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What is your guys opinion on Alex Jones?

He is a very energetic fellow, straightforward and gets to the point. But can he be trusted? He openly supports Trump and hates globalists from what he says in his videos. I want to believe and support Alex Jones and believe that it is the right thing to do, but I am not sure who to trust anymore. One thing is for sure. I do not trust the mainstream media, liberal or republican,but why should I trust the non-mainstream media?

Thoughts?

I have seen many of Alex Jones' videos on his YouTube channel and have visited his website Infowars in the past, and he is definitely a unique, energetic guy. I am not a supporter of Jones but find his videos entertaining. He takes many of the controversial and conspiracy theories of the left and runs with it. If I remember correctly, he was one of the first to openly support Trump when no one thought he had a chance, and has been attacking the mainstream media for many years. I am a Republican, but mainly watch his videos for the entertainment factor.

I agree with you completely, Alex Jones is part of the alt-right haha. He is truly a great guy but takes things a bit far sometimes for ratings. His supplement and apocalypse prepping brands constantly being pushed is a bit annoying.

I've paid attention to Jones and Infowars off and on for about 15 years.  I first heard of the guy when I saw a clip of him warning of a false-flag where 'they'll probably blame Bin Laden or someone like that' which was supposed to have been shot prior to 9/11, but I've never seen the timing validated (or looked real hard.)

I've never totally trusted the guy, but his performance over the 2016 election cycle has elevated my evaluation of his trustworthiness by a fair margin.

From a recent relevant thread:


Going a bit farther, Jones' crew were about the only ones I know of who did a lot of on-the-street interviews which I find valuable.

My current strategy is to not really value any news from any outlet which claims to be 'neutral'.  I don't think that almost anyone is, and even if they are, it is difficult to verify.  So, I listen mostly to outlets who are very up-front about who/what they support (infowars, tyt, etc), and internally I make an adjustment for their known bias.  Paying regular attention lets me gauge how much a given organization is willing to stretch the truth (which is why I watch the likes of TYT, CNN, etc mostly as a way to keep tabs on the left-wing propaganda game plan.)

If you throw enough crap at the wall it eventually sticks to the wall and that is the premise for a lot of his theories on the world.
Think about the third hour I think it is,when the average caller gets a chance to relate or impress Alex. Their intelligence is on full display or the broken emotional state is evident among
the listeners. You can not believe everything he says as he himself can get quite unbalanced when discussing issues.
He is a cheaper Glen Beck as he parades around like they are two different people.

so who else is watching alex jones for the past 15 years LoL

its ok, you can say it - nobody will call the people in white suits  ;D

btw. i really like alex jones babble about lizard people and E.T. taking over the world (TPTB = Aliens)


nowadays you can literaly make money with shit - long live the internet.

I think Alex Jones is only supporting Trump to take advantage of a trend to gain more followers. His website and videos are littered with product ads and it is obvious he only cares about money now.

I guess you have been watching him for longer than I because I've never heard him say anything about lizard people and E.T.  If anything, he pokes fun as such things .  He has guests who sometimes say some way-out stuff.  Even here, neither Jones nor probably most of his audience put to much stock into some of these things and, occasionally, it turns out that we should have.

The 'pizzagate' thing is shaping up to be as real as a heart attack.  Someone lamented on reddit or somewhere 'Why can't we just have a world where Alex Jones is not always right.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHHtVC75g1c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHHtVC75g1c)

He actually does some good videos, but he does meander on a bit.
This video is about the FED Banning Fireplaces And Wood, take a look it is informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25OsRVc7e0

129,191 views in one day, that is more than most MSM news websites get.

Alex Jones: Aliens, Goverment and Sorros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDlJRX-YKKc


dont forget to visit http://store.infowars.com/ afterwards and get some "Brain Force Plus" - On Sale just for 30.00$!!!


LOL
 ;D

im reading here that alex bragged about advising trump to keep his campaign safe from shapeshifting lizards - true story?!  :D

Shapeshifting lizards are more like David Icke's or Art Bell's thing. Alex Jones is more into the general globalist conspiracy theory stuff.

It seems that some people on here trust him, some don't and some like me are still unsure. In my opinion, it is obvious AJ does whatever he thinks is best for him and his
family. He wants money, he wants power. His cliche is to attack globalists and stuff like that. But, I am still not convinced. Is he controlled opposition? Or is the game just really crazy and everyone (politicians) simply do whatever will benefit them short term.

Pretty good vid.  I'd forgotten or never seen that one.  As expected, nothing about extra-terrestrials.

I actually do 'believe in' 'aliens' of the ET type.  The chances that earth was the only place where life developed is as near to nill as is possible.  Only one tiny fraction above that would be that we happened to be out in front in terms of advancement.  I figure that by-n-large the potato-head aliens who might have the technology to get here follow what I would expect to be a fundamental law of the universe...'leave the primitives alone', and especially the revolting ones as humans must be.

The occultist types seem to think they can punch a worm-hole through the shield or some such.  I actually wouldn't rule out that some sort of other-worldy 4-chan does send them goodies from time to time just for the lulz.

Back to Jones, I actually did buy a couple hundred bucks worth of shit I didn't especially need from them a few months ago just as a token of my gratitude for their fine work.  Heirloom seeds was the biggest ticket item, and I actually did want seeds which were limited in terms of hybridization and multi-national corporation patents and such.  The packaging was outstanding and there was a nice instruction sheet about how to harvest the seeds for the next year's crop.

I got some of the infowars store 'nutraceuticals' also.  And even some 'brain force' if I recall correctly.  Since I don't fully trust that the outfit is not some deep cover CIA operation, and I would consider the very best way to poison a lot of the 'undesirables' would be to distribute through a site which draws a particular kind of clientele, I've not indulged in any of them and don't expect to for a while.  Except the iodine.  This has made no difference to my being whatsoever.  I doubt that I am iodine deficient though.  I'm a hard-core saltaholic and I used iodized salt.  Always have.

I obtained but have not used some of the infowars store selenium.  Ironically, the day after I placed my order, the news came out that selenium very likely quashes any of the already few potential issues with 'zika'.

I've either read or theorized that a good way to make more people like you (~criptix) and others who would be Hillary supporters would be to try to refine out certain critical trace elements and compounds from the food supply.  Likewise or in addition, flood the environment with harmful elements that inhibit the uptake of necessary trace ones.  The technology probably exists today to produce 'designer' weapons which leverage certain deficits and result in problems.  We know from the wikileaks that Podesta and his friends are delighted to have the peeps be stupid.  When the zika/selenium observation came out I was, needless to say, fascinated.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305278846_Antisense_inhibition_of_selenoprotein_synthesis_by_Zika_virus_may_contribute_to_neurological_disorders_and_microcephaly_by_mimicking_selenoprotein_P_knockout_and_the_genetic_disease_progressive_cerebe (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305278846_Antisense_inhibition_of_selenoprotein_synthesis_by_Zika_virus_may_contribute_to_neurological_disorders_and_microcephaly_by_mimicking_selenoprotein_P_knockout_and_the_genetic_disease_progressive_cerebe)

What supplements does he shill?

My friend is a die had alex jones fan, so I like to make fun of him a lot. When I see some of the stuff AJ says, I make funny jokes and say he sells enlargement pills, I mean by looking at this title, how does it not seem that way? http://store.infowars.com/Super-Male-Vitality-_p_1227.html

 But, in reality I don't even know what benefits these supplements have. Have a look for yourself folks. I guess people buy that stuff to support him.

From what I've seen (NOTE: I don't watch his videos, though I've seen enough snippets from various sources to get an approximate picture), he kind of seems like the usual cynical conspiracy theorist, looking to bank on the fears of the gullible with his snake oil products. If it's too hard to stomach his talks, this might give you an opinion (biased, but still valid IMO) and maybe even a laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHbAsndSKXA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHbAsndSKXA)

I often listening to him for entertainment. He is right 20 30% of the time, but then, a broken clock is right 2 times a day, so its not much to brag about.
No Obama murder even if he said over and over again that it was the only way for "the new world order" to go forward.
Had a bilderberger insider that was wrong over and over all the time, don't remember his name, but the dollar should have collapsed 3 years ago and oil should be 100 dollars a gallon by now.
Everyone that don't agree with him is devil worshipers, it seems.
And he got sex on his brain. Can't say a name of a celebrity of some sort without saying what kind of sexual preferences he thinks they have.
Russia launched Rockets to USA new years eve 1999 to take advantage of the y2k thingie. (They haven't landed yet)
List goes on and on.

He has his own supplements that he advertises on his website, videos and radio shows. http://store.infowars.com/

I have fairly little respect for the 'I do not listen to Jones, but...' types.  If you've only heard snippets edited together by those who are threatened by him, you probably don't have very valuable input.  I've listened to Jones off and on for a long time and the things he's been screaming from the rooftops about (police state, corporate world govt, etc) have proven remarkably on-target.  Just having some of these things in my list of hypothesis under consideration have been very valuable to me over the years, and he commonly produces items which I would not have stumbled across on my own.

Beyond that, without almost any exception that I can think of Jones' messages about how the divide and conquer techniques involving race, sexual identity, etc, are a scam that we should not fall for are universally good messages to communicate.

I do have some concerns about some of Jones' staff from time to time.  If there are establishment sponsored efforts to get a race war going (for instance), I think that Infowars would do well to catalog things in a less one-sided way sometimes.  Yes, the mainstream media (who are perfectly happy to promote scam events to the max) need a counter-balance, but it is only doing their bidding to provide a lop-sided view from the other side.

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Sorry about that. Dang.

Been listening to him for many years and most of the time he is of target.
the dollar collapse didn't happen.
the Obama murder didn't happen.
The Russian attack never happen.
and so on.
If callers call in with a fantastic story that fit into his reality he never looks up the facts, he call it the truth.
On the other hand if a caller conflicts with his idea. He looks it up and it he find something wrong, like it was a boy instead of a girl that reported it, it's the story of the week

Yup.  Looks like it's gone.  That's why god make youtube-dl I guess.  When a piece of info falls into the memory hole it makes it especially interesting to me.

I had anticipated a pretty good possibility that the establishment would steal the election and knew what came directly after.  Namely, an 'operation fake-news' with some real teeth and a large expansion of the memory hole.  I thus started collecting a lot more shit which I thought might be of interest.  Though it's diminishing with the Trump/Bannon win, I'm still in that mode out of habit.

BTW, for those who use youtube-dl, note that you can use the -F flag to see a lot of different formats for a particular item and -f {n} to select one.  As someone using satellite and paying a good bit for bandwidth it's pretty useful do snatch things in lower res.

Fair critiques.  Thanks for tossing them out there.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alex+jones+extraterrestrials


btw. you dont have to be a hillary supporter while you are anti trump lol

50 shades of grey you know.

I can certainly understand your desire to distance yourself from the woman and I'm sure there are many many others feeling the same way.  Will it work?  Kinda depends on who gets a hold of what of the NSA's trove I suspect.

In 'other news', isn't it funny how, with under two months left, the Obama admin is quite desperate to make some structural and personnel changes at the NSA.

Cool. I have very little respect for cynical conspiracy theorists banking on the fears of the gullible (as well as the people that follow them).

On the contrary: it's good to hear input of people outside of your echo chamber (I wouldn't post in "Politics & Society" if I thought otherwise). Circle jerking doesn't usually breed good discussions or encourage the spread of different opinions. Also, I really doubt a small Youtuber who trolls both intelligent and foolish people alike for the lolz is really threatened by a guy who clearly has a financial interest in his theories being true.

Nobody's denying that a person can have both valid and ridiculous claims. However, I truly doubt he's the only one talking about such issues and in regards to the numerous political, economic and societal problems all around the world, I'd rather listen to someone who doesn't try to jam "The All-New Supercharged Brain Force PLUS™" down your throat with jaw dropping sensationalist statements like (source (http://www.infowarsstore.com/brain-force-2-pack.html)):

I...er...hmmm.  With examples like these, it's really hard to take you seriously. I'll try though. First of all, just looking through a single page of his channel, you can clearly see that he's heavily biased for Trump (far right in general) and against Hillary (not sure about third party candidates though). Now, having biases is fine, however claiming that he's an objective news source is severely false IMO.

this guy has an agenda, and an incredibly obvious one, that he'll apply to whatever he can get his hands on. i don't trust anyone like that to ever be anywhere near objective. i guess he'd probably admit that too.

the internet has allowed this type of stuff to explode. it's fine for what it is, but it doesn't do much to increase the quality of information out there. it makes more noise, and most of it's unhelpful noise.

Fine with me if you don't.

For my part, I have for a while quite deliberately mostly gotten news from 'adversarial' sources.  For instance, I put a lot more credence into what RT says about the US than I do CNN.  Of course when it comes to figuring out about Russia, I don't put much stock in RT at all.

I offset for a known bias which is not difficult for me to do.  The sucky part is that to be fair, I have to buckle down and force myself to watch the likes of TYT which isn't always pleasant these days.

I don't believe that it is a stretch at all to suggest that TPTB and their MSM wing have 'conspiracies' to foment and utilize socio-economic issues, up to and including 'race war' if they can and need to pull it off.  Fortunately Blacks and others are not stupid and more and more of them see the game and are not falling for it.

Nor do I think it much of a stretch that TPTB would use scientific means in a systematic way to arrange the 'sort of character' (to quote Russell) that the leadership wants to be leading.

Once introduced to these theories they have remarkable explanatory power and a lot of current and historical observations fall right into place.  I thank Jones, among others, for his work in doing such introductions.

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Infowars has been, to me, a top notch source of flat out reliable information over the 2016 election cycle.  I'm glad to see them enjoy the fruits of their labor and getting the recognition they deserve (ranked now 126th web site so they claim.)  The magnitude of the attacks by the lamestream press speak volumes about what a threat to the establishment Infowars presents.

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As for their funding, I think it showed some real foresight (or something) on the part of Jones to decouple himself to a degree from traditional ad revenue and the like.  He would have fallen more victim to the pressures on other similar information outlets.  I just hope that Jones expands his inventory to include more shit that I want.

What I personally want is high 'Japan style' quality in items I buy even if I have to pay a lot more.  I think it a given that the U.S. has been 'destroyed by design' economically (and otherwise) by those seeking to implement a one-world Technocracy and not wanting competition of various forms from us.  If Trump follows through with his 're-industrialization' ideas then there will be some re-tooling here in the U.S.  I'd like to see the focus being on durable and quality stuff and I hope that Infowars latches on to distribution of such in order to enhance revenue.  I'd buy through them at a premium just to support their work (assuming they continue to perform.)

Looking at Alex Jones' YouTube channel now, he does have nearly two million followers, and about 50,000-100,000 views per video on a daily basis. He does have a large following that is continuing to increase, especially after this Presidential election. I will continue to watch his videos but am not to keen on his conspiracy theories on the left, although I am sure a few have been proven correct after the Wikileaks scandal. Jones has been one of the vocal supporters to still prosecute and jail Hillary Clinton.

His channel boomed after the trump win and during election day and the election process. Obviously, he is benefiting from Trump's victory, if not in more sales then in
google ad-sense money. I wonder if his son and Trumps son are going to be best buds in the future.Good ole America.

Not sure how I feel about him. Maybe he's a shill or a reptile, who knows. Maybe he's not really white, IDK.

Book review on Roger Stone's 'The making of the President 2016' which I bought through Infowars.

The main reason I buy media these days is as a show of gratutude to a content generator who's material I've appreciated.  This purchase was an example.

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The book was reasonably well written given the time constraints and the supposed health issue that Stone experienced.  Stone (or his ghost-writer as may be the case) has a readable writing style which is neither to dense nor to light for my tastes.

The book was almost without exception a simple documentation of events.  It contained very little which was especially debatable.  As such it can be reliable for reference.  Although a somewhat larger book than I thought, and the various events were covered briskly, a lot of minutia was left out including some of the most entertaining episodes.

Since Infowars was probably my main source of information from the midpoint onwards and Stone was a big player there, I sort of thought that he was more integral to Trumps campaign than the book indicates.

There was very little theory in the book.  I followed this election (and only this election) like a hawk when I started around Super Tue which made it so not much in the books content was new to me.  Of course there were reminders of little things I'd forgotten (such as Pence endorsing Cruz) so it was not a terribly exciting read.

Hopefully Stone will do a follow-up or someone else deeply involved will and it will be more encompassing of the theory and practice of presidential politics applied to 2016.  Maybe even Trump will write such a thing...I suspect he personally was more involved than anyone since Nixon.  Especially notable since he is (or was) not a professional politician.

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One last little note which is a little bit disappointing vis-a-vis Trump.  Stone clearly has no use for Lewindowski and didn't paint a very endearing picture of the guy, but observation also indicates that he was something of an obstruction and lacking in some ways.  My guess about Trump was that he would have recognized the problem and gotten rid of it (e.g., you're fired!)  This (purported) failure is worth noting as we try to analyze Trump's performance as POTUS.

I was sort of sensing that Trump was going to get rid of Lewindowski before the 'arm grab' incident.  Since it was a bullshit incident it actually made it difficult for him to do so.  He could, however, have started Lewindowski on the fast track out and made it so he could't as easily have done the kind of things that Stone reports vis-a-vis interfering with Manafort's tasks.  I had hoped to get some more incite into Trump's thoughts (or lack thereof) about such incidents which I could only muse about when they were happening.  I guess I'll have to wait for Trump himself to write about them if he stay's 'healthy.'

Alex Jones is one of the people who I see in two lights, he's a guy who will go out and be super straight forward about what he believes and I do like a person like that, though I'm not a fan of everything he speaks I would consider him to have a conservative bias the same way the Mainstream media has a liberal bias.

People may say that Alex is absolutely mad and is crazy and I could agree to them to a certain extent, but at least we know how insane he is compared to the people who do everything behind the curtains. He kind of reminds me of Trump when he is very outright with what he thinks and how he says things.

True as long as you are not a voting citizen of the USA.  For those that are, it does reduce to a binary decision.

For anyone else, I get what you are saying.

What he said is not the truth? Everyone knows that Putin is a murderer. Congress confirmed it literally next day. In General, if you watch Russian TV and there are worse words to hear the Americans.

Unfortunately, while initially I was supporting him because I thought that he was telling some truths it revealed that only talks about bogus conspiracy theories and I believe that he is controlled by the system itself. Also in cases where some of them he mentions are indeed truly I believe that their supporters want to see and measure the reactions of the people. More over I would like to ask if Alex Jones is  Bill Hicks  (http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2013/08/alex-jones-is-bill-hicks-proof-hicks.html) or not. So what is the truth? maybe alex jones is a fabricated identity?

Putin is a killer. There really is a lot of evidence of this. It is not possible to deny it. Trump knows it, and uses the theme of Putin's provocation. He turned politics into the controversial show.

I think we're all waiting to see if Trump's a total Illuminati gobot or not, so far things that stink are Goldman Sachs and Elon Musk. Jones on the other hand has been warning us that the globalists are baby eating psychopaths for years.

https://i.imgur.com/Y1n0lzs.jpg

I don't think Alex really knows what Trump is capable of. After seeing what he is doing and how he talks to others in his government I doubt he will last long. He seems to be making enemies of everyone that doesn't do as he wants. This can only lead to massive troubles for the US and probably the rest of the world.

As for Alex's show well, its okay I guess. I stopped watching his stuff and all conspiracy stuff for a long time now. Its just a waste of time.

In his speeches and decrees of the President of Trump provokes scandals and pits people and countries together. This increases the rankings in the show, but very bad for policy. The consequences will be bad.

Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Promoting 'Pizzagate' (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/215143-2017-03-26-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-apologizes-for-promoting-pizzagate.htm)


http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016/12/06/gettyimages-585095880_sq-0438b1ec9a30baf3a6e7f431f112e584baab6b67-s400-c85.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/215143-2017-03-26-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-apologizes-for-promoting-pizzagate.htm)




Read more at http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/26/521545788/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-apologizes-for-promoting-pizzagate.


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As I have said before, Alex Jones is a fearmonger, plain and simple. There is no positivity from that camp. Only paranoia. It wasn't so bad when it was just conspiracy theory, as the audience didn't really participate in mainstream society for the most part, and couldn't influence policy through votes. Now that this has gotten a more prominent voice in mainstream American media ( becuase in this day and age, InfoWars is news, while CNN gets lambasted as false), some of his listener actually vote, and I think that he is partially responsible for the current wave of populism/anti government sentiment. We elected a guy that said from the beginning he wasnt a politician. It's like hiring a dentist to fix your car.

It is not as cut and dried as that.

Alex Jones expresses much truth. Yet, being a man, he can and does make mistakes at times.

The truth that Alex Jones expresses is warnings for us. And, since he warns us, the people who want to harm us often back off, because they realize their gig has been exposed, and we will take action if they try to make it real. So, they back off, and Alex Jones looks a little foolish for even suggesting that they were doing something, since what Alex said didn't happen.

But if Alex had NOT warned us, they would have gone through with their operation, and we would have been worse off for it.

There are many others besides Alex Jones. Another great one is Dave Hodges.

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What President such as he and supporters. I can't even talk about. All that said Trump and his supporters is nonsense. I see that Trump is losing his war in the Senate. He's already lost the restriction on the entry of Muslims, the abolition of medical reform of Obama. Not subside scandals Affairs of his team with the Kremlin. What does he have to do to get people turned away from him. Alex Jones of same sells Russian journalist. As they say "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are".

The fact that Trump lost some things shows that all Presidents are nonsense.

Obama was out after his two terms. Who else is there that would be any better than Trump or Obama? Nobody that was likely to get elected.

If Hillary got elected, she probably would have extended the time before the crash longer than Trump will. But her crash would be far more sever than Trump's will, just because of the extension.

Sanders would have brought about formal rebellion by trying to implement stuff in the way Hitler did.

Who else is there?

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Fortunately there is Congress and the Senate. No matter who is President, but in America there is a system of balances. Moreover, in America there is an independent judiciary. He, too, is haunted senile Trump.

Congress isn't in favor of the people any more than the president might be. And people don't know how to fight either the president or congress. All people do is protest, thereby showing that they aren't making use of their authority.

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All politicians do nothing for the people. People are interested in them only during elections, but then when they get power in their hands they forget about their promises and exclusively devoted to their challenges. Unfortunately, so are the politics.

The one problem I've always had with Alex Jones and some of the people on the far right / alt right movement is that they don't really know when to be serious and when to joke around. They mix the two things way to much to the point of people not being able to understand what they're saying which leads to people not taking them seriously.

I do think Alex Jones is very passionate about what he does, he may put out a false story or two but at least it's less then CNN and the other fake news stories. Personally, I'm not a fan of reading nor listenting to him as I don't like to confirm what I already believe.

I'd like to see many opposing viewpoints and see what I take in.

Valuable critique.  Thanks for stating it.

For my part I know that I listen to more of Infowars work lately than I wish (particularly because it cuts into my time of studying the works of others.)  Trouble is, they are doing a lot of decent work by virtue of having good sources and doing good field work at the moment compared to their less well funded competition.

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As a separate post:

My view of Jones is that he knows who not to cross.  It is an ongoing source of interest to me to figure out whether he pulls his punches in certain instances because he is weighing the cost/benefit (and if so he is probably making reasonable calculations), or whether he is a phony who is working on embedding himself deeply.  If the latter, he's done so to an impressive degree thus far.

The answer to the riddle will only be known for sure in retrospect.  In the mean time we just have to watch for various clues.  For my part I'm actively entertaining both options and others.  I resolve to not be herded in any direction without some degree of thought.

Jones lost primary custody of his kids to his ex wife who (accd to Jones) is finally out of re-hab or whatever.  I'd say that Jones continues to learn about the Jewdicial system here in the USI, and I suspect he'll keep on learning.

Jones publicly 'councils' Trump to fight back and don't compromise because his adversaries are not going to give him a break...though that was back when people genuinely thought that Trump might be 'for real.'  It will be interesting to see if Jones finally takes his own advice, or whether he and his Inforwars outfit continue to act as gatekeepers protecting the Zionist masters as Rebecca drags the kids off to Marina Abramovic 'spirit cooking' events and whatever else is calculated to get Jones' goat.  Hopefully the poor kids survive without to much damage.

back when people genuinely thought that Trump might be 'for real..
You said it  " MIGHT "

Might win the lottery  :D.

But you must understand if Clinton would of won 15 to 20 years before you NOW understand because trump win that nothing will change UNLESS you the American people change the system..

Trump is much better than Clinton..
When she said she means one thing in public and another in private that says it all.
2 faced liar ..

Now you got 3 half years to VOTE for a real politician who does care for the people..
BUT still Trump might do something good yet give him 2 years and if not vote for a real people politician

But can you vote for someone the people want or is it always the money people who fix it..

TOTAL CAPITALISM ..Is a dog eat dog world it will also creates a world full of liars ..
Always lying to get money <TOTAL CAPITALISM ..

Under fund they lie .
need funding they lie..
politicians they lie to rob our taxes.
people stealing they lie..
How many hours did you work they lie..Pay less tax.
Sickness benefits they lie..Oh i am sicker than i really am..

TOTAL CAPITALISM ..WE NEED TO LIE..
So we have a planet FULL OF GREEDY LIARS..Total capitalism and you Americans LOVE IT..
But some are better liars than others and get away with MURDER.<POLITICIANS ..

A lot different than mary saying she only worked 10 hours instead of 20 in case the benefit system stops her working tax credits..

But you see we create liars..Mary with her tax credits..
Tony blair made millions off people dying..Mary never..

Trump is very cynical by nature, but at the same time this person can and will do much for the country. Of course, in my understanding, the country and people are different things.

This thread is too funny

I can't believe all the idiots on here who listen to Alex Jones

Guy is a total con-man selling you snake oil... he doesn't even try to hide it

Fact check ANYTHING he says...

I've seen a few of his videos, and can't go more than 2 minutes without catching him talking out his ass

Seriously... watch him for 2 minutes and use google to fact check whatever he says... he'll be wrong/lying at least once every 2 minutes... guaranteed

In court he even admitted he is "He is playing a character"... "He is a performance artist."

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/329071-alex-jones-playing-a-character-says-lawyer (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/329071-alex-jones-playing-a-character-says-lawyer)


Come on guys... how can you take this shitbag seriously?
Use your fucking brains

Bernie Sanders BRILLIANT takedown of Trump's First 100 Days In Office
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Now to Mr Bernie sanders ..You can say what you like about trump BUT YOU YES YOU are a stinking
politician you get out of politics you horrible PIG..Bernie is a traitor to the people so he no different..

You can talk all the talk BERNIE but you are a load of SHIT..SO GO YOU OLD FOOL ..

Now i will tell you why..

You knew Hillary Clinton fixed the election so she could win your seat and YOU SAID NOTHING..

You should of had her in court and got her done for FRAUD but you never you let her win and said nothing.
And then even stood by her when she was on her campaign to be president..

YOU SCUM BAG..You had the CHANCE to show the world what went on and you stuck by her..RAT.

THAT MAKE YOU THE SAME AS THE REST ..Greedy liars..
You stuck up for the elite..OH YES YOU DID BERNIE..

So GO OLD MAN..TALKING THE TALK ..BUT FULL OF SHIT..

You could of brought her down BUT YOU NEVER..RAT BAG..

I do listen to Alex Jones on a regular basis(every night) and feel that he does deliver a powerful message. I don't believe the mainstream media any longer and he does report the news in a different and interesting way. Sometimes I do believe he goes off the deep end but in the end he does report the news in an interesting and easy to follow way. I understand where some people are coming from when they say he is crazy, maybe I'm crazy too.

I don't think Alex Jones can be trusted. Then again I'm the kind of person who doesn't trust anyone anyway but his accusations are often completely uneducated and I don't trust his sources. He also has now said that a large part of the way he acts is for entertainment so I think my suspicions are rooted enough in fact to be logical.

I agree with this except that I see no sign of insanity.  I've throttled back my intake of their info and am back to scanning occasionally to see if they have something which is potentially interesting.


It may seem odd, but I agree with this as well.  I don't believe that Jones ever tried to pretend that a part of his 'act' was not for 'entertainment' value.  That does not mean he doesn't have a message to get across and often enough it seems like a good message to me.  To the degree that doing it in an entertaining manner is effective, that's not objectionably to me.

My beef with 2017 Jones and Infowars is that they are now fairly clearly acting as gatekeepers for Zionists at least.  Whether they are under duress or being paid off or simply cannot maintain a viable media business at scale by doing otherwise is unknown to me.

That does not mean that they don't produce a lot of good information.  They do.  It DOES mean that their analysis of our complex political landscape is UNRELIABLE and one MUST augment a lot of their work product with external research (or just go on being an ignorant sheep in many areas.)

I do not really trust the Infowars bluster about being 'under attack' from Google and their ilk.  Maybe they are, or maybe it is a ploy to get people to support them more.  It's actually difficult to know without seeing their books and I would not take Jones's word for it.

As I said before, I had supported Infowars financial quite a lot in the later part of the election because I appreciated their on-the-street reporting.  I have quite a collection of books that I wanted anyway from Infowars store, and quite a sample collection of their magic potions.  Having some suspicions about them off and on over the years, I actually didn't plan on actually consuming them and they sit on my shelf unmolested to this day for later use and/or testing and probably will be for some time.

I'll not be buying anything more from Infowars until they get real about Trump and stop being such ass-lickers.  Some of their reporters seem to be trying to.  If they continue to get resistance from Jones (assuming that is happening) I hope they walk like Dykes and Melton did.

The guy is truly delusional. The proof is in the pudding. He had sex with 150 women by the time he was 16? I believe he believes it.

Infowars core seems to have gone full Israel-first neocon.  Just lately they've gone full Kusher-good/Bannon-bad which really settles it.  How much of this direction is following Trump and how much is leading him is a subject of debate.

 - Some of Jones' reporters such as Shroyer have gone the way of PJW and got with the Zionist program.
 - Some of them seem to have been flat-out fired (e.g., the two black ones.)
 - Some of them seemed to have moved home and contribute periodically (e.g., the female ones and the vet.)
 - Some of them spun off into oblivion (e.g., David Knight.)
 - The new ones seem to be hard-core neocon shills (e.g., Psobiec, Cernovich, Kumia, etc.)

Jones knows in some detail what the Zionists are up to, and I've heard him expand on it in the past.  If he's flipped, how/why did this happen?  One hypothesis is that Jones is dirty as hell.  Some supposed insiders attest to this, and Jones himself is trickling out little things like his 'not perfect' status and his sleep-overs with Charlie Sheen.  Could be that Mossad has dirt on Jones (along with 2/3 of the rest of our public figures.)  The Roy Cohn trained bi-curious Jew (so they say) Roger Stone teamed up with Jones about the time he seemed to accelerate his flip which adds weight to the hypothesis that he's been compromised.

Jones does seem to be pumping his magic bean pills like crazy lately so it's possible that he's going to capitalize on his years of somethimes very good work and clear out of town.

I still listen to Infowars quite a lot.  The simple reason for this is that no matter what Jone's actual game, he has a momentum which keeps good info coming in.  Understanding Infowars gives one the tools to filter and thus un-twist the information coming out of his machine.

Not so much bluebeam (yet), but certainly other forms of sensory input.  I don't consider it 'sad' exactly.  Just another challenge.  The silver lining is that because of the necessary increase in rigor, the end result of one's work product is that much stronger.


"Those who control the present control the past..."  Orwell was clearly familiar with the protocols, but then so were a lot of learned persons.


'Oral Torah'/Talmud --> Kabbalah --> Lucifarianism/Satanism/Freemasonry/New-age/lots-of-other-shitty-things.

So, yeah, there is an element of legitimacy to 'the Jews did it' line, but it's much much to simplistic of course.  It seems to be basically true that 'the Jews' essentially own my government here in the U.S. (at least), and that's enough to to be concerned about and thus enough to analyze.

In the spirit of Jones' undercover video of the Moloch sacrifice at the Bohemian Grove here's an undercover video of a sacrifice to Shiva at CERN.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cBBvYdBeu8s (https://hooktube.com/watch?v=cBBvYdBeu8s)

With the latest Syria bombing Jones finally had enough of Trump and went off.  Jones is an actor and a good one, but I happened to see his tirade live and studied parts of it which were captured and there are some indications that it is at least in part for real.

The 'transmission' which I just got done listening to contains some indications that Jones has expanded his research into some critical areas.  If he's been doing this for the last number of months I'd not have noticed because I've watched very little.  I did notice a couple of new faces who seem OK (though I did also see Kumia bumming around and I think the guy is a rat.)

Anyway, some of Jone's work of the last 48 hours is sufficient to give me and excuse to buy some more of his toothpaste.  Since I like the stuff I've been tempted to buy some anyway but refused as long as he's been being a Trump apologist and Zionist shill douche-bag.

So the tech giants finally did it.  Infowars banned, and this time it doesn't seem to be just Jones bitching about something which didn't seem to have happened.

A common strategy among the Zionist gatekeeper class who play the right-leaning goyim is to get 'banned' for their 'brave' speech.  This builds credibility in the (dull) eyes of the base, but ultimately they are mysteriously un-banned right away.  I'll wait and see what happens with Jones.

If the ban is 'for real' Jones got badly fucked (unless he just wants to retire.)  Firstly, by being such a blatant Zionist shill he lost a bunch of his audience.  I watch him a fair bit during the election because he (and only he) had reporters on the ground, and it's hard to fake such footage.  I also bought a lot of his overpriced potions (which remain unopened) out of appreciation.  Not to long afterwards I couldn't take his Zionist gatekeeping and stopped watching at all.

I figured Jones either went hard-core Zionist gatekeeper to try to preserve his graces in corp/gov, or he really is a Zionist douche with an unusually deep cover.  If he really got hosed, and he is not just the Zionist he pretended to be, he could really go ballistic and come up with some real hard-hitting analysis.  I'm sure that Jones has a LOT of goodies obtained over the years in his grab-bag.

Of course if Jones is 'for real' he'll most likely he will commit suicide tonight by hanging himself and shooting himself twice it the back of the head with a shotgun.  Of course any 'conspiracy theories' about his demise will be considered 'hate speech' and removed from Jewtube.

I'm not that familiar with him. It seems like he's got a bit overboard. I think he's right raise a lot of the topics that he does. Like somebody said here, he's certainly right about some things, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. I think sometimes people get too carried away in conspiracy theories. Do conspiracies exist? One hundred percent, yes! But does that mean there is a conspiracy in everything? No, of course it doesn't. I would definitely take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Download while you can.


Apple and Google haven’t banned Infowars apps, and their downloads are booming - https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/7/17660564/apple-google-infowars-app-ban-downloads (https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/7/17660564/apple-google-infowars-app-ban-downloads)


The InfoWars app is now ranked fourth for “news” in Apple’s App Store - https://qz.com/1350641/the-infowars-app-is-now-ranked-fourth-for-news-in-apples-app-store/ (https://qz.com/1350641/the-infowars-app-is-now-ranked-fourth-for-news-in-apples-app-store/)


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Or don't.  There is a possibility that this 'censorship' is all for show.  I do know that when I visit 'infowars.com' the website bloats my browser with something to the point where I have to kill the whole thing in order to get function back.  Could that something be a scan of my HDD?  I could figure it out if I had the time/interest but so far have not had either.

I give high odds that this recent InfoWars/Jones stuff is just what it seems and that Jones was doing his Zionist gatekeeping just to try to stay in business (and yes, he may have had some contacts in the private (or quasi-private) intel agencies such as was exposed in the StratFor e-mail hack) but Jones is primarily on the side of 'red blooded Americans'.  That is, however, not the only possibility.  I would not bet the security of any device which had sensitive data on one possibility or the other.  Just sayin'

Jones profits off of selling stereotypes and one-sided arguments. He's been spinning a thread for so long that he's nearly wrapped himself up in it fully. It's good that he's exposing info that mainstream media doesn't usually deal with, but his bias is so strong that he's losing clarity himself.

Before hating on people for supporting Trump, understand that Trump is the illusion himself. He is a massive distraction from more important issues that are happening behind the scenes, and the media focus so much on him just to get people to waste their energy. He is a puppet, and he is playing the clown as he does so. He clearly wants to show that he is the boss of himself.

If you want something that exposes the truth but isn't blatantly shoving bias in your face, look at Abby Martin. She's clearly against the US, but she piles up the evidence to give a reason for it.

Jones had this 'crazy paranoid conspiracy theory' that the corporate tech giants were going team up and take his InfoWars site down.

What a nut-case and a kook!  It would never happen in America.  Right?  Ooops.

If you've paid attention to Jones' work over the last nearly two decades as I have, you'll find a LOT of the 'crazy conspiracy theories' that the guy has expounded upon have later proven to have been dead on.  If you get your information from The Daily Show you probably will not have noticed this so much.

I first heard of Alex Jones slightly post 9/11 when he was on a rant about how 'they' were going to stage a big terrorist incident and 'will probably blame it on someone like Osama bin-Laden.'  Supposedly the rant occurred prior to 9/11, but I've never been able to verify this 100%.

EXCLUSIVE: 'Thank you Apple, Facebook and YouTube!'... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/245216-2018-08-08-exclusive-thank-you-apple-facebook-and-youtube.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/533-0808153114-4EC16AF500000578-0-image-a-11533734330467.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/245216-2018-08-08-exclusive-thank-you-apple-facebook-and-youtube.htm)




Read more at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6039753/Alex-Jones-says-5-6-million-people-subscribed-Infowars-Apple-ban.html.


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Alex Jones hides behind the 1st amendment. Thank god private companies are finally taking a stand.

All to often Alex Jones capitulates to the fiat money masters who now pretty much own the U.S. and pusses out when he could legitimately 'hide behind' the 1st amendment and use it for exactly what it was designed for.  Namely to call bullshit our 'leaders' who are not in any way interested in the United States except for how our resources and our people can be milked.  To accuse these people of having 'dual loyalties' is being far to generous.

Even as Jones hedges around Sandy Hook I'll come right out and say it:  The thing was a flat out hoax and the 'parents' are frauds.  They also put themselves in the public eye by taking jobs as lobbyists for the gun-grabbers so they are totally fair game.  This hypothesis makes a vast amount of very suspicious data fall completely into place in a very nice little package.

In fact Jones started out by saying Sandy Hook was NOT a psy-op.  I happened to be paying some attention to him at the time and I tuned in right away to see what he said.  Only after the psy-op became glaringly obvious did he change his tune for a bit.  Mostly just to try to hold on to his base I suspect.  Later he pussed out and tried to waffle about the issue.  Pathetic.  Maybe now that he is 'free' he'll do some real work on the subject..and certain others.  If he does I might even become a supporter again.

Yeah really, I never knew he was that accurate! That's the thing about conspiracy theories, they oftentimes become conspiracy facts. But by the time they do, it's far enough down the road that most people have already forgotten.

I just find the way he speaks a bit extreme, but I haven't got anything against him. I get most of my news from zerohedge because they have a way of putting in the perspective of the markets that I like. And the touch of sarcasm always helps a bit too

FTFY

I assure you I was never sacrificed at the Bohemian Grove, and Alex Jones is a complete moron

Alex Jones makes up bullshit, and has an aversion to telling the truth about anything... its all lies, 100%... you can literally fact check any sentence out of his mouth and find a lie

Then why is the giant mudfossil owl a secret, it use to a giant owl? This bullshit with dinosaurs needs to end, there's no triceratops in the Bible. These fucking pseudo-scientists make up bullshit models form micro fragments of fossil bone.

I just took a look at infowars.com, and most, like over 90% of the stories, I have no problem at all with.

This is a guy whose views go UP if he gets BANNED.

he was mamatized by his jewess queen ( aka his first wife ) after having forced a girl to abort, having abandonned a girl after making her pregnant (both the same or different, who cares), alex jones decided to behave like a good jew, and fuck every goy girl he could find around him... he went on rampage...

finally seeing his coming success and exposure of some of the crime of the jewish mafia ruling america they decided to place one of their solider at his side... his ex wife.

since then alexjew like ivankajew both have become good useful little cattle unable to see the crimes and worst naming the war crimes of this satanic tribe.

now a sub human, super cattle called jared kushner, the guy you don't know what the fuck he is doing at the white house is planing https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-12/us-sanctions-are-pushing-russia-war

to push russia to war because of his subhuman tribe desire to rebuilt their slavery empire called Kazaria (because the muslims prefer to wear suicide belt and go on full assault even without aerial support to wage war against the enslavers (remember pay your zakat dimi and you shall be free in the new covenants, at least theoretically) in russia... to rape, exploit, childrape, enslave goy girl... not because those subhumans don't like jewish pussies... nope, it's a about the white genocide... they hate all other tribes and want to see their destruction or enslavement... they hate us, and it's okay and great to not be a jew !

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-13/bombshell-kushner-and-kissinger-russia-linked-lunch-proves-it-all

and as you can see the little sub human who used his billions to impregnate the daughter of the prez, because she wanted to fuck dady but had to look at bigger (kushner, having raped russia and most gentile nations have a lot of loot they move across of jurisdiction, to rape again) is leading the american soldiers to war...

so who is hacking the election? the jews or the russians? and who will die if exposed? answer : not the russians... 8000 icbm counter launch after 1st american 1st strikes... in the air... look in a few minute the mrv will fall on israel - judea - palestine - jordan and co... why there? everywhere. 0... nothing worth left living after the departure of the russian people... rest assured, enough experience with jewish slavery.

so yes cattle alexjew and donaldjew are too afraid of the jewish enslavement and rape empire (like mr jeffy sessions)... all paralyzed... all their lives they were brainwashed in believing that the jews like epstein, corzine, and all the gang raping and plundering america and seeking the world are the chosen people of god^tm

poor christians... mentally owned by jews and specially those of the church of satan...

alexjew is close to seeing the truth... he just doesn't have yet the courage to say it... but he got it... recently. but it's hard for him, to understand and accept that his "wife" used him... and was in reality a "spy"... whose life too has been destroyed for the worldwide criminal and warcriminal syndicate : aka the jew ruling america...

for all reclamation : www.fsb.ru you will even find a little text box if you have your local community enlsavers, rapers and co to expose... it's nice for mrv targeting :).

the end of the jew slave state of america is coming... and jones knows it... he tries to warn them ... and his china gig... boddies along the street... yeah the dead boddies of S3,5,7 before being picked for reassamlby :) what a loser, like his orange god... whose relation with epstein island hasn't yet been explained... and I guess from his trail... reasonable presumption can be made... and specially when seeing who are the non dod personal he chose for his admin..

I didn't know the jew york. jew worship had moved to texas... I guess it's only austin :)... in the war for the oil patch I am curious if jew warfare was enough to win ?

Alex Jones is the definition of tinfoil. He was rightfully banned for making slanderious accusations against politicians and families of murdered children. He doesn't even know how harmful he is to other people.

Lets be fair, the key points do not align with the stars yet your line of discussion proves insight

Completely psychotic?

Maybe you've never known a real psychotic....

That is the correct answer

Err what are trying to say >:( :D :D..

That is the correct answer

Now remember Spendulus    you had no merit I give you your 20 merits   because everyone thought you was full of shit :D
So now with my 20 merit points you can sound like you know what you talk about ;)..

HIGH FIVE ;D..I felt sorry for you because no one believes anything you say :D..It's ok just return the favour 1 bitcoin  ;D..

lol

Both Trump and Alex Jones are certainly odd and unique. But psychotic? Naw, no way....

I agree  but Alex wife thinks he is though :D..

What? Just because he's got that special psychotic face he puts on when she's around?

I have to admit to having done that with certain people. But only when they thoroughly deserved it.

Alex mocks me, Trump comes off genuine
If trump is an ally, then there are no issues

Thus is the splendor of popcorn

Alex Jones is playing a persona in my opinion. He's exploiting people who believe in conspiracy theories so much, just look at the ammount of sel-advertising of his shitty products.

He's pretty dangerous tho, calling sandy hook a hoax, endorsing pizzagate etc. This isn't just jokes.

Sandy Hoax never made sense to me.

I call this "rabbit hole" syndrome. People get so deep into the rabbit hole chasing conspiracies that they lose track of who they thought they were. It can actually be draining after a while. You get so wound up over the "real meaning" behind every event that you even second guess the air you breath.

While skepticism is healthy to have, it's not worth freaking out over every little thing. You've got to question every thing around you, sure, but don't be blaming illuminati reptilian gods for eating the souls of little children to fuel their demonic alters. Or whatever they are talking about these days.

if you still use the softwares that banned infowars... you should think... a lot.