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Title: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on December 29, 2016, 04:47:44 PM
Remember the RollinCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0)/Fastbitroulette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.0) scammer from a while back? They're back, as crazybtrade.com

Here is his forum account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914218

I was searching for evidence that crazybtrade = CasinoKiller = MafiaCoin (which I'm pretty certain of. Will post about it later), and took a look at the game wallet's addresses on walletexplorer.com. It's a huge wallet because he likes to send BTC to random addresses and than back to their site, for fake wins and to be harder to trace.

Here is my proof:

1vsUrQQq9UaNycnpbPKRkHSe7th4n8R3k is the address shown on the site crazybtrade, to bet on. (archive) (https://archive.is/ol5bw) The address is part of Wallet [00b1d316e9] (https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00b1d316e9994e7b/addresses), which also has the address 1LhyhiJS845DSoZxWz7VShJEyqhtH3K5D. That address was connected to Rollincoin, here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.msg14830457#msg14830457)

Let's also take a look at the whois record of crazybtrade (https://archive.is/hGKVW) vs rollincoin (http://archive.is/iq9RW#selection-2539.0-2564.1):


Code:
Registry Registrant ID: 
Registrant Name: Mike Richardson
Registrant Organization: bitsoftdev
Registrant Street: Calle la Bajada del Cielo,  12-07
Registrant City: Panamá
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: 0808
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.2922957
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: bitsoftdev@gmail.com
Code:
Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: Mike Lewis
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: Av. 8,San Jose 7
Registrant City: San Jose
Registrant State/Province: N/A
Registrant Postal Code: 10101
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.22561065
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: gamblingmafia@gmail.com

Both names coincidentally start with Mike, except with a different last name (probably because Lutpin connected Fastbitroulette/rollincoin because the whois had the same name and email). Both have random zip codes (even though Panama doesn't use them), as well as are in the country of Panama


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Avirunes on December 29, 2016, 05:12:44 PM
Great catch. Confirmed same guy who was behind rollincoin and fastbitroulette. [Posting something]

This post of fearfulcalm quotes his earlier post which has screenshot game addy's of rollincoin which are connected to same wallet
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00b1d316e9994e7b/addresses

Addresses of rollincoin

Code:
1LBrvLpD8xQQ2xUcyvvsYLPZo5eXrcm4sZ
1Q1GgwuHk6YDp3yDMBy59ek1aELfxKU6ke



Please add crazybtrade's profile link to OP to make things easier to paint him red.

EDIT: I have posted in all active threads of the site including active giveaway and social promotion thread.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: chixka000 on December 29, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
Hoe pretty accurate  is this? I am currently running the signature campaign of this site. Crazybtrade is a good friend of mine but it started only after i put some review on his site.

As of now he pays his users. Where can i find that record that you hsve stated? So i could take a look at it


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Patatas on December 29, 2016, 06:04:25 PM
Yeah,I do remember him.
I also remember btcmasterZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667885) being one of their shill accounts who was harassing Lutpin.And their apparent game developer KingOfBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=735396) part of the same chain.They probably controlled by the same scammer.Just leaving these accounts here if you wish to further investigate.

As of now he pays his users. Where can i find that record that you hsve stated? So i could take a look at it
Check the trust ratings of the users linked above.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on December 29, 2016, 06:13:48 PM
I also remember btcmasterZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667885) being one of their shill accounts who was harassing Lutpin.And their apparent game developer KingOfBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=735396) part of the same chain.They probably controlled by the same scammer.Just leaving these accounts here if you wish to further investigate.
They are controlled by him. They were linked by their wallet quite a while ago. I'm also fairly certain that MafiaCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909843) and CasinoKiller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=916492) are his new shill accounts, and will post my proof later. (unless someone else wants to look into it)

Hoe pretty accurate  is this? I am currently running the signature campaign of this site. Crazybtrade is a good friend of mine but it started only after i put some review on his site.

As of now he pays his users. Where can i find that record that you hsve stated? So i could take a look at it

I've edited my post.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on December 29, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
Remember the RollinCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0)/Fastbitroulette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.0) scammer from a while back?
Yes, how could I forget. Ugly shit.

Hoe pretty accurate  is this?
Blockchain connections are as good as it gets.



If memory serves right, btcmasterZ was banned due to their extortion and other things that happened back then.
It appears the ban has been a permanent one (I'm currently checking that bit), which would make all actions by crazybtctrade ban evasion.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 29, 2016, 06:29:30 PM
Remember the RollinCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469732.0)/Fastbitroulette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510822.0) scammer from a while back?
Yes, how could I forget. Ugly shit.

Hoe pretty accurate  is this?
Blockchain connections are as good as it gets.



If memory serves right, btcmasterZ was banned due to their extortion and other things that happened back then.
It appears the ban has been a permanent one (I'm currently checking that bit), which would make all actions by crazybtctrade ban evasion.

Why you give me red trust?

 who is rollincoin.com? I first time hear about it.

You are not right.
I bought script with pre-install  bitcoin node on vps.

Don't worry friends,
We are not scammers!

We have paid winnings, paid prizes, paid giveaway, paid signature campaign, give diffirent bonus.

We work about 2 months. No one - no scammed!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 29, 2016, 06:30:59 PM
I also remember btcmasterZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667885) being one of their shill accounts who was harassing Lutpin.And their apparent game developer KingOfBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=735396) part of the same chain.They probably controlled by the same scammer.Just leaving these accounts here if you wish to further investigate.
They are controlled by him. They were linked by their wallet quite a while ago. I'm also fairly certain that MafiaCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909843) and CasinoKiller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=916492) are his new shill accounts, and will post my proof later. (unless someone else wants to look into it)

Hoe pretty accurate  is this? I am currently running the signature campaign of this site. Crazybtrade is a good friend of mine but it started only after i put some review on his site.

As of now he pays his users. Where can i find that record that you hsve stated? So i could take a look at it

I've edited my post.

What?  who is rollincoin.com? I first time hear about it.

You are not right.
I bought script with pre-install  bitcoin node on vps.

Don't worry friends,
We are not scammers!

We have paid winnings, paid prizes, paid giveaway, paid signature campaign, give diffirent bonus.

We work about 2 months. No one - no scammed!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 29, 2016, 06:42:25 PM
Don't worry friends,
This is wrong!
We not scammers.

We have paid winnings, paid prizes, paid giveaway, paid signature campaign, give diffirent bonus.
We have proof and work about 2 months.

We have many proof of payment contest
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1726016.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1668434.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716391.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694814.0


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on December 29, 2016, 06:45:10 PM
You are not right. I bought script with pre-install  bitcoin node on vps.
So you're telling me you are running your service from a wallet you did not set up yourself, hence from one you do not have sole access to, one that might be comprimised,
using addresses that have not been created by you yourself, addresses that the user who set up your shit could have easily copied?

I don't buy your story, but even if, this would be a HUGE risk of securty, both for your funds and the funds of your users.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 29, 2016, 06:58:16 PM
You are not right. I bought script with pre-install  bitcoin node on vps.
So you're telling me you are running your service from a wallet you did not set up yourself, hence from one you do not have sole access to, one that might be comprimised,
using addresses that have not been created by you yourself, addresses that the user who set up your shit could have easily copied?

I don't buy your story, but even if, this would be a HUGE risk of securty, both for your funds and the funds of your users.

How can copy my address?
Why huge risk? if don't have access to bitcoind, can't to stole money.
I have access to VPS with bitcoin node only.. no one have access to this vps.

What your advice? Need removed this blockchaid node and install new bitcoind?

We not scammers because we work about 2 month.. no one case with scam.

Lutpin, please help me. I'm not scammer, i don't know what need doing..

Thanks


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on December 29, 2016, 07:54:20 PM
How can copy my address?
Why huge risk? if don't have access to bitcoind, can't to stole money.
I have access to VPS with bitcoin node only.. no one have access to this vps.

What your advice? Need removed this blockchaid node and install new bitcoind?

I can't believe someone running a gambling site that handles other's bitcoins doesn't understand how bitcoin works. It's very easy for the person that generated the addresses (assuming what you say is true, I still doubt it) to keep the private keys and spend your Bitcoin later. You need to generate new addresses, and make sure he doesn't have access to your VPS.

We not scammers because we work about 2 month.. no one case with scam.
Cryptsy worked for over 2 months, and they didn't scam someone. They did afterward. Not scamming for 2 months doesn't mean it isn't a scam.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lauda on December 29, 2016, 11:29:29 PM
If memory serves right, btcmasterZ was banned due to their extortion and other things that happened back then.
It appears the ban has been a permanent one (I'm currently checking that bit), which would make all actions by crazybtctrade ban evasion.
I can confirm that this is indeed correct. I haven't looked at the evidence presented here yet, but if it is solid then we are talking about a returning scammer that has also been ban-evading for quite some time.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 01:02:34 AM
How can copy my address?
Why huge risk? if don't have access to bitcoind, can't to stole money.
I have access to VPS with bitcoin node only.. no one have access to this vps.

What your advice? Need removed this blockchaid node and install new bitcoind?

I can't believe someone running a gambling site that handles other's bitcoins doesn't understand how bitcoin works. It's very easy for the person that generated the addresses (assuming what you say is true, I still doubt it) to keep the private keys and spend your Bitcoin later. You need to generate new addresses, and make sure he doesn't have access to your VPS.

We not scammers because we work about 2 month.. no one case with scam.
Cryptsy worked for over 2 months, and they didn't scam someone. They did afterward. Not scamming for 2 months doesn't mean it isn't a scam.

Please give me chance to work and i showed that i'm not scamer.
I will install new bitcoin node and create new wallet with new private keys.  (but i need time to learn it, how make it)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 01:04:53 AM
If memory serves right, btcmasterZ was banned due to their extortion and other things that happened back then.
It appears the ban has been a permanent one (I'm currently checking that bit), which would make all actions by crazybtctrade ban evasion.
I can confirm that this is indeed correct. I haven't looked at the evidence presented here yet, but if it is solid then we are talking about a returning scammer that has also been ban-evading for quite some time.

Sorry, I'm not scammer!
please see my proof..

We have paid winnings, paid prizes, paid giveaway, paid signature campaign, give diffirent bonus.
We have proof and work about 2 months.

We have many proof of payment contest
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1726016.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1668434.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716391.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694814.0

Why do you give me red trust?

Please give me chance to work and i will show that I'm not scammer


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 08:00:14 AM
Show me though one users who been scam on our site?
If you find it, this will be proof..
I know we not scam anyone!

DarkStar not placed any bet and say about scam.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 08:25:59 AM
walletexplorer showed wrong info!
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00b1d316e9994e7b/addresses

first wallet have    428 Transactions
second wallet have 80 Transactions

walletexplorer showed 313 and 43!

also showed transaction https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00b1d316e9994e7b

 ???Rollin.io https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/4e43e1dbd3ace5717b1d44b7dcedd966f6d3d7dc57bff2465ddcd71858ad7506

this wrong! we not sent to rollin.io

what happen?



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Avirunes on December 30, 2016, 09:23:10 AM
walletexplorer showed wrong info!
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00b1d316e9994e7b/addresses

first wallet have    428 Transactions
second wallet have 80 Transactions

walletexplorer showed 313 and 43!

Those are addresses in wallet. Wallet that is controlled by you.

also showed transaction https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00b1d316e9994e7b

 ???Rollin.io https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/4e43e1dbd3ace5717b1d44b7dcedd966f6d3d7dc57bff2465ddcd71858ad7506

this wrong! we not sent to rollin.io

what happen?



In this transaction: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/4e43e1dbd3ace5717b1d44b7dcedd966f6d3d7dc57bff2465ddcd71858ad7506

You sent payout to CapatinKid: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=846153 Rollin.io's address: 1Kx3F8dPKZN4MQgwV8dgiaQ9SZZckacnbd

which is posted by him here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711959.msg17283746#msg17283746

And I guess you did paid 0.0005BTC which was on 27th December,2016 and this was the giveaway for which you sent payout to him : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716391.msg17310956#msg17310956 (archive: http://archive.is/RCiR4#selection-6398.5-6431.45)



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 11:47:11 AM
How can clear my red trust?
Because I'm not scammer.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: chixka000 on December 30, 2016, 01:49:44 PM
I just have to share my thoughts about it again. Well i am not a pro in terms of investigations as you do. Crazybtrade told me that he does purchase that certain vps he was saying. I do told him that if he can give some proof about the purchase thing(working on it). If ever that he is that scammer you were saying ( i just can ask some few questions)

Why would such a scammer limits the maximum bet to .25 if he could scam more than that

Well in terms of the zipcode that if i am not mistaken you said that those are not existing he just posted it on his thread that those exist(i havent look that one yet tho and confirmed)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Avirunes on December 30, 2016, 04:24:35 PM
I just have to share my thoughts about it again. Well i am not a pro in terms of investigations as you do. Crazybtrade told me that he does purchase that certain vps he was saying. I do told him that if he can give some proof about the purchase thing(working on it). If ever that he is that scammer you were saying ( i just can ask some few questions)

Why would someone use a wallet that was previously handled by someone(in this case a scammer)? Vps has nothing to do it with it .He is just trying to show how innocent he is by hiding behind a lie about buying of vps.

Quote
Why would such a scammer limits the maximum bet to .25 if he could scam more than that

Maximum bet has nothing to do with it. A scammer will be a scammer even if he scams 1$.

Quote
Well in terms of the zipcode that if i am not mistaken you said that those are not existing he just posted it on his thread that those exist(i havent look that one yet tho and confirmed)

You place more weight on a post made by the scammer  or a proof placed here? If you have further questions regarding proof placed in this thread then feel free to ask here.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on December 30, 2016, 04:35:57 PM
Why would such a scammer limits the maximum bet to .25 if he could scam more than that

Maybe because others would ask for proof of solvency if they had a 10 BTC max bet or something. It would look very shady if they allowed a 19 BTC win but couldn't sign a message from an address with that much BTC. IIRC they scammed with Rollincoin for < 0.1BTC

Well in terms of the zipcode that if i am not mistaken you said that those are not existing he just posted it on his thread that those exist(i havent look that one yet tho and confirmed)

The solid proof is are the blockchain links. I was simply pointing out some similarities in the whois. It's a very low chance that someone in Panama would sell their site to someone else in Panama, with the same first name, and have very similar writing styles.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
I just have to share my thoughts about it again. Well i am not a pro in terms of investigations as you do. Crazybtrade told me that he does purchase that certain vps he was saying. I do told him that if he can give some proof about the purchase thing(working on it). If ever that he is that scammer you were saying ( i just can ask some few questions)

Why would such a scammer limits the maximum bet to .25 if he could scam more than that

Well in terms of the zipcode that if i am not mistaken you said that those are not existing he just posted it on his thread that those exist(i havent look that one yet tho and confirmed)

Yes, i can give proof where i bought it. I don't know that he is scammer :o
Now, i will reinstall blockchain node and remove this wallet forever, because i'm nur scammer!
I am honest man!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 06:53:41 PM

Why would someone use a wallet that was previously handled by someone(in this case a scammer)? Vps has nothing to do it with it .He is just trying to show how innocent he is by hiding behind a lie about buying of vps.

what?
Do you know VPS. If he is scammer, he installed bitcoin node on VPS and changed wallet.dat! I think he want stole my money when will be big amount.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 30, 2016, 07:03:52 PM
The solid proof is are the blockchain links. I was simply pointing out some similarities in the whois. It's a very low chance that someone in Panama would sell their site to someone else in Panama, with the same first name, and have very similar writing styles.

similar writing styles? it's easy, because is not my native language!

"very low chance that someone in Panama would sell their site to someone" is wrong! Panama is offshore and most of all gambling in regitred in Panama.

after Happy new year i will reinstall blockchain node..
I don't know that he is scammer.

Thanks for advice!
I can will be lost all my money!
I hate scammers!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: NLNico on December 31, 2016, 12:46:00 AM
To be honest I was planning to add negative trust already simply because you still claim that your site is provably fair even though it really isn't (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778). Either way, it seems no one should play on your site.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 31, 2016, 01:01:48 PM
To be honest I was planning to add negative trust already simply because you still claim that your site is provably fair even though it really isn't (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778). Either way, it seems no one should play on your site.

Players playing, play and will be play! Because this is very good bitcoin game. Not scam.
and paid winnings after 1 confirmation. no need wait long time!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lauda on December 31, 2016, 01:11:16 PM
I believe that this is pretty decent proof. Whether or not you're ban evading is an entirely different question, and it also comes down to the reasoning behind your ban (you had 3 accounts IIRC, 1 of which is banned).

Could you also stop breaking the forum rules by creating several posts in a row? Group them up.

and paid winnings after 1 confirmation. no need wait long time!
Which has nothing to do with being 'provably fair'.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 31, 2016, 01:47:27 PM
I believe that this is pretty decent proof. Whether or not you're ban evading is an entirely different question, and it also comes down to the reasoning behind your ban (you had 3 accounts IIRC, 1 of which is banned).

Could you also stop breaking the forum rules by creating several posts in a row? Group them up.

and paid winnings after 1 confirmation. no need wait long time!
Which has nothing to do with being 'provably fair'.

I have 1 account only username: crazybtrade

I don't breaking rules, i answer to differnt questions..

They have not proof that i scammer. I have proof that i paid all winnings and etc..
And have proof where i bought script and purchase service to install on vps.

I'm not scammer!

they give me red trust without cause..
I want clear my red trust

Thanks!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on December 31, 2016, 02:51:28 PM
I have 1 account only username: crazybtrade
It's not like you would tell us in case you had banned alts. I mean...that would be mighty stupid.

I don't breaking rules, i answer to differnt questions..
You can do that in one post, or at least everyone else can, you should learn to do it aswell.

They have not proof that i scammer. I have proof that i paid all winnings and etc..
"They" provided sufficient blockchain evidence. You on the other hand provided excuses and nothing more.

And have proof where i bought script and purchase service to install on vps.
Wanna show us? It's not going to change much, but you might aswell try putting something behind your words, not leave them empty.

they give me red trust without cause..I want clear my red trust
The "cause" is well documented and legit.
If you want to clear it, provide evidence to support your stance, and we might work it from there.



To be honest I was planning to add negative trust already simply because you still claim that your site is provably fair even though it really isn't (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778). Either way, it seems no one should play on your site.
I think you still should. That's another problem and people should be aware of it.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on December 31, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
I have 1 account only username: crazybtrade
It's not like you would tell us in case you had banned alts. I mean...that would be mighty stupid.

I don't breaking rules, i answer to differnt questions..
You can do that in one post, or at least everyone else can, you should learn to do it aswell.

They have not proof that i scammer. I have proof that i paid all winnings and etc..
"They" provided sufficient blockchain evidence. You on the other hand provided excuses and nothing more.

And have proof where i bought script and purchase service to install on vps.
Wanna show us? It's not going to change much, but you might aswell try putting something behind your words, not leave them empty.

they give me red trust without cause..I want clear my red trust
The "cause" is well documented and legit.
If you want to clear it, provide evidence to support your stance, and we might work it from there.



To be honest I was planning to add negative trust already simply because you still claim that your site is provably fair even though it really isn't (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778). Either way, it seems no one should play on your site.
I think you still should. That's another problem and people should be aware of it.

Ok. I will show my proof tommorow.. Because i'm very busy now.
Happy new year.
Not ban me please, im not scammer


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 01, 2017, 09:46:09 AM
My proof

I bought script
https://s28.postimg.org/nculbb8e5/bitgame.png

Read readme.txt
https://s24.postimg.org/d6xh2odn9/readme.png

Contacted to email.. He helped to install this script to my vps.
After I changed passwords of my vps hosting.

Link of script PM to DarkStar_ and Lutpin


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Xanidas on January 01, 2017, 01:37:08 PM
My proof

I bought script
https://s28.postimg.org/nculbb8e5/bitgame.png

Read readme.txt
https://s24.postimg.org/d6xh2odn9/readme.png

Contacted to email.. He helped to install this script to my vps.
After I changed passwords of my vps hosting.

Link of script PM to DarkStar_ and Lutpin

the trust is, if your addresses are connected, you are the scammer one. with your story you are trying to fool a 3 year old kid, you can't fool us with that BS story you have there. its impossible your address will be linked to the scammer if he don't have access to your wallet. stop it


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 01, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
Quote from: Xanidas

the trust is, if your addresses are connected, you are the scammer one. with your story you are trying to fool a 3 year old kid, you can't fool us with that BS story you have there. its impossible your address will be linked to the scammer if he don't have access to your wallet. stop it

Do you know how work vps?
Easy to change wallet.dat after inslalling..

If I scammer why I not run and create new address wallet?
and use old the marked wallet start scam site? It's stupid start scam site with old marked wallet..

Because I'm not scammer and don't know about this scammer..

Please clear red trust.

Thanks!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 01, 2017, 07:37:11 PM
My proof

I bought script
https://s28.postimg.org/nculbb8e5/bitgame.png

Read readme.txt
https://s24.postimg.org/d6xh2odn9/readme.png

Contacted to email.. He helped to install this script to my vps.
After I changed passwords of my vps hosting.

Link of script PM to DarkStar_ and Lutpin

What's the tx ID of you sending .9BTC to buy it?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on January 01, 2017, 08:37:38 PM
Do you know how work vps?
Do you?

Easy to change wallet.dat after inslalling..
So why didn't you? Why are you running your service from addresses connected to known scams, and addresses that are comprimised with a very high possibility?
Don't you give a single f* about the security of your users?

If I scammer why I not run and create new address wallet? and use old the marked wallet start scam site? It's stupid start scam site with old marked wallet..
You possibly didn't realize this. You slipped, and now try to cover. That's what I would put my money on.

Because I'm not scammer and don't know about this scammer..
First you said you purchased the script from him, now you "don't know" him? Well, get your story straight.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 01, 2017, 08:48:44 PM
I'd like to start off by thanking you for the nice -ve tag I got for pointing this out to from you. Also, no proof? Did you not read my post?
https://i.imgur.com/FTyP8H4.png

It seems you also tagged a few other people who agree with me, like talatk, who didn't even post in the thread but agreed about the proof. Reminds me of what RollinCoin did a while back with his shill accounts.

https://i.imgur.com/lGaUtTT.png



Anyway, I don't believe that you are legit. I got this link (https://satoshibox.com/8nfrvvnvypt2qpjpvetvwb7w) (archive) (https://archive.is/xWQoB) via PM which is the satoshibox link for the supposed script. I googled the link, since you would have to find the script link somewhere, right? Nothing. It would show even if it was embedded. So you somehow got the satoshibox link somewhere, and decided to buy it for a huge 0.9BTC! No screenshots, proof that it works, anything. Then you continued to contact them for help to install it, which they for some reason replied, installed it and installed Bitcoin Core on the VPS that you bought. They then add their own private keys to Bitcoin Core, instead of generating new keys and keeping those (if they wanted to scam you). You then continue to run your game for over a month without them stealing anything, and still keep 1 BTC in an address you know is compromised (1vsUrQQq9UaNycnpbPKRkHSe7th4n8R3k).


Seems legit.


What's the tx ID of you sending .9BTC to buy it?


I'd like to see this too.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 02, 2017, 07:04:04 AM
Anyway, I don't believe that you are legit. I got this link (https://satoshibox.com/8nfrvvnvypt2qpjpvetvwb7w) (archive) (https://archive.is/xWQoB) via PM which is the satoshibox link for the supposed script. I googled the link, since you would have to find the script link somewhere, right? Nothing. It would show even if it was embedded. So you somehow got the satoshibox link somewhere, and decided to buy it for a huge 0.9BTC! No screenshots, proof that it works, anything. Then you continued to contact them for help to install it, which they for some reason replied, installed it and installed Bitcoin Core on the VPS that you bought. They then add their own private keys to Bitcoin Core, instead of generating new keys and keeping those (if they wanted to scam you). You then continue to run your game for over a month without them stealing anything, and still keep 1 BTC in an address you know is compromised (1vsUrQQq9UaNycnpbPKRkHSe7th4n8R3k).


Seems legit.


What's the tx ID of you sending .9BTC to buy it?


I'd like to see this too.

Yes, it's true story.
I don't know how can he stealing my money if have not access to my vps.
How check private keys in console vps? I think he forgot set private key before my changed passwords.

Why must  I show tx ID .9BTC ? (i used my main wallet and i want keep private it)



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 02, 2017, 07:12:12 AM
Anyway, I don't believe that you are legit. I got this link (https://satoshibox.com/8nfrvvnvypt2qpjpvetvwb7w) (archive) (https://archive.is/xWQoB) via PM which is the satoshibox link for the supposed script. I googled the link, since you would have to find the script link somewhere, right? Nothing. It would show even if it was embedded. So you somehow got the satoshibox link somewhere, and decided to buy it for a huge 0.9BTC! No screenshots, proof that it works, anything. Then you continued to contact them for help to install it, which they for some reason replied, installed it and installed Bitcoin Core on the VPS that you bought. They then add their own private keys to Bitcoin Core, instead of generating new keys and keeping those (if they wanted to scam you). You then continue to run your game for over a month without them stealing anything, and still keep 1 BTC in an address you know is compromised (1vsUrQQq9UaNycnpbPKRkHSe7th4n8R3k).


Seems legit.


What's the tx ID of you sending .9BTC to buy it?


I'd like to see this too.

Yes, it's true story.
I don't know how can he stealing my money if have not access to my vps.
How check private keys in console vps? I think he forgot set private key before my changed passwords.

Why must  I show tx ID .9BTC ? (i used my main wallet and i want keep private it)



Because that would help prove that you aren't a scammer.  If you can't prove that you bought the script, the only logical conclusion is that you are the same person as the people who used the address that you use who stole all that money.

I'm sure you could show the tx id to someone in private, perhaps someone on the DT list who have neg repped you.  It's really the only way to potentially get that taken off.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: devans on January 02, 2017, 12:25:38 PM
I don't know how can he stealing my money if have not access to my vps.
How check private keys in console vps? I think he forgot set private key before my changed passwords.

Someone who has your private key can steal your funds at any time and without warning. He does not need further access to your server to do so.

I hate to say this, but this response makes you look dangerously uninformed and casts some doubt on your qualification for operating a Bitcoin casino, regardless of whether the other allegations are true. As a casino operator you are responsible for keeping your players' funds safe. Using a server that an untrustworthy third party set up and a private key that you did not generate yourself is grossly negligent.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 04, 2017, 03:04:54 AM
Still waiting for you to post your tx of 0.9BTC to buy the site, or for you to send it to someone trusted to verify the dates, e.t.c. You've been online quite a bit since the last post on this thread, and have yet to post here. We are giving you a chance to prove you actually purchased it, yet you refuse. You still claim that I didn't offer any proof, while I obviously did, and that you posted proof (which most people consider invalid). On top of that, you still keep 1 BTC in an address you know is compromised (and even if you didn't before, you've been told otherwise).

Do you have any idea how suspicious this looks?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 04, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Still waiting for you to post your tx of 0.9BTC to buy the site, or for you to send it to someone trusted to verify the dates, e.t.c. You've been online quite a bit since the last post on this thread, and have yet to post here. We are giving you a chance to prove you actually purchased it, yet you refuse. You still claim that I didn't offer any proof, while I obviously did, and that you posted proof (which most people consider invalid). On top of that, you still keep 1 BTC in an address you know is compromised (and even if you didn't before, you've been told otherwise).

Do you have any idea how suspicious this looks?

I want keep private my main wallet.
How check private keys on vps?

I wrote to seller, but he don't answer..

Please clear my trust.

Thanks!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 06, 2017, 12:07:32 AM
I want keep private my main wallet.
Why? If you really want privacy, you can send all your funds through a mixer and have a new private wallet. I will remove my negative trust if you share the transaction and I can verify the dates and other things. Or let me guess, you scammed someone before and don't want us knowing?

How check private keys on vps?

vps is very generic and doesn't help to what wallet your using. If your using bitcoin core, one of the commands you can use is dumpprivkey [insert address here].



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: BlackWidow on January 08, 2017, 09:42:09 PM
Still waiting for you to post your tx of 0.9BTC to buy the site, or for you to send it to someone trusted to verify the dates, e.t.c. You've been online quite a bit since the last post on this thread, and have yet to post here. We are giving you a chance to prove you actually purchased it, yet you refuse. You still claim that I didn't offer any proof, while I obviously did, and that you posted proof (which most people consider invalid). On top of that, you still keep 1 BTC in an address you know is compromised (and even if you didn't before, you've been told otherwise).

Do you have any idea how suspicious this looks?

I want keep private my main wallet.
How check private keys on vps?

I wrote to seller, but he don't answer..

Please clear my trust.

Thanks!

BUSTED.

You have no tx

You are way too uninformed to pull off this scam. It's actually funny because, this is the first case I can remember, that you bring a scammer is the lesser of the two evils.

You attempting to operate a CASINO would be a bloodbath!!!

LOL. Sorry for anyone who this guy scammed on the past.

This thread should be in some kind of textbook. This shit is classic. Smh


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 09, 2017, 01:13:25 AM
BUSTED.

You have no tx

You are way too uninformed to pull off this scam. It's actually funny because, this is the first case I can remember, that you bring a scammer is the lesser of the two evils.

You attempting to operate a CASINO would be a bloodbath!!!

LOL. Sorry for anyone who this guy scammed on the past.

This thread should be in some kind of textbook. This shit is classic. Smh

I have my tx.
Our casino is not scam.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on January 09, 2017, 01:14:53 AM
I have my tx. Our casino is not scam.
So...show us?



is this really need?
No, we're asking for it because it's not...


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 09, 2017, 01:17:20 AM
I want keep private my main wallet.
Why? If you really want privacy, you can send all your funds through a mixer and have a new private wallet. I will remove my negative trust if you share the transaction and I can verify the dates and other things. Or let me guess, you scammed someone before and don't want us knowing?

How check private keys on vps?

vps is very generic and doesn't help to what wallet your using. If your using bitcoin core, one of the commands you can use is dumpprivkey [insert address here].



I explain: i have tx and want keep private my address wallet. also i have not access to this wallet because it has been about 3.5 month ago.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 09, 2017, 01:19:38 AM
I have my tx. Our casino is not scam.
So...show us?

is this really need?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Cast12 on January 09, 2017, 01:30:54 AM
Better yet, if/once you have posted the tx, sign a message from the sending address so we'll know that it's yours(if this is not needed, then let me know).


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: PuraPuraBego on January 09, 2017, 07:07:47 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 09, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
I have my tx. Our casino is not scam.
So...show us?



is this really need?
No, we're asking for it because it's not...

OK,

my tx https://blockchain.info/tx/19304ee08e837a40886a027cd766710ed728554d636f8fd0c9032fc867e4b263

please clear my red trust.

thank you!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 09, 2017, 05:27:18 PM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: PuraPuraBego on January 09, 2017, 06:50:46 PM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

....

There's not hole for double spend, I've enough fee for every transaction  ::)


...
Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater
...
In fact you got my money  ::)
https://adoxography50.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/thats-funny.jpg


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: debuni on January 10, 2017, 12:26:59 AM
I have my tx. Our casino is not scam.
So...show us?



is this really need?
No, we're asking for it because it's not...

OK,

my tx https://blockchain.info/tx/19304ee08e837a40886a027cd766710ed728554d636f8fd0c9032fc867e4b263

please clear my red trust.

thank you!

Sign a message from the sender address: 1KdjwpQxUPLjaGo23tRbbSXftQVUkAekL3

Otherwise it's just some random transaction for 0.9BTC from the blockchain.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 10, 2017, 01:38:35 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.



Sign a message from the sender address: 1KdjwpQxUPLjaGo23tRbbSXftQVUkAekL3

Otherwise it's just some random transaction for 0.9BTC from the blockchain.

This.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 10, 2017, 01:52:46 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.

Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g3xn4/this_transaction_spends_an_input_which_is/

https://s27.postimg.org/njstnt1qr/faketx.png


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: zuyfg888 on January 10, 2017, 02:47:45 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.

Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g3xn4/this_transaction_spends_an_input_which_is/


in this case it is clear you don't really know how bitcoin works and yet to planned to run a gambling site? unconfirmed inputs doesn't mean double spend idiot. don't run a onchain gambling site if you don't know what could you face, unconfirmed inputs are not means of cheating. you even gave a link explaining what is unconfirmed inputs but did you even read it?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 10, 2017, 03:39:13 AM
in this case it is clear you don't really know how bitcoin works and yet to planned to run a gambling site? unconfirmed inputs doesn't mean double spend idiot. don't run a onchain gambling site if you don't know what could you face, unconfirmed inputs are not means of cheating. you even gave a link explaining what is unconfirmed inputs but did you even read it?

unconfirmed inputs doesn't mean double spend not always
i hear this from idiot.

I have catched him real-time... fake transactions!
all (lost bets) transaction disappeared after unconfirmed.. i have screenshots and tx's.. 
But all win bets has been confirmed..
This is easy double-spend attack..


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 10, 2017, 08:23:17 AM
Why are you deflecting?  Sign a message from the address that sent the .9BTC please.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 10, 2017, 08:24:49 AM
Oh, also, I'm curious why you registered the website in August if you didn't buy the script until October? 


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 10, 2017, 08:27:27 AM
Oh, also, I'm curious why you registered the website in August if you didn't buy the script until October?  

we ran site in october..
please see first my message of main thread.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 10, 2017, 08:30:50 AM
Oh, also, I'm curious why you registered the website in August if you didn't buy the script until October?  

we ran site in october..
please see first my message of main thread.

First off, stop deflecting.  Sign a message from the account that sent the .9BTC.  Do this now.  It takes under a minute.  Do this before you reply to anything else anywhere.

Do it right now.

Stop reading and do it. 


After you posted the signed message, my next question is the same as my last question.  We can all see when you registered the site: August 5, 2016.  Why did you register the site in August if you didn't but the script until October?  That makes no sense.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 10, 2017, 08:36:33 AM
Oh, also, I'm curious why you registered the website in August if you didn't buy the script until October?  

we ran site in october..
please see first my message of main thread.

First off, stop deflecting.  Sign a message from the account that sent the .9BTC.  Do this now.  It takes under a minute.  Do this before you reply to anything else anywhere.

Do it right now.

Stop reading and do it.  


After you posted the signed message, my next question is the same as my last question.  We can all see when you registered the site: August 5, 2016.  Why did you register the site in August if you didn't but the script until October?  That makes no sense.

read all message and get answer please..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1732739.msg17446067#msg17446067

because i collected bankroll and team about 2 month. after tested software (fix bug).. and only after all this ran site.
gambling site can't run for few days.. this is not easy.  you can lost all money e.t.c. if you want you can try it..


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: debuni on January 10, 2017, 10:49:43 PM
I have my tx. Our casino is not scam.
So...show us?



is this really need?
No, we're asking for it because it's not...

OK,

my tx https://blockchain.info/tx/19304ee08e837a40886a027cd766710ed728554d636f8fd0c9032fc867e4b263

please clear my red trust.

thank you!

Sign a message from the sender address: 1KdjwpQxUPLjaGo23tRbbSXftQVUkAekL3

Otherwise it's just some random transaction for 0.9BTC from the blockchain.

^^^

Until you sign a message from the address above, everything else is empty gibberish... It's even pointless to answer. And if you answer one more time like - "read all message and get answer please..", without signed message, even I will give you red trust and I will suggest every other reader to do it.




Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 11, 2017, 01:11:51 AM
Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..
Nah, you're the idiot.

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.
I never said that you accepted exchange/shared wallets. I said that Cloudbet, Polo, Fairlay, all spent unconfirmed inputs quite often as you'd be surprised at how many withdraws they process every 10 minutes. Most sites do this, and you are basically accusing them of all double spending by accusing the other person of double spending because they spent an unconfirmed input.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed
No you can't. The bitcoin network is a P2P network and transactions/blocks are broadcast from nodes that have the information to nodes that don't. There will at least be at least a  1ms delay (unless you are PuraPuraBego and broadcast the transactions from your own node...  ::))

If they did in fact disappear, it could be because you said that he was going to double spend and take his funds, and he didn't want to lose funds that way.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 11, 2017, 01:17:53 AM
Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..
Nah, you're the idiot.

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.
I never said that you accepted exchange/shared wallets. I said that Cloudbet, Polo, Fairlay, all spent unconfirmed inputs quite often as you'd be surprised at how many withdraws they process every 10 minutes. Most sites do this, and you are basically accusing them of all double spending by accusing the other person of double spending because they spent an unconfirmed input.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed
No you can't. The bitcoin network is a P2P network and transactions/blocks are broadcast from nodes that have the information to nodes that don't. There will at least be at least a  1ms delay (unless you are PuraPuraBego and broadcast the transactions from your own node...  ::))

If they did in fact disappear, it could be because you said that he was going to double spend and take his funds, and he didn't want to lose funds that way.


you're the idiot.

ask secondstrade about double spend! He will answer to your stupid questions...
 


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 11, 2017, 01:20:23 AM
you're the idiot.

ask secondstrade about double spend! He will answer to your stupid questions...

I'm perfectly aware of how double spending works, but thank you for telling me where I could learn more. Do you agree that other large services spend unconfirmed inputs, and therefore are all scams/double spenders? (basically what you said)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 11, 2017, 01:25:32 AM
you're the idiot.

ask secondstrade about double spend! He will answer to your stupid questions...

I'm perfectly aware of how double spending works, but thank you for telling me where I could learn more. Do you agree that other large services spend unconfirmed inputs, and therefore are all scams/double spenders? (basically what you said)

his wallet is not large services..

DarkStar_  your words that does not cost cent..
I posted proof and you keep your words.. clear my trust please


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 11, 2017, 02:43:47 AM
DarkStar_  your words that does not cost cent..
I posted proof and you keep your words.. clear my trust please

I said I would do it when I verified everything. I find it very suspicious that you registered the domain way before you purchased the script, and the fact that you keep ignoring the request to sign a message from the address. I've reworded my negative trust now (which I had to delete my original rating to do), and it will stay until you sign a message.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 11, 2017, 03:45:55 AM
DarkStar_  your words that does not cost cent..
I posted proof and you keep your words.. clear my trust please

I said I would do it when I verified everything. I find it very suspicious that you registered the domain way before you purchased the script, and the fact that you keep ignoring the request to sign a message from the address. I've reworded my negative trust now (which I had to delete my original rating to do), and it will stay until you sign a message.

this has been about ~3 month ago.
I have not access to this wallet, lost privatekey.. privatekey can't recovery

Do you know that need first.. it's buy domain, because all good names not available.
I'm not first day in web, i have good some project in web.. you try teach me what need doing? buy domain or buy script first :) you are user only :)

for my proof, post link with script where i bought (before i PM only) https://satoshibox.com/8nfrvvnvypt2qpjpvetvwb7w

do you try my betting site? (and say that scam, not good man)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: eddie13 on January 11, 2017, 04:27:22 AM
Why must  I show tx ID .9BTC ? (i used my main wallet and i want keep private it)

this has been about ~3 month ago.
I have not access to this wallet, lost privatekey.. privatekey can't recovery

....


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: debuni on January 11, 2017, 05:10:39 AM
I have my tx. Our casino is not scam.
So...show us?



is this really need?
No, we're asking for it because it's not...

OK,

my tx https://blockchain.info/tx/19304ee08e837a40886a027cd766710ed728554d636f8fd0c9032fc867e4b263

please clear my red trust.

thank you!

Sign a message from the sender address: 1KdjwpQxUPLjaGo23tRbbSXftQVUkAekL3

Otherwise it's just some random transaction for 0.9BTC from the blockchain.

^^^

Until you sign a message from the address above, everything else is empty gibberish... It's even pointless to answer. And if you answer one more time like - "read all message and get answer please..", without signed message, even I will give you red trust and I will suggest every other reader to do it.

vvv

Why must  I show tx ID .9BTC ? (i used my main wallet and i want keep private it)

this has been about ~3 month ago.
I have not access to this wallet, lost privatekey.. privatekey can't recovery

....


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: PuraPuraBego on January 11, 2017, 05:29:08 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.

Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g3xn4/this_transaction_spends_an_input_which_is/

...
"This transaction spends an input which in unconfirmed" Then if people have spends money was bet on your site will be mark as cheating ? .If i were a double spend transaction will be showing notice "Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender." .
This may not deviant behavior for him, because he lives with a lie (Cheating). I do not discuss about damages for the loss, but I was a little worried about your behavior.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 11, 2017, 05:34:02 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.

Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g3xn4/this_transaction_spends_an_input_which_is/

...
"This transaction spends an input which in unconfirmed" Then if people have spends money was bet on your site will be mark as cheating ? .If i were a double spend transaction will be showing notice "Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender." .
This may not deviant behavior for him, because he lives with a lie (Cheating). I do not discuss about damages for the loss, but I was a little worried about your behavior.

Do you have the tx ids showing that you sent the site money (successfully)?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 11, 2017, 06:07:22 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.

Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g3xn4/this_transaction_spends_an_input_which_is/

...
"This transaction spends an input which in unconfirmed" Then if people have spends money was bet on your site will be mark as cheating ? .If i were a double spend transaction will be showing notice "Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender." .
This may not deviant behavior for him, because he lives with a lie (Cheating). I do not discuss about damages for the loss, but I was a little worried about your behavior.

Do you have the tx ids showing that you sent the site money (successfully)?

you removed link with image from quote!
and ask tx id?

for example see it:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Transaction not found tx will be disappeared after he did not confirmed (lose bet)
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Unconfirmed 23 days

if tx will be confirmed (for win bet), you can not see that is double-spend

His words (PuraPuraBego) :
"Just patient for block
Although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account "

https://s27.postimg.org/njstnt1qr/faketx.png



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 11, 2017, 06:46:41 AM
DarkStar_  your words that does not cost cent..
I posted proof and you keep your words.. clear my trust please

I said I would do it when I verified everything. I find it very suspicious that you registered the domain way before you purchased the script, and the fact that you keep ignoring the request to sign a message from the address. I've reworded my negative trust now (which I had to delete my original rating to do), and it will stay until you sign a message.

Why are you writing about me? I am not scammer!
I explained my story. your proof is not valid, it is just empty words.

Try to play our game and you will understand that there is not any deceit.

or if you're so cool dude, buy this script and prove that I am a liar.
weak?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Avirunes on January 11, 2017, 07:27:27 AM
Why are you writing about me? I am not scammer!
I explained my story. your proof is not valid, it is just empty words.

Just that you explained your part doesn't makes the proof presented by DarkStar invalid.

Quote
Try to play our game and you will understand that there is not any deceit.


And that will make you legit? I don't think so  :(

Quote
or if you're so cool dude, buy this script and prove that I am a liar.
weak?

This script has nothing to do with you being connected with Rollincoin owner. TBH so far whatever you said here was a lie which is what I believe.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 11, 2017, 08:10:07 AM
Why are you writing about me? I am not scammer!
I explained my story. your proof is not valid, it is just empty words.

Just that you explained your part doesn't makes the proof presented by DarkStar invalid.

Quote
Try to play our game and you will understand that there is not any deceit.


And that will make you legit? I don't think so  :(

Quote
or if you're so cool dude, buy this script and prove that I am a liar.
weak?

This script has nothing to do with you being connected with Rollincoin owner. TBH so far whatever you said here was a lie which is what I believe.

really?

script have readme.txt

Read readme.txt
https://s24.postimg.org/d6xh2odn9/readme.png


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: zuyfg888 on January 11, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Why are you writing about me? I am not scammer!
I explained my story. your proof is not valid, it is just empty words.

Just that you explained your part doesn't makes the proof presented by DarkStar invalid.

Quote
Try to play our game and you will understand that there is not any deceit.


And that will make you legit? I don't think so  :(

Quote
or if you're so cool dude, buy this script and prove that I am a liar.
weak?

This script has nothing to do with you being connected with Rollincoin owner. TBH so far whatever you said here was a lie which is what I believe.

really?

script have readme.txt

Read readme.txt
https://s24.postimg.org/d6xh2odn9/readme.png

What does that readme text proves anyway? Your statements doesn't connect. The most obvious one that is a lie is this

Why must  I show tx ID .9BTC ? (i used my main wallet and i want keep private it)

this has been about ~3 month ago.
I have not access to this wallet, lost privatekey.. privatekey can't recovery

....

Can you explain this further?

So far you didn't prove anything yet.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: PuraPuraBego on January 11, 2017, 09:14:39 AM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.

Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g3xn4/this_transaction_spends_an_input_which_is/

...
"This transaction spends an input which in unconfirmed" Then if people have spends money was bet on your site will be mark as cheating ? .If i were a double spend transaction will be showing notice "Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender." .
This may not deviant behavior for him, because he lives with a lie (Cheating). I do not discuss about damages for the loss, but I was a little worried about your behavior.

Do you have the tx ids showing that you sent the site money (successfully)?
Sure mate, Here we go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16939574#msg16939574 .


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 11, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
With all due my respect, I actually want to make " Scam Accusations " for crazybtrade. Without further ado here may already proven REFERENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16940153#msg16940153)  ::)

Is not scam. You tried cheat us.
Use double spends and transactions spends an input which is unconfirmed.

Your 1 bet is really, 9 bets is fake.
after my post, he confirmed transaction but he want cheat our game.. our game not pay winnings to cheater

You're an idiot, don't understand how bitcoin works, or just want to steal customer funds. It's perfectly normal to spend an unconfirmed input. Sites that process many withdraws in a short period of time do it all the time, like my Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c withdraws. If you're accusing them all of double spending (and probably many other sites as well), please find an transaction that they actually double spent and accuse them of it. It's pretty serious if your claim is real.

Cloudbet, Poloniex, Fairlay, e.t.c ??
idiot? i think this you are..

We not accept exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have
control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase, xapo wallet.

I see in real-time how he cheating me.. and some transaction disappeared after he did not confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g3xn4/this_transaction_spends_an_input_which_is/

...
"This transaction spends an input which in unconfirmed" Then if people have spends money was bet on your site will be mark as cheating ? .If i were a double spend transaction will be showing notice "Warning! this transaction is a double spend. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to/from this sender." .
This may not deviant behavior for him, because he lives with a lie (Cheating). I do not discuss about damages for the loss, but I was a little worried about your behavior.

Do you have the tx ids showing that you sent the site money (successfully)?
Sure mate, Here we go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16939574#msg16939574 .

It does look like all of those transactions went through.  Do you have the 'results' anywhere?  Did you not get paid on winning bets?  That seems pretty bad, especially since all of the bets were coming from the same address.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 11, 2017, 10:46:16 PM
That seems pretty bad, especially since all of the bets were coming from the same address.
I agree. Looking at some of the transactions, PuraPuraBego created 10 transactions, each spending the change from the previous bet. Nothing wrong with that, and it is a highly unlikely double spend as double spending an input in the middle would make other bets void. I suppose (if they did want to double spend) they might be been waiting to double spend the first input if the net was a negative.

Definitely not double spending, and the only reason it happened was because of your bad system (not accepting multiple outputs as multiple bets, like luckybit does)

If the winnings weren't paid out at all, which the posts in the thread seem to lead, than crazybtrade has scammed someone, regardless if they were RollinCoin or not. (archive) (https://archive.is/XjSgs) It appears that no payouts were made to the address 1SiiGGb6HznTRbgYGn9PQekXkzD5HetG5 (https://blockchain.info/address/1SiiGGb6HznTRbgYGn9PQekXkzD5HetG5), so unless every bet lost (extremely low chance), crazybtrade is in fact a scammer.

Try to play our game and you will understand that there is not any deceit.
or if you're so cool dude, buy this script and prove that I am a liar.
weak?

Do you really think I will play your game or waste 0.9 BTC buying the script? Hell no.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: BlackWidow on January 11, 2017, 11:25:43 PM
Why are you STILL going on and on.

You have been proven a scammer.

With as hard as you are trying, you would sign a message in a second to prove your point.

The fact that you keep dancing around and talking about nothing shows what you are. A Scammer. Just give it up, you are caught.

So like it has been said, sign a message from the address that sent the .9 BTC or DO NOT post anymore.

Sign the message or give up



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: actmyname on January 11, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
It does look like all of those transactions went through.  Do you have the 'results' anywhere?  Did you not get paid on winning bets?  That seems pretty bad, especially since all of the bets were coming from the same address.

In the past, had we not talked about how there's no clear way to verify the bets since it takes the BTCC exchange buy price and volume at a given timestamp (specified to the second)? (link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778))

Whatever results crazybtrade would offer can not be proven to be true... and likewise with PuraPuraBego.



you removed link with image from quote!
and ask tx id?

for example see it:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Transaction not found tx will be disappeared after he did not confirmed (lose bet)

What does that transaction have to do with anything? It doesn't match any of PuraPuraBego's transaction ID's that he listed, and could simply be a random txid that you came up with.



@crazybtrade, how did you manage to "lose" your wallet? It couldn't have possibly had only one address in it (which was the one that gained the 0.9 BTC) could it? If it in fact is only one address, then how did you initially fund the wallet?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 11, 2017, 11:59:18 PM
It does look like all of those transactions went through.  Do you have the 'results' anywhere?  Did you not get paid on winning bets?  That seems pretty bad, especially since all of the bets were coming from the same address.

In the past, had we not talked about how there's no clear way to verify the bets since it takes the BTCC exchange buy price and volume at a given timestamp (specified to the second)? (link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778))

Whatever results crazybtrade would offer can not be proven to be true... and likewise with PuraPuraBego.

You quoted me, so I assume the "we" is you and I?  I don't recall every discussing that, no.  And I'm not sure what that has to do with what I'm asking.  I was saying that if he made 10 valid bets and was supposed to win at least one of them, and didn't get paid, that's a clear scam.

Are you trying to say that 9 of the bets were never "rolled" and the owner just stole the money straight away without any pretenses of fairness?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: actmyname on January 12, 2017, 12:59:59 AM
You quoted me, so I assume the "we" is you and I?  I don't recall every discussing that, no.  

Sorry, I was using "we" as inclusive of everyone that had commented on either this thread or any crazybtrade threads. I'll make that distinction next time.

And I'm not sure what that has to do with what I'm asking.

The bet results are based off BTCC buy price and the volume. If any combination of the hash with those values in the same second is a loss, then crazybtrade can state that they used those values to calculate the bet and that it was automated.

It's not to say that the bets aren't automated, but there's the chance for larger bets to be processed manually (and then used to scam)

Quote from: DarkDays link=topic=1732739.msg17476876#msg17476876
Are you trying to say that 9 of the bets were never "rolled" and the owner just stole the money straight away without any pretenses of fairness?

Perhaps the bets were not rolled because crazybtrade made the wild assumption that they were going to be used as fraudulent transactions - double spent if they lost.



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 01:22:32 AM
That seems pretty bad, especially since all of the bets were coming from the same address.
I agree. Looking at some of the transactions, PuraPuraBego created 10 transactions, each spending the change from the previous bet. Nothing wrong with that, and it is a highly unlikely double spend as double spending an input in the middle would make other bets void. I suppose (if they did want to double spend) they might be been waiting to double spend the first input if the net was a negative.

Definitely not double spending, and the only reason it happened was because of your bad system (not accepting multiple outputs as multiple bets, like luckybit does)

If the winnings weren't paid out at all, which the posts in the thread seem to lead, than crazybtrade has scammed someone, regardless if they were RollinCoin or not. (archive) (https://archive.is/XjSgs) It appears that no payouts were made to the address 1SiiGGb6HznTRbgYGn9PQekXkzD5HetG5 (https://blockchain.info/address/1SiiGGb6HznTRbgYGn9PQekXkzD5HetG5), so unless every bet lost (extremely low chance), crazybtrade is in fact a scammer.

Try to play our game and you will understand that there is not any deceit.
or if you're so cool dude, buy this script and prove that I am a liar.
weak?

Do you really think I will play your game or waste 0.9 BTC buying the script? Hell no.

for example see it:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Transaction not found tx will be disappeared after he did not confirmed (lose bet)
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Unconfirmed 23 days
if tx will be confirmed (for win bet), you can not see that is double-spend

His words (PuraPuraBego) :
"Just patient for block
Although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account "

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16939648#msg16939648

PuraPuraBego is cheater!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: actmyname on January 12, 2017, 01:48:41 AM
for example see it:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Transaction not found tx will be disappeared after he did not confirmed (lose bet)
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Unconfirmed 23 days
if tx will be confirmed (for win bet), you can not see that is double-spend

His words (PuraPuraBego) :
"Just patient for block
Although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account "

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16939648#msg16939648

PuraPuraBego is cheater!

There is no link between that transaction and PuraPuraBego.

Although PuraPuraBego may have stated "although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account", that could have just as easily been a miscommunication error - it's heavily implied that instead of double spend, they meant "unconfirmed input".

I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to refund (at least some of) the bets given that they were confirmed. Do you seriously mean to say that PuraPuraBego had won all 9 of those bets? Do you have the history for that?



I'm asking the question again:
How did you manage to "lose" your wallet? It couldn't have possibly had only one address in it (which was the one that gained the 0.9 BTC) could it? If it in fact is only one address, then how did you initially fund the wallet?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 01:49:25 AM

The bet results are based off BTCC buy price and the volume. If any combination of the hash with those values in the same second is a loss, then crazybtrade can state that they used those values to calculate the bet and that it was automated.

It's not to say that the bets aren't automated, but there's the chance for larger bets to be processed manually (and then used to scam)


all bets automated, 0.0005-0.25BTC


for example see it:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Transaction not found tx will be disappeared after he did not confirmed (lose bet)
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Unconfirmed 23 days
if tx will be confirmed (for win bet), you can not see that is double-spend

His words (PuraPuraBego) :
"Just patient for block
Although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account "

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16939648#msg16939648

PuraPuraBego is cheater!

There is no link between that transaction and PuraPuraBego.

Although PuraPuraBego may have stated "although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account", that could have just as easily been a miscommunication error - it's heavily implied that instead of double spend, they meant "unconfirmed input".

I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to refund (at least some of) the bets given that they were confirmed. Do you seriously mean to say that PuraPuraBego had won all 9 of those bets? Do you have the history for that?



I'm asking the question again:
How did you manage to "lose" your wallet? It couldn't have possibly had only one address in it (which was the one that gained the 0.9 BTC) could it? If it in fact is only one address, then how did you initially fund the wallet?

this does not matter: lose or win. we not pay cheater.
This happen real-time.. when i post about, bets has been not confirmated.. after my post he said that will be ok. but this fact of double-spends


Please understand me and my story.
I lost private key.. I bought BTC on exchange service.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Avirunes on January 12, 2017, 03:04:53 AM

The bet results are based off BTCC buy price and the volume. If any combination of the hash with those values in the same second is a loss, then crazybtrade can state that they used those values to calculate the bet and that it was automated.

It's not to say that the bets aren't automated, but there's the chance for larger bets to be processed manually (and then used to scam)


all bets automated, 0.0005-0.25BTC


for example see it:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Transaction not found tx will be disappeared after he did not confirmed (lose bet)
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Unconfirmed 23 days
if tx will be confirmed (for win bet), you can not see that is double-spend

His words (PuraPuraBego) :
"Just patient for block
Although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account "

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16939648#msg16939648

PuraPuraBego is cheater!

There is no link between that transaction and PuraPuraBego.

Although PuraPuraBego may have stated "although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account", that could have just as easily been a miscommunication error - it's heavily implied that instead of double spend, they meant "unconfirmed input".

I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to refund (at least some of) the bets given that they were confirmed. Do you seriously mean to say that PuraPuraBego had won all 9 of those bets? Do you have the history for that?



I'm asking the question again:
How did you manage to "lose" your wallet? It couldn't have possibly had only one address in it (which was the one that gained the 0.9 BTC) could it? If it in fact is only one address, then how did you initially fund the wallet?

this does not matter: lose or win. we not pay cheater.
This happen real-time.. when i post about, bets has been not confirmated.. after my post he said that will be ok. but this fact of double-spends

Since your game is real-time based and bet was confirmed later, maybe his bets didn't processed in your site but in that case at least you should have refunded BTC. Just because that you saw it unconfirmed and the game didn't rolled doesn't means someone is a cheater.There are many onchain games like Luckyb.it etc. which only rolls the game after confirmation but I have never heard any onchain games running theory of not processing/refunding bet if the bet was confirmed after some hours or took time. Also I think your game wasn't developed to process stucked transactions in which I think bets above of PuraPuraBego should be refunded atleast.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 03:17:37 AM

The bet results are based off BTCC buy price and the volume. If any combination of the hash with those values in the same second is a loss, then crazybtrade can state that they used those values to calculate the bet and that it was automated.

It's not to say that the bets aren't automated, but there's the chance for larger bets to be processed manually (and then used to scam)


all bets automated, 0.0005-0.25BTC


for example see it:
https://blockchain.info/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Transaction not found tx will be disappeared after he did not confirmed (lose bet)
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/9041dde8bab67aa7d9e7b0623e343c0f2d6da4396a26db3e2fa93b0debcaff21 Unconfirmed 23 days
if tx will be confirmed (for win bet), you can not see that is double-spend

His words (PuraPuraBego) :
"Just patient for block
Although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account "

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1686290.msg16939648#msg16939648

PuraPuraBego is cheater!

There is no link between that transaction and PuraPuraBego.

Although PuraPuraBego may have stated "although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account", that could have just as easily been a miscommunication error - it's heavily implied that instead of double spend, they meant "unconfirmed input".

I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to refund (at least some of) the bets given that they were confirmed. Do you seriously mean to say that PuraPuraBego had won all 9 of those bets? Do you have the history for that?



I'm asking the question again:
How did you manage to "lose" your wallet? It couldn't have possibly had only one address in it (which was the one that gained the 0.9 BTC) could it? If it in fact is only one address, then how did you initially fund the wallet?

this does not matter: lose or win. we not pay cheater.
This happen real-time.. when i post about, bets has been not confirmated.. after my post he said that will be ok. but this fact of double-spends

Since your game is real-time based and bet was confirmed later, maybe his bets didn't processed in your site but in that case at least you should have refunded BTC. Just because that you saw it unconfirmed and the game didn't rolled doesn't means someone is a cheater.There are many onchain games like Luckyb.it etc. which only rolls the game after confirmation but I have never heard any onchain games running theory of not processing/refunding bet if the bet was confirmed after some hours or took time. Also I think your game wasn't developed to process stucked transactions in which I think bets above of PuraPuraBego should be refunded atleast.

Do you know why luckybit rolls game after confirmation?
I know it. luckybit worked similar my script now. and rolls the game 0 confirmation. only payout after 1 confirmation.
they changed script.. because one man double-spender hack luckybit and get some btc :)
secondstrade hacked double-spenders also :)
but our script have guard double-spend atack!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: PuraPuraBego on January 12, 2017, 03:56:51 AM
this does not matter: lose or win. we not pay cheater.
This happen real-time.. when i post about, bets has been not confirmated.. after my post he said that will be ok. but this fact of double-spends
Well, I've been two years recognize bitcoin, many phases of transactions I did. When I get bitcoins to my wallets,sometimes I immediately for spend my bitcoins. As me know about  bitcoins transaction these will be soon arrive for block just need a little patience because I was required to miss several blocks.
Please understand me and my story.
I lost private key.. I bought BTC on exchange service.
Just prove you was bought BTC on exchange service.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 12, 2017, 04:18:44 AM
You quoted me, so I assume the "we" is you and I?  I don't recall every discussing that, no. 

Sorry, I was using "we" as inclusive of everyone that had commented on either this thread or any crazybtrade threads. I'll make that distinction next time.

And I'm not sure what that has to do with what I'm asking.

The bet results are based off BTCC buy price and the volume. If any combination of the hash with those values in the same second is a loss, then crazybtrade can state that they used those values to calculate the bet and that it was automated.

It's not to say that the bets aren't automated, but there's the chance for larger bets to be processed manually (and then used to scam)

Quote from: DarkDays link=topic=1732739.msg17476876#msg17476876
Are you trying to say that 9 of the bets were never "rolled" and the owner just stole the money straight away without any pretenses of fairness?

Perhaps the bets were not rolled because crazybtrade made the wild assumption that they were going to be used as fraudulent transactions - double spent if they lost.



Gotcha, you're saying that the game isn't provably fair.  I agree, and you did a great job of proving that earlier. 


this does not matter: lose or win. we not pay cheater.
This happen real-time.. when i post about, bets has been not confirmated.. after my post he said that will be ok. but this fact of double-spends


How did he cheat?  All the transactions were confirmed!  You stole his money.  He didn't double spend any of those coins did he?  Go back and look at those 10 transactions.  Tell me where he double spent them.  It's clear that you are both non-native English speakers trying to communicate in English...mistakes happen!  Did he say "double spend" when he meant "Sent unconfirmed?"  From context, it certainly seems like it.  Therefore...you stole his money.  And you're bragging about it!  That's really fucked up.

Stealing people's money that's sent from unconfirmed transactions is wrong (also, you know, illegal).  Tons of people send off of unconfirmed transactions because THAT'S HOW THE BLOCKCHAIN WORKS!  You need to refund this guy's money immediately and then shut your site down because it's become glaringly clear that you are in way over your head and are making mistakes...either intentionally or unintentionally...that result in stealing people's money. 


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 06:13:17 AM
How did he cheat?  All the transactions were confirmed!  You stole his money.  He didn't double spend any of those coins did he?  Go back and look at those 10 transactions.  Tell me where he double spent them.  It's clear that you are both non-native English speakers trying to communicate in English...mistakes happen!  Did he say "double spend" when he meant "Sent unconfirmed?"  From context, it certainly seems like it.  Therefore...you stole his money.  And you're bragging about it!  That's really fucked up.

Stealing people's money that's sent from unconfirmed transactions is wrong (also, you know, illegal).  Tons of people send off of unconfirmed transactions because THAT'S HOW THE BLOCKCHAIN WORKS!  You need to refund this guy's money immediately and then shut your site down because it's become glaringly clear that you are in way over your head and are making mistakes...either intentionally or unintentionally...that result in stealing people's money. 

You can not see double-spend or not after confirmation!
This case was been double-spends is fact.
We not refund no any cent cheater.
We not stealing money from unconfirmed transactions.
our script full-automated and catch double-spender!

about provably fair:
bitcoin game with Provably fair!
How it work?

Verification of bet
1. The crazyBtrade.com use real time data from exchange BTCC.com (spot.btcc.com),
The buy price BTC/CNY, volume and time stamp is perfectly out of our control!

2. Provably HASH value is hash SHA256 of BTC/CNY buy price : TIMESTAMP (unix time stamp, unixtimestamp.com) : VOLUME : TXID ( bitcoin transaction id of your payment).

For example:
TIMESTAMP=1475569996
BTC/CNY buy price=4069.32
VOLUME=182820.55980000
TXID=de1f78ed0e2fdb557458a4af1aecf17d73b06df8ed51cd0d14919dcf995b4175

Seed value=4069.32:1475569996:182820.55980000:de1f78ed0e2fdb557458a4af1aecf17d73b06df8ed51cd0d14919dcf995b4175 (BTC/CNY:TIMESTAMP:VOLUME:TXID)
Provably HASH=
sha256(4069.32:1475569996:182820.55980000:de1f78ed0e2fdb557458a4af1aecf17d73b06df8ed51cd0d14919dcf995b4175)=
1a6e1f9e27d5e8e8a2014a3c56bfd6ca975a72580aa4b1c8670bac344ca9c1f0

3. If you have choosed EVEN bet
and the first digit of Provably HASH is EVEN then you WIN 198%. Winning = bet amount X 1.98
If the first digit of Provably HASH is ODD then you LOSE.

4. If you have choosed ODD bet
and the first digit of Provably HASH is ODD then you WIN 198%. Winning = bet amount X 1.98
If the first digit of Provably HASH is EVEN then you LOSE.

You can always see the same result of sha256
(4069.32:1475569996:182820.55980000:de1f78ed0e2fdb557458a4af1aecf17d73b06df8ed51cd0d14919dcf995b4175)
on ( xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 12, 2017, 06:20:02 AM
This case was been double-spends is fact.

Please post the 10 other transactions that those coins were double spent on.

You can't.

Because they don't exist.

The only fact is that you got the money.  And you kept it.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: NLNico on January 12, 2017, 06:36:36 AM
about provably fair:
bitcoin game with Provably fair!
Your game is not provably fair. I could copy your game and generate a losing result for the player 100% of the time while it would still "verify" according to your method. I can do this by simply using a slightly different time, because there is NO fixed time on a transaction.

I have explained this multiple times now:

You cannot use timestamps if you want to be provably fair. There is no fixed timestamp at bitcoin transactions. There can be a 0 - 10 second delay EASILY between when a bitcoin node gets the transaction. You could maliciously change the timestamp to 1,2,3,4.. seconds later to make the player lose. There is no way for the player to verify if you did this. Therefor it's impossible to generate a provably fair outcome with this.

I am not saying you are a scam. I am also not saying that you are cheating. I could believe that you are honest. But provably fair is not about believing or trusting.

Provably fair is a way for the players to verify and prove if they have been cheated or not. On your site, they cannot verify and prove this, because using "timestamp" is unreliable as shown in my previous posts. Therefor the player just has to trust you to be fair.

That is "trust us, we are fair" and not "provably (=you can prove we are) fair".

And in more detail starting from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778







Since you continue to ignore me and claim that this game is provably fair (while it really is NOT provably fair AT ALL), I will add negative trust too. Your game doesn't have to be provably fair, but if it's not, you should not promote it as provably fair.



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 06:56:06 AM
about provably fair:
bitcoin game with Provably fair!
Your game is not provably fair. I could copy your game and generate a losing result for the player 100% of the time while it would still "verify" according to your method. I can do this by simply using a slightly different time, because there is NO fixed time on a transaction.

I have explained this multiple times now:

You cannot use timestamps if you want to be provably fair. There is no fixed timestamp at bitcoin transactions. There can be a 0 - 10 second delay EASILY between when a bitcoin node gets the transaction. You could maliciously change the timestamp to 1,2,3,4.. seconds later to make the player lose. There is no way for the player to verify if you did this. Therefor it's impossible to generate a provably fair outcome with this.

I am not saying you are a scam. I am also not saying that you are cheating. I could believe that you are honest. But provably fair is not about believing or trusting.

Provably fair is a way for the players to verify and prove if they have been cheated or not. On your site, they cannot verify and prove this, because using "timestamp" is unreliable as shown in my previous posts. Therefor the player just has to trust you to be fair.

That is "trust us, we are fair" and not "provably (=you can prove we are) fair".

And in more detail starting from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17188778#msg17188778


Since you continue to ignore me and claim that this game is provably fair (while it really is NOT provably fair AT ALL), I will add negative trust too. Your game doesn't have to be provably fair, but if it's not, you should not promote it as provably fair.



you said that famous exchange BTCC price BTC/CNY is not provably fair.. please contact, they explain you +1 888 518 2822



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: NLNico on January 12, 2017, 07:08:31 AM
Lol?

No, I am saying many times now that you cannot use timestamp in a provably fair calculation. What has that to do with BTCC? Did you read my message here or just ignored it?




In addition, I am sure that BTC/CNY price is just as well unreliable and unverifiable because there is no clear public history of 1 specific price per timestamp - this has nothing to with the reputation of BTCC. But I am not even talking about that here.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 07:19:30 AM
Lol?

No, I am saying many times now that you cannot use timestamp in a provably fair calculation. What has that to do with BTCC? Did you read my message here or just ignored it?

In addition, I am sure that BTC/CNY price is just as well unreliable and unverifiable because there is no clear public history of 1 specific price per timestamp - this has nothing to with the reputation of BTCC. But I am not even talking about that here.

I can't change timestamp.. i get it from api BTCC.


You have dice listing..
dice site can make fake seed for scam but you don't post about it.
strange...

You write about provably fair https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
You mislead people because many dice sites use fake seed and have full control provably fair system, they can make to lose easy.. and players lost all money.
playing on dice - result is one - lost all money

hash before bet but he use another string and will be equal! But result will be different..

In fact, this effect is achieved through quick search methods for collision hash functions developed in 2004-2006. If one does not know the collision are two different sets of data having the same hash value. So, in 2004, a group of Chinese researchers developed an algorithm based on differential cryptanalysis, which allows for a relatively short time to find two different random data block size of 128 bytes each, having the same md5 sum. Although this algorithm at one time produced the effect of a bomb of his performance left much to be desired. But already in 2006 Czech cryptographer Vlastimil Klima offered to search for a new collision method to find a couple of different random 128 byte blocks one md5 sum of a personal computer less than a minute.

it's possible for md5, sha256, sha521


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on January 12, 2017, 07:21:51 AM
Lol?
No, I am saying many times now that you cannot use timestamp in a provably fair calculation. What has that to do with BTCC? Did you read my message here or just ignored it?
In addition, I am sure that BTC/CNY price is just as well unreliable and unverifiable because there is no clear public history of 1 specific price per timestamp - this has nothing to with the reputation of BTCC. But I am not even talking about that here.
Appreciate the effort, but you're wasting your time, I doubt crazybtrade will get any of it.



I've been keeping quiet here for a long time, but let me state a few things.
You're in no way abled to operate a gambling site. You lack basic skills like integrity, honesty, aswell as knowledge about bitcoin and other things.
Further, you're ignorant. And that's your biggest problem.
Just look at this thread, look at all the things brought up (your connection to RollinCoin, the not processed bets, the provably fair problem).
You were not abled to respond to any of it in a statisfying way. You've had more than just one person trying to explain you how things are not the way you presented them,
but you've been sticking to your sick, wrong, imagination of things.

My negative trust on your account is final and won't be removed. I think nobody should trust you with a single satoshi.
Regardless if you are indeed RollinCoin, regardless if you refund the player you screwed over, regardless if you change your wrong advertising claims.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 07:29:01 AM
Lol?
No, I am saying many times now that you cannot use timestamp in a provably fair calculation. What has that to do with BTCC? Did you read my message here or just ignored it?
In addition, I am sure that BTC/CNY price is just as well unreliable and unverifiable because there is no clear public history of 1 specific price per timestamp - this has nothing to with the reputation of BTCC. But I am not even talking about that here.
Appreciate the effort, but you're wasting your time, I doubt crazybtrade will get any of it.



I've been keeping quiet here for a long time, but let me state a few things.
You're in no way abled to operate a gambling site. You lack basic skills like integrity, honesty, aswell as knowledge about bitcoin and other things.
Further, you're ignorant. And that's your biggest problem.
Just look at this thread, look at all the things brought up (your connection to RollinCoin, the not processed bets, the provably fair problem).
You were not abled to respond to any of it in a statisfying way. You've had more than just one person trying to explain you how things are not the way you presented them,
but you've been sticking to your sick, wrong, imagination of things.

My negative trust on your account is final and won't be removed. I think nobody should trust you with a single satoshi.
Regardless if you are indeed RollinCoin, regardless if you refund the player you screwed over, regardless if you change your wrong advertising claims.

I do not deserve red trust.. i don't know who is rollincoin before this thread..
I'm not scammer, no one has been scammed. all winnings and contests paid!
I have proof but all ignore it.

please clear my red trust


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 12, 2017, 08:10:27 AM
I have to assume this is a troll at this point.  Is there a way to contact the admins to have his threads (he has like 5 of them in G&R) deleted since he has circumstantial evidence of being a historic thief and has literally admitted to stealing from a user currently?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 12, 2017, 08:27:57 AM
I have to assume this is a troll at this point.  Is there a way to contact the admins to have his threads (he has like 5 of them in G&R) deleted since he has circumstantial evidence of being a historic thief and has literally admitted to stealing from a user currently?

troll? I think you are troll..

We paid all winnings and contests and have proof!
I'm not scammer!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Avirunes on January 14, 2017, 08:51:18 AM
I got this link (https://satoshibox.com/8nfrvvnvypt2qpjpvetvwb7w) (archive) (https://archive.is/xWQoB) via PM which is the satoshibox link for the supposed script.

-snip-


Just to get some more info. about the link of satoshibox , I emailed their support asking about the upload date of above file ^^^. Not only they gave me the upload date of the file link but also they considered it as a good suggestion which they will be soon adding it on their site (about upload date against the file to be mentioned on the page) . :)

So here is the email I got yesterday from their support.

https://i.imgur.com/ZbaO46g.jpg

and here is the email id of satoshibox.

https://i.imgur.com/IsczJwQ.jpg

It was really a great help @SatoshiBox.



Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 14, 2017, 09:32:41 PM
I got this link (https://satoshibox.com/8nfrvvnvypt2qpjpvetvwb7w) (archive) (https://archive.is/xWQoB) via PM which is the satoshibox link for the supposed script.

-snip-


Just to get some more info. about the link of satoshibox , I emailed their support asking about the upload date of above file ^^^. Not only they gave me the upload date of the file link but also they considered it as a good suggestion which they will be soon adding it on their site (about upload date against the file to be mentioned on the page) . :)

So here is the email I got yesterday from their support.

https://i.imgur.com/ZbaO46g.jpg

and here is the email id of satoshibox.
https://i.imgur.com/IsczJwQ.jpg

It was really a great help @SatoshiBox.



If this is true, which I have no reason to believe that it isn't, than it pretty much proves that RollinCoin = crazybtrade. Nice try trying to get someone to give you 0.9BTC, but did you honestly expect it to work?

Here's the part you (crazybtrade) saying something like SatoshiBox is lying! You have no proof! Here is my proof: <insert link to unrelated stuff>. Just give it up, please.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: NLNico on January 15, 2017, 04:02:01 AM
Lol, nice one Avirunes.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on January 15, 2017, 04:34:42 AM
#busted.

Way to go the extra mile.
What should prove the obvious, crazybtrade is full of shit and everything they said in this thread so far was either wrong due to a lack of knowledge or an outright lie.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 15, 2017, 07:35:34 AM
I got this link (https://satoshibox.com/8nfrvvnvypt2qpjpvetvwb7w) (archive) (https://archive.is/xWQoB) via PM which is the satoshibox link for the supposed script.

-snip-


Just to get some more info. about the link of satoshibox , I emailed their support asking about the upload date of above file ^^^. Not only they gave me the upload date of the file link but also they considered it as a good suggestion which they will be soon adding it on their site (about upload date against the file to be mentioned on the page) . :)

So here is the email I got yesterday from their support.

and here is the email id of satoshibox.


It was really a great help @SatoshiBox.



Really?
It's fake screenshot! satoshibox can't provide upload date, because this service is anonymous.
you are fail! :)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 15, 2017, 07:38:23 AM
#busted.

Way to go the extra mile.
What should prove the obvious, crazybtrade is full of shit and everything they said in this thread so far was either wrong due to a lack of knowledge or an outright lie.

don't worry about fake screenshot by Avirunes.
This is not proove, this is shit.
Our game is fair and have good reputation.
Thanks!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 19, 2017, 03:13:40 AM

What do you think he's been doing? First RollinCoin, than FastBitRoulette and now crazybtrade

You know, that got me thinking...has anyone looked at the connection between the three of them? 

Let's do it!

Here are the their posting frequency logs:

https://i.imgur.com/Tb9wIEv.jpg

Notice anything...familiar?  Looks like all of them post frequently between hours 6-9 and 15-18.  And none of them have ever posted between the hours of 21-0.  Ever!  This is pretty unusual/unique as most people have fairly even distributions of posting times that slowly taper off towards when they usually sleep.

Hmmmmmm...well what about when they registered on the site?

https://i.imgur.com/UeRn0qd.jpg

So Rollin stopped posting on May 16, and then 5 days later FastBit made an account.  FastBit stopped posting on July 28th but CrazyB didn't make his account until Oct 30, though.  Damn, guess this is a dead end.

Unless....

Wait, when did he register the website?

https://i.imgur.com/mMZI7Va.jpg

...oh.  A week after FastBit stopped posting. 

Guess it took a few months to get the scam up and running.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: jackg on January 21, 2017, 05:29:39 PM

What do you think he's been doing? First RollinCoin, than FastBitRoulette and now crazybtrade

You know, that got me thinking...has anyone looked at the connection between the three of them?  

Let's do it!

Here are the their posting frequency logs:

https://i.imgur.com/Tb9wIEv.jpg

Notice anything...familiar?  Looks like all of them post frequently between hours 6-9 and 15-18.  And none of them have ever posted between the hours of 21-0.  Ever!  This is pretty unusual/unique as most people have fairly even distributions of posting times that slowly taper off towards when they usually sleep.

Hmmmmmm...well what about when they registered on the site?

https://i.imgur.com/UeRn0qd.jpg

So Rollin stopped posting on May 16, and then 5 days later FastBit made an account.  FastBit stopped posting on July 28th but CrazyB didn't make his account until Oct 30, though.  Damn, guess this is a dead end.

Unless....

Wait, when did he register the website?

https://i.imgur.com/mMZI7Va.jpg

...oh.  A week after FastBit stopped posting.  

Guess it took a few months to get the scam up and running.


It looked like a dead end in some ways with that evidence. Alhough maybe he wanted some time before continuing in his attempts. Maybe a vacationi with th emoney he previously had?

The relationship of the timezones and the posting history is quite unusual but not completely accurate evidence (although 6-9 does seem a weird ime for them to post more regularly).


EDIT: so I decided to look at two more trusted users here stunna (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292;sa=statPanel) from primedice (http://primedice.com) and lightlord (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30541;sa=statPanel) and they have only posted in the main sections of this forum and post at random times of the day (in comparison to crazyb who picks speciic time to post - not sure if this information is useful or not?)


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 23, 2017, 02:13:52 AM

What do you think he's been doing? First RollinCoin, than FastBitRoulette and now crazybtrade

You know, that got me thinking...has anyone looked at the connection between the three of them? 

Let's do it!

Here are the their posting frequency logs:



Notice anything...familiar?  Looks like all of them post frequently between hours 6-9 and 15-18.  And none of them have ever posted between the hours of 21-0.  Ever!  This is pretty unusual/unique as most people have fairly even distributions of posting times that slowly taper off towards when they usually sleep.

Hmmmmmm...well what about when they registered on the site?


So Rollin stopped posting on May 16, and then 5 days later FastBit made an account.  FastBit stopped posting on July 28th but CrazyB didn't make his account until Oct 30, though.  Damn, guess this is a dead end.

Unless....

Wait, when did he register the website?



...oh.  A week after FastBit stopped posting. 

Guess it took a few months to get the scam up and running.


This is not proof, this is shit.
this is only speculation and no more


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 23, 2017, 02:26:14 AM
Ha ha I catch this scammer!

DarkDays = DarkStar_  ;D

I use his method,

https://s27.postimg.org/czks4qrzn/Dark_Days_Scammer.png

https://s23.postimg.org/galh6ftmj/Dark_Star_Scammer.png

similar posting!!!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 23, 2017, 08:06:44 AM
You're proving my point, Vlad.  Regular posters have normalized posting tendencies.  All of your accounts (all of which, again, were used to scam people) have clear identifiers the point towards the same person using all three accounts.

You also can't explain why all of them were opened right after the old one got caught scamming.

Shut it down, scumbag.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 23, 2017, 08:35:38 AM
You're proving my point, Vlad.  Regular posters have normalized posting tendencies.  All of your accounts (all of which, again, were used to scam people) have clear identifiers the point towards the same person using all three accounts.

You also can't explain why all of them were opened right after the old one got caught scamming.

Shut it down, scumbag.

I catch you!!! troll.
you use some alt acc for posting here


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lauda on January 23, 2017, 08:37:52 AM
I catch you!!! troll.
you use some alt acc for posting here
Hunting the people who have participated in exposing you won't do you any favors. Actually, it will make your story even less believable. I highly advise that you reconsidering your approach to DarkDays and other members of this community.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 23, 2017, 09:04:34 AM
I catch you!!! troll.
you use some alt acc for posting here
Hunting the people who have participated in exposing you won't do you any favors. Actually, it will make your story even less believable. I highly advise that you reconsidering your approach to DarkDays and other members of this community.

I mean, it's not even anything, it's just blind trolling to try to get the heat off of his literally illegal activities.

Seriously, since it's been proven that he's the same person as rollin, and since he's admitted to stealing 10 deposits from a user, can you ban him/his site from the forum?  It's the ethical, moral, and legal thing to do.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lauda on January 23, 2017, 09:09:12 AM
I mean, it's not even anything, it's just blind trolling to try to get the heat off of his literally illegal activities.
This seems to be a standard tactic among the shady people around here. I wouldn't be surprised if he started attacking individuals with alts as well.

Seriously, since it's been proven that he's the same person as rollin, and since he's admitted to stealing 10 deposits from a user, can you ban him/his site from the forum?  It's the ethical, moral, and legal thing to do.
The current policy is that scams are not moderated. Therefore, unless the user in question has not been breaking the forum rules, they won't be banned by the staff members. I can't ban him anyways (this requires an admin or global moderator with banning privileges).


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 23, 2017, 09:19:20 AM
I mean, it's not even anything, it's just blind trolling to try to get the heat off of his literally illegal activities.
This seems to be a standard tactic among the shady people around here. I wouldn't be surprised if he started attacking individuals with alts as well.

Seriously, since it's been proven that he's the same person as rollin, and since he's admitted to stealing 10 deposits from a user, can you ban him/his site from the forum?  It's the ethical, moral, and legal thing to do.
The current policy is that scams are not moderated. Therefore, unless the user in question has not been breaking the forum rules, they won't be banned by the staff members. I can't ban him anyways (this requires an admin or global moderator with banning privileges).

You know, from a libertarian point of view, I like that stance.  If someone is dumb enough to send money to a person whose admitted to stealing money it is their fault.  I just loathe thieves and hate it when they "get away" with their crimes.

Sorry if it seemed like I was laying the responsibility on you, I saw "staff" and wasn't sure what the hierarchy was.  Thanks for the info!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 23, 2017, 09:49:10 AM
I mean, it's not even anything, it's just blind trolling to try to get the heat off of his literally illegal activities.
This seems to be a standard tactic among the shady people around here. I wouldn't be surprised if he started attacking individuals with alts as well.

Seriously, since it's been proven that he's the same person as rollin, and since he's admitted to stealing 10 deposits from a user, can you ban him/his site from the forum?  It's the ethical, moral, and legal thing to do.
The current policy is that scams are not moderated. Therefore, unless the user in question has not been breaking the forum rules, they won't be banned by the staff members. I can't ban him anyways (this requires an admin or global moderator with banning privileges).

I not make bad things..
and post only proof.
but thay give me red trust and troll my thread.
why?

Lauda could you buy my gambling site?
I'm not scammer and need help now.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 23, 2017, 09:51:38 AM
I mean, it's not even anything, it's just blind trolling to try to get the heat off of his literally illegal activities.
This seems to be a standard tactic among the shady people around here. I wouldn't be surprised if he started attacking individuals with alts as well.

Seriously, since it's been proven that he's the same person as rollin, and since he's admitted to stealing 10 deposits from a user, can you ban him/his site from the forum?  It's the ethical, moral, and legal thing to do.
The current policy is that scams are not moderated. Therefore, unless the user in question has not been breaking the forum rules, they won't be banned by the staff members. I can't ban him anyways (this requires an admin or global moderator with banning privileges).

You know, from a libertarian point of view, I like that stance.  If someone is dumb enough to send money to a person whose admitted to stealing money it is their fault.  I just loathe thieves and hate it when they "get away" with their crimes.

Sorry if it seemed like I was laying the responsibility on you, I saw "staff" and wasn't sure what the hierarchy was.  Thanks for the info!

he is double-spender. He is cheater

proof:
His words (PuraPuraBego) :
"Just patient for block
Although this double spend, fund will be filled back to my account "

https://s27.postimg.org/njstnt1qr/faketx.png


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lauda on January 23, 2017, 09:53:17 AM
You know, from a libertarian point of view, I like that stance.  If someone is dumb enough to send money to a person whose admitted to stealing money it is their fault.  I just loathe thieves and hate it when they "get away" with their crimes.
It depends on people's stances indeed. I myself, do not like the overly liberal stance and am a strong believer that it is hurting newcomers and Bitcoin in general.

Sorry if it seemed like I was laying the responsibility on you, I saw "staff" and wasn't sure what the hierarchy was.  Thanks for the info!
No worries; everything is fine. If you want a better explanation on the hierarchy, then PM me.

I not make bad things..
and post only proof.
but thay give me red trust and troll my thread.
why?
You are RollinCoin, who is a proven scammer. Denying it is too late at this point.

Lauda could you buy my gambling site?
I'm not scammer and need help now.
I don't want your website, not even for 0.01 USD.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Lutpin on January 23, 2017, 09:53:46 AM
I not make bad things..and post only proof.
but thay give me red trust and troll my thread.
Your "proof" has been confirmed to be wrong, hence it's worthless.
The facts provided by the other side however are holding up.
Anyway, discussing with you has never led anywhere, so why the heck am I even trying?

Lauda could you buy my gambling site? I'm not scammer and need help now.
Wow, that's desperate.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: DarkDays on January 27, 2017, 10:49:10 PM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money. 

STAY AWAY!


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 28, 2017, 11:02:13 AM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money. 

STAY AWAY!

Tonto is wrong!

He got all winnings and know this.
I have proof!
Do you want i will post tx of paid winnings?

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d
paid to you 0.0296 BTC


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Avirunes on January 28, 2017, 11:45:11 AM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money.  

STAY AWAY!

Tonto is wrong!

He got all winnings and know this.
I have proof!
Do you want i will post tx of paid winnings?

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d
paid to you 0.0296 BTC

First let me archive your post: http://archive.is/KeB9W#selection-3145.0-3145.91

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d has timestamp: 2016-11-24 00:43:05 and tonto is asking about bets dated 2017-01-27 and not the bets that were being made 3 months ago (approx.)

Your life is really full of lies. Wonder how many lies are still pending in this thread.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 28, 2017, 05:39:32 PM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money.  

STAY AWAY!

Tonto is wrong!

He got all winnings and know this.
I have proof!
Do you want i will post tx of paid winnings?

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d
paid to you 0.0296 BTC

First let me archive your post: http://archive.is/KeB9W#selection-3145.0-3145.91

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d has timestamp: 2016-11-24 00:43:05 and tonto is asking about bets dated 2017-01-27 and not the bets that were being made 3 months ago (approx.)

Your life is really full of lies. Wonder how many lies are still pending in this thread.

are you stupid??
see message https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17646564#msg17646564
Quote from: crazybtrade on November 23, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
tonto said it now..
and see date of his bets .. 3 moths ago

2017-01-27 made bets is all lose.


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: jackg on January 29, 2017, 01:48:06 AM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money.  

STAY AWAY!

Tonto is wrong!

He got all winnings and know this.
I have proof!
Do you want i will post tx of paid winnings?

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d
paid to you 0.0296 BTC

First let me archive your post: http://archive.is/KeB9W#selection-3145.0-3145.91

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d has timestamp: 2016-11-24 00:43:05 and tonto is asking about bets dated 2017-01-27 and not the bets that were being made 3 months ago (approx.)

Your life is really full of lies. Wonder how many lies are still pending in this thread.

are you stupid??
see message https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17646564#msg17646564
Quote from: crazybtrade on November 23, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
tonto said it now..
and see date of his bets .. 3 moths ago

2017-01-27 made bets is all lose.


@crazyb, the link you messaged is linked to my post and not yours (just an fyi - not sure if that was the inteintion or not).

It is strange that:
1. Tonto said the bets were 3 months ago and is only suggestin gthem now.
2. No bets won today? Unless there was a short amount of bets then it'd be unlinkely no one wins isn't it?


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 29, 2017, 04:54:02 AM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money.  

STAY AWAY!

Tonto is wrong!

He got all winnings and know this.
I have proof!
Do you want i will post tx of paid winnings?

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d
paid to you 0.0296 BTC

First let me archive your post: http://archive.is/KeB9W#selection-3145.0-3145.91

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d has timestamp: 2016-11-24 00:43:05 and tonto is asking about bets dated 2017-01-27 and not the bets that were being made 3 months ago (approx.)

Your life is really full of lies. Wonder how many lies are still pending in this thread.

are you stupid??
see message https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17646564#msg17646564
Quote from: crazybtrade on November 23, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
tonto said it now..
and see date of his bets .. 3 moths ago

2017-01-27 made bets is all lose.


@crazyb, the link you messaged is linked to my post and not yours (just an fyi - not sure if that was the inteintion or not).

It is strange that:
1. Tonto said the bets were 3 months ago and is only suggestin gthem now.
2. No bets won today? Unless there was a short amount of bets then it'd be unlinkely no one wins isn't it?

Yes, no bets won today. He is unlucky only and post about scam..
Don't worry all winnings paid!
You can check it, friend, i'm not scammer 100%


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: crazybtrade on January 29, 2017, 04:56:38 AM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money.  

STAY AWAY!

Tonto is wrong!

He got all winnings and know this.
I have proof!
Do you want i will post tx of paid winnings?

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d
paid to you 0.0296 BTC

First let me archive your post: http://archive.is/KeB9W#selection-3145.0-3145.91

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d has timestamp: 2016-11-24 00:43:05 and tonto is asking about bets dated 2017-01-27 and not the bets that were being made 3 months ago (approx.)

Your life is really full of lies. Wonder how many lies are still pending in this thread.

are you stupid??
see message https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17646564#msg17646564
Quote from: crazybtrade on November 23, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
tonto said it now..
and see date of his bets .. 3 moths ago

2017-01-27 made bets is all lose.


@crazyb, the link you messaged is linked to my post and not yours (just an fyi - not sure if that was the inteintion or not).

It is strange that:
1. Tonto said the bets were 3 months ago and is only suggestin gthem now.
2. No bets won today? Unless there was a short amount of bets then it'd be unlinkely no one wins isn't it?
I post a photos on the past, for consideration why these happens. (Following you have asking me to deleting of photos), This will be a giant jigsaw, if this is just a problem on your system, why do you ask me to delete the photo?
And i see you've totally able to edit board live, then you have not paying my last bets round.

Sorry, you want catch that my site is scam but your all bets is lose.. And want refund it.. Sorry i bad case for you.
You can win more again!
Place bets and win.
Good luck


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: jackg on January 29, 2017, 01:30:44 PM
I Just got scammed !
Proof :  Didn't paying my bets, although I did mistake, In fact he didn't paying my last bets. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639180#msg17639180) and another one  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17639807#msg17639807)

I'm sorry you got scammed but what did you expect?  You have like 10 people on multiple threads talking about how he's an admitted scammer, he's got deep red trust.  At a certain point, it's on you.

To everyone: this is the end game.  This guy is now just stealing everyone's money.  

STAY AWAY!

Tonto is wrong!

He got all winnings and know this.
I have proof!
Do you want i will post tx of paid winnings?

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d
paid to you 0.0296 BTC

First let me archive your post: http://archive.is/KeB9W#selection-3145.0-3145.91

https://blockchain.info/tx/dc6b55dee179de5c5bffb036f0ba955ff8e4ecf95546602f23e5aa7ec8ddef3d has timestamp: 2016-11-24 00:43:05 and tonto is asking about bets dated 2017-01-27 and not the bets that were being made 3 months ago (approx.)

Your life is really full of lies. Wonder how many lies are still pending in this thread.

are you stupid??
see message https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg17646564#msg17646564
Quote from: crazybtrade on November 23, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
tonto said it now..
and see date of his bets .. 3 moths ago

2017-01-27 made bets is all lose.


@crazyb, the link you messaged is linked to my post and not yours (just an fyi - not sure if that was the inteintion or not).

It is strange that:
1. Tonto said the bets were 3 months ago and is only suggestin gthem now.
2. No bets won today? Unless there was a short amount of bets then it'd be unlinkely no one wins isn't it?
I post a photos on the past, for consideration why these happens. (Following you have asking me to deleting of photos), This will be a giant jigsaw, if this is just a problem on your system, why do you ask me to delete the photo?
And i see you've totally able to edit board live, then you have not paying my last bets round.

Sorry, you want catch that my site is scam but your all bets is lose.. And want refund it.. Sorry i bad case for you.
You can win more again!
Place bets and win.
Good luck
Jesus, I'm tired of explaining to this person HOW IF SOME ONE HAVE SPEND MONEY FROM UNCONFIRM TRANSACTION !
I'm didn't want catch to you scam, There's no sense for me. But what you say, I was caught you http://archive.is/xWjxq#selection-515.0-565.64

It would be remotely reasonable to request someone to remove the images if they think it will stop other people from betting. Though people can check the site now and see if it is paying or not (and use your own conscience as well, if you have to euestion the legitimacy of the site, tread with caution).




Also, the post crazyb linked to was actually a post with the screenshots in it:
[FOR REFERENCE]
Sorry, you don't read rules..
Don't accept coinbase and xapo wallet..
Why i need pay if you send from coinbase?
We not accept this wallet and script work wrong..
You can get winnings and refund bet.
Thanks for your post!

What you want make this it?
Use normal wallet and get winnings.
I'm have be careful read rules! I was told to you, Is my bad.  Your said it means for Coinbase / xapo / market (changer site) If win games win, system will be auto pay to address has spend bets.  Right?
So what's happens with last round? You didn't paying, I'M SURE 100% Your system didn't where's money spended.
So how about this one?
http://oi68.tinypic.com/a9mqz4.jpg

Hello,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg16966801#msg16966801

could you remove image?

Thanks


Maybe don't fund the scam once you know it is a scam...
At least we can finally be sure that it is definitely now a scam and can move on. (Luckily you probably haven't lost too mcuh to this)?

Also, if that was the image they wanted you to remove, they have no reason to want that if it's a legitimate system (quoted post for reference).


Last winning 0.001386BTC paid!

https://blockchain.info/tx/8eb618d542679256af2970fd7b043da551f73dbe73f7fcc3933f233c079527e6

Join and WIN!


Though it's weird he's still paying...

[for reference this is it]
Sorry, you don't read rules..
Don't accept coinbase and xapo wallet..
Why i need pay if you send from coinbase?
We not accept this wallet and script work wrong..
You can get winnings and refund bet.
Thanks for your post!

What you want make this it?
Use normal wallet and get winnings.
I'm have be careful read rules! I was told to you, Is my bad.  Your said it means for Coinbase / xapo / market (changer site) If win games win, system will be auto pay to address has spend bets.  Right?
So what's happens with last round? You didn't paying, I'M SURE 100% Your system didn't where's money spended.
So how about this one?
http://oi68.tinypic.com/a9mqz4.jpg

Hello,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666167.msg16966801#msg16966801

could you remove image?

Thanks


Maybe don't fund the scam once you know it is a scam...
At least we can finally be sure that it is definitely now a scam and can move on. (Luckily you probably haven't lost too mcuh to this)?

Also, if that was the image they wanted you to remove, they have no reason to want that if it's a legitimate system (quoted post for reference).


Last winning 0.001386BTC paid!

https://blockchain.info/tx/8eb618d542679256af2970fd7b043da551f73dbe73f7fcc3933f233c079527e6

Join and WIN!


Though it's weird he's still paying...
[/for reference]


Title: Re: The RollinCoin scammer is back (again) as crazybtrade
Post by: Roboabhishek on March 26, 2017, 01:43:30 PM
Lol?

No, I am saying many times now that you cannot use timestamp in a provably fair calculation. What has that to do with BTCC? Did you read my message here or just ignored it?




In addition, I am sure that BTC/CNY price is just as well unreliable and unverifiable because there is no clear public history of 1 specific price per timestamp - this has nothing to with the reputation of BTCC. But I am not even talking about that here.

I warned you guys in the start that he might scam but i doubt someone heard me.
I also had some chit chat with him in my PM regarding the -ve feedback by which i had removed but i stated a warning of being scammed.
Anyways nothing can be done to the lost btcs but beware in future.