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Title: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 18, 2016, 06:30:30 AM I think it's a good time to share my ignore list. Current list contains 1858 accounts and together with Danny Hamiltons list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0) they cover an estimated of more than 95% of the newer postings.
Most of the active zombie accounts discussed in this topic ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0 ) were included already before this topic started and they will be added as soon as they actually start their sig spamming campaign. If you think you don't belong on this list you can pm me to unignore. If you want to experience what a lonely place bitcointalk.org can be without paid sig accounts, simply go to Profile/Ignore user options and you can add this list with copy/paste. Don't forget to save it. My list, is fully dedicated to signature campaigners. All doubles with Dannies list are taken out now. (Updated April 21 2017 - 2381 accounts) Code: (altair) Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: Lauda on October 18, 2016, 07:16:51 AM That's a hefty list but may be useful. You know, the problem with ignoring a huge amount of people is that you may miss actually something *useful* and end up repeating it yourself in an attempt to provide constructive input somewhere. This thread should probably be in Off-Topic and self moderated (spam will likely come your way).
Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 18, 2016, 07:41:16 AM That's a hefty list but may be useful. You know, the problem with ignoring a huge amount of people is that you may miss actually something *useful* and end up repeating it yourself in an attempt to provide constructive input somewhere. This thread should probably be in Off-Topic and self moderated (spam will likely come your way). These 2887 accounts alone create more than 95% of the new postings and after playing around with the show/hide button for a while, I can tell you, that I really don't miss them. edit: I don't see this topic in any other than Meta and I don't fear the spammers :D Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: jackjack on October 18, 2016, 08:17:43 AM Great list
I'll give it a try with the show/hide button Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: tenk on October 18, 2016, 11:09:55 AM That's a hefty list but may be useful. You know, the problem with ignoring a huge amount of people is that you may miss actually something *useful* and end up repeating it yourself in an attempt to provide constructive input somewhere. This thread should probably be in Off-Topic and self moderated (spam will likely come your way). Yeah. Instead of people just ignoring everybody else, shouldn't we develop a better system of preventing spammers? I agree with Lauda regarding having a huge ignore list. Some of the people in your ignore list might contribute something to the discussion though. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: Lauda on October 18, 2016, 11:13:38 AM These 2887 accounts alone create more than 95% of the new postings and after playing around with the show/hide button for a while, I can tell you, that I really don't miss them. That's definitely too extensive to verify each member individually. Would definitely take over a week of work. I usually refer to such *quality posts* as noise. edit: I don't see this topic in any other than Meta and I don't fear the spammers :D I always advise the creation of self-moderated threads if you're aware of the situation here. You can moderate however you want, and set high standards for your thread.Yeah. Instead of people just ignoring everybody else, shouldn't we develop a better system of preventing spammers? More extensive punishment against everyone involved: users, managers and services. However, this discussion was beaten to death. Unless you have a really unique and constructive idea regarding this, we should avoid starting it.Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: tenk on October 18, 2016, 12:09:21 PM These 2887 accounts alone create more than 95% of the new postings and after playing around with the show/hide button for a while, I can tell you, that I really don't miss them. That's definitely too extensive to verify each member individually. Would definitely take over a week of work. I usually refer to such *quality posts* as noise. edit: I don't see this topic in any other than Meta and I don't fear the spammers :D I always advise the creation of self-moderated threads if you're aware of the situation here. You can moderate however you want, and set high standards for your thread.Yeah. Instead of people just ignoring everybody else, shouldn't we develop a better system of preventing spammers? More extensive punishment against everyone involved: users, managers and services. However, this discussion was beaten to death. Unless you have a really unique and constructive idea regarding this, we should avoid starting it.If I did, or someone else was able to create a system of preventing spam, will the admins implement it? I think this forum has been here for quite some time already, and basing from the forum software itself, isn't it outdated? I know it works, but there are plenty of features not yet implemented in these kind of softwares and I know the owner earns sh*t tons of money from this forum. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: Foxpup on October 18, 2016, 12:30:26 PM That's nothing. I currently ignore 4,018 accounts. They are not missed.
Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: 2112 on October 18, 2016, 03:22:39 PM Danny Hamiltons list ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 ) Danny's list started as a list of people whose arguments he couldn't refute, so he started advocating ignoring them as a signature spammers. The best example is MPOE-PR who never participated in any paid signature campaign but mercilessly and very skillfully poked fun at some of Danny's arguments. Anyone ignoring MPOE-PR would miss some of the best satirical and critical writing on Bitcointalk, although the account is no longer active.The list also includes me and several other long time members who had poked fun at Danny and other former stalwarts turned later scammers like DeathAndTaxes. The list may be statistically correct, i.e. the majority of the names on the list are or were wearing paid signatures and spamming them. But the list also includes multiple people involved in scam busting. And therefore becomes a danger to the newcomers who won't be able to see the warning and explanations of the old scams. About the latter additions I have nothing to say, neither positive or negative, I wasn't really paying attention. I'm mostly interested in scams not spam. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 18, 2016, 06:20:29 PM Danny Hamiltons list ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0 ) Danny's list started as a list of people whose arguments he couldn't refute, so he started advocating ignoring them as a signature spammers. The best example is MPOE-PR who never participated in any paid signature campaign but mercilessly and very skillfully poked fun at some of Danny's arguments. Anyone ignoring MPOE-PR would miss some of the best satirical and critical writing on Bitcointalk, although the account is no longer active.The list also includes me and several other long time members who had poked fun at Danny and other former stalwarts turned later scammers like DeathAndTaxes. The list may be statistically correct, i.e. the majority of the names on the list are or were wearing paid signatures and spamming them. But the list also includes multiple people involved in scam busting. And therefore becomes a danger to the newcomers who won't be able to see the warning and explanations of the old scams. About the latter additions I have nothing to say, neither positive or negative, I wasn't really paying attention. I'm mostly interested in scams not spam. I agree, that Dannies list is his personal thing and some accounts wouldn't be on other peoples lists, but it's a good start. My list is more focused on actual sig spamming than any foul language and personal stuff. I will update my topic later exluding you (2112) and MPOE=PR. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: Wendigo on October 18, 2016, 10:20:31 PM Ah damn my name is on that list. So after inputting this into my settings who I will be left talking to? 100% of the non-wearing paid signature elitists? What a boring world I will be living in ;D
Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: darklus123 on October 23, 2016, 04:40:08 PM Ah damn my name is on that list. So after inputting this into my settings who I will be left talking to? 100% of the non-wearing paid signature elitists? What a boring world I will be living in ;D You could also add up your own list. There would always be criticism in any part of this ideal world , I my self was also a part of that list but Quote edit: I don't see this topic in any other than Meta and I don't fear the spammers Cheesy As he quoted,, You should not also have to be afraid if you aren't a spammer. They can set their own standards to labeled someone as a spammer but in my own little ways as long as i was able to try to help someone in this community, as in my logical thinking that my ways are at least 75% of my posts are constructive then i would never be afraid to post. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: RealBitcoin on October 24, 2016, 03:35:19 AM Haha fuck you, I am on ignore list because I am giving a FREE tutorial for newbies?
Seriously fuck off people, I am trying to help newbies and this is the reward from the community? Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 24, 2016, 06:00:31 AM Haha fuck you, I am on ignore list because I am giving a FREE tutorial for newbies? Seriously fuck off people, I am trying to help newbies and this is the reward from the community? You are definitely not on this list, because you are linking to free tuts. Maybe I thought you were spamming and I was wrong or maybe you caught Dannies attention with your wording? Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2016, 06:12:00 AM Haha fuck you, I am on ignore list because I am giving a FREE tutorial for newbies? It happens. I was also on DannyHamiltons list for a while in 2015 until they've read some quoted input from me. Maybe I thought you were spamming and I was wrong or maybe you caught Dannies attention with your wording? This is why it's hard to keep a track of big lists. It would be much better to ban the blatant spammers in the first place.Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 24, 2016, 07:18:38 AM Haha fuck you, I am on ignore list because I am giving a FREE tutorial for newbies? It happens. I was also on DannyHamiltons list for a while in 2015 until they've read some quoted input from me. Maybe I thought you were spamming and I was wrong or maybe you caught Dannies attention with your wording? This is why it's hard to keep a track of big lists. It would be much better to ban the blatant spammers in the first place.Banning is an exclusive instrument for the admins. If Theymos didn't want sig spammers, he would be able stop it right away. Don't get me wrong: I support advertisement to keep this forum alive, but when people can make money with a simple quantity of postings (instead of providing content), it will of course lead to an extreme inflation of postings, with the goal to go up in ranking (to earn more money). This even has a positive side effect: A lot of people are starting to use Bitcoin wallets and some of them might follow up on the development of Bitcoin in general (which might have been Theymos' original idea of allowing sig campaigns), but for my own time and energy, the "ignore" feature of this forum is also very useful, esp. in the last year or so. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: Foxpup on October 24, 2016, 08:10:45 AM Haha fuck you, I am on ignore list because I am giving a FREE tutorial for newbies? No, you're on my list too, and I don't even ignore people based on their signatures. I'm egalitarian that way. The correlation between being on my ignore list and having a sig ad is just a coincidence, I'm sure. ::)Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: RealBitcoin on October 25, 2016, 02:52:38 AM It happens. I was also on DannyHamiltons list for a while in 2015 until they've read some quoted input from me. I dont care about individual people ignoring me, I also have a few people on ignore list. I am furious when people compile lists like these and then half of the forum uses it, on their authority. Basically following authorities, like positive trust members... So basically Danny and others are acting like censors of people, and the newbies will blindly follow these lists. And then half of the forum users is invisible, just because a few positive trust people compile a few big lists, and publish them. Pretty authoritarian. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: ibminer on October 25, 2016, 07:13:56 PM I have not gotten any explanation as to why I am on DannyHamilton's ignore list. Nor do I care. I'd rather stay on it so everyone can see how useless these lists are. Most people are smart enough to handle their own ignore list, if your not, you probably shouldn't be here. Stop treating everyone like they are idiots and you are some sort of guardian, your list is crap just like DannyHamilton's because you did not verify anything, just copied & pasted crap and added some more crap in of your own to make yourself feel unique. A heaping pile of crap this list is.
Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: RealBitcoin on October 26, 2016, 02:21:45 AM I have not gotten any explanation as to why I am on DannyHamilton's ignore list. Nor do I care. I'd rather stay on it so everyone can see how useless these lists are. Most people are smart enough to handle their own ignore list, if your not, you probably shouldn't be here. Stop treating everyone like they are idiots and you are some sort of guardian, your list is crap just like DannyHamilton's because you did not verify anything, just copied & pasted crap and added some more crap in of your own to make yourself feel unique. A heaping pile of crap this list is. This is what I was saying 1 post above. This is a stupid follow the leader mentality, bitcoin should not supposed to be like this. I love this forum, and the way moderators light moderation, it is well balanced. But when a few geniuses come up with ideas like this, massive ignore lists, what is the point on posting on the forum, when 90% of the people dont even see you? Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 26, 2016, 07:09:52 AM I have not gotten any explanation as to why I am on DannyHamilton's ignore list. Nor do I care. I'd rather stay on it so everyone can see how useless these lists are. Most people are smart enough to handle their own ignore list, if your not, you probably shouldn't be here. Stop treating everyone like they are idiots and you are some sort of guardian, your list is crap just like DannyHamilton's because you did not verify anything, just copied & pasted crap and added some more crap in of your own to make yourself feel unique. A heaping pile of crap this list is. This is what I was saying 1 post above. This is a stupid follow the leader mentality, bitcoin should not supposed to be like this. I love this forum, and the way moderators light moderation, it is well balanced. But when a few geniuses come up with ideas like this, massive ignore lists, what is the point on posting on the forum, when 90% of the people dont even see you? @RealBitcoin Are you saying that 90% of the people in this forum have a "stupid follow the leader mentality" and you haven't? Bitcoin shouldn't be like what? Ignore lists? You have made it to Dannies list maybe because he THOUGHT you were spamming. You could simply write him a PM instead of feeling personally offended. @ibminer If you don't care to be on an ignore list, why you are getting so upset? My list is like a service for people, who feel annoyed by a few sig spammers, who are actually responsible for more than 95% of the newer postings. Dannies list is not only treating sig spam, but also insulting people, general spam, trolling and some other bad habits, which I, for myself also don't want to see here. This is why I also find Dannies list very useful. Both of you guys will be unignored from my list at the next update for actually not sig spamming. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. edit: Sig Spamming is a topic which is also extensively discussed by the mods and admins and I trust that they will soon present a nice solution, which will alter the general quality of this forum. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: RealBitcoin on October 26, 2016, 07:14:52 AM @RealBitcoin Are you saying that 90% of the people in this forum have a "stupid follow the leader mentality" and you haven't? Bitcoin shouldn't be like what? Ignore lists? You have made it to Dannies list maybe because he THOUGHT you were spamming. You could simply write him a PM instead of feeling personally offended. Yes I am saying that. It is not a big discovery to realize that most people are sheep, and bitcoiners included. Bitcoiners were supposed to be individualists who don't take shit for granted (after all why did satoshi create btc if he would have been satisfied with centralized fiat money). Secondly I dont think i am on his list randomly, i had some arguments with him, it was probably caused by that. Besides I am not going to chase my masters here and beg for their forgiveness. Seriously guys, I'd expect bitcoiners to be more independent and less sheep! Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 26, 2016, 07:54:27 AM @RealBitcoin Are you saying that 90% of the people in this forum have a "stupid follow the leader mentality" and you haven't? Bitcoin shouldn't be like what? Ignore lists? You have made it to Dannies list maybe because he THOUGHT you were spamming. You could simply write him a PM instead of feeling personally offended. Yes I am saying that. It is not a big discovery to realize that most people are sheep, and bitcoiners included. Bitcoiners were supposed to be individualists who don't take shit for granted (after all why did satoshi create btc if he would have been satisfied with centralized fiat money). Secondly I dont think i am on his list randomly, i had some arguments with him, it was probably caused by that. Besides I am not going to chase my masters here and beg for their forgiveness. Seriously guys, I'd expect bitcoiners to be more independent and less sheep! I don't agree with your sheep theory at all. You seem to think, that you belong to some kind of an elite independent Bitcoiners club, while 9 out of 10 people here are only followers. Pretty strange, that you feel offended by one of your "master" whom you "don't want to chase and beg their forgiveness". Does this mean you think you belong to the "sheep club" then? I don't get it ... Satoshi made Bitcoin as an answer to the banking crisis. He thought Bitcoin could be a better money and saw it more as an experiment, which could fail in the end. It gave early adopters a significant advantage, so the Bitcoin money is spread among some computer geeks, rather than banksters and all the Bilderbergers and Rothshilds who are trying to rule the world and get rich with it. I think we are all part of a global peer to peer networking movement, which will change a lot of aspects in our lives in the future. Many intermediates will extinct and nations will have significant problems controlling it. Bitcoin is just one piece of the puzzle. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: ibminer on October 26, 2016, 08:54:29 AM @ibminer If you don't care to be on an ignore list, why you are getting so upset? My list is like a service for people, who feel annoyed by a few sig spammers, who are actually responsible for more than 95% of the newer postings. Dannies list is not only treating sig spam, but also insulting people, general spam, trolling and some other bad habits, which I, for myself also don't want to see here. This is why I also find Dannies list very useful. Both of you guys will be unignored from my list at the next update for actually not sig spamming. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. edit: Sig Spamming is a topic which is also extensively discussed by the mods and admins and I trust that they will soon present a nice solution, which will alter the general quality of this forum. Singling out sig spamming is not what this list is, which is why it's aggravating for me seeing this list repeatedly being displayed as a way to hide sig spammers when you've just admitted yourself, your list contains much more. For those that can't handle insults, trolls, and bad habits, you probably shouldn't be here and you should probably just leave the internet, or at least leave forums and any chat-based internet activities. Seeing insults, trolls, and bad habits is knowledge worth having. Children ignore everything that upsets them, adults should not. I do not like singling out DannyHamilton because he can be a helpful person to others but he has bad habits as well, and has certainly had his share of insults, but IMO that should never get him on a public "stop sig spammers" ignore list. I believe it may have been wiser to just start your own list from scratch and single out the real active targets that some people out there may want to ignore. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: AGD on October 26, 2016, 09:14:52 AM @ibminer If you don't care to be on an ignore list, why you are getting so upset? My list is like a service for people, who feel annoyed by a few sig spammers, who are actually responsible for more than 95% of the newer postings. Dannies list is not only treating sig spam, but also insulting people, general spam, trolling and some other bad habits, which I, for myself also don't want to see here. This is why I also find Dannies list very useful. Both of you guys will be unignored from my list at the next update for actually not sig spamming. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. edit: Sig Spamming is a topic which is also extensively discussed by the mods and admins and I trust that they will soon present a nice solution, which will alter the general quality of this forum. Singling out sig spamming is not what this list is, which is why it's aggravating for me seeing this list repeatedly being displayed as a way to hide sig spammers when you've just admitted yourself, your list contains much more. For those that can't handle insults, trolls, and bad habits, you probably shouldn't be here and you should probably just leave the internet, or at least leave forums and any chat-based internet activities. Seeing insults, trolls, and bad habits is knowledge worth having. Children ignore everything that upsets them, adults should not. I do not like singling out DannyHamilton because he can be a helpful person to others but he has bad habits as well, and has certainly had his share of insults, but IMO that should never get him on a public "stop sig spammers" ignore list. I believe it may have been wiser to just start your own list from scratch and single out the real active targets that some people out there may want to ignore. I never said, that my list is a pure sig spammer ignore list. I stated in my OP, that it is a hybrid of Dannies list and my anti sig spamming list, which I think works pretty good together, but I agree with you, that seperating the two lists also is a good idea for a better differentiation and I will update my OP accordingly soon. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: jackjack on October 27, 2016, 10:06:36 AM Why only two?
It would be nice to have a list for each reasonable reason one can find to block someone else Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: shorena on November 02, 2016, 08:58:27 PM I dont think achow101 or OgNasty should be on that list. It looks like you just put anyone on that list that wear(s/ed) a paid signature. E.g. how did you "verify" me? I had 11 posts in oct and 2 in sept. Its one thing if you want to do this for yourself, I dont care, but promoting this as a solution to spam does not strike me as a good idea. The "zombie accounts" is btw what makes this sound like you promote this as a solution against shit posters. Yes, you also say "if you want to see how the forum is w/o paid signatures", but to me it does not come off as the main point. Im probably biased though.
Why only two? It would be nice to have a list for each reasonable reason one can find to block someone else Here is mine: Code: Bitcoinpro Not sure why they are on it, honestly. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: Francis Freeman on December 10, 2016, 02:59:53 PM From the time I signed up to this forum, I have never joined a signature campaign, and never will. Anyway, if you want to ignore me, you are obviously free to do it. I just suggest to remove the following line... My list, is fully dedicated to signature campaigners. Title: Re: AGD's ignore list extreme Post by: frankmb on December 24, 2016, 10:42:55 AM I'm in the list, thank you for noticing me.
Somehow some people here feel that they stand above other people, don't forget to ignore my other account Dank Frank (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772595). Thank you. :) Title: I am not a child... Post by: Spoetnik on December 24, 2016, 11:00:34 AM Here is my list..
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