr on July 21, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
You just need to post without having to calculate how many lines you type. Type as if you are having a discussion with other people, and make sure your content is constructive and on-topic. Typing in Upper case is called "screaming" so do not do that. Post in different sections on the forum and do not post 50 times a day, or you will definitely get banned. 

There are no specific guidelines, but a good practice would be not to post more than 100 posts in a given month. If you signed on with a signature campaign, it should be much lower, because these members are under constant harassment from other non-members.

Stay within the rules of your campaign and you will be fine. ^hmmmmm^


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: bL4nkcode on July 21, 2016, 05:48:11 AM
As what others said even a 1 liner post if it is not off topic to the original post it will not consider as spamming. Just answer the question that the OP ask for. Considered as spamming IMO are Even if you post something 3-4 lines but it is insignificant regarding to the post well its consider as spam, also 1-3 minutes interval of posting, if someone answered already what is ask then you post again, and just copy paste posts are also spamming.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: helloeverybody on July 21, 2016, 05:51:58 AM
Different people on this forum have different ideas of what spam is, Some will say spam is not writing a long enough post, others will say your post isnt constructive enough and some will say that youve posted in a thread thats already got 20 pages of replies so your spamming. Its not easy to keep everyone happy. Basically if your wearing a signature be prepared to get called out for spamming by someone at one point or another.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: Zadicar on July 21, 2016, 06:02:46 AM
Your post be marked as spam if it doesnt  relevant to the topic, as they say one liner or two or more doesn't matter just make it sure your reply would fit or can contribute to Op's idea or queries. Its just commonsense to compare a spam or not a spam reply as long it connects to the topic there wouldnt be a problem.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: windale on July 21, 2016, 06:04:50 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.

maybe your content comment out of the topic op write
post content rated spam or not, based on writings whether it is appropriate to the topic or not


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: NorrisK on July 21, 2016, 06:05:42 AM
As others have said, reply to posts with content that adds to the topic, not just posting a long reply.

Furthermore, don't reply to the first page when there are 20 pages already and the topic started drifting. Reply to recent posts and bring something to the discussion.

If a topic has been silent for a few weeks, most likely replying to someone is not usefull anymore. Don't post for the sake of posting.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: shinratensei_ on July 21, 2016, 06:09:32 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.
Just simple your post is a misunderstanding with the topic maybe if your post just a one liner but it's connected with the topic is better than posting 1 liner or above but is disconnected with the topic or out of topic.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: Omegasun on July 21, 2016, 06:09:42 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.


as long as your post is not off topic and not spaamy. like bump, thanks ,up and so on that looks so spammy. it is a quality post. spam post is not according to length. it is based on the contain of your post


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: shinratensei_ on July 21, 2016, 06:14:49 AM


Furthermore, don't reply to the first page when there are 20 pages already and the topic started drifting. Reply to recent posts and bring something to the discussion.

If a topic has been silent for a few weeks, most likely replying to someone is not usefull anymore. Don't post for the sake of posting.

I sure about that,never reviving the older post or post has been a silent for a few time. it was out of the rule to making a good poster I sure you will be called a spammer for doing that. I always saw the people or spammer is doing that.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: LucioTan on July 21, 2016, 06:32:43 AM
For me your post must have a valuable opinion and useful ideas and helpful information and avoid repeating your post you will soon regret it :) tips for posting, post something that can help others it is better to be appreciate by others than to be hate by them avoid bragging with someone to avoid trouble hope it helps :)


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: danherbias07 on July 21, 2016, 06:37:24 AM
I think this should be at the off topic section. This is not about bitcoin anymore.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: milewilda on July 21, 2016, 06:37:52 AM
For me your post must have a valuable opinion and useful ideas and helpful information and avoid repeating your post you will soon regret it :) tips for posting, post something that can help others it is better to be appreciate by others than to be hate by them avoid bragging with someone to avoid trouble hope it helps :)

Agree, it better to appreciate other than to start an argument with someone.  Just post  to the things that could benefit to anyone not to post those nonsense and repetitive post that are being asked already on this forum. as long as you follow the rules of this forum then you should be fine.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: ObscureBean on July 21, 2016, 06:46:03 AM
Spam cannot really defined accurately other than by the one posting, so only you can know if you're spamming. A single word post may appear as spam to many but if you're being true to yourself then it's not spam. Similarly a comment of a few lines doesn't automatically mean the post isn't spam. A good rule of thumb would be to only post if you're genuinely interested in a topic.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on July 21, 2016, 07:10:06 AM
For me your post must have a valuable opinion and useful ideas and helpful information and avoid repeating your post you will soon regret it :) tips for posting, post something that can help others it is better to be appreciate by others than to be hate by them avoid bragging with someone to avoid trouble hope it helps :)

Agree, it better to appreciate other than to start an argument with someone.  Just post  to the things that could benefit to anyone not to post those nonsense and repetitive post that are being asked already on this forum. as long as you follow the rules of this forum then you should be fine.


That's right yesterday I see on the meta someone is posted about general guidelines to determine the spam post.. maybe this is can giving a more knowledge from everyone how to determine the spammer post.




1. Beating a dead horse - There are some threads wherein only some very specific replies can be considered helpful. Posting the same thing that the last ten people before you has posted does not benefit anyone (except the spammer padding up his/her post count). Read the OP, read the first couple of pages of the thread, and read the last 2 pages of the thread. Do at least that much before you post something which might have been just posted five minutes ago. "Extreme parroting" that can be avoided by simply reading the last ten posts is just a lengthened '+1' post with ignorance used as an excuse for plausible deniability.

2. Giving unsolicited opinion that helps no one - Not all threads require your opinion. If the OP just wants help with something specific, then don't post your opinion when it has no chance of helping the OP. Getting helpful advice is always a good thing, but someone who needs help fixing his/her corrupted wallet data file surely doesn't want to read about some online wallet that you use for some irrelevant reason. If it's tangential to a solution, then go ahead and share your opinion. Otherwise, find some relevant thread to share your opinion on.

3. Guessing needlessly - Sometimes, people have problems but have no idea what that actual problem is. Oftentimes, the problem isn't clear to everyone else as well. When that happens, people start guessing what the problem could be and how to solve it. That's acceptable since it advances the discussion, and would ultimately lead to a resolution. However, in cases where the problem has already been resolved, there is no need for you to post what you think the problem could be. No one needs you to guess why a transaction isn't being confirmed by the blockchain when people who actually know what they're talking about have already said that it's a double-spend. If you can't contribute anything to the topic, then just shut up (figuratively) and read quietly -- you might actually learn something.

4. Posting on spam threads - Yes, some threads are just meant to pad a spammer's post count. Threads that ask you how many Bitcoins you have, or what you would do if someone gave some random number of Bitcoins, or how many Bitcoin private keys you hold, or how long you have known about and/or used Bitcoins, et cetera, et cetera -- all of those are sig spam threads masquerading as discussions about Bitcoin. There is no intelligent discussion going on in there, and any intelligent discussion that does arise would most certainly be off-topic. If you want to participate in such a discussion, then either take off your signature or move the thread to Off-Topic. Posting in those threads is just as bad as posting "1st" as a comment. If you aren't getting paid for posts in the Off Topic subforum, then why do you think you should get paid for posts on threads like those?

5. Necroposting - A necropost is not a bump. If it was, then we would call it a bump and not a necropost. If a thread has been dead for a long time and there's no urgent need to revive it, then leave it the frickin' hell alone. If you aren't sure if it's an old thread, then check the date of the first post. Most of the time, just reading the OP would be enough to tell you that the thread is outdated and most likely dead. What exactly is so important that you can't check the date of the first post? Are you afraid that you won't have enough time to spam on your 10 other accounts if you take a minute to read the thread a bit?

6. Posting on a necroposted thread - This is not as bad as necroposting, but it is just as heinous if just reading the last page of the thread gives enough indication that the thread was only revived by a necroposter. Once again, read through the damn thread before posting. Even reading a page or two is better than just reading the thread title alone. If you're not reading a thread before posting, then you don't have the right to object when you get labeled as a spammer.



Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: groll on July 21, 2016, 07:24:22 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.

As long that as you have made effort to post you will no be kicked nor your post consider a spam. Aside from what guidelines you mentioned I will also add that your post must be in line with the topic and not far from it. Also before you reply or quote make sure that post is not a scam otherwise your post will be deleted. Just make you post well made with nice grammar and has a content and not senseless then it is good.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: btcdevil on July 21, 2016, 07:40:41 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.

As long that as you have made effort to post you will no be kicked nor your post consider a spam. Aside from what guidelines you mentioned I will also add that your post must be in line with the topic and not far from it. Also before you reply or quote make sure that post is not a scam otherwise your post will be deleted. Just make you post well made with nice grammar and has a content and not senseless then it is good.

What you said is correct, spam posting is the posts which you are posting opposite to the topic and senseless and also that what others have stated the reply you are just coping and posting same is also considered as spam. Post according to the topic and first you have to read all the post replied in that thread so that you can understand the topic and then before your post reply check and post according to that or else post new reply but it should be on the thread topic.


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: Strongkored on July 21, 2016, 07:44:24 AM
I always post 3-4 liner per post and have 10-15 minutes interval. Do you think this is spamming?
And If this is not spam what is spam in your own opinion?
Because i want to change my per post so that many campaign will accept me if I apply.
And I want to be nice to my campaign now so that my signature campaign now dont have reaso to kick me.


I think ratings spam is not based on interval the time you make a post, and shorter length of sentence. Many post is long but it is considered spam. So I think it's spam judgment based on the content or the meaning contained in every post you make. And in this forum we are required not to discuss the answers off topic. And we are allowed to make a post without limit to the number because there are no regulations limiting the number of posts I guess, but based on the rank/activity we got.

But some people think why people are in a hurry to make a post if it were not for spam, and post that in a hurry it is making less qualified post and can be considered spam post.

I've adjusted the limits to make spamming more difficult.

Activity   Min. seconds between post actions   Max PM recipients   PMs per hour
036035
1674530
3060560
6030560
1001210120
2001015120
300820120


Title: Re: HOW TO KNOW IF MY POST IS SPAM?
Post by: criptix on July 21, 2016, 03:26:05 PM
look at this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559169.0


reported it since yesterday i think, but it is still there.
it seems just quoting the OP and saying nothing is all fine now for sig spammers  ::)


well i guess it is free for all spam season now.