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Prepare for free fall guys. The manipulators have taken enough of your money for now and will let the price plummet again to 300-500 levels in order to play the same game all over again.

Anyone thinking this is a free market is delusional. 99% of all coins owned by 5 people lol.

Agree with you. It will drop HARD.

I'm going to let yourself reply to yourself


Price went up


We reached an ATH


Troll go home

5 people owning 99% of BTC ??? just wow!  when i think you can not come up with more bullshit you go and prove me wrong. well done sir

I hope so! Then I can buy more cheap coins.  :D

OMG you never give up being wrong.  :D
Anyway, good to see you again duck.

You can yell bullshit all you want. Facts are facts.
You realize anyone can investigate the blockchain right? We can see where the coins are concentrated and which transactions correlate to eachother in regards of usage and accumulation.

Show us the evidence. Don't just tell us and expect us to believe. I'm sure you've already done the work required to back up your statement, so showing us the work should be a simple thing.

Never listen to kwukduck

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316297.msg14241773#msg14241773

As you can see here 95% of all btc is contained within 0.17% of all addresses.

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! ;D

Sooo... 95% of all bitcoin is contained in 120,000 addresses. I need more info. Those 120,000 addresses are controlled by 5 people? How do we get there kwuk?

Let me chime in on the speculation party going on in here. I think there will be a big crash after we have hit a new all time high. There is still approximately $300 more to go so enjoy the ride for as long as it can last.

Look.. this is statistics 101. You have to use the same distribution for all addresses if you don't want to make more assumptions than needed. No matter what you pick as address distribution per user, the outcome is economically horriffic. Our fiat system looks like a friggin diamond compared to bitcoin when it comes to coin distribution.
Also when comparing these numbers from prefious years, it only gets worse, confirming the already clear manipulation by the whales.

Well that cleared it up for me Kwuk. Thanks a lot!

I guess we don't even need to discuss the fact that one address can account for thousands of users due to exchanges / webwallets and the like, cuz well... statistics 101!

See you in your next doom thread! Always a pleasure.

Take your fudspamming split personality elsewhere please. And take your meds.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/mr_natural_flakey_foont1.jpg

You're not contributing anything to the discussion here by being constantly wrong, except humor, and even that gets tedious after a while.

We just attained ATHs in EUR and CAD for 2 consecutive days and you expect anybody to believe the price will drop to half its value?

Your grasp of reality is weakening daily. Get real.
________

***Slaps self for feeding troll***

Finally.  Bye bye ATH.

Kwuk is proudhon v2.0

at more than 800 USD, unfortunasly.
it can loose some 100 USD, but not 200 USD.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/8334/3p96DI.gif

Wow the trolling is epic here. Did he say statistics 101?

WOW lol

$800USD? I'd be all over that.

Unfortunately we haven't had a real buyable dip since early November, unless you count late Xmas eve and Xmas day when everything was closed except a few overpriced ATMs in 24-hour convenience stores.

Maybe we'll get lucky and have a flash crash below $900, but I wouldn't count on it.

Nothing to do but hold.

Last 24 hours clearly indicate a change of direction, that sub $900 is coming faster than you think.

You could have said that on Xmas day. You would have been just as wrong.

A minor correction/profit-taking after 2 consecutive days of ATHs doesn't indicate a change of direction.

We're just taking a breather.

By the way, did you notice the price is rising again?

I am also afraid of bitcoin's bubble will pop one day. That's why I don't keep my bitcoins as many of users recommend to do, I'm cashing out my earnings from the campaign every month. I think now there is high level of danger to some site would be hacked, as it happen with Bitfinex this summer. Such high price just could not to attract hackers.

Wow guys kwuckduck this man real idiot.


This rally just started up.  We are going to see $5,000  before we hit below $900 again.


HODL YOUR COINS!!!!!!

Bubble? The bubble hasn't even started yet.

We're still correcting from 2014-5.

Why afraid? The bubble will really popped out (price surge) and that is expected after a price increase. And no I don't see majority of users recommending not to keep their bitcoins just because of that. That is not the wise thing to when there is a price increase that is happening. Cashing it out by fixed basis will just result for a fixed value. Cashing out must take placed if ever you really need it. But ok if that is your way then I don't have nothing to do with it. Just a little concern to the wasted opportunity you are taking out.

About security, why bother to use online exchange when there is a way to secure your coins freely if you meant to hold it for long.

I remember I've seen somewhere a reply to one of your "the end is near" posts that you are a pretty good REVERSE INDICATOR.
And I start to believe that the one that labelled you like that was right.
I know that this is a bubble, a big one. But this bubble has the same chance to pop tomorrow like the chance to continue growing for one more year. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. And I don't expect the fall back to be too big neither.

Good thing I'm one of the 5 LOL

In fact there is a bit of a bubble effect in this, but one can not deny the attention that Bitcoin has been gaining lately.
What we are seeing is a combination of both things, but what matters is that the price increase lately is more a resulf of organic growth than anything else.

I guess I am too.  ;D

Obviously it will drop and it's expected during a price increase rally. Others will take profit so prepared for the dip.

But to the point that it will go back again to $300 to $500 levels, especially with the difference of bitcoin user status today compare back then, I see it has really low odds to happened. No backup claims for this but it's a fail if bitcoin will touched again that level concerning miners about the recent bitcoin halving that happened.

Let's see how far this "troll" will go.

There is no reasons to afraid here. The current bitcoin's price is not the maximum what bitcoin can reach. I would say that we are far away from the pop. So don't make panic around that. Better keep your bitcoins, cause of the price is going to get doubled as minimum.

Couldn't this manipulation keep the rising of the price for a few more weeks? being wrong isn't anything to be ashamed of but insisting of not being wrong is.

kwukduck is a moron troll-bear but his FUD does keep the forum interesting and makes me laugh  :D

I would be worried if he and his alts did NOT post when a dip happened.

Stay classy kwukduck  ;)

Indeed.

For a time NLC was also a fine source of comedy and I enjoyed poking fun at her, but that changed when she started getting personally abusive and started posting offensive images and making multiple references to offensive activities.

At least Kwukkie maintains a certain degree of civility and class in his preposterous trolling.

Definitely stay classy kwukduck.

I don't think it's manipulation.  It is financial institutions trying to get positions.

The best case for BTC would be a 2-3 month period of consolidation around this level.

I think we are in for a free fall too. :o
It had to happen sometime.  :-\
And why not just in time for the end of the year.
Now is the righest :-X time as any, ;)

i don't know what you thought of people reading this, maybe you think readers are brain dead or maybe you are brain dead from your loss when you sold thinking price will crash to $100 :D

99% of all the coins means out of 16,071,775BTC 5 people own 15,911,057 and 160KBTC is divided among the millions of people hodling bitcoin :D funny isn't it? it gets better! the daily volume is even more than 300K around our exchanges and more than 6 million over in Chinese exchanges

kwfukduck is legendary.

Yep. Just look at that chart going up right now. I was so wrong...

Dont be so sure of that. Lots of resistance is forming and the floor is falling out from under us. We could test $750 again before we test $1000 again.

Frank Lefty Rosenthal Signing Out.

IMO we are consolidating.

BTW:
Hello farmer!


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Of course most addresses don't have any coins in them anymore.

An address that has not had coins spent from it is more secure than one which has. Therefore, the most prudent thing to do when spending a partial balance is to send the rest to a new address that you also have the key for.

Sample size of one, most of the addresses I've used now have a zero balance. But I know this is common practice for many people and businesses as well. Not to mention mixers and other cases where coins rapidly change hands.

And of course  zero balance addresses are excluded.

while i am enjoying the rise and my profit i made a little picture representing cuckooduck's post history for funz.

https://i.imgur.com/nsZKyvb.jpg

keep it up bro, we expect seeing the same posts on $1200 and $2000,... or we'll miss you  ::)

I don't think 99% of the coins is owned by that few people. There are so many coins that have been mined and also there has been a lot of it in circulation. So I guess this is not true at all. Unless you prove it. Maybe there would be a correction of the price, but you can't say that it is manipulated solely by a few.

This post made my day. LOL

These is what "experts" do in the real world. They just create some kind of fake prophecy and wait if it comes true. If it does come true they are indeed going to rub it in our faces and go "I told you so." But if they fail in their prediction they just shut up and create some excuse why it didn't happen. That's how they roll.

Doesn't look that way to me.

Unless you believe 97% of positive balance addresses have less than a dollar's worth... and that this is somehow an indication of wealth inequality.

Never mind. That probably is the way you think.

these two posts made my day lol.... this is so goddamn true... so immature...

kwukduk, are you a government insider or are you just a regular dude?

nah what i see is a price correction, liek the one that happened before we reached $900, it returned back a little, it will repeat the same story now

it can go pumped forever you know that would be stupid to think, but i also don't believe we are ready for $1k yet

Today, many people are skeptical about the growth rate of Bitcoin, they are thinking it's a typical investment bubble, but I don't think we need to consider the digital currency as another form of securities. Rather, it can be compared to email, websites, MP3 and ebooks. This is a technological innovation that will soon be able to replace the technology of the past – namely, the usual, fiat.

Yes, however I do believe kukduck may be a time traveler from the future sent to warn us.

It could be that.
Unfortunately that is not what it is with all the fundamental flaws in the protocol.
And even worse, what the community made of it.

We're definitely not ready for $1000 prices yet. If you look at how weak the support is, then it doesn't take much to get the price to tank all the way to $800's. The price went up way too much in such a short period of time. Buy support takes time to build up, where it later is able to absorb some level of securing profits by large players. Right now it's peanuts for a large player to put people back on earth. If we end up falling back to the $800's, then we still can look back at a more than successful/profitable year.

We have a small correction and people think it is a bubble popping?
Whether the price was manipulated or not, there are enough believers in Bitcoin's potential. We will have strong support at $890-$900, if at all Bitcoin retreats to those levels.

kvukduck, honestly, what is your best advice for the average bitcoin investor?

I have aid this for awhile now people are to bully and think there has been a sudden surge of new money. Nope, same old manipulators kicking ass.. Until next time friends........

@orpington
@lambdaE

Besides the support being extremely weak at this point.
The most important indicator is flawed fundamentals that are not being resolved, this pretty much guarantees a system doomed to fail in its current state.
The only thing countering this downward spiral is hype and manipulation. Hype will blow over but the manipulation can be sustained for quite some time, as long as there are fools to trick.


We need crypto in this world but bitcoin isn't the solution (at least in its current form).
The price will reflect this.

I've never known someone to enjoy being so very wrong all the time until I happened across kwukduck.

Also:
https://blockchain.info/address/14b8PdeWLqK3yi3PrNHMmCvSmvDEKEBh3E

Hmmm. That's some tippage there. All those droves of people appreciating kwuk's advice.

But here's the thing duck.

Hugh? bitcoin is growing exponentially around the world.


Ok, there is some controversy about scaling issues. I don't see how that guarantees anything.


Well any money is backed by faith or "hype". Dollars are just fancy paper and gold is just a shinny rock. People think they are worth something and agree on what that value should be via markets. So money is hype, that may be true. As far as manipulation I see no evidence of that in the markets. If you do please show it. Showing it is something, claiming it is nothing.


By going up? So far the price has reflected growing interest and an ever expanding user base.


You may believe bitcoin will fail, maybe not. But why should we believe that when all economic indicators point north? And when you have literally been wrong every other time you predicted bitcoin's imminent collapse?

I'm not defending kwuk's "it's all manipulation" theory, but at the same time pretending like there isn't any manipulation is naive.

For example, yesterday on Finex tons of bids were pulled and tons of asks were added, at the same time, by a single entity, to make it look like there was huge market depth on the upside but very little on the downside. That's pretty clearly intended to manipulate people to act a certain way (and apparently it works on some). Today, it's gone (poof).

https://i.imgur.com/p1PnxZd.png

Also, the constant barrage of trolls (kwuk included!) on bitcointalk could be considered attempted manipulation.

Finally, the outright, in-your-face manipulation of governments around the world by classifying Bitcoin and assigning certain regulations on it's use.

If there is a market, someone is going to attempt to manipulate it to their favor. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with that (until force is involved, i.e. government regulation).

I agree with you that there is and has always been some manipulation. But I think it has a negligible effect on the market and is in no way the basis for the growth we see. A person willing to risk a lot of coin could leverage that on an exchange, but it is not going to manipulate the entire bitcoin market. It has just grown to large and diverse, IMO.
As far as disinformation operations that seek to vilify BTC or manipulate my opinion with fear... Well good luck keeping a good idea down. All I have to do is ignore baseless nonsense and act logically. I ask myself "Is bitcoin still the fastest, cheapest, and most secure way to pay anyone anywhere?" As long as that is true bitcoin is worth trillions in USD.
As to the last point about manipulation by governments that can be an issue, but not a bitcoin issue. Some governments outright steal via taxation. Bitcoin offers victims of economic oppression an option to opt out more than a way for such states to victimize them. 

Yep, we're pretty much on the same page here. Kwuk thinks Five Guys (yum) are controlling the entire Bitcoin market... LOL.

proudhon was more intelligent by comparison
Kwuk is a product of generations of inbreeding.... :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TuFy0fcuw

It is undeniable that big speculators still have much power in price manipulation, but we can not deny bitcoin a legitimate value that has gradually gained over the years. For reasons of mere market logic we could expect some correction or slight downward adjustment, but at no time I would expect that supposed collapse of bitcoin.

you can only dream about the cheap bitcoin price now.
we all have to accept the fact that price has gone up and those days are over, there is a good resistance in the $900 price and it can not be broken as we are seeing from the orderbooks clearly.

Bra, check the duck's post history, he IS a troll and a perma-bear. As far as the price of BTC is concerned, it goes up and goes down and goes up higher. That is fact, not speculation. Eventually, it will set a new ATH and surpass it, as long as nothing else comes along to supplant it. That trend will continue until it reaches its maximum valuation, whatever that will be.

That's totally correct, I hate labeling, but that guy is a troll

if anybody reading this topic wanted to see a funny picture and realize what this is all about they can check out the other 117 topics of kwukduck throughout the years here: https://bitcointalk.org/gettopics.php?user=654

they are all the same subject only the number changes: "sub 400", "320" "180" "200" "220" and so on. next year the subject changes to "blah blah sub 1500" :D

For your statement to be true, the maximum individual holding must amount to at least BTC3,000,000. But even Satoshi (who is believed to own the largest BTC holdings) is having less than BTC1 million in his wallets.

Who said that after an incerase in price  ,falling down could.be the next.  I think bitcoin will go fisrt at 1400$ before going down slowly.
I have seen this scenario before, that bitcoin will climb up to 1500$ this year 2017.

For most people here  its not  a manipulation if it leads to a price increase. Its a normal supply and demand if its dont move for a day, and shoot in price in 2 minutes.

Its only a manipulation if its not increasing in price, or decreasing its price. Its those evil banks behind it all. They dont want the beloved bitcoin to reach a price when everyone of the believers will reach the state of  a paradise.

Damn those bankers. Such a evil greedy bastards. Not like we the bitcoiners. We do everything for a free market virtue and its gloryhole.

He's labelled himself a permabear at this point. He is definitely a troll and is only calling doomsdays that never happen. His threads are never based on fact and lately I've seen one deleted because of it. I'm sure there were many more that have been deleted because they don't contribute anything.

If it quacks like a duck... It's probably a bear.

http://i63.tinypic.com/dmcgo6.jpg

Even if that was the case what is stopping people to convert their bitcoins to fiat or other altcoins and play the same game? Anyone that bought bitcoin one month ago got profits already.

Looks like it popped and is now falling to earth at an alarming rate. Will it ever stop and go back or is this the ned of bitcoin.
:D

Frank Lefty Rosenthal Signing Out.

The problem with that logic is two fold. Firstly. When you invest into something that someone else is bought you dont only decrease his power by cutting his cake but also increase his power by making his investition have more fiat. Outcome is as you have said, but its results are far less power than you expect to have.

Secondly its not 5 people. Ofcourse he is widely exagerating. The problem is the small ammount of bitcoins that are being traded, compared to the total ammount of bitcoins, that causes liquidity problems and fake prace is much more valid than on other assets. Even if bitcoin in general is harder to bo faked in price. Its just one aspect of it. Bitcoin is the hardest to fake in price. Dont get me wrong.

Maybe he was talking that 99% of Bitcoins being traded. Thats is way more valid than the total ammount of bitcoins but still I would say its 90%-95% max owned by the biggest traders.

99% of 5% being traded or so is 4.99% of bitcoins owned by 5 richest bitcoinholders. Seems legit to me, but more real is like 4% of bitcoins is owned by those mister x'ses.

I think the price of $950 is very cheap.

Thats a very constructive post. Could you elaborate a little bit?
 Its cheap compared to all time high ever on western exchanges? Its less than 15% of the most expensive bitcoin ever. You call that cheap? Well... Pardon, but thats kind of weird.

You can call that bargain price bitcoin. But calling it cheap at near ATH is retarded........

Ofcourse there were cheaper bitcoin. Like... always FFS, except like a week or 2.

950 aint cheap any more and it never was, i did post around 800-900 range  not to buy when people asked.  cheap might be around 500 range

250 is cheap in my opinion. But all believers and investors say we still in a bull market so it means there's no cheap buying opportunity anymore

It is sad to see that the bitcoin is so easily manipulated, because this level of volatility will always be an argument to limit a massive adoption for businesses and users.

Therefore it should not be strange that instead of a promising currency, bitcoin begins to become a business of a few speculators through this undesirable pump and dump scheme.

There is definitely a bit of manipulation going on from some of the Chinese exchanges, but I think there is more manipulation of Chinese fiat currency.
Interestingly, the price of Chinese RMB (Yuan) has a HUGE effect on the price of Bitcoin since so many miners and large exchanges are located there.
We should be talking about the need for greater de-centralization, because until that happens, the price of Bitcoin will be mostly influenced by China.

It is possible that the price will drop a little more, due to the panic in the market, but I don't think the price will fall to as low as five hundred dollars.

There are different reasons that make this price unfeasible, one of them is the high cost to produce a single Bitcoin, which according to some experts is something around six hundred and fifty dollars. Another aspect is that the market is much larger compared to a few years ago, and now the demand is a result of people who buy Bitcoin because they need and use it, not just speculators.

650 for Chinese miners and how much for the rest? I think it maybe closer to 800 to produce 1 bitcoin, can anyone confirm what it truly costs?

It would depend where you are getting your power (and your cooling for that matter) - solar power to generate the funds and underground for insulation with venting to cool perhaps?  (You wouldn't necessarily have solar power in colder climates, but then again perhaps you could have hydro power from the snow thawing into nearby lakes)

Nope, many people own the coins but i think there are more than 10 Whale players out there that own 1000+ bitcoins. That's why when some of that whale sell all their coins, the bubble popped. It's really scary though people can do this.

look at this https://coinmarketcap.com/  look at all the graphs on the 7 day   .. they all match the pattern to a t.  Talk about manipulation!. Not just btc its damn near every coin!

edit sort by volume high to low

BR

This isn't a bubble popping this is the shake out. Watch and see.

Why do you call the bubble popping? it's just down abit because investors want to get good profit. now it's starting increase .
 I expect it will hit 1,000$ again in next week. 

cheap is a price that soon there comes a time that you can no longer see that price. i can show you a thousand similar comments like you from the previous 8 years that say the same thing about $0 to $900 and every price that we passed became a history never to return.

a couple of months from now you can come back to this comment and see what he meant when he said $950 is cheap.

Price is already climbing back up. Get your longs ready. Its going to be a wild ride.

Frank Lefty Rosenthal Signing Out.

OP is right but he is lying at the same time and spreads FUD (as he always does.).
clearly there was a bubble because of the fast rise to $1150 and it had to pop, but when a bubble burst price comes down to higher resistance levels and as it was proven in the previous couple of days price has been playing at $850 level and now we are even back above $900.

Maybe the guys is rich and $950 is just peanuts for him.  Everyone has rights to their opinion.  I myself think that $100  Bitcoin is expensive :P. 


Indeed there was a rally and created a mini Bubble.  Lucky it had popped early because if not, it will do harm than good because it will leave lots of people on a huge disadvantae once that bubble burst.

I am sure the price will recover and would cross the $1000 in due time.There are being a massive sell off without any doubt and since the market is really fluctuating and the price range is now between $850 and $950 and i do not think that i will go down further.

And who are these 5 people and if you knew this much you can very well provide their names as well,with this thread it looks like you are delusional to the core ,manipulation in a market is a regular occurrence and traders like to cash in the maximum during these times and even if the price of the coin touches rock bottom traders will find a way to earn money from it.

Yeah. I guess some people think that when someone else makes a profit and they do not, it's manipulation.

I don't think the current trends are price manipulation. It is pure, unadulterated, free market.
Price manipulation is illegal and could land you in jail if proven in a court of law.

well price manipulation could land you in jail if it is about stock markets or any other regulated market. But Bitcoin is not regulated so i think who ever is into  manipulation of bitcoin prices will not get into any trouble even if he admit to it

Phil G Potter (the coo of BitFinex) admitted in an interview  to what would be considered insider trading in any regulated market 
he maybe have been drunk or something and then he tried to say it doesnt matter because hes a whale and bla
bla bla .......

those guys should be in jail already but theyre laughing sitting on that giant pile of stolen btc they refuse to talk to the fbi about....

They will get what they deserved.

I consider bitcoin is a rare example of a market not centrally controlled.

I'm sure there are some centralized agencies that have control over some bitcoins and obviously we know that the price will fluctuate based on politics in certain countries. All in all though, yes bitcoins themselves aren't centrally controlled. Mining is more and more centralized all the time though.

Btw what happened to this bubble popping? It seems to me the opposite happened!

This bubble popped for sure lol,.... But somehow my stack only looks FATTER..... I'M LIKING IT!

KWUCKDUXK-FEEL FREE TO POP SOME MORE BUBBLES

YOU HAVE MY BLESSING!

It goes up, and up, and up, and then we get a hole, and then it busts. That is, I hope that's what happens.

I'm looking at the markets now and everything is still going up, and that's just spelling disaster for anyone heavily invested when everything starts to go down. I believe that Bitfinex is pushing this bubble and once that gets fixed, the bubble with pop and exchanges will see a rapid decrease in value as the markets try to equalize. Right now everything is too divided to get a good read, and there are massive discrepancies among each exchange. This is not something that should be happening and everything will correct at once, however some will be hit harder than others.

Not good if this busts in a really bad way.

I love popping bubbles.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/Champagne.jpg

Manipulation never comes to an end with bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Depending on the market capital and the growth experienced the manipulation too happens. The bubble popping is just a outcome and these days the hands of China alone have got down in the price manipulation.

dude this topic is old and someone just bumped it up as a fun thing to laugh at the starter of this topic which is a known troll who is repeating the same thing as price drops. if you read what he is saying you see he is calling the drop down to $300 :D
meanwhile price is testing $1400 resistance.

Topic is about four months old... but still, the subject matter is now as up to date as it was then.
I must agree that there might be a bubble blowing up, but I don't agree with the 99% hypothesis.
And I am sure that during the last months, the diversification of bitcoin has grown and not concentrated amongst a few people even further.
That is one thing that gives me hope why the actual high in price won't lead to a too harsh bounce back.

It looks like this could be a bubble. The price keeps going up so there's got to be a correction at some point.

hahahahha   yeah OP was totally right...   ;D ;D ;D

Bitcoin is not such kind of project that was created to make bosses of the project rich and disappear in a moment.
Bitcoin is digital gold and I think bitcoin waits the same future as gold as we know it. The price will be growing and in some moment the grow will get slower and bitcoin will jump around some price which will be counted like the medium price.

If you look at the statistics of the rise and fall of prices, you can always trace them and their regularity. You can definitely suspect manipulation and fraud.

Right now the ongoing price increase doesn't look to be an price manipulation. It's purely real growth and nothing seems to be an altered or modified price move for the big investors to play and profit by initiating a panic among the users.

In general, the market has always been saturated with both growth and a drop in the price of Bitcoin. Therefore, it does not make sense to suspect someone, Because if Bitcoin has extraordinary features, it means that nobody has any influence on it.

I think the price will not drop in the long term as there are more people into the bitcoin. According to Coinbase, it is 40k a day.

pop pop, all over the place!!

im not so sure, seems we still have plenty of room to stretch

How many times we need to repeat this: bitcoin is not a bubble, investors start to recognize bitcoin's power.
Fidelity Investments recently accepted bitcoin and even allowed Bitcoin payments in their cafeteria.
Bitcoin cannot longer be shout down or suppressed. Here is what Tim Draper said about BTC:

"I think Bitcoin is now a global phenomenon, so demand for Bitcoin is coming from all over the world. I know that China is using Bitcoin to more easily send money to other countries, and the people of challenged countries like Argentina and Cypress flee to Bitcoin when their own currencies are no longer viable or if they are inflationary. Throughout Africa, Bitpesa makes it easier to buy and sell goods with Bitcoin".

I see bitcoin market price is not a bubble. Not for me I guess. So I don't know why people is always saying that it is a bubble and still comparing in with 2013 bubble. We have a nation that is buying bitcoin because its legal tender to them. I don't think this is consider a bubble. They may be pumping it but how can you stop them? It is like bitcoin=Yen now in Japan.