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Title: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: paulbkwok on July 25, 2016, 08:50:50 AM Been a loyal member on betcoin.tm for over a year now and havnt had too many problens withdrawing my winnings but always had to wait for a rep to manually do it when cash out is suppose to be automatic. It's been 2 days now and I've been trying to withdraw my winnings of over $20,000 but I can't get a hold of any of the reps after several emails also through Skype and Telegram.
Here's some pictures to show proof: https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdbb1fe77.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cda0b0243.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdef15046.png I feel like I won too much off a $1000 deposit. :( Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: XERES on July 25, 2016, 08:55:00 AM Been a loyal member on betcoin.tm for over a year now and havnt had too many problens withdrawing my winnings but always had to wait for a rep to manually do it when cash out is suppose to be automatic. It's been 2 days now and I've been trying to withdraw my winnings of over $20,000 but I can't get a hold of any of the reps after several emails also through Skype and Telegram. The owner have scam accusations against betcointm (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573) last active is June 14, probably busy or dunno but better you don't gamble on betcoin again, See the trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=142573) anyway good luck getting your withdraw.Here's some pictures to show proof: https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdbb1fe77.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cda0b0243.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdef15046.png I feel like I won too much off a $1000 deposit. :( Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: trafficolaa on July 25, 2016, 09:02:28 AM It seems you missed to read that topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1437638.0 scam accusations against the owner, so that it looking you've no chance to get paid in that kind of situation, when everything going bad with this casino and this is very big amount that you have been won there.
Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: Bitinity on July 25, 2016, 09:08:46 AM That's a huge amount of money but too bad you deposited your $1000 and won that amount in wrong place imho. Have you tried to talk with the live support (if they are still alive)?
Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: csnorthchina on July 25, 2016, 09:19:51 AM sad to hear that, there are some other forum members can't cash out from this site too...
not looking good man :-\ Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: philiveyjr on July 25, 2016, 09:34:22 AM Another reason that when you wish to gamble huge amounts of money, you shouldn't do that on an online casino. 20K is probably much more than what they will ever earn through normal means.
Start a scam accusation with all the proof, and also post on other sites to bring it to other people's attention. Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: paulbkwok on July 25, 2016, 09:59:51 AM Yeah its sad because I've deposited over 15k on this site and always had a problem when I need to cash out large amounts. Should have learned by now :\
Another reason that when you wish to gamble huge amounts of money, you shouldn't do that on an online casino. 20K is probably much more than what they will ever earn through normal means. Start a scam accusation with all the proof, and also post on other sites to bring it to other people's attention. Not enough rep if someone helps me get this withdrawn I will personally give them a free btc! Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: shadobitz on July 25, 2016, 10:23:00 AM Not enough rep if someone helps me get this withdrawn I will personally give them a free btc! I don't think anybody on this forum can help you to get withdraw from site instead of owner of this casino, while this casino already had so many problems before this, than sorry to this there is very smart about this you'll be get paid or even will get back your deposited money back. Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: rambeazle on July 25, 2016, 11:13:24 AM This is a known scam site
Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: Curious8 on July 25, 2016, 11:16:03 AM Been a loyal member on betcoin.tm for over a year now and havnt had too many problens withdrawing my winnings but always had to wait for a rep to manually do it when cash out is suppose to be automatic. It's been 2 days now and I've been trying to withdraw my winnings of over $20,000 but I can't get a hold of any of the reps after several emails also through Skype and Telegram. Here's some pictures to show proof: https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdbb1fe77.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cda0b0243.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdef15046.png I feel like I won too much off a $1000 deposit. :( very nice winning and its probably the case Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: iv4n on July 25, 2016, 11:21:39 AM You are not the only one who have this kind of situation with betcoin.tm. They were good and I liked their site, awesome promotions, bonuses, poker room with good prizes, but in one moment everything disappeared. They are even not bitcoin gambling site, few months ago they changed to dollars, and you can deposit bitcoins but you play with dollars. Before they had 100 satoshi minimum bet, now its 1 dollar. That is too much for me, and my they didn't give 50 $ in bitcoins to my friend. After his trying and mine, nothing happened. Balance is 0 and support is never online, its like that 2 months.
Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: Gustavv on July 25, 2016, 12:49:46 PM Some members get same experience with you
try to contact customer service oftenly i have get same experience but after contact customer service its clear but have to wait for long time their work so slow for withdrawal :( Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: Mediator on July 25, 2016, 12:50:04 PM Been a loyal member on betcoin.tm for over a year now and havnt had too many problens withdrawing my winnings but always had to wait for a rep to manually do it when cash out is suppose to be automatic. It's been 2 days now and I've been trying to withdraw my winnings of over $20,000 but I can't get a hold of any of the reps after several emails also through Skype and Telegram. Here's some pictures to show proof: https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdbb1fe77.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cda0b0243.png https://i.imgsafe.org/5cdef15046.png I feel like I won too much off a $1000 deposit. :( How did you do that I mean a deposit of $ 1000 and win $ 21,000 might just as they wonder and investigate your bets they suspect a fraud that require inspection IMO. but whatever the reason at least they should respond to your email do not ignore your problem. Pity they offer lots of promotions but the withdrawal process is very slow Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: spartak_t on July 25, 2016, 01:10:40 PM That's too bad. The sum is indeed a big one. Will try to help you via Twitter.
Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: jackg on July 25, 2016, 11:17:00 PM There are at least 3 other users that have reported the same thing. All when their balance is greater than 10BTC.
It's starting to look like they are tryig to block large withdrawals so that people still play, and then put large amounts in and lose it. It's very suprising that they'd do this now as they have recently updated their site and everything on it and sounded like they wanted to develop it further. Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: paulbkwok on July 25, 2016, 11:33:11 PM There are at least 3 other users that have reported the same thing. All when their balance is greater than 10BTC. It's starting to look like they are tryig to block large withdrawals so that people still play, and then put large amounts in and lose it. It's very suprising that they'd do this now as they have recently updated their site and everything on it and sounded like they wanted to develop it further. So how's it looking in your opinion ? Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: jackg on July 25, 2016, 11:39:13 PM There are at least 3 other users that have reported the same thing. All when their balance is greater than 10BTC. It's starting to look like they are tryig to block large withdrawals so that people still play, and then put large amounts in and lose it. It's very suprising that they'd do this now as they have recently updated their site and everything on it and sounded like they wanted to develop it further. So how's it looking in your opinion ? It's fair to say, your money is gone! Usually they claim to freeze funds and then review what they were gambled on. They have previously frozen funds on two other users and then just deleting them saying it is fraud. If you are in a country like the UK, US, Canada, Australia or another country where Bitcoin is classed as a currency, you can take them to court as terms and conditions are not legal contracts and if they claim you have had multiple accounts, they can't rob the money from you anyway. The legal fees are probably worth it for $20,000 and if you get a lawyer on something like a no-win-no-fee case basis, then you are most likely to get some of the money back! (usually court fees are quite small in most cases, the high court in the UK only charge £1000 for a court case and betcoin.tm will be forced to pay this if they lose)! Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: paulbkwok on July 25, 2016, 11:48:24 PM There are at least 3 other users that have reported the same thing. All when their balance is greater than 10BTC. It's starting to look like they are tryig to block large withdrawals so that people still play, and then put large amounts in and lose it. It's very suprising that they'd do this now as they have recently updated their site and everything on it and sounded like they wanted to develop it further. So how's it looking in your opinion ? It's fair to say, your money is gone! Usually they claim to freeze funds and then review what they were gambled on. They have previously frozen funds on two other users and then just deleting them saying it is fraud. If you are in a country like the UK, US, Canada, Australia or another country where Bitcoin is classed as a currency, you can take them to court as terms and conditions are not legal contracts and if they claim you have had multiple accounts, they can't rob the money from you anyway. The legal fees are probably worth it for $20,000 and if you get a lawyer on something like a no-win-no-fee case basis, then you are most likely to get some of the money back! (usually court fees are quite small in most cases, the high court in the UK only charge £1000 for a court case and betcoin.tm will be forced to pay this if they lose)! OK thank you I have full conversation with the admin on Skype and Telegram, do you advice me to show all conversation and make it public to everyone for their own safety and risk of being scammed? And will this honestly hold off in court? I cannot log into my account anymore Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: jackg on July 25, 2016, 11:59:15 PM There are at least 3 other users that have reported the same thing. All when their balance is greater than 10BTC. It's starting to look like they are tryig to block large withdrawals so that people still play, and then put large amounts in and lose it. It's very suprising that they'd do this now as they have recently updated their site and everything on it and sounded like they wanted to develop it further. So how's it looking in your opinion ? It's fair to say, your money is gone! Usually they claim to freeze funds and then review what they were gambled on. They have previously frozen funds on two other users and then just deleting them saying it is fraud. If you are in a country like the UK, US, Canada, Australia or another country where Bitcoin is classed as a currency, you can take them to court as terms and conditions are not legal contracts and if they claim you have had multiple accounts, they can't rob the money from you anyway. The legal fees are probably worth it for $20,000 and if you get a lawyer on something like a no-win-no-fee case basis, then you are most likely to get some of the money back! (usually court fees are quite small in most cases, the high court in the UK only charge £1000 for a court case and betcoin.tm will be forced to pay this if they lose)! OK thank you I have full conversation with the admin on Skype and Telegram, do you advice me to show all conversation and make it public to everyone for their own safety and risk of being scammed? And will this honestly hold off in court? I cannot log into my account anymore This is the admin's address (I think); Quote Owner Name : Massive Luck Investments Limited Owner OrgName : Massive Luck Investments Limited Owner Addr : 66F, The Center, 99 Queen's Rd. Central, Hong Kong Owner Addr : Hong Kong Though that may be the company different to the owner. If you publish the conversations then that might work in court if you can find the right information. Usually police can track this incormation if you head to your local police station and give them some information on it they may be able to take over with the investigations if you hand all of your information to them? Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: PhilPrime on July 26, 2016, 12:05:56 AM i think this is the start of the fall of betcoin casino. there trust as a casino is starting to deteriorate. a lot of issue they can never handle and there signature campaign is also facing a problem lately. i think it is wise to avoid there casino for now. the owner must clear first there reputation before they started operating their casino , more or less they will be listed in the scam site if they never fix this many scam accusation. keep safe
Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: lrdeoliveira on July 26, 2016, 11:00:00 AM Betcoin.tm. one of the most 'bad gambling sites of history also graphically speaking, how do you trust a site that seems made by a twelve year old guy?
Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 26, 2016, 12:10:31 PM Been a loyal member on betcoin.tm for over a year now and havnt had too many problens withdrawing my winnings but always had to wait for a rep to manually do it when cash out is suppose to be automatic. It's been 2 days now and I've been trying to withdraw my winnings of over $20,000 but I can't get a hold of any of the reps after several emails also through Skype and Telegram. Been a year since you're playing at betcoin.tm and its quite captivating to see you haven't been scammed before.Well,this is your day,embrace it.Betcoin.tm is a scam casino,you should have figured out that way before.Check the DT ratings left on their profile by the DT members.Several times accused of cheating and stealing money.On the other hand,why do I feel like you're another betcoin.tm shill trying to promote them somehow ?We all know the tactics here.Here's the profile of their owner/manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573 try messaging him if in case your accusations are real.Here's some pictures to show proof: I feel like I won too much off a $1000 deposit. :( Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: mrhelpful on July 26, 2016, 09:18:31 PM I wouldnt touch a new unknown gambling site - and this is my 1st time hearing about them..
So my level of touching a casino needs to be in business for minmum of 2 years if they want my money lol. But even then you`ll never really know if a operator goes rogue one day on you.. so its your level of risk what you can lose at the end of the day. Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: jackg on July 26, 2016, 11:14:34 PM I wouldnt touch a new unknown gambling site - and this is my 1st time hearing about them.. So my level of touching a casino needs to be in business for minmum of 2 years if they want my money lol. But even then you`ll never really know if a operator goes rogue one day on you.. so its your level of risk what you can lose at the end of the day. It is a fairly well known gambling site! The account betcointm has been here for a while promoting his business and they have a signature campaign. I think it has been going for over two years as well if te OP found it over a year ago possibly. Betcoin.tm. one of the most 'bad gambling sites of history also graphically speaking, how do you trust a site that seems made by a twelve year old guy? The user betcointm on this forum was also accused previously of starting a DDoS attack agains the forum (look at his trust for more information). He has also been found to log into to the support ticket answering under two different names (one female and one male, probably to make his business look less like a one-man thing)! Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: paulbkwok on July 26, 2016, 11:37:24 PM I wouldnt touch a new unknown gambling site - and this is my 1st time hearing about them.. So my level of touching a casino needs to be in business for minmum of 2 years if they want my money lol. But even then you`ll never really know if a operator goes rogue one day on you.. so its your level of risk what you can lose at the end of the day. It is a fairly well known gambling site! The account betcointm has been here for a while promoting his business and they have a signature campaign. I think it has been going for over two years as well if te OP found it over a year ago possibly. Betcoin.tm. one of the most 'bad gambling sites of history also graphically speaking, how do you trust a site that seems made by a twelve year old guy? The user betcointm on this forum was also accused previously of starting a DDoS attack agains the forum (look at his trust for more information). He has also been found to log into to the support ticket answering under two different names (one female and one male, probably to make his business look less like a one-man thing)! Thanks for your help. This shit is so screwed up. Especially bring ignored :\ Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: jackg on July 27, 2016, 12:00:45 AM I wouldnt touch a new unknown gambling site - and this is my 1st time hearing about them.. So my level of touching a casino needs to be in business for minmum of 2 years if they want my money lol. But even then you`ll never really know if a operator goes rogue one day on you.. so its your level of risk what you can lose at the end of the day. It is a fairly well known gambling site! The account betcointm has been here for a while promoting his business and they have a signature campaign. I think it has been going for over two years as well if te OP found it over a year ago possibly. Betcoin.tm. one of the most 'bad gambling sites of history also graphically speaking, how do you trust a site that seems made by a twelve year old guy? The user betcointm on this forum was also accused previously of starting a DDoS attack agains the forum (look at his trust for more information). He has also been found to log into to the support ticket answering under two different names (one female and one male, probably to make his business look less like a one-man thing)! Thanks for your help. This shit is so screwed up. Especially bring ignored :\ Don't expect a response on this forum, from what I remember, he hasn't been online since May when he got -3 on his trust. It will be hard to track him down as he has probably mainly goneoffline, if you have another IP avaliable, you could always try to make a newaccount on that IP and try to resolve the issue by making a new account and asking him? Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: LLec on July 30, 2016, 08:00:03 AM I wouldnt touch a new unknown gambling site - and this is my 1st time hearing about them.. So my level of touching a casino needs to be in business for minmum of 2 years if they want my money lol. But even then you`ll never really know if a operator goes rogue one day on you.. so its your level of risk what you can lose at the end of the day. It is a fairly well known gambling site! The account betcointm has been here for a while promoting his business and they have a signature campaign. I think it has been going for over two years as well if te OP found it over a year ago possibly. Betcoin.tm. one of the most 'bad gambling sites of history also graphically speaking, how do you trust a site that seems made by a twelve year old guy? The user betcointm on this forum was also accused previously of starting a DDoS attack agains the forum (look at his trust for more information). He has also been found to log into to the support ticket answering under two different names (one female and one male, probably to make his business look less like a one-man thing)! Thanks for your help. This shit is so screwed up. Especially bring ignored :\ Don't expect a response on this forum, from what I remember, he hasn't been online since May when he got -3 on his trust. It will be hard to track him down as he has probably mainly goneoffline, if you have another IP avaliable, you could always try to make a newaccount on that IP and try to resolve the issue by making a new account and asking him? Seems completely disappeared! Last Active: June 14, 2016, 02:57:36 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142573 As I can see, -4 as negative trust! Title: Re: Betcoin.tm not cashing out my winnings (over $20,000) 2 days now still no answer Post by: TwitchySeal on July 30, 2016, 09:00:37 AM These guys are true scum. Wish I knew a way to help you OP, all I have is info on how scummy they are.
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