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Title: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: gorgon666 on August 05, 2016, 11:00:26 AM
Let it be known that the very same person who stole millions from Inputs.io and CoinLenders now has multiple moderators on his payroll.

It was just yesterday that TradeFortress paid two moderators, Lauda and Mitchełł

Just look at the txid to Mitchełł (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/261ddf28962974936ee4fb715b152bb883355d1a3841d1aadfcefc2d9b61c327), and to Lauda (http://1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD).

With at least two moderators on the payroll of TradeFortress, you should no longer trust anything that happens here.

Expect to get censored if you are critical of one of TradeFortress' business ventures.

Expect a false sense of trust to be given to business ventures of TradeFortress.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Jhanzo on August 05, 2016, 11:07:49 AM
If I send 1BTC to theymos from a known—sorry, suspected address of mine without saying anything and create a new account announcing it, will I become theymos' boss?


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: dogie on August 05, 2016, 11:14:23 AM
If I send 1BTC to theymos from a known—sorry, suspected address of mine without saying anything and create a new account announcing it, will I become theymos' boss?

Yes that's how it works, then I send 0.001btc to you and I'm your boss. Its Bribing Simulator 2017.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: gorgon666 on August 05, 2016, 11:16:52 AM
If I send 1BTC to theymos from a known—sorry, suspected address of mine without saying anything and create a new account announcing it, will I become theymos' boss?
Both of the addresses are known to belong to both Lauda and Mitchełł. Just look at each of their profiles, each address is listed there.

What else do you think the payments might have been for?


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: rackam on August 05, 2016, 11:17:58 AM
If I send 1BTC to theymos from a known—sorry, suspected address of mine without saying anything and create a new account announcing it, will I become theymos' boss?
Both of the addresses are known to belong to both Lauda and Mitchełł. Just look at each of their profiles, each address is listed there.

What else do you think the payments might have been for?

You are just jealous no one gives you.  :D


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Jhanzo on August 05, 2016, 11:23:10 AM
If I send 1BTC to theymos from a known—sorry, suspected address of mine without saying anything and create a new account announcing it, will I become theymos' boss?
Both of the addresses are known to belong to both Lauda and Mitchełł. Just look at each of their profiles, each address is listed there.

What else do you think the payments might have been for?

No, I know those bitcoins was sent to their address, so it's for them.  What I don't know is why the owner of that address sent it.  Was it to pay/bribe Lauda/Mitchel or troll us?  The guy made a 1000BTC giveaway thread without giving a single penny to anyone else (afaik. I dropped the thread after the 500th reply or so).

Edit:
Huh.  The giveaway is one week away.  Missed that part.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: minifrij on August 05, 2016, 11:24:24 AM
You should really go and see a doctor; paranoia like this surely isn't good for you.

Let it be known that the very same person who stole millions from Inputs.io and CoinLenders now has multiple moderators on his payroll.
TIL a one time donation is now equal to being on a payroll, and further ruling over another user.

It was just yesterday that TradeFortress paid two moderators, Lauda and Mitchełł
Just look at the txid to Mitchełł (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/261ddf28962974936ee4fb715b152bb883355d1a3841d1aadfcefc2d9b61c327), and to Lauda (http://1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD).
As well as several others that happened to be in the right place at the right time. It's almost like the payment wasn't specifically made to those moderators, but simply to people that asked for it.
Also, http://1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD isn't a valid link.

With at least two moderators on the payroll of TradeFortress, you should no longer trust anything that happens here.
Expect to get censored if you are critical of one of TradeFortress' business ventures.
Alright let's test this theory. TradeFortress was an incompetent asshat who is directly responsible for the loss of millions of dollars, almost all of which belonged to his customers. He was not suitable to run any sort of web service that handled other people's money, let alone an online wallet.
Now, let's see how long this post takes to be removed shall we? ::)

Expect a false sense of trust to be given to business ventures of TradeFortress.
You can tell by his -9999 trust rating that he his seen in a great light on this forum and is considered to be extremely trustworthy.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: bitkilo on August 05, 2016, 11:33:23 AM
Although this forum is not a political party and should not have to explain where all their donations come from when something like this pops up is does raise some questions. 1000btc is no small amount.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Lauda on August 05, 2016, 11:35:23 AM
Although this forum is not a political party and should not have to explain where all their donations come from when something like this pops up is does raise some questions. 1000btc is no small amount.
What does the forum have to do with that 1000 BTC? We are talking about a total amount of 3 BTC that we received because we were in the IRC chatroom (along with several other people) where this person showed up.

Yes that's how it works, then I send 0.001btc to you and I'm your boss. Its Bribing Simulator 2017.
A minimum of 1 BTC is required for you to be my boss, did you not know that?


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Mitchell on August 05, 2016, 11:40:41 AM
No, I know those bitcoins was sent to their address, so it's for them.  What I don't know is why the owner of that address sent it.  Was it to pay/bribe Lauda/Mitchel or troll us?  The guy made a 1000BTC giveaway thread without giving a single penny to anyone else (afaik. I dropped the thread after the 500th reply or so).
We were just a few of the people who responded to the giveaway that happened on #bitcoin-otc before the guy came to Bitcointalk (http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2016/08/03#l1470229157.0). There are other forum members that got some BTC as well. Does that make us all TF shills? I highly doubt it. :)

To be fair, my "payment" comes from an input that isn't even linked to TF, but to a Huobi address as it comes from the first 25BTC that was transferred in and not from the ~1000BTC from 2013.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: dogie on August 05, 2016, 11:42:33 AM
Yes that's how it works, then I send 0.001btc to you and I'm your boss. Its Bribing Simulator 2017.
A minimum of 1 BTC is required for you to be my boss, did you not know that?

You answer to Jhanzo, but he now answers to me because he set no minimum!


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: hilariousandco on August 05, 2016, 12:06:41 PM
Why hasn't anyone offered me a bribe?  ??? (address is in profile)

If that money did come from tradefortress he's probably just dishing it out to fuck with people. If they were actually taking bribes though they would likely have been a little more inconspicuous about it but also probably wouldn't jeopardize their standing here for a coin or two.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: ndnh on August 05, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
If I send 1BTC to theymos from a known—sorry, suspected address of mine without saying anything and create a new account announcing it, will I become theymos' boss?

LOL. Well said. :D


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 05, 2016, 12:47:01 PM
I wonder if TradeFortress is still here on some other unknown alt, I'd say he almost certainly is.

What's the latest with people trying to sue him?


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: suchmoon on August 05, 2016, 01:23:18 PM
TradeFortress is a piece of shit scammer.

There, I lost my chance to win 1000 BTC just so I could test this theory. I expect to be banned any minute now.



Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: james.lent on August 05, 2016, 01:26:10 PM
TradeFortress is a piece of shit scammer.

There, I lost my chance to win 1000 BTC just so I could test this theory. I expect to be banned any minute now.



Anytime now, theymos gonna be like....

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/280/870/870280.gif



Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Quickseller on August 05, 2016, 01:34:45 PM
What's the latest with people trying to sue him?
I have no clue if anyone is working on pressing charges against TF or not, however I understand that the statute of limitations is coming due in regards to the inputs incident very soon.

I have no clue if anyone has started the process of trying to sue him or not. I know that real blazr has his Dox, but contacting real blazr is somewhat complicated now; I know know that blazr has said that he will only give out TFs Dox to law enforcement or an attorney filing suit.

I think Mitchell's response to the incident is very mature and probably the most appropriate -- he clearly did not know that the funds were stolen when he received the BTC (they still may not be stolen) and has publicly said that he will return the BTC he received if anyone can provide clear proof that the BTC was stolen from them.

Lauda on the other hand has basically said that he doesn't care if the BTC was stolen and has said that he does not care how receiving this BTC looks to outsiders.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: whywefight on August 05, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
where can i signup to get some funds? if you feel bad send all the monies to meeee :D


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: tspacepilot on August 05, 2016, 04:18:03 PM
For those who aren't otherwise aware: gorgon666 (the OP) is an alt of Quickseller.  This thread seems to be part of QS' current shenanigans.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: suchmoon on August 05, 2016, 04:51:38 PM
Lauda is now on the payroll of TradeFortress, the infamous inputs.io/coinlenders scammer.

Today Lauda received (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/d327f15d2b43401c2bc63a3b0880b3b97bff9eddeee1b59d4dfe7537fbb563dd) at least 1 bitcoin from TradeFortress.

Lauda, what is your roll in working for TradeFortress?

Wasn't there a joint venture between yourself and TF?
No. I would never do business with Trade Fortress. It was clear for a long time that he was a long con, before even Inputs.io opened. Now he has the moderators on his payroll.

You may have accidentally removed part of my post from your quote. That's probably what's causing the confusion. Here it is again:

Wasn't there a joint venture between yourself and TF?

Edit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1179238.msg12406963#msg12406963

And here is a full quote from the link above in case you can't click on it for some reason:

Quote
@Quickseller, I'll contribute 20 BTC towards a civil lawsuit against Vod. One of his email addresses is mlawrence02@yahoo.com , as given here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1070760#msg1070760

You may be able to subpoena Yahoo Canada for his IP address (via a John Doe-style civil suit), and then subpoena the ISP for account holder details.
If you are serious about this then please PM me contact details and I will get you a PGP signed address to send to.
Great! Please email me at admin@glados.cc; a PGP clearsigned message will do. Thanks!
sent.

edit: 20 BTC received

It also doesn't look like you've ever made any attempt to warn anyone about TF's "long con". Such a horrendous oversight for a scam buster like yourself, isn't it?


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Backside walkaround on August 05, 2016, 05:02:57 PM
I get the suspicion here, but I'm skeptical to say the least.   What would TF's motivation be here for paying mods?  It just doesn't make sense that they would make it this transparent.  I would definitely like to hear what they have to say about it, because a known scammer sending money to mods does seem weird.  Then again it's not my business.

Edit:  Sorry Lauda, I had the reply screen up and went away from this thread, and you and mitchell posted in the interim.  Your explanation makes sense, is a simple one, and I no longer have any suspicions about this.  I'm not trying to shitpost, even tht I'm in a campaign.   


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Lauda on August 05, 2016, 05:13:43 PM
Lauda on the other hand has basically said that he doesn't care if the BTC was stolen and has said that he does not care how receiving this BTC looks to outsiders.
Tl;dr: It's none of your business what I do with it. Unless contacted by law enforcement, I have the right to do what I want with the money (this goes for every single person that received a donation).

I get the suspicion here, but I'm skeptical to say the least.   What would TF's motivation be here for paying mods?  It just doesn't make sense that they would make it this transparent.  I would definitely like to hear what they have to say about it, because a known scammer sending money to mods does seem weird.  Then again it's not my business.
We have both replied on the previous page. It seems to me that you've just posted in order to up your post count.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: anonymoustroll420 on August 05, 2016, 05:25:23 PM
Tl;dr: It's none of your business what I do with it. Unless contacted by law enforcement, I have the right to do what I want with the money (this goes for every single person that received a donation).

I totally agree, however it speaks volumes about your character when you are knowingly accepting donations of stolen BTC. Knowingly accepting stolen property is a crime in most countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods though in your case this would be a grey area due to the low value of the property, however if you were to knowingly accept stolen donations of a value over $5,000 that is likely (IANAL) a very serious federal crime where most people convicted of it are imprisoned..


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Lauda on August 05, 2016, 05:27:25 PM
I totally agree, however it speaks volumes about your character when you are knowingly accepting donations of stolen BTC. Knowingly accepting stolen property is a crime in most countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods though in your case this would be a grey area due to the low value of the property, however if you were to knowingly accept stolen donations of a value over $5,000 that is likely a very serious federal crime..
That's not entirely correct because:
a) I did not ask anyone to deposit to 1Lauda.
b) There is only speculative proof that they may be stolen coin. There's no conclusive proof as to the origin of the Bitcoin. People need to stop claiming that they're stolen just because they originate from 2013 and may be tied to TF (in my case).
In Mitchell's case it is even less likely that they are stolen as they originate from a completely different input (not the 2013 one).

Which comes back to:
Unless contacted by law enforcement


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: gorgon666 on August 06, 2016, 08:11:41 AM
The moderators should go on the record to say the exact reason why they received these payments. If they refuse then everyone has every reason to be suspicious of the moderators.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: Gumballinabattleaxeninja on August 06, 2016, 05:15:10 PM
Well I have to say, this place is better than any reality show and most organized ones.  Keep up the spice of life so we, us, and they have something to converse and dispute over.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: eddie13 on August 08, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Well I have to say, this place is better than any reality show and most organized ones. 

Yeah this section is usually some of the most entertaining stuff on the board, and scam accusations..


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: tspacepilot on August 08, 2016, 11:40:55 PM
Well I have to say, this place is better than any reality show and most organized ones. 

Yeah this section is usually some of the most entertaining stuff on the board, and scam accusations..

I admit that I used to find Quickseller's trolling and drammatic shenanigans pretty entertaining until I found myself to be the victim of it.  Nowadays I find it a lot less funny.


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: defcon23 on August 09, 2016, 07:16:31 PM
where can i signup to get some funds? if you feel bad send all the monies to meeee :D

sure !  ;D  everyone should have part of this cake !!

https://i.imgur.com/foNRJlD.gif

TF ! dont forget my wallet !


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: otrkid70 on August 09, 2016, 11:07:43 PM
It's a conspiracy! They are all part of the 13 inbred European Bloodlines of the Terrorist organization Illuminati


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: coin@coin on August 10, 2016, 12:50:48 AM
Both Lauda and Mitchell are well known forum members and mods.
I wish I got some coins sent to me!

So well done to them to post in the right place at the right time.

A bit like the duck and the photographer below :)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Manzy/A%20New%20Funny%20Album/imagejpg4_zps11905a77.jpg


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on August 10, 2016, 01:10:33 AM
Lookit não!
I've been a staple on this forum for years. Have I said some things? Have I trololo'ed some people? Maybe. Has it kept them honest? NO. But so wat? I come here in the hopes of one day wind-falling head first into a pile of those sweaty ill-gotten coins. But if all they got is, well, that?? What's the use?

What is the use?! ???


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: gorgon666 on October 21, 2016, 07:09:05 AM
The moderators should go on the record to say the exact reason why they received these payments. If they refuse then everyone has every reason to be suspicious of the moderators.
have they followed through on this request?


Title: Re: PSA: This Place is being moderated by TradeFortress!
Post by: tspacepilot on November 01, 2016, 04:44:47 PM
The moderators should go on the record to say the exact reason why they received these payments. If they refuse then everyone has every reason to be suspicious of the moderators.
have they followed through on this request?

Lol @Quickseller fail.