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Economy => Services => Topic started by: Financial_Genius on July 21, 2016, 01:11:45 PM



Title: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 21, 2016, 01:11:45 PM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ?  


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 21, 2016, 02:56:03 PM
Depends how good the idea is.Having said that,paying a developer and getting the site up is not a problem.Takes couple of months or so,the problem starts when you don't get any visitors on the site.Basically,no one will.You need to put a lot of money and efforts for advertisement.If you don't have that kind of money,there is no point in getting the site up.Did I forget to mention the house investment ? Oh that's the most important part..


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: white.walker on July 21, 2016, 03:09:09 PM
they may be able to do it if you are funding costs like hardware , vps etc. You should try pm'ing them . Look for services section both in bitcoin and altcoin (altcoin marketplace to be precise) you maybe able to find someone, i'm quite positive !


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 21, 2016, 03:34:34 PM
Depends how good the idea is.Having said that,paying a developer and getting the site up is not a problem.Takes couple of months or so,the problem starts when you don't get any visitors on the site.Basically,no one will.You need to put a lot of money and efforts for advertisement.If you don't have that kind of money,there is no point in getting the site up.Did I forget to mention the house investment ? Oh that's the most important part..

If you have time and you want to see it , I can PM you my idea.

For advertisement :  How about  referral program?
If people will understand that it's profitable, they will engage in self-promotion : video on YouTube , social networks with bonus codes etc.
Maybe giveaways or competitions for active users.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Snorek on July 21, 2016, 03:54:48 PM
Well, it is very hard to came up with new concept for PvP gambling where players could fight each others is fair environment and house could profit from it at the same time.
I've seen many people who claimed that they figured this concept out. Most of them are coping old schemes with minor twists, which is not interesting for the most part.

So he is my question: do you know any successful PvP gambling site based on unique concept?


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 21, 2016, 04:01:17 PM
Well, it is very hard to came up with new concept for PvP gambling where players could fight each others is fair environment and house could profit from it at the same time.
I've seen many people who claimed that they figured this concept out. Most of them are coping old schemes with minor twists, which is not interesting for the most part.

So he is my question: do you know any successful PvP gambling site based on unique concept?

My own ? Or just for example ? If for example , I know a lot of successful PvP sites, but they all not accept Bitcoin or USD/RUR.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Snorek on July 21, 2016, 04:08:23 PM
Well, it is very hard to came up with new concept for PvP gambling where players could fight each others is fair environment and house could profit from it at the same time.
I've seen many people who claimed that they figured this concept out. Most of them are coping old schemes with minor twists, which is not interesting for the most part.

So he is my question: do you know any successful PvP gambling site based on unique concept?

My own ? Or just for example ? If for example , I know a lot of successful PvP sites, but they all not accept Bitcoin or USD/RUR.
I was asking about legitimate, provably fair bitcoin powered gambling PvP sites. Because from what I know we don't have examples worth mentioning here.
I am not counting Poker rooms or any game of similar nature.

Maybe we don't see many successful PvP bitcoin gambling initiatives because bitcoin crowd is not interested in PvP aspect at all?
In that case, even if your idea would be very nice, bitcoiners will just gonna ignore it as usual. What I mean - it is very tough to introduce a catchy new game...


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 21, 2016, 04:18:22 PM
Well, it is very hard to came up with new concept for PvP gambling where players could fight each others is fair environment and house could profit from it at the same time.
I've seen many people who claimed that they figured this concept out. Most of them are coping old schemes with minor twists, which is not interesting for the most part.

So he is my question: do you know any successful PvP gambling site based on unique concept?

My own ? Or just for example ? If for example , I know a lot of successful PvP sites, but they all not accept Bitcoin or USD/RUR.
I was asking about legitimate, provably fair bitcoin powered gambling PvP sites. Because from what I know we don't have examples worth mentioning here.
I am not counting Poker rooms or any game of similar nature.

Maybe we don't see many successful PvP bitcoin gambling initiatives because bitcoin crowd is not interested in PvP aspect at all?
In that case, even if your idea would be very nice, bitcoiners will just gonna ignore it as usual. What I mean - it is very tough to introduce a catchy new game...


There are tons of dice sites, it would be hard to compete against them , but I think that PVP gambling is the future of Bitcoin gambling.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 21, 2016, 04:21:46 PM
There are tons of dice sites, it would be hard to compete against them , but I think that PVP gambling is the future of Bitcoin gambling.
A few days back,I saw a PVP gambling website shut down due to lack of players and they didn't have enough funds for the advertisement.Although they ran a signature campaign for a week,it was never enough.Let me tell you,the website had potential and very good graphics indeed.But that's not everything..


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 21, 2016, 04:32:45 PM
There are tons of dice sites, it would be hard to compete against them , but I think that PVP gambling is the future of Bitcoin gambling.
A few days back,I saw a PVP gambling website shut down due to lack of players and they didn't have enough funds for the advertisement.Although they ran a signature campaign for a week,it was never enough.Let me tell you,the website had potential and very good graphics indeed.But that's not everything..

So , first I should think about what will attract people to my website ?


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 21, 2016, 04:37:59 PM
There are tons of dice sites, it would be hard to compete against them , but I think that PVP gambling is the future of Bitcoin gambling.
A few days back,I saw a PVP gambling website shut down due to lack of players and they didn't have enough funds for the advertisement.Although they ran a signature campaign for a week,it was never enough.Let me tell you,the website had potential and very good graphics indeed.But that's not everything..

So , first I should think about what will attract people to my website ?
Telling you,lock the thread for now.Plan a proper business model,see if you can raise investments/find investors.Propose your idea to a few trusted sources and see what they have to say.Afterall,its not as simple as it sounds.Most of the reputed casinos I know aren't owned by a single person,mostly multiple founders and co-owners.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: socks435 on July 21, 2016, 04:59:05 PM
I heard many people are offering before here  in our forum but he just looking for investors .. or partner..
If you have a good idea maybe someone will partner to you but you need to invest to him.
And take a profit for future earnings.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: smho_16 on July 21, 2016, 06:54:33 PM
I have seen a lot of other threads where many people post concepts like yours in gambling or games and rounds. You should go there find these persons and send them PM if they haven't contacted you already. Your idea is very good but first you have to knock out the competition which is big or else this won't work.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Newcoins2020 on July 21, 2016, 06:55:07 PM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ? 

I am a dev. and these projects consume a lot of time. I know this from experience. Problem is then that a failure (which can happen) will cost the developer more timewise then you.
Offering a fixed fee and an X percentage of the income is the best way to start it.

- Happy developer, which is always good
- Dedicated developer, who will stay with you fixing problems since he has an incentive.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 21, 2016, 09:12:39 PM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ?  

I am a dev. and these projects consume a lot of time. I know this from experience. Problem is then that a failure (which can happen) will cost the developer more timewise then you.
Offering a fixed fee and an X percentage of the income is the best way to start it.

- Happy developer, which is always good
- Dedicated developer, who will stay with you fixing problems since he has an incentive.

How much should be this  "fixed fee" ?


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Newcoins2020 on July 21, 2016, 09:31:32 PM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ? 

I am a dev. and these projects consume a lot of time. I know this from experience. Problem is then that a failure (which can happen) will cost the developer more timewise then you.
Offering a fixed fee and an X percentage of the income is the best way to start it.

- Happy developer, which is always good
- Dedicated developer, who will stay with you fixing problems since he has an incentive.

How much should be this  "fixed fee" ?

Depends on the project.
Suppose the project is estimate at 10k.
I would find a 2.5k fixed fee reasonable.

If the project is 1k,  250 usd should get you some medior to sr. developers working on it.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: AcoinL.L.C on July 21, 2016, 10:24:17 PM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ?  

I am a dev. and these projects consume a lot of time. I know this from experience. Problem is then that a failure (which can happen) will cost the developer more timewise then you.
Offering a fixed fee and an X percentage of the income is the best way to start it.

- Happy developer, which is always good
- Dedicated developer, who will stay with you fixing problems since he has an incentive.

How much should be this  "fixed fee" ?


If you can't afford a few hundred bucks on development you probably shouldn't be starting the game. Good servers cost money, let alone any marketing/promotions


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: senyorito123 on July 21, 2016, 11:12:51 PM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ?  

I am a dev. and these projects consume a lot of time. I know this from experience. Problem is then that a failure (which can happen) will cost the developer more timewise then you.
Offering a fixed fee and an X percentage of the income is the best way to start it.

- Happy developer, which is always good
- Dedicated developer, who will stay with you fixing problems since he has an incentive.

How much should be this  "fixed fee" ?


If you can't afford a few hundred bucks on development you probably shouldn't be starting the game. Good servers cost money, let alone any marketing/promotions

Yes if OP giving percentage only i think no one would really help him since they cannot gaurantee that they can earn with their works thats why OP you gotta give them fix salary so they  will accept those job you want and as LLC said it will cost you many bucks to run this things out since you've gotta need to pay advertisement for it so it can get exposure.

Other than that maybe hired them to became mod also so you can have people to monitor the site time to time and they can fix the issue easily if they see it or they are occuring since they are the maker of it.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 22, 2016, 04:32:47 AM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ? 

I am a dev. and these projects consume a lot of time. I know this from experience. Problem is then that a failure (which can happen) will cost the developer more timewise then you.
Offering a fixed fee and an X percentage of the income is the best way to start it.

- Happy developer, which is always good
- Dedicated developer, who will stay with you fixing problems since he has an incentive.

How much should be this  "fixed fee" ?

Depends on the project.
Suppose the project is estimate at 10k.
I would find a 2.5k fixed fee reasonable.

If the project is 1k,  250 usd should get you some medior to sr. developers working on it.

Well, thanks for advice.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Financial_Genius on July 22, 2016, 04:46:02 AM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ?  

I am a dev. and these projects consume a lot of time. I know this from experience. Problem is then that a failure (which can happen) will cost the developer more timewise then you.
Offering a fixed fee and an X percentage of the income is the best way to start it.

- Happy developer, which is always good
- Dedicated developer, who will stay with you fixing problems since he has an incentive.

How much should be this  "fixed fee" ?


If you can't afford a few hundred bucks on development you probably shouldn't be starting the game. Good servers cost money, let alone any marketing/promotions

Then, if it's good idea , maybe I should try find an small investor?


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: JasonXG on July 25, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
I have an idea for PvP gambling, it's possible to find here devs willing work for % from future profit ?  

Yes it is very possible but you need to bring more to the table then simply an idea. You are going to have to have a game plan and offer a bit more than that. You will need to start making this idea a reality. A Dev won't work for you when it comes to something like this they want to work with you. But I do think its a good idea so good luck with that.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: Lexiatel on July 26, 2016, 02:50:02 AM
When I was looking into something similar that would be free to play, it was going to cost 600-800 dollars in just the programming alone. Obviously, you'll need someone to stick around (who's trusted) to keep things functioning and add new stuff (when games stop updating, the players stop coming).

Start small, grow slowly. Work on updates; do not release everything at once.

And remember, you're going to have to have images too, and unless you are an artist, this too will cost you money (and that's not cheap either, if you want everything all uniformed; you're going to need a couple artists.).

Most of those popular gaming sites are never done by someone who's not a programmer. The programmer, who is a beginner at coding, is practicing his skills, and can do so with games. When you include money into it though, things get a lot more hectic.


Title: Re: JUST INTERESTED.
Post by: FFrankie on July 26, 2016, 02:58:58 AM
I would bet stupid amounts of coins on a moba style 1v1, 3v3, or 5v5. If you could rip everything from league or dota2