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BTW, I am not an electrical engineer so give me a brake break on that. I am CEO.
(To Be Determent Determined) - we will try to make it affordable.

Given that Intel is 2 years ahead of the industry and they just started shipping 22nm product, I think you are living in Strawberry Shortcake land.

@Vladimir
it's not 32Amp/120V its only circuit breaker that big, but specked power draw is 2250 + power-supply inefficiency

@Vicus
@Entropy-uc
Can't disclose name of a foundry yet, NDA. By the time we will be ready manufacturer will already be producing 20nm.

And now I call bullshit.

Every foundry's roadmap is published 5 years in advance, publicly so that the supply chain can be ready.  There is no NDA on that data.

So go ahead and show us all one foundry with a roadmap to start shipping production wafers this fall at 20nm.

Then explain how you will get any wafer starts when Apple, Qualcomm, Broadcomm, Altera, Xilinx, NVidia, and 50 other $Billion/year fabless companies are all fighting for the same wafer starts.

Get a new nickname, and a better story for your scam next time.

@Entropy-uc
I didn't say that their PR or road map is under NDA, it's public info, I said that my agreement with them is under NDA and time haven't come till they permitted us to do the public announcement.

@Entropy-uc
I didn't say that their PR or road map is under NDA, it's public info, I said that my agreement with them is under NDA and time haven't come till they permitted us to do the public announcement.

This 20nm process bothers me very much. How can there be a company holding such a technology and not having any public presentations about it, they would have so many big customers if they would just announce the technology instead of trying to hide it until some <500k bitcoin ASICs are produced. Doesn't really sound like that foundry's best interest.

How can there be a company holding such a technology and not having any public presentations about it

1 simple question:  What foundry has a 20 nm process on their roadmap?  

If you think TSMC is going to give any attention to Bitcoin ASICs when they have the likes of Intel, Apple and nVidia to deal with... well, I wish you best of luck  ;)

Who do you think is making Avalon chips? I guess all of those people with avalons are a scam eh?

This 20nm process bothers me very much. How can there be a company holding such a technology and not having any public presentations about it, they would have so many big customers if they would just announce the technology instead of trying to hide it until some <500k bitcoin ASICs are produced. Doesn't really sound like that foundry's best interest.

Those Avalons are 110nm, that must be what you're making. You'd have to be either extremely naive or a scammer to suggest anyone capable of manufacturing 20nm semiconductors is going to bother with bitcoin hardware.

But I'd love to be proven wrong  ;)

Who do you think is making Avalon chips? I guess all of those people with avalons are a scam eh?

There is a galaxy of difference between getting wafer starts on a 10 year old Fab and getting access to current generation process tech.  If you aren't spending hundreds of millions with a foundry, they aren't going to even talk to you in the first couple years of operations.

Really, How then was Adapteva able to get their 28nm Epiphany IV platform printed and packaged in less than 6 months? Scam too, right? Not really much difference between a 800,000$ kickstarter project and a bitcoin project.

Learn to read.  Then learn to comprehend.  How long have 28 nm lines been running in the foundries?

Hoping and wishing for unicorns won't produce unicorns.  It will just make you old, fat and stupid.

First the good news.  Some basic Googling seems to indicate that Max Avroutski is a real person that has some experience in various facets of IT.  This is a step ahead of most ASIC scams where all attempts to research the company turn up nothing before three days ago.  His LinkedIn page does not inspire much confidence though, for example:

"knowledge in business processes and business practices, law, material science, psychology, neuroscience, medicine, manufacturing processes, computer science and more;"

Best case scenario is that this is a very early stage venture that will likely encounter the same issues that the other legitimate attempts did.  Chances of success are slim and none, and Slim is warming up his car to head out of town.

Please do not attempt to preorder anything!!!

tits or gtfo ;)

PRE-ORDERS OF ANY KIND SHOULD BE BANNED! NO PRODUCT NO CASH!~ OR IN OUR CASE NO COINS..

 
------------------------------------------------

While I agree with the sentiment, and I agree that people should be warned against pre-ordering promises from people who have shown no track record of delivery, I'm not sure about using the ban hammer.

Then again, this ain't kickstarter, so maybe, as I said above only half in jest, "GH/s or gtfo" is an option.  

Ultimately I think it's up to the community to self-enforce.  If people stopped throwing coins at every scam that came along promising rainbows and unicorns and untold riches, the scams would go away (or at least, slow down).

This is a tough one, and this certainly isn't the thread to continue this line of discussion - sounds like it belongs in the Meta board.

Hmm.. interesting.. probably beat BFL too.. lol

Prepare for an extensive background check.. this forum has some decent google detectives..

If this is legit.. then best of luck.. we need more competition with ASIC.. given the current pre-order pricing from the only company that has delivered thus far.

come on guys 30 seconds of googling produced this hit:

http://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technology/20nm.htm

Looking further ahead, Chang said his company's already seen enough clients and demand for the upcoming 20nm manufacturing process, which should have a more significant financial contribution in 2014. The exec also predicted that at TSMC, its 20nm production will see a bigger growth rate between 2014 and 2015 than its 28nm counterpart did between 2012 and 2013 -- the former should eventually nab close to 90 percent of the market, said Chang.

Max Avroutski's Overview

Current
Consultant at Consulting Services
Founder at Improve American Education
Past
Founder in training at The Founder Institute
CEO / CTO at 1Terabit, Inc
System Developer turned Partner at Glass Company
Education
College of Telecommunications
Recommendations
1 person has recommended Max
Connections
53 connections
Max Avroutski's Projects

Discounteer
Team Members: Max Avroutski
Discounteer - helps people to make a decision on which consumer product to buy while providing expert reviews, current and historic pricing, and discount information from all merchants.
SPAM FREE World
Team Members: Max Avroutski
SPAM FREE World project - can guaranty 100% no SPAM, Zero false positives with no management cost. Join me if you think you have what it takes to fight SPAM.
Software Factory
Team Members: Max Avroutski
65% of software projects are over budget, past deadlines or never complete. Software Factory crowd-sources millions of developers worldwide and empowers them with a unique combination of business practices, project management and software development tools to provide 100% guaranty of on-time and on-budget delivery of software development projects at competitive rates.
Secure Video Content Protection
Team Members: Max Avroutski
Unremovable content protection technology to combat video piracy.

Max Avroutski's Summary

I am a Usability, Marketing & Business Analysis Expert.

[Usability is the ease of use and learnability and I have a brain for it. Among other things it includes User Interface, User Experience and Ergonomics.]

My other broad range of skills include:

- unearthing and analyzing Strategic and Competitive business intelligence that makes or breaks the business;
- online & off-line marketing, creative design & copywriting;
- coming up with ingenious solutions for impossible problems using my multidisciplinary knowledge in business processes and business practices, law, material science, psychology, neuroscience, medicine, manufacturing processes, computer science and more;
- recognizing patterns that most people don't see;
- development, analysis, and testing of software and infrastructure systems.

Max Avroutski's Experience

Consultant
Consulting Services
January 2001 – Present (12 years 2 months)
Business, marketing, Internet and software consulting services.

I do a lot of marketing and usability work as a ghost marketer for number of companies under their names. I can't talk about what specifically I have done and for who due to NDA, but I can tell you and show you what I can do for you. Just ask for an evaluation.

If you have been on the Internet for more than a day I am sure you have seen my work.

(The reason why I like doing ghost work is because I get paid way more for it than for work for which I can take credit for.)

Some of the projects I can talk about:
- Independently marketed Prosper.com to build the largest active group on Prosper.com with over 5,700 members, almost 800 loans and over $4,200,000 loaned.

- Repair & upgrade of dozens Rimage CD/DVD robotic duplication systems. Created SATA upgrade for SCSI & FireWire systems.

- Created marketing piece consisting of: 1) CD cover; 2) Autostart hybrid Mac/PC CD with Adobe Flash presentation of services of my customer. Once inserted into computer it would automatically run and check for an updated version on the Internet server and if no internet access or no new version is available it would play original presentation stored on CD; 3) PHP/MySQL server program that would log each presentation CD's viewing for future analysis of the marketing campaign.
Founder
Improve American Education
February 2011 – Present (2 years 1 month)
Improve American Education is working on of bringing affordable, engaging and easy to learn 21st century education to the masses. We modernize old ideas and research and develop new methods of educating using the Scientific Method. We are in the process of producing both online and standalone educational software products as well as tangible learning materials initially for students K-12. In the future we will expand onto other age groups and corporate training products. We invite all educators, multimedia and film makes to help us to Improve American Education!
Founder in training
The Founder Institute
March 2011 – March 2011 (1 month) NYC
The Founder Institute is a technology startup accelerator and entrepreneur training program.
CEO / CTO
1Terabit, Inc
April 1996 – December 2000 (4 years 9 months)
- Started the company using small personal savings, grew it into 1 of only 33 Primary Internet Backbone providers at the time.
- Worked with regulatory agencies to attain status of CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier) to compete with incumbent phone companies in selling telephone services
- Successfully transitioned part of the business from retail dial-up, that was becoming less profitable, into more profitable wholesale dial-up.
- Acquired use rights to nationwide fiberoptic network and negotiated Internet Network Peering agreements.
- Hired and trained employees for Sales, Customer Service and Technical Support.
- Engineered, installed, and run Cisco router and switch based network. Tested, evaluated, and used for providing service Ascend, Cisco, NEC, Fujitsu, IBM, Sycamore and many other switches, routers, servers, optical carrier, and DSL equipment. Build custom servers for providing webhosting. Performed hardware, software and network troubleshooting.
- Developed, adopted, and modified both our own proprietary and open source software to speedup and simplify installation, monitoring and management of customer accounts and network systems.
- Successfully sold the company.

Archive of our "State of the Art" :) (by 1998 standards) website:
http://web.archive.org/web/1998/http://www.terabit.net/
.
System Developer turned Partner
Glass Company
October 1991 – March 1996 (4 years 6 months)
Invented process of extremely fast production of permanent art designs on the glass. Built computerized system for the manufacturing process. Invention is protected by the trade secret.
Max Avroutski's Languages

English (Native or bilingual proficiency)
Russian (Native or bilingual proficiency)
Max Avroutski's Skills & Expertise

Start-ups  Research  User Experience  Social Media  Marketing Business Strategy  Product Development  New Business Development User Interface  User Interface Design  Usability Engineering User Experience Design  Business Intelligence  Data Mining  Copywriting Ergonomics
Max Avroutski's Education

College of Telecommunications
Computer Science
1988 – 1991
- Finished 2 years of Mathematics study in 4 month.
- Switched major from Applied Mathematics to Computer Science.
- Helped teach programming courses to students.

Hmm.. if this dude is really located in NYC, that mean's he's only a few train stops away from me.  I always feel safer when I purchase something from someone who is local. >:]

Hmm.. if this dude is really located in NYC, that mean's he's only a few train stops away from me.  I always feel safer when I purchase something from someone who is local. >:]

I just realized that I forgot to link the cache URL: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2L1pHAjHrm0J:www.linkedin.com/in/maxavroutski+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Now search both LinkedIn pages (current and cache) for the terms Galaxy and Education, and see what you find. Search each term individually, and not at the same time.

Current: http://www.linkedin.com/in/MaxAvroutski

oh cmon its "American Education" they dont teach cache..

lulz

here we have :

Cash withdraws
Cash Limits
or Cash withdraw limits
Cash Sequester
Cash Outta yo pocket!

and Cash be gone!

They dunt mention cache anywhere..
-------------------

All the google graduates to the front of the line! The education on the internet is much better! Some of them have figured out sometimes cache might save you CASH!!!!!

Max Avroutski
Location:New York, NY
Hometown: New York
Member since:
March 4, 2013
Introduction
I would like to trade bitcoins.

Why announce now ?
So that potential customers would know that they will have options.

I think this Douglas guy has a crush on Max: http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinDC/member/5704316/

Compare: http://www.meetup.com/ny-tech/members/5704316/?op=&memberId=5704316

Max Avroutski
Location: New York, NY
Hometown: New York
Member since: December 2, 2007

Introduction

At (My America Education) http://www.MyAmEd... we help teachers and educators to bring affordable, engaging and easy to learn multimedia and game-like education to K-12. Please send me a message on how you can help to Improve American Education.

DNS #1:   run.earth.orderbox-dns.com
DNS #2:   run.mars.orderbox-dns.com
DNS #3:   run.mercury.orderbox-dns.com
DNS #4:   run.venus.orderbox-dns.com

Domain Name: GALAXYASIC.COM
Registrar: NETEARTH ONE INC. D/B/A NETEARTH
Whois Server: whois.advancedregistrar.com
Referral URL: http://www.advancedregistrar.com
Name Server: RUN.EARTH.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
Name Server: RUN.MARS.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
Name Server: RUN.MERCURY.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
Name Server: RUN.VENUS.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 25-mar-2013
Creation Date: 25-mar-2013
Expiration Date: 25-mar-2014

I am also a member of the Hi_Max group. Didn't know when I joined :angry: . Nevertheless, I poked around a bit this morning and found the following info about the elusive Hi_Max.

Full Name: Max Avroutski (His full name was on his Prosper profile, but has since been removed)

Address: P.O. Box 140156, Brooklyn NY 11214

Phone: 718-560-3082

Company: 1Terabit, Inc., www.terabit.net

Another company also showed up: Algora Publishing, Tel 212-344-4443, Fax 212-344-3940, 11 Broadway, 4th Floor, NY,NY 10004, http.algora.com.

FYI

Registrant:
AVRUTSKIY, ILYA
2901 OCEAN PKWY APT E5
BROOKLYN, NY 11235-8031
US

Domain Name: WORLDCOINSONLINE.COM



Administrative Contact:
AVRUTSKIY, ILYA    worldcoinsonline@hotmail.com
2901 OCEAN PKWY APT E5
BROOKLYN, NY 11235-8031
US
718 646 3458

Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC.    customerservice@networksolutions.com
13861 Sunrise Valley Drive
Herndon, VA 20171
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620

Record expires on 12-Nov-2016.
Record created on 12-Nov-2000.
Database last updated on 26-Mar-2013 13:20:59 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.TERABIT.NET 72.36.191.222
NS2.TERABIT.NET
NS3.TERABIT.NET
NS4.TERABIT.NET 206.130.109.51

Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Creation Date: 12-NOV-2000
Updated Date: 03-OCT-2011
Expiration Date: 12-NOV-2016

Nameserver: NS1.TERABIT.NET
Nameserver: NS2.TERABIT.NET
Nameserver: NS3.TERABIT.NET
Nameserver: NS4.TERABIT.NET

WTF!]

What moderator changed this guy's nick to GalaxyASIC?  Tolerating scammers is one thing.  Actively helping them is ridiculous.
[/quote


Ain't that the truth!  Until someone can show working products, Bitcointalk should not help "Advertise" these "companies" as it sends the wrong message to the average Joes who read these forums and trust the moderators know the difference between the good and bad companies out there.

Ain't that the truth!  Until someone can show working products, Bitcointalk should not help "Advertise" these "companies" as it sends the wrong message to the average Joes who read these forums and trust the moderators know the difference between the good and bad companies out there.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8367/8594211986_d42fa30e71.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8377/8593117889_6f923efd80_n.jpg

To show that's they are the same person and that a change of name occurred with no record, and now GalaxyASIC is positioning himself to sell 20nm ASIC chip-based mining rigs come this fall.

Which means that someone with administrator privileges on this board is aiding them in a fashion that is abnormal for the policies of the site.

Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?)
February 23, 2013, 01:55:36 AM
 #3683

Can I be white listed, I would like to buy some mining gear and post my request in Hardware section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0

Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more.
Today at 07:23:29 AM
 #321

There is too high probability that by the time Avalon batch 3 delivered BFL will be out in full 655TH force and then good luck with making back your 88 BTC
I have calculated that BFL pumping @25% of their ability i.e. 200 units a day * 22 workdays a month of 60GH units will increase network by 8.8TH a day
200*22*60/30=8,800GH

Not counting existing miners or other companies. So in 365 days you will make 43.71 BTC and deduct $1,314 for power (0.600kW*24H*365D*$0.25)

Price is 3-4 times too high so it's too big of a gamble. Feels like Avalon is cashing-out out of the game. Last final sale for all the marbles, grabbing with both hands. They pretty much dead very soon. Even if BFL will delay again for 2 month, Avalon doesn't have much better track record of delivering in volume. Where are 1st batch 300 and 2nd 600, I ask you?
And we are only 2 weeks away from their announced delivery.

Plus no warranty or guaranteed support. Sounds like they don't have faith in their ability to fix it, (or make it)

Try reading things before agreeing to them...

https://i.imgur.com/IImy71P.png

As of March 24, 2013, he was still going by mumu: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9QhMRITN8ZsJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D155345.320+&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


And he was quoted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.msg1666637#msg1666637

Also:

I'm done!: http://www.yasni.com/ext.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prosperreport.com%2Farchive%2Fforums%2F9%2F5%2F9533.0.HTM&name=Max+Avroutski&cat=statement&showads=1


http://myworld.ebay.com/avrutsky/

http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=avrutsky

Welcome to World Coins Online web-site! First of all, let me introduce myself. My name is Ilya Avrutskiy, I have been collecting, buying and selling world coins for almost 25 years. I specialize in U.S. Saint Gaudens gold $20 dollars and German States gold coins. But most of all I like coins from Russia (gold, silver and copper). You will find a wide selection of U.S., German and Russian coins graded by a third party grading service (NGC or PCGS) on the web site.

Can someone summarize this thread?

I got lost in all the noise.

I love BCT's combined level of detective work.  Once again, In a matter of days, I am amazed at all the work put forth to uncover the dude's background info.  I don't think even law enforcement officials or criminal psychologist could work this fast.

And @ Entropy-uc:  you might be onto something there. >;]

Sorry this means nothing, I know at least one guy on linkedin who appears to be highly professional and with his own company with a million $ turn over.
To read his LI profile you would think he personally invented oxygen, time travel, languages and ALL good Ideas.
 Unfortunately I know the guy and his LI profile is just an bloated extension of his imagination.
So I'm sorry but a self mastabatory LI profile is not going to cut it with me. (show me the patents......)

Can someone summarize this thread?

I got lost in all the noise.

I wonder why is mumu not defending himself/herself here ?

In summary what I meant is that his LinkedIn profile is humorous at best, but there is some confirmation of his LinkedIn job history available via Google search.  IE, he may actually be who he says he is, which seems to be a possibly delusional dreamer with big ideas that are likely beyond his reach.

I think it's 50/50 that this guy is in the very early stages of trying to launch an ASIC (the other 50 being that it's a simple scam)
I think it's 99999/1 that he fails.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020118041340/http://www.worldcoinsonline.com/


I've yet to check, but I wonder if any users here have, or still are selling, Russian coins on this forum.

Guessing his age: 25 + 18 + 11 = 54.

College of Telecommunications
Computer Science
1988 – 1991

Updated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158044.msg1672838#msg1672838

We have to keep our Intellectual Property protected and abide by NDA we have signed with chip manufactures so please understand that there are some things that I can't divulge, but I will try my best to answer any questions that you may have.

BTW, I am not an electrical engineer so give me a break on that. I am CEO.

2013-03-27 - Thank you everyone for your kind and unkind posts. They certainly will keep me on my toes. I will not be engaging trolls by defending me or people with similar names, there is no point. Thanks to everyone who PMed me, but please don't send PM's, I can't stand CAPTCHA so I can't reply to you all individually until I put a system in place, maybe next week, we all have plenty of time. I never had plans to take consumer pre-orders, I wouldn't want to be in BFL_Josh's shoes. I believe that he is trying to do the best job that he can under the circumstances. The only reason that there is a plan to sell 50% to consumers is to bring higher value to the product and reliability to Bitcoin.

2013-03-28 - Several investors demanding faster delivery than we originally planned or is possible due to technology, so while my first team will be working on 20nm ASIC, I will be hiring more engineers to work in parallel on our second chip that will come out first in about 3-5 month. I will not be publicly disclosing the technology or specks and it will only be available to investors since it doesn't threaten 51% attack.

Updated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158044.msg1672838#msg1672838

P.S. We will not accept payments in BTC from consumers before there is a product.

P.S. We will not accept payments in BTC from consumers before there is a product.

Please clarify:

Are you accepting payments in dollars from consumers before there is a product?

Are you accepting payments in BTC and/or dollars from investors before there is a product?

Since you only selling the secret ASIC to investors, does that mean investors are actually consumers?

And does that also mean investments are actually pre-orders?

http://ak6.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/351602/preview/stock-footage-goat-looking-behind-a-barn-door.jpg

My partner, obfuscated above (I'll refer to him as Wilson Wilson), have secretly been developing ASIC-based Bitcoin encryption devices for over two years. The product is now ready for ordering.

Unlike the other manufacturers, we didn't do the pre-order game, opting to only take bitcoins from bitcoiners via ordering only. Once ordered, you're more than welcome to come to our barn and pick up your equipment, but please PM us first, but not via a PM service that has captchas, for WW and I can't stand them.

@Phinnaeus Gage
That was funny. Thanks.

superf...@my-deja.com    
9/12/99


In article <7r60tr$kmo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

  jm...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <rt5hm2...@corp.supernews.com>,
>   justin <justin-at-NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> > I immediately distrust the boardwatch list if they put 1terabit.net
> there.
> > Buying "contracts" does not qualify you as a tier 1 backbone,
> > last time I showed up there they had about 4 employees.
> > If thats the kind of checking boardwatch does for such a key page,
> > how accurate is the rest of it?
> > -Justin
>
How do they have 4 employees? Are you sure? Maybe you
saw 1 food delivery people, one tech from Bell Atlantic
doing some work, and one worker.

> It's far worse than you think. Boardwatch bases the information on
that
> page from what the companies tell them they have. This means that in
> many of the cases, the information is old because Boardwatch simply
> hasn't gotten the latest marketing tripe.
>
> In the case of 1Terabit.net, let me identify a few pointers:
>
> (1) 'Founder' and 'Senior Network Engineer' Mr. Max Avroutski is
> perhaps the only employee at Terabit to stay more than a few months.
>
Of course, he's the "Founder." He is the senior engineer because
he's the only guy there.

> (2) 1Terabit doesn't have a nationwide backbone. They have a
connection
> to globalcenter.net aka Frontier aka Global Crossing, which does have
a
> nationwide network.
>
All he is, is a one man shop ISP.

> (3) Their claim that they're registered as a CLEC and local phone
> service provider in many states is an outright lie. Simply fact: they
> claim to be a CLEC in New York State. Visit the New York State PSC at
> http://www.dps.state.ny.us/tele.html for a list of the REAL CLECs and
> resellers in New York State. Guess who isn't listed!
>
> (4) They list tons of cities they have facilities in. Try doing a
> search on their name in any of those cities. Guess who isn't in the
> phone book.
>
> (5) Their 'secret' number for their NOC is, I believe, a cell-phone
> that Max carries around. If you go down in the middle of the night,
> guess who you get to call -- a modern facility with technicians
working
> to keep the network up, monitoring conditions and notifying the LEC if
> things go down, or some guy asleep at home who won't fix it until the
> next day (if even then).
They don't have anything. I knew this guy who went there.
He waited outside forever. No one bothers to get the door.
Then he peaked the "NOC." It was just a room with some
PC's! It was a mess. Cables and garbage strewn all over.
No one could help him. Max wouldn't even talk to him.

>
> Finally, simply put, they're not a backbone carrier because they don't
> have a backbone. No interconnection agreements or routers at any of
the
> MAE sites, and none at the NAP sites I could get lists of routers at.
>
Of course. Usually, you'll have T1's or T3's going to MAE or
something.

> If Terabit could lie, who else might be on that list based on
imaginary
> information?
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Never_Again    
8/27/99


all of the above is absolutely correct.
besides, they freely admit they have no idea about anything. they never give
you an installation date. when you ask them 'When will BA come to do the
wiring', they have no idea. "Why does Covad take so long to process the
order?' -- no clue. they should change their name to 'Noidea.net'
--
Never_Again
ĢDoom shall never die, only the playersģ
:
superf...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7q79k0$c4m$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
:In article <7pet39$ajc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,


:  jm...@my-deja.com wrote:
:> Looking for xDSL service in the NYC area? Don't look at 1terabit.net
:> (www.terabit.net).
:
:Yeah. I agree. LOL. They claim they have a Tier 1 backbone.
:It's totally fictitious. Their website looks like it was
:made by a total amateur, and not by a real web designer.
:It looks awful. How the hell are they going to spend
:all that money when they're a one man mom and pop
:operation? Tier 1 backbone?
:
:They can't even get a good web designer. How the hell
:do they have money to get a Tier 1 backbone? I've never
:heard of them before. They are fake.
:
:What a joke. Max, the
:so called network engineer who's the owner of the dump
:is a weirdo. He posted here awhile back. Check the
:archives and you can see him threatening people.
:I talked to his stupid sales pitch. He talked about
:a subscription ratio of like 250! So you're paying
:all this money for shared bandwidth. I bet all he has
:is one lousy T1 from Bell Atlantic.
:
:He has one other guy working for him. Clueless
:idiot.
:
:>Since April, they've consistantly failed to deliver

:> any service to me. Now, four months later, when I've demanded they
:> cancel my service, it's taking a legal action to get them to cancel my
:> way-overdue order. Who knows if I'll ever see the $600++ dollars they
:> demanded up front again. I'm working with the Attorney General's
:office
:> in New York to try to get my money back, and maybe get them to behave
:a
:> bit more legally in the future. All I can say is, if you're looking
:for
:> service in New York, look somewhere else.
:>
:
:I've heard horror stories about terabit.
:
:> here's a short list of complaints:

:> * inaccurate information about order status
:> * they retroactively change price structures and fees, even after a
:> contract is signed
:> * no guarantees of any kind whatsoever.
:> * contract termination requires a FULL CONTRACT BUYOUT (i.e., they
:give
:> you no service, and you still have to pay them)
:> * they assign ip addresses from a netblock they don't own
:> * their claims about their network are largely imaginary
:>
:> and, finally,
:>
:> * while their sales and most service people are nice, if you ever have
:>
:
:They have ONE guy! I always talk to this one guy. He sounds
:nice but he's clueless. He doesn't even understand what
:an IP address is.
:
:>a problem, you have to deal with Max, who refuses to take no for an

:> answer. He's gruff, he's rude, and he tells you exactly what to do.
:> He'll never budge an inch, and he's never heard of customer service.
:>
:
:That's why any potential customer has to pick wisely.
:If the guy gives you an attitude, then forget about them.
:The customer is king.
:
:> Avoid these folks, unlike me, and you'll live a far happier life.
:>
:
:Thanks. Luckily, I just called them a few times and didn't
:go with them.
:
:> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

:> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
:>
:
:
:Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

:Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

jm...@my-deja.com    
12/20/99


Don't get mad -- get legal. Contact the New York State Attorney
General's Office (120 Broadway, New York, NY 10004) -- Internet Bureau.
Tell them you want to file a complaint on 1terabit inc. They've already
got a pile of documentation from me an inch thick. I encourage anyone
and everyone who got the shaft from Mad Max to complain. It creates an
official government record, and it'll do a lot more than complaining to
the BBB (which I'd also do), since Terabit is -- here's a shocker --
not Better Business Bureau member.
If you've lost money, you also might consider a small claims court
suit, but I decided it wasn't worth my time to chase a few hundred
dollars that, undoubtedly, would be uncollectable from those thieves.
Then again, if I had a judgement that was uncollectable, maybe I could
get the police to sieze and auction their internet hardware to pay my
judgement. What am I bid for a Cisco 2500 router, previously configured
by 'Senior Network Engineer' Max? :)

All-time stinker ISP sells its DSL client base
by nickb Sunday 27-Aug-2000

Long time DSLreports patrons may remember the trails and tribulations of the unfortunate customers of a New York City ISP known as 1Terabit.net. In its heyday 1Terabit jousted here weekly with the "old" Flashcom to wear the crown of "worst/most hated DSL ISP". Headed by a shadowy figure known only as "Max" 1Terabit trumpeted its Tier 1 ISP network and managed to snag quite a few early DSL adopters. Those unlucky folks endured all manner of abuse, from extremely rude customer service to draconian throttling of bandwidth. 1Terabit eventually stopped signing up new customers altogether and faded from the DSL scene. Although, bizarrely, they continued to be listed as a Northpoint partner, until quite recently. A Friday press-release announces that DSLreports darlings Megapath have acquired their remaining DSL customer base, as reported here.

mumu - don't be mum, please  ;) :D

1 simple question:  What foundry has a 20 nm process on their roadmap?  When will they start shipping?

Given that Intel is 2 years ahead of the industry and they just started shipping 22nm product, I think you are living in Strawberry Shortcake land.

Updates:
(The reason I post updates here is because my investors do read this forum, but I would like to worn them that if you identify yourself be prepared to be trolled to tears.)

I joined today and am educating myself on groups before I post a loan request. This is all very interesting, thank you.

As far as Max not getting back to you, here is some information you can find out for yourself if you think he is interesting and a wealthy dotcommer/ philanthropist:

Why doesn't he name the internet service he "sold most of yet remains Ceo"? Being CEO is a big position in a company, yet he has time to create a ONE PAGE website that he does name?

http://expertcollector.com/ which only has links to two other sites he "created" or provides the very rudimentary "eCommerce function"? Oh, and launching soon the next Ebay. LOL
www.WorldCoinsOnline.com and www.DavidCoins.com

Go to this page http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp to find out where the owner of these sites listed as his address when the URLs where registered. They are all in Brooklyn NY, have no "contact us" on the sites which would make them appear to be more like real businesses.

Just my un-informed opinion, but I doubt he has the accomplishments he acclaims. Other than being Russian.

I do want to point out that the above information is all available publically on the internet. I didn't bother to "google" the names of the guys on the other two websites, but maybe you could learn more by doing so.

Phew, long first ever post. I hope you learn something, at least what you can learn from doing a whois search.

Thanks again, I'm going to learn as much as I can before joining a group.

Yes, yet another ASIC announcement. :)

But this time I am a real person with the technology background and here is my LinkedIn profile:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/MaxAvroutski (http://www.linkedin.com/in/MaxAvroutski)

ASIC is due Fall/Winter 2013

What is the difference?

Our initial plan is to sell 50% and run other 50% for our investors.
Units that we will sell will be 4U rack mountable and modular, but you can easily turn them 90 degrees and it will stand like a mid-size tower computer. Modularity will allow customers to buy base unit for a lower price and then upgrade processing power as needed by buying additional modules.

We have to keep our Intellectual Property protected and abide by NDA we have signed with chip manufactures so please understand that there are some things that I can't divulge, but I will try my best to answer any questions that you may have.

BTW, I am not an electrical engineer so give me a break on that. I am CEO.

Details so far:
20nm process
It will use about 0.25W per GH
Peak processing power of each module 500GH.
18 boards per 4U server.
Fully loaded 4U system will peak at 9,000GH and will require 30Amp 120V circuit or it can use 240V, but you can start with 15A circuit if it's only half loaded.

Price: TBD (To Be Determined) - we will try to make it affordable.

Why announce now ?
So that potential customers would know that they will have options.

===========

P.S. The posts you about to read in this thread from some forum members are outright vicious and disrespectful, so be prepared. It's a free speech on the internet after all.

Updates:
(The reason I post updates here is because my investors do read this forum, but I would like to worn them that if you identify yourself be prepared to be trolled to tears.)

2013-03-27 - Thank you everyone for your kind and unkind posts. They certainly will keep me on my toes. I will not be engaging trolls by defending me or people with similar names, there is no point. Thanks to everyone who PMed me, but please don't send PM's, I can't stand CAPTCHA so I can't reply to you all individually until I put a system in place, maybe next week, we all have plenty of time. I never had plans to take consumer pre-orders, I wouldn't want to be in BFL_Josh's shoes. I believe that he is trying to do the best job that he can under the circumstances. The only reason that there is a plan to sell 50% to consumers is to bring higher value to the product and reliability to Bitcoin.

2013-03-28 - Several investors demanding faster delivery than we originally planned or is possible due to technology, so while my first team will be working on 20nm ASIC, I will be hiring more engineers to work in parallel on our second chip that will come out first in about 3-5 month. I will not be publicly disclosing the technology or specks because it will only be available to investors since it doesn't threaten 51% attack and because I don't want anyone copying us. Investors will have more, but not all info under NDA.

P.S. We will not accept payments in BTC from consumers before there is a product.

There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...

I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...

If you post your full contact information, personal name, company your representing, and your previous expertise recarding ASIC development I don't see why you would be categorised as a scammer. Be open about the project and make sure to post plenty of images and videos once you actually do something on the product, even if it's only early prototype testing, all solid info counts.

If you have a company make it possible to visit you and see the development or testing process first hand.

For some funny reason these scammer tagged people fail to provide the needed information to make them credible. For example this Galaxy guy could prove himself immediately by providing info about the foundry which is going to make those chips with 20nm process. After the foundry has confirmed that they do have an order of 10k bitcoin chips from this guy there would be no question about that.

(The reason I post updates here is because my investors do read this forum, but I would like to worn them that if you identify yourself be prepared to be trolled to tears.)

There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...

I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...

There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...

I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...

The intention is clearly enough to be called scammer.

Yes only newbies like you who havent done any research would think thats is just a simple announcement.

Yes, yet another ASIC announcement.

But this time I am a real person with the technology background and here is my LinkedIn profile:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/MaxAvroutski

ASIC is due Fall/Winter 2013

What is the difference?

Our initial plan is to sell 50% and run other 50% for our investors.

Our initial plan is to sell 50% and run other 50% for our investors.

Your signature is incorrect.  BFL (Josh) has posted a video of a prototype hashing.

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 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 15d55ee2 BFL 0  Diff 11/1
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 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 9e87d2fd BFL 0  Diff 1/1
 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 7f854200 BFL 0  Diff 2/1
 [2013-03-30 23:38:54] Accepted 03c5d641 BFL 0  Diff 67/8
 [2013-03-30 23:39:08] Accepted 040aab96 BFL 0  Diff 63/8
 [2013-03-30 23:39:09] Accepted 14997fe3 BFL 0  Diff 12/8
 [2013-03-30 23:39:10] Accepted 123ded4b BFL 0  Diff 14/8
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Well instead of wondering, why not email Max, the group leader and ask him directly?

I hope this isn't the beginning of another "bash the growing group" syndrone!

Here is his Prosper profile. He sounds like a very interesting guy!

"My name is Max, I am CEO/CTO of an Internet Service Provider that I started back in 1996 when I was just 22 years old. I learned a lot about ?American way? and people in general while running my company. I sold large part of the company few years back, but I still have some of the company's assets.

I have a business and philanthropic side, I always think about: Is what I am doing, is it good for humanity at large or what can I do to help people.

I consider myself a New Yorker, since I living here in NY since I was 18 years old.

Nowadays, besides running a Prosper group, I spend most of my time on my new business www.ExpertCollector.com where I provide e-commerce platform for collectors of coins, stamps and other collectibles. Our system runs their on-line stores and is very easy to manage.

Soon we will be releasing a new version of our system that will combine power of the likes of eBay and Froogle in one system and will provide unified marketing and advertising of our customers? collectibles.

Were I am coming from:
My father was a big inventor in Russia. He received ?The Best Inventor of USSR? award and also Bronze medal on All Russian Technological Exhibition. In 1987 I was 14 and got introduced to computers and programming. When I was 18, about a month after finishing my education in Microelectronics and Computer Science in Russia I moved to United States.

I am optimistic in all things I do, and I also hope that one day one of MY inventions will make me my first Billion! "

Since he evidently has a customer base with his well established businesses I would guess he is acquiring group members from that resource.

   
Henceforth, anyone who says anything bad about me or my group will suffer a mandatory expulsion from the internet.

Here are the rules. They are brief, and I expect every Prosper participant to peruse and memorize them posthaste:

For a truly interesting read: http://prosperreport.com/threads/5/5/5555.0.HTM


The whole thread is good.

Well, if you showed up with a stack of resumes from your organization that establishes a history of delivering ASIC designs, firmware implementations, board and system level hardware, and sales and marketing, I'd say very interesting.

If you show up promising technology that no one but $1B/year companies will be able to purchase until at least 2015, I will call you a scammer.

I dont give a flying shiet.

Dont ask for preorders. Take orders when you're ready to ship and have been done demo your products to public prior.

Otherwise, get the fuck off .

This 20nm process bothers me very much. How can there be a company holding such a technology and not having any public presentations about it, they would have so many big customers if they would just announce the technology instead of trying to hide it until some <500k bitcoin ASICs are produced. Doesn't really sound like that foundry's best interest.

Those Avalons are 110nm, that must be what you're making. You'd have to be either extremely naive or a scammer to suggest anyone capable of manufacturing 20nm semiconductors is going to bother with bitcoin hardware.

But I'd love to be proven wrong  ;)

But this time I am a real person with the technology background and here is my LinkedIn profile:
http://www.linkedin.com/ (http://www.linkedin.com/in/MaxAvroutski)

Shouldn't that be "GH/s or gtfo"?

Hmm.. if this dude is really located in NYC, that mean's he's only a few train stops away from me.  I always feel safer when I purchase something from someone who is local. >:]

So is the project still on?

So is the project still on?

I am a bit surprised that you plan to cool 32amps/120V in a 4U case. Care to comment on that?

Magic ice dragons and squirrels with fans might as well be the answer here. Chances that I invest in this is about as slim as Bugs Bunny making it through Mordor.

Magic ice dragons and squirrels with fans might as well be the answer here. Chances that I invest in this is about as slim as Bugs Bunny making it through Mordor.

Sound nice. Can u show us pictures of your products?

Cray 1-2U blades can cool 22A/120V - there are ways.
BTW, specs had changed a bit, see OP

hahahaha, you guys are all whack man!! interested eh??? 20nm?  i guess the OP is the Albert Einstein of engineering, except he only realised it this month after he got wind of all these suckers who are willing to part with their BTC for an email and preorder #

I bet 0.5BTC this guy doesn't deliver jack shit by December

2:1 odds

20:1 odds. You bet 0.5 and get back 10btc! if this clown face delivers!! win win!

Well, Mr. Galaxy, please answer me the following:  On your pro-forma, it looks like you have 6,750 Thps shipped by next April.  Now, let's make the following assumptions:

(1) I order one Ghps from you for $20;
(2) My order arrives next April;
(3) The avalanche of raw hash power has caused everyone else in the market to roll over and go home; Galaxy ASICS are all the market; i.e., network hash rate is 6,750 Thps. (We'll forget the 51% problem; this is all a thought experiment, anyway.)

Here's my question:  What is wrong with my math here?  At 6,750,000 Gphs, I can expect to earn about 0.000533 BTC per day (an amount competititve with what one can now earn from watching YouTube videos or casino ads for about an hour, BTW).  Converted to USD, that's about $0.05.  Now, assume the board's overall power draw is 10 watts - chips, cooling fans, water pumps, cryo-compressors.  At $0.12/kwh, that's a bit under $0.03 a day to the Edison mob.

Which leaves me with about, ironically, my two cents worth for my $20 dollar investment.

Thus, it looks to me like your project fits, for us consumers, somewhere between two poles.

The first pole, as is always the case, is the possibility you are a scam, have no chips and never will have.
The second pole is you are wildly successful, in which case any purchaser's network share is ground into the dust.

Any comments? 

Want to escrow this bet?

Well, Mr. Galaxy, please answer me the following:  On your pro-forma, it looks like you have 6,750 Thps shipped by next April.  Now, let's make the following assumptions:

(1) I order one Ghps from you for $20;
(2) My order arrives next April;
(3) The avalanche of raw hash power has caused everyone else in the market to roll over and go home; Galaxy ASICS are all the market; i.e., network hash rate is 6,750 Thps. (We'll forget the 51% problem; this is all a thought experiment, anyway.)

Here's my question:  What is wrong with my math here?  At 6,750,000 Gphs, I can expect to earn about 0.000533 BTC per day (an amount competititve with what one can now earn from watching YouTube videos or casino ads for about an hour, BTW).  Converted to USD, that's about $0.05.  Now, assume the board's overall power draw is 10 watts - chips, cooling fans, water pumps, cryo-compressors.  At $0.12/kwh, that's a bit under $0.03 a day to the Edison mob.

Which leaves me with about, ironically, my two cents worth for my $20 dollar investment.

Thus, it looks to me like your project fits, for us consumers, somewhere between two poles.

The first pole, as is always the case, is the possibility you are a scam, have no chips and never will have.
The second pole is you are wildly successful, in which case any purchaser's network share is ground into the dust.

Any comments?  

i couldn't even be arsed to read your mumbojumbo mate.

Why don't quit yapping it and post some pictures of your supposed 1nm bitcoin miner which runs on fairy dust already.

there is no need. i have just invented a .5 nm asic. invented it right out of thin air

...

Lets recap the thread by going down FireFop's ASIC SCAM checklist:

1. CEO posting on forum?
2. Spelling and grammar errors?
3. Insane expectations re: development speed.
4. Accepting pre-orders.
5. Unrealistic pricing.
6. Dox quickly linked showing CEO has a history of scams.
7. CEO attempts to defend former scam(s) in the process revealing even worse spelling and grammar - even less understanding on the industry he's supposedly had experience in.
8. Someone breaks the business modem wide open using the numbers provided by the OP. Invalidates offering via economics and math.

Scammer Gets 8/8 (+1 bonus point for unknow mod helping with name change).

The scam rating is 112.5% (a new record!)

@MODS - Thread can be locked now - the fun is over.

Only thing that is truth in that list is that I am not a good speller or typist. Guess what, nether are you.

Only thing that is truth in that list is that I am not a good speller or typist. Guess what, nether are you.

Hey Galaxy i will develop my own chip:

9.99$ per Ghash. Pre-order now! Minimum quantity is 500Ghash!