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Title: [Now Open] $1220 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 01:53:34 AM
Orders are back!
Now accepting Bitcoins and Litecoins! 10 Bitcoins or 450 Litecoins gets you a shiny, pretty >1.1MH/s Miner, shipped anywhere in the Continental United States!

Now lower power! Units now run around 500 Watts at full throttle, which is a bit over 1.1MH/s!

Question for y'all: Would you be interested in a 4U rackmount solution as well?

http://www.vorksholkms.com/

http://www.theopeneffect.com/VMS/logosmall.png

Take the stress, work, and time out of Litecoin mining!
-Prebuilt machine works out-of-the-box
-No messing with thread-concurrencies, different mining programs, and shader/memory clocks
-Use our simple interface
-Components carefully chosen to work and mine well together
-Friendly Windows environment
-Hardware pre-stress-tested, don't worry about infancy failures!
 


Note: units are loud, as fans are spinning very fast! Keep this in mind while buying. You will want an area to run the unit where people aren't trying to work or sleep. :)

https://i.imgur.com/mZrmqsE.jpg

Introduction Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogkTRwn9IgM)


Vorksholk's Mining Solutions aims to make your entry into litecoin mining as easy as possible.
>You buy a unit
>Your unit is assembled and tested
>Your unit arrives at your door
>You unpack your miner, plug in a mouse+keyboard, plus a monitor (not included), and boot up the machine
>Setup program will automatically launch, and guide you through everything you need to do  
>Your miner is running at over 1.1MH/s (assuming reasonable ambient temperature), to the pool of your choice

How easy is that?

We have just started, and therefore are taking orders on this forum thread. The price will be $1200 plus shipping to your location. As well, additional configuration options are available, some at an increased cost.

Miner specs:
$1200 + shipping:

-2x7950
-4GB DDR3 RAM
-AMD Sempron 145
-Motherboard with 2 or more PCIe Ports
-750W PSU
-250GB Magnetic
-Windows 7
-Ethernet (Wifi: Extra $23)

"Make it Game" option: $400-$600 addon price
---
$400 Gaming package:
Intel i5-3570k Processor
120GB SSD or 2TB Magnetic (Your choice)

$600 Gaming package:
Intel i7-3770K Processor
240GB SSD
---

7950s come CrossFire'd together (unless you specifically refuse this)
Free installs of the games that come with your GPUs, if any (currently, you would get a copy of Crysis 3, and a copy of Bioshock Infinite already on the machine, as well as an extra copy of both games to give to a friend).
The Make It Game option not only makes this system usable for two purposes to you (mine and game), it increases the resale value of the machine.

Approximate Shipping Time:
Since I do not know if there will be demand for this service, for the start of the service your hardware will be ordered when you purchase. Between shipping time from our supplier(s) to us and our 3-day testing program, your miner will likely ship around 8-10 days (weekends included) from the date of purchase. If you would like to forgo the 3-day testing period, you would receive your product much faster at a nominal fee.

3-day Testing Period:
During this testing period, your device runs for 3 days straight for two reasons:
1.) subsidize the cost of production
2.) test your hardware to protect against infancy failure
For an additional $10, we can point the miners at a worker of yours (on a pool of your choice) for 3 days. As well, for $10 you can bypass the testing period (although we still insist on a 24-hour), and get your product much quicker!

Warranty:
We don't provide any warranty ourselves on the machines we sell, however many of the components come with manufacturer warranties. You will need to open the box to send items back. We will guarantee that when the product leaves us, it works great.

What's in the box?
Upon receiving your miner, the box will contain three items.
>Computer/Miner
>OEM Reinstall DVD
>Instruction Pamphlet

How do I order?
Currently, we are doing this on an unsure basis, so we are selling products through the forums. To put in an order, just put a reply on this thread or PM me. If you want special configuration options, we can work that out on a case-by-case basis. If you would like to know how much shipping would cost, it would be coming from the southern United States. Contact us for a guaranteed shipping price!

If this business grows, we will make ebay listings. If it grows further, we will make a website with probably WHMCS or something similar.

FAQ:
1.) Who is this geared towards?
This product is geared towards two distinct sets of people: those new to mining who don't want to mess with building their own system and finding perfect settings, and those who don't want to be bothered with it and want quick deployment.

2.) Why are you doing this?
I (often referred to as "we" as this is a business) see this as a two-fold advantage: increasing network mining power while making money. We make a small amount of money on the actual unit, as well as some extra subsidy through our 3-day tests. Done in an efficient manner, the per-hour pay would be good.

3.) Do you support purchase in cryptocurrencies?
We currently do not support purchase in crypto currencies as with recent fluctuations time from purchase to conversion to USD (we have to buy parts in USD, unless bitcoinstore.com starts carrying all of the items we need) might fall short. However, we do plan to implement a system in the future for this payment option.

4.) What miner program does the miner come setup with?
It comes setup with out own custom configuration creator (which guides you through pools, pool information, etc.), and runs cgminer at its core.

5.) Can I order a system with three GPUs?
Due to concerns running three cards in one case (heat dissipation, spacing), we do not currently sell three GPU systems. However, this is not out of the question for the future.

6.) Can I order a system with one GPU?
Certainly! However, it is much less economical for you. Our standard miner with 2 GPUs gives 1.1MH/s for $1200, a 1-GPU system would run at ~550kH/s and would cost $800.

7.) Do custom orders take longer?
During the start of this program all configurations will have the hardware for them purchased when a user pays us, so all unit configurations (unless you need a special item that is out of stock with our suppliers) will take around the same amount of time. If demand increases to the point where we pre-buy hardware and your machine is already well into the 3-day testing period by the time you purchase it, regular orders will be filled much faster than Gaming upgrades or custom parts (AMD CPUs, extra RAM, etc.)

8.) Can this mine other Alt Currencies?
The mining program the computer ships with supports all Scrypt currencies: Currently Novacoin and Litecoin. The unit also supports mining SHA256-based currencies (Bitcoin, PPCoin, Terracoin, etc.)  but you will have to download and set up your own miner for those. :)

9.) What kind of support does the miner come with?
We will offer PM-based and e-mail-based support to help you get your miner setup, but do not provide help in doing anything but setting up the miner to mine litecoins.

10.) What factors will affect the speed of this machine?
Temperature. Cases get kinda hot.  

11.) Are there discounts for bulk orders?
Since we operate on fairly low margins there isn't all that much room for discounts. However, on bulk orders (more than two machines), you will get $25 off each miner.

12.) How much bandwidth does one of these miners use?
Actually, miners are very low bandwidth. On a standard consumer DSL line a few of these units would have no problem running!

13.) Can I get an alternate OS?
If you want Windows 7, just specify when you place an order, they are the same price. :)

We are not going to support linux at this time, as many people are having trouble getting appropriate hash rates on Linux for Scrypt Mining.

14.) Can I send you guys my Windows license and have you install that?
Due to our use of pre-configured images, we do not plan to support individuals using their own licenses.  

15.) Can I have an x with two y's and a z?
We are more than happy to meet your needs with flexible systems, from NVidia setups (just gaming) to larger capacity SSDs to built-in Blu-Ray players to shipping with gaming peripherals, we can make a custom system for you. Just ask, and we'll give you a quote.

16.) What payment system do you use?
Currently we will be using PayPal (I know, I know...) as our suppliers accept PayPal, and its the way for us to provide products at the cheapest prices possible.

17.) How much would it cost me to build an identical system myself?
To build an equivalent system on Newegg would cost you right around $1120. We feel our pricing is very reasonable.

18.) Can I resell these machines?
Yes, the Windows license is OEM for system builders, so you are free to resell the unit at a later point in time if you so choose. If you are considering this, you may want to take a look at the gaming upgrades, they would make the system much more tantalizing to potential buyers if it can game.

19.) What stops someone from buying a machine from you, then posting your program online for other people to use without purchase of your product?
We vehemently stand against using any kind of DRM. The custom program is a very specific program targeted at 2x7950 setups with specs exactly as we set up. We have no problem at all with people digging through our source code and redistributing. In fact, once units start shipping we will likely post a download link to the program for people who reinstall their OSes. The main work we put in (aside from the actual physical build) is fine-tuning the cards, which this software does NOT do. We simply find the optimal values, then set our miner to use those on that machine specifically. Your miner will come with a little card on which is printed the optimal values we found your hardware to run at, in case you ever need to reconfigure our software (if you reinstall the OS, etc.)

20.) What stops someone from buying a unit from you, seeing the exact hardware you use, and selling identical systems?
There is nothing we can do to stop this, and we wouldn't care if someone decided to do it anyhow. A lot of the work is in getting good optimized settings on a per-card or per-rig basis, and commercial competition is never a bad thing! If someone tried to undercut us they would either have to take ridiculously small margins or use lower-grade hardware, which we refuse to do.

21.) What games could the rig play if upgraded with your $400 gaming package?
With the gaming packages, the rig would be capable of playing most any game on the market at max or near-max graphics.
It has two 7950s working in unison, with a great gaming CPU, gaming-quality RAM, a great motherboard, and a SSD (if you choose that route) for great loading speeds. Don't try to play while mining however, it won't be too fun!

22.) Why should I trust you?
I'm a well-established forum member, and have done software development in the past for mining programs (check out EasyLTC, cgEasy, and AutoSolo). If you don't trust me, just don't order :)

23.) How many orders are you accepting at a time?  
Since we are just starting, we are going to limit the program to three units. Once we build these three units, ensure that our price point works, that our shipping is not flawed, and that our machines can rank up to the guaranteed rates, we will open up to many more orders. Orders will be filled on a first-come--first-serve basis, except for special orders which will be pushed behind while waiting for product arrival, then will get priority through the building process.

24.) Do you offer hosting of purchased machines?
I do not currently offer hosting/colocating. If I ever do, colocation will offer 1-6 GPUs per system, and will be an initial price to buy the hardware, plus a monthly price to host the hardware. Colocation of hardware will be a bit pricey to pay for electricity. If there is significant demand, I will consider renting out datacenter space in my neighborhood datacenter, and colocating hardware there. If you are interested in this, please feel free to shoot a PM my way. :)

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask them below or PM them to me!      

Screenshots of included setup program:
http://www.vorksholkms.com/pics/prog1.png


http://www.vorksholkms.com/pics/prog2.png


http://www.vorksholkms.com/pics/prog3.png


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: crazyearner on April 13, 2013, 02:04:10 AM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Mrkeety on April 13, 2013, 02:05:21 AM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)

A 7950 does not cost 180..


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 02:21:02 AM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)

Basically, it's for people who don't want to deal with all the learning curve involved with Litecoin mining, and just want to get in on the action. For someone coming into mining, this unit provides an affordable way to get into the scene without the excessive learning curve of finding shaders, thread concurrencies, optimal overclock settings and ratios, not to mention the learning curve associated with trying to price parts and assemble a machine. We provide an all-in-one solution for a small premium. :) As to the pricing, I think it's pretty fair:

RAM: $70
Motherboard: $130
2x7950: ~$620-640
SSD/HD: $50
Optical Drive: $25
850W PSU: $169
Mouse and Keybord: $15-$16 total
Processor: $49
Windows 8 OEM: $100
Wifi card: $25
Case: $100

Of course if you wanted to make your own solution you could get a better price with a mobo with 6xGPU support, two together-linked 1500W PSUs, etc. But for a modular design (all-in-one, little to no assembly, etc.), it would be hard to beat this price point.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: elvisrene on April 13, 2013, 02:48:15 AM
nice offer do you have any pics of the cases


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: meebs on April 13, 2013, 03:12:26 AM
PLease post a pic of the case.

it takes a LOT to keep a 2x7950 in a concealed case cool.

my "desktop" with 2x7950's is in a corsair 400r with  2x 140mm fans on top, 2x120 in front, 2x 120 on the side and 1x120 in the back, and it STILL runs hotter than my open air setups.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Herbalconfusion on April 13, 2013, 03:22:55 AM
escrow?


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: crazyearner on April 13, 2013, 03:32:16 AM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)

A 7950 does not cost 180..

buying 2nd hand but new yes would cost around what OP  said but still Ill go with something else.......

Thx for providing such an offer tho


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 04:28:50 AM
nice offer do you have any pics of the cases

PLease post a pic of the case.

it takes a LOT to keep a 2x7950 in a concealed case cool.

my "desktop" with 2x7950's is in a corsair 400r with  2x 140mm fans on top, 2x120 in front, 2x 120 on the side and 1x120 in the back, and it STILL runs hotter than my open air setups.

I chose a case that allows extremely easy (two thumb screw) removal of the top side panel, so if the machine is used as a dedicated miner it can be run more efficiently:

http://theopeneffect.com/VMS/screws.png

I will put this info in the thread starter too :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 04:56:47 AM
escrow?

Unfortunately during the early stages of this escrow would probably not be possible, as I need to buy the parts with the money from the purchases, so having the money come after I've tested and shipped the unit wouldn't hold well. Sorry :\

Keep in mind though that PayPal does protect buyers quite well, and therefore if I end up not shipping a product to you you could file a claim with them, and if I can't provide evidence of a shipping label, packaging, etc. then the money would be returned to your account. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 01:44:40 PM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)

A 7950 does not cost 180..

buying 2nd hand but new yes would cost around what OP  said but still Ill go with something else.......

Thx for providing such an offer tho

Yeah, 2nd hand parts would certainly make the build cheaper, the only problem is the lifetime of the rig would likely take a hit.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Herbalconfusion on April 13, 2013, 03:20:05 PM
I am very interested. I just cant afford to send out 1400$ without any security other than the amount of posts you have on the forum (repuatation). Frankly i believe you are legitimate and only trying to further the currency. For this i commend you! I'll be watching with an interested eye :p


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: grue on April 13, 2013, 03:30:33 PM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)

Basically, it's for people who don't want to deal with all the learning curve involved with Litecoin mining, and just want to get in on the action. For someone coming into mining, this unit provides an affordable way to get into the scene without the excessive learning curve of finding shaders, thread concurrencies, optimal overclock settings and ratios, not to mention the learning curve associated with trying to price parts and assemble a machine. We provide an all-in-one solution for a small premium. :) As to the pricing, I think it's pretty fair:

RAM: $70 - you can easily find 8 GB of ram for less than $60 1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100007611%20600006069&IsNodeId=1&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29231%2C524%3A29248%2C524%3A35212%2C524%3A30325%2C524%3A29371&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20) 2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100007611%20600006074&IsNodeId=1&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29231%2C524%3A29248%2C524%3A35212%2C524%3A30325%2C524%3A29371&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20)
Motherboard: $130 - why do you need such an expensive motheboard? a cheap motheboard with enough pcie x1 slots will easily suffice
2x7950: ~$620-640 - oh really? I can get 7950s for $270 ea after rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&Description=7950&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20), not to mention the free games that comes with it (which you can resell)
SSD/HD: $50 - just run the OS off a 16 GB USB drive
Optical Drive: $25 - why would you need this?
850W PSU: $169 - 950W 80+ PSU for $130 after rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703028)
Mouse and Keybord: $15-$16 total - you can easily reuse kb/m from another computer
Processor: $49 - you can get a cheaper amd processor for less than $40
Windows 8 OEM: $100 - use linux, or thepiratebay
Wifi card: $25 - wtf???
Case: $100 - $10 plastic box has better airflow
your design choices are questionable at best. not to mention the ROI for this machine is well over 5 months assuming no difficulty rise.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 03:33:47 PM
I am very interested. I just cant afford to send out 1400$ without any security other than the amount of posts you have on the forum (repuatation). Frankly i believe you are legitimate and only trying to further the currency. For this i commend you! I'll be watching with an interested eye :p

No problem, it's hard to send $1400 without any security, sadly escrow just isn't an option at this point :/ Thanks for the interest!


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)

Basically, it's for people who don't want to deal with all the learning curve involved with Litecoin mining, and just want to get in on the action. For someone coming into mining, this unit provides an affordable way to get into the scene without the excessive learning curve of finding shaders, thread concurrencies, optimal overclock settings and ratios, not to mention the learning curve associated with trying to price parts and assemble a machine. We provide an all-in-one solution for a small premium. :) As to the pricing, I think it's pretty fair:

RAM: $70 - you can easily find 8 GB of ram for less than $60 1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100007611%20600006069&IsNodeId=1&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29231%2C524%3A29248%2C524%3A35212%2C524%3A30325%2C524%3A29371&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20) 2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100007611%20600006074&IsNodeId=1&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29231%2C524%3A29248%2C524%3A35212%2C524%3A30325%2C524%3A29371&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20)
Motherboard: $130 - why do you need such an expensive motheboard? a cheap motheboard with enough pcie x1 slots will easily suffice
2x7950: ~$620-640 - oh really? I can get 7950s for $270 ea after rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&Description=7950&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20), not to mention the free games that comes with it (which you can resell)
SSD/HD: $50 - just run the OS off a 16 GB USB drive
Optical Drive: $25 - why would you need this?
850W PSU: $169 - 950W 80+ PSU for $130 after rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703028)
Mouse and Keybord: $15-$16 total - you can easily reuse kb/m from another computer
Processor: $49 - you can get a cheaper amd processor for less than $40
Windows 8 OEM: $100 - use linux, or thepiratebay
Wifi card: $25 - wtf???
Case: $100 - $10 plastic box has better airflow

Alright: Yes, you can find RAM a bit cheaper, the motherboard I've found offers no bottlenecks while Litecoin mining, is easy to use, and extremely reliable. For the cards, sure you can get them cheaper, but I'd like to mention that only MSi and Sapphire cards seem to perform at their top for Litecoin mining, and come at a bit of a premium. Windows won't fit on a 16GB USB Drive. Optical drive is for people who need to reinstall the system from the OEM disk, but I suppose I could have an option to not include a CD/DVD drive for $25 off. "PC Power and cooling" is an off-brand, I am using 80+ Certified GOLD PSUs from SeaSonic, which are more efficient, and much more reliable, in addition to producing less heat. Yes, Keyboard and mouse could come from another computer, perhaps I'll have an option to take another $15 off and not have keyboard and mouse with the machine. Yes, you can get a cheaper AMD, however heat is still a concern and I would have to go with a motherboard that supports AMD chips. I am not going to sell pirated products, and Litecoin mining on linux is not only extremely hard for first timers (which is what this product is target at), but is also extremely hard to get reasonable hash rates out of. The wifi card is for people who want to hook the miner up via wifi. Most people are probably not running long RJ-45 cables around, but Ethernet is onboard so they can still do that too if they wish. The Case is for the modular design--I don't want customers to have to assemble a product, set up extenders/risers, etc.

Bottom line: As I have stated before, this product is not aimed at people who know how to and have the time to do research into their own components, carefully select every item, manually configure their optimal clock settings for the best hash rate, etc. It is made for people who want to pa some money, and start mining litecoin with ease.

If you were to build the system yourself, you could certainly build the system cheaper. I simply refuse to settle with lower quality products in these machines. System RAM is important for Litecoin mining, I don't want any bottlenecks there. As well, this machine has a quick, fairly high easy resale value, unlike having to package and ship parts separately if you sell off your mining machines built in plastic cases and without licensed software.

As for the ROI:
Yes, ROI will take a while. As difficulty rises, so will price that litecoins can be sold at. 5 month ROI isn't bad in my opinion, imagine doubling your investment in a year. Building, configuring, researching, and optimizing your own system would likely see around a 4 month Return on Investment.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 04:15:07 PM
I added this to the original post as well, but though I'd mention it here.

In an attempt to clear some suspicion out of the way:

The first buyer to get one of these gets $50 off if they agree to post a picture of the machine on this thread once they receive it.



Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 10:39:11 PM
Added introduction video to OP:

Introduction Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogkTRwn9IgM)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Extornia on April 13, 2013, 10:51:49 PM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: 237 on April 13, 2013, 11:54:07 PM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



This sounds more like a resonably price.
I built 2 rigs with 2x7950 each last month for a total of less than 1400 € and they are hashing with over 2.2MH/s
And why this gigantic PSU? Just use a 630W for 45€ and 4 gig RAM. And there are ASRock mainboards with
2 PCIe 16x slots for less than 60€. I really don't get the pricing here

All this sounds like a rip off to me. Sorry


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 13, 2013, 11:59:01 PM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



This sounds more like a resonably price.
I built 2 rigs with 2x7950 each last month for less than 1400 € and they are hashing with over 2.2MH/s
And why this gigantic PSU? Just use a 630W for 45€ and 4 gig RAM. And there are ASRock mainboards with
2 PCIe 16x slots for less than 60€. I really don't get the pricing here

All this sounds like a rip off to me. Sorry

I could do builds with this kind of hardware (aside from a milk box), if people would prefer. Really low-end core parts do significantly decrease versatility of the machine, but for a miner I suppose that's not a problem. I'll look into it.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 14, 2013, 12:15:00 AM
Now using even cheaper components, brought the price down to $1200 + shipping.



Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: 237 on April 14, 2013, 10:24:31 AM
Seems more reasonable now.
Since the system has a proper case, windows intalled and already set
up for mining, it's an OK deal now i guess.

And one should not forget, that there is your worktime invested in it, and that has to be paid too.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 14, 2013, 04:38:32 PM
Seems more reasonable now.
Since the system has a proper case, windows intalled and already set
up for mining, it's an OK deal now i guess.

And one should not forget, that there is your worktime invested in it, and that has to be paid too.


Yeah, I think the lower price point makes these devices a bit more economical, especially for first-time miners. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: tacotime on April 14, 2013, 05:02:35 PM
You will have one hell of a time keeping them cool in a normal case, especially in summer.

I would offer them for sale with a tech bench: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=103_467&products_id=33104

Or with a HAF922: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
and replacing all the 120mm fans and the side 200mm fan with high static pressure R4s: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103061 (search online, you can find them for ~$5 each)
I know from experience that you can fit 6x 120mm fans in a HAF922 and that is cools really well (1x bottom, 2x side, 1x rear, 2x top).  For the fans on the top/bottom you should get fluid bearing or ball bearing fans too, as cheap sleeve bearing fans like R4s tend to fail quickly when placed on their sides: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233035

Yes, it's like $30-50 worth of fans, but it will ensure decent airflow over the GPUs so that you don't have customers calling you and complaining in the summer that their rig is dead because of heat.  My personal experience is that MSI cards have the best aftermarket cooling too, so I wouldn't buy anything but those.  They are still available if you search a lot for them.

Edit: I would also recommend the following PSU instead of the bronze one you chose http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182084
The reason being that this PSU will have >90% efficiency at the est. 450-550w or so you'll be pulling from the PC and also the 7 year warranty and also the price.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: testerx on April 14, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Your 7950 fans are going to end up running full throttle all the time with this kind of case and there's no way they're not going to die early.  I run two gigabyte winforce 3's and even with three fans on the 7950's I have two further 120mm fans blasting away on the side panel, one 120mm fan on the back panel and 4 x 120mm fans mounted to my radiator up top to keep temps down AND even then I have to actively air condition the room the rig is in to prevent overheating.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 14, 2013, 05:24:12 PM
You will have one hell of a time keeping them cool in a normal case, especially in summer.

I would offer them for sale with a tech bench: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=103_467&products_id=33104

Or with a HAF922: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
and replacing all the 120mm fans and the side 200mm fan with high static pressure R4s: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103061 (search online, you can find them for ~$5 each)
I know from experience that you can fit 6x 120mm fans in a HAF922 and that is cools really well (1x bottom, 2x side, 1x rear, 2x top).  For the fans on the top/bottom you should get fluid bearing or ball bearing fans too, as cheap sleeve bearing fans like R4s tend to fail quickly when placed on their sides: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233035

Yes, it's like $30-50 worth of fans, but it will ensure decent airflow over the GPUs so that you don't have customers calling you and complaining in the summer that their rig is dead because of heat.  My personal experience is that MSI cards have the best aftermarket cooling too, so I wouldn't buy anything but those.  They are still available if you search a lot for them.

Edit: I would also recommend the following PSU instead of the bronze one you chose http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182084
The reason being that this PSU will have >90% efficiency at the est. 450-550w or so you'll be pulling from the PC and also the 7 year warranty and also the price.

Based on my experience with these rigs, removing screws and a panel like so (takes < 1 minute to do): http://theopeneffect.com/VMS/screws.png
allows for excellent ventilation. Do you still think they would have trouble staying cool with this panel removed? If so, I might look into a tech bench, but the side panel seems like the main ventilation issue to me.

That is a nice PSU, certainly more efficient.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: HiveLibrary on April 14, 2013, 05:28:23 PM
ITT: autism

I wouldn't buy a machine that only supported 2 slots and could not be upgraded by adding more stuff.

Vorsholk has done a pretty awesome job. The penny pinchers will kick themselves when they have to buy another machine to add components.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 14, 2013, 05:31:41 PM
ITT: autism

I wouldn't buy a machine that only supported 2 slots and could not be upgraded by adding more stuff.

Vorsholk has done a pretty awesome job. The penny pinchers will kick themselves when they have to buy another machine to add components.

Right, the device is geared towards people who want to set down a unit, unscrew two screws, and have something work, people who want to be upgrading and expanding systems would not be interested in this product.

Edit: re-read what you had written, I think I may have misinterpreted it. With the old setup people would still have some ventilation issues with the higher quality hardware. :( I'm looking into the hardware to make 3x7950s work fine in a regular case, but it's not too promising. :\


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 15, 2013, 03:43:09 AM
Lowered testing period to three days.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: datguyian on April 15, 2013, 04:28:42 PM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



This sounds more like a resonably price.
I built 2 rigs with 2x7950 each last month for a total of less than 1400 € and they are hashing with over 2.2MH/s
And why this gigantic PSU? Just use a 630W for 45€ and 4 gig RAM. And there are ASRock mainboards with
2 PCIe 16x slots for less than 60€. I really don't get the pricing here

All this sounds like a rip off to me. Sorry

Curious.... was that supposed to say 1.2MH/s? If you are getting 2.2MH/s, could you let me know your over clocking stats and miner configuration? I'm building my rig with two 7950's tonight, but I didn't think I was going to do more than 1.3 or 1.4 at best and probably more like 1.2 average.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 15, 2013, 04:33:01 PM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



This sounds more like a resonably price.
I built 2 rigs with 2x7950 each last month for a total of less than 1400 € and they are hashing with over 2.2MH/s
And why this gigantic PSU? Just use a 630W for 45€ and 4 gig RAM. And there are ASRock mainboards with
2 PCIe 16x slots for less than 60€. I really don't get the pricing here

All this sounds like a rip off to me. Sorry

Curious.... was that supposed to say 1.2MH/s? If you are getting 2.2MH/s, could you let me know your over clocking stats and miner configuration? I'm building my rig with two 7950's tonight, but I didn't think I was going to do more than 1.3 or 1.4 at best and probably more like 1.2 average.

I think he built two rigs, each with 2x7950, for $1850 or so :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 16, 2013, 03:01:49 AM
Planning to accept Litecoin and Bitcoin if/when Ilikeham's BTC-e USD > PP grows. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 17, 2013, 02:49:12 AM
Made a website.

http://www.vorksholkms.com (http://www.vorksholkms.com)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gisfrancisco on April 21, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Looks interesting.At least for me,i could make it pay itself off and then give it to my teenager.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gisfrancisco on April 21, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Email not working on your site.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 21, 2013, 11:18:18 PM
Email not working on your site.

Sorry about that, fixed! :) Good catch.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: dan99 on April 22, 2013, 12:38:36 AM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



This sounds more like a resonably price.
I built 2 rigs with 2x7950 each last month for less than 1400 € and they are hashing with over 2.2MH/s
And why this gigantic PSU? Just use a 630W for 45€ and 4 gig RAM. And there are ASRock mainboards with
2 PCIe 16x slots for less than 60€. I really don't get the pricing here

All this sounds like a rip off to me. Sorry

I could do builds with this kind of hardware (aside from a milk box), if people would prefer. Really low-end core parts do significantly decrease versatility of the machine, but for a miner I suppose that's not a problem. I'll look into it.

$7 a day and cost $1200 and only 1mh/s?? for what?? wasting time and money. when you get to 200 to 300mh/s let us know


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 22, 2013, 12:54:25 AM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



This sounds more like a resonably price.
I built 2 rigs with 2x7950 each last month for less than 1400 € and they are hashing with over 2.2MH/s
And why this gigantic PSU? Just use a 630W for 45€ and 4 gig RAM. And there are ASRock mainboards with
2 PCIe 16x slots for less than 60€. I really don't get the pricing here

All this sounds like a rip off to me. Sorry

I could do builds with this kind of hardware (aside from a milk box), if people would prefer. Really low-end core parts do significantly decrease versatility of the machine, but for a miner I suppose that's not a problem. I'll look into it.

$7 a day and cost $1200 and only 1mh/s?? for what?? wasting time and money. when you get to 200 to 300mh/s let us know

200 to 300mh/s would probably be another decade at least, and moore's law is gonna hit a dead end real soon.

However, you might be thinking of Bitcoin MH/s. This unit is comparable to >1GH/s with bitcoin mining.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: dan99 on April 22, 2013, 01:07:42 AM
bitcoin mining can goes up to a few hundred gh, and averaging on 70gh/s which will be 70mh/s if in litecoin equivalent...


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: DigitalDoom on April 22, 2013, 01:10:23 AM
So why would I want to buy this when I can just go out on the market and get me a system 10x faster for far less 1x 7950 costs around $180 so that's 360 or their about

then ram everything else...... what makes this any different from someone walking out to a shop and just buying them ????

I give you credit for coming up with a services like this but i wish you best of luck in selling :)

I wish I would known where to get $180 7950s before I paid $300 for mine!!

Woulda bought 2X...LMFAO!

(I'm pretty sure you are talking about 7850s...not the same thing)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 22, 2013, 01:10:38 AM
bitcoin mining can goes up to a few hundred gh, and averaging on 70gh/s which will be 70mh/s if in litecoin equivalent...

Yes, for an ASIC. This is a GPU miner. Litecoin ASICs are a ways off :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: DigitalDoom on April 22, 2013, 01:32:26 AM
escrow?

Unfortunately during the early stages of this escrow would probably not be possible, as I need to buy the parts with the money from the purchases, so having the money come after I've tested and shipped the unit wouldn't hold well. Sorry :\

Keep in mind though that PayPal does protect buyers quite well, and therefore if I end up not shipping a product to you you could file a claim with them, and if I can't provide evidence of a shipping label, packaging, etc. then the money would be returned to your account. :)

Actually, Paypal does MUCH more to protect buyers than they do sellers. Sellers using Paypal take a very high risk of having their accounts froze and potentially never seeing the money they earned...I DO NOT recommend Paypal as an option for payment processing.

I've had 2 Paypal accounts frozen because of fraudulent buyers. Even though I was innocent and the victim in these incidences, Paypal froze my accounts, causing more lost money.

The first time, an Australian  buyer tried to use a stolen credit card number to purchase from me. Account was immediately frozen and lost all money in it (which luckily wasn't very much).

This last time it happened, they actually went into my personal checking account and took the money in question ($300+) out to freeze in my Paypal account...without any warning! All because a buyer filed a claim, trying to get more items than he paid for. After the bounced check fees, NSF fees, etc. it ended up costing me nearly $1,000.

Obviously, I will never use Paypal again!

Moral of the story...if a seller is willing to take on the risk of using Paypal as payment option, you can trust that your investment is safe! If you don't get your item, simply file a claim and the seller's business and personal finances will be immediately and without warning, frozen until you get either the item or a refund.

I strongly advise working with the seller though before going to Paypal. Filing a claim, whether it's legit or not, can potentially destroy the seller's business or personal finances. I've read stories of businesses having their account frozen for 6+ months with 10s of thousands of dollars in them. That could financially ruin a small/new business and possibly put a family's livelihood in jeopardy.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: bitcoiners on April 22, 2013, 01:37:06 AM
My only question is: with the current difficulty how many litecoins can this machine mine a day? 

I'm an early LTC investor and would love to buy one with my profits if not just for curiosity as I know nothing about building a computer.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: dan99 on April 22, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
about $7 or less per day depending on your electricity usage x 31 days = $217


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 22, 2013, 02:19:13 AM
Yes, right now you're looking at $225-$250 a month. It is a long-term investment, and also serves to pay itself off much faster as the price of litecoins rise. (Mine $500 worth of Litecoins in first two and a half months, they then double, it has earned $1000).


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: bitcoiners on April 22, 2013, 02:30:24 AM
Yes, right now you're looking at $225-$250 a month. It is a long-term investment, and also serves to pay itself off much faster as the price of litecoins rise. (Mine $500 worth of Litecoins in first two and a half months, they then double, it has earned $1000).

The only problem that I see.  Difficulty won't stay the same within that timeframe.  With asics in the wild and people with cpu/gpus that want to profit (everyone) will turn to LTC.  Difficulty will go up.  So now I'm mining less every other month with this machine.  So it becomes and even longer long term investment.

This is my reservation.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 22, 2013, 02:59:54 AM
Yes, right now you're looking at $225-$250 a month. It is a long-term investment, and also serves to pay itself off much faster as the price of litecoins rise. (Mine $500 worth of Litecoins in first two and a half months, they then double, it has earned $1000).

The only problem that I see.  Difficulty won't stay the same within that timeframe.  With asics in the wild and people with cpu/gpus that want to profit (everyone) will turn to LTC.  Difficulty will go up.  So now I'm mining less every other month with this machine.  So it becomes and even longer long term investment.

This is my reservation.

True, the hope is that price and difficulty stay synced :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: dan99 on April 22, 2013, 03:02:37 AM
everyone wants a long term investment, but would it better if you could rather take back your investments in days rather than months? takes 6 to 7 months with 1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner... and this days gpu cards are cheap..go for FPGA miner that is a better choice.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 22, 2013, 03:08:00 AM
everyone wants a long term investment, but would it better if you could rather take back your investments in days rather than months? takes 6 to 7 months with 1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner... and this days gpu cards are cheap..go for FPGA miner that is a better choice.

Right, but FPGAs aren't out yet for litecoin.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: datguyian on April 22, 2013, 05:37:05 PM
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 - $90
GPU: 2X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026 - $620
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339 - $63
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 - $39
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108 - $121
Plastic milk box: $10
2x Risers off ebay: $7
Any old HDD you can find, can get one for $10-15 on ebay

Total: $960-965


I doubt anyone is retarded to make a dedicated 2x 7950 miner in an actual pc case. It is not worth it.



That makes more sense... maybe I should pay attention to the details. :)

This sounds more like a resonably price.
I built 2 rigs with 2x7950 each last month for a total of less than 1400 € and they are hashing with over 2.2MH/s
And why this gigantic PSU? Just use a 630W for 45€ and 4 gig RAM. And there are ASRock mainboards with
2 PCIe 16x slots for less than 60€. I really don't get the pricing here

All this sounds like a rip off to me. Sorry

Curious.... was that supposed to say 1.2MH/s? If you are getting 2.2MH/s, could you let me know your over clocking stats and miner configuration? I'm building my rig with two 7950's tonight, but I didn't think I was going to do more than 1.3 or 1.4 at best and probably more like 1.2 average.

I think he built two rigs, each with 2x7950, for $1850 or so :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Saka on April 22, 2013, 05:56:52 PM
everyone wants a long term investment, but would it better if you could rather take back your investments in days rather than months? takes 6 to 7 months with 1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner... and this days gpu cards are cheap..go for FPGA miner that is a better choice.

Dan, I'm afraid you might be missing something. Litecoin uses a fundamentally different algorithm compared to Bitcoin. It's called scrypt, whereas Bitcoin uses SHA-256. Years went into development of speeding up SHA-256 to the point where hardware (FPGA's, then ultimately ASICs) was developed that significantly outpaced GPUs in terms of efficiency per dollar/watt. This specialized hardware is what allowed 60-70GH/s to be reached by a consumer-targeted machine, and let a lucky few who were able to get their hands on such machines make back their initial investments in a matter of a few days.

This technology doesn't exist for scrypt (Litecoin) yet. While I'm not sure I'd jump right onto the system at 1.1MH/s for $1200, it's not too far-fetched in terms of what it does for the price. Since ASICs/FPGA's don't exist for Litecoin, I'd estimate that trying to mine 60-70MH/s in Litecoin would cost an absolute minimum of $50,000.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gisfrancisco on April 23, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
Order made today,looking forward to it getting here.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 25, 2013, 10:47:49 PM
Gisfrancisco has made the first order, will be putting together a tutorial soon with how to create your own miner too :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 27, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
Sold 2/3 introductory units. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on April 28, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
Added pictures of our software to OP. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: justabitoftime on May 03, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
Added pictures of our software to OP. :)

Would love an update.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 03, 2013, 08:43:28 PM
Added pictures of our software to OP. :)

Would love an update.

What would you like an update on? Perhaps some pics? :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Herbalconfusion on May 03, 2013, 10:48:50 PM
Interested still. Anyone received yet? You seem like a very straight forward and honest guy. Something which is a bit of a rarity in the online realm.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: justabitoftime on May 03, 2013, 10:59:29 PM
Interested still. Anyone received yet? You seem like a very straight forward and honest guy. Something which is a bit of a rarity in the online realm.

This is what I'm looking for as well.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 03, 2013, 11:26:30 PM
Interested still. Anyone received yet? You seem like a very straight forward and honest guy. Something which is a bit of a rarity in the online realm.

Our first two miners will be shipping out this coming Monday, I'd be more than happy to post some pics of the units, will probably be able to in around 6 hours. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 04, 2013, 04:13:06 PM
Here's a picture of a unit I am shipping out on Monday:

https://i.imgur.com/mZrmqsE.jpg

that is the 1.1MH/s option.

Update: 2/3 Introductory Units sold! Price may go up just a tad after the third one is sold.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: BBQKorv on May 04, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
Nice, just a few zipties in there and its professional looking.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 04, 2013, 06:02:19 PM
Nice, just a few zipties in there and its professional looking.

Thanks!


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Herbalconfusion on May 04, 2013, 11:25:22 PM
Do the motherboards have support for more cards? I am not interested in adding a card within the case but rather with a 12 inch extender and housing this 3rd card more "open air".


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Herbalconfusion on May 04, 2013, 11:26:15 PM
I am seriously tinkering with the idea of buying your 3rd unit. How long until you will be building more?


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 05, 2013, 12:54:14 AM
Do the motherboards have support for more cards? I am not interested in adding a card within the case but rather with a 12 inch extender and housing this 3rd card more "open air".

The motherboard itself that we use has two PCIe x16 ports, plus two PCIe x1 ports (one of which would be taken up by the WiFi card if going that route). You could get a x1 to x16 adapter, perhaps a 4P powered one :)

If you are interested in paying a bit more, I could get you a motherboard with up to 5 PCIe x16 slots, if you are interested.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 05, 2013, 01:01:00 AM
I am seriously tinkering with the idea of buying your 3rd unit. How long until you will be building more?

The 3rd one, if ordered today, would have parts arrive (probably) Wednesday of next week, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday would be testing days (as nothing happens on Sunday at the shipping places . . .), and it would ship out the following Monday morning :).

As for after the 3rd unit sells, I have no idea. Not expecting more than a 2-3 day hiatus, during that time I'm just reevaluating my business model, possibly bumping up prices a small amount (depends on how much my average shipping cost is between the three introduction units), and take another look at alternate hardware configurations. If I had to guess, I'd say price will go up $10 to $20 bucks between the 3rd unit and the 4th.

As well, I may start accepting Escrow pretty soon, building up enough momentum to do pre-purchases of hardware, and have them ready to assemble (or even in on their testing period) at purchase time.

Another limiting factor is that I'm working with two (what I believe to be) 15-amp circuits, each of which can provide, following the 80% rule, just under 1500 Watts. Two machines take up between 600-680W, so I can only run 4 units testing at a time, and two of those positions are taken up by my own miners. However, I don't expect to have that become a problem soon. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: hellobtcc on May 05, 2013, 01:57:44 AM
good


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 05, 2013, 04:47:55 AM
We have had one unit go faulty: one of the heatsinks on the card is bad, and requires an RMA process.

I have offered the person whose unit is affected three options:

1.) Ship the unit as is, downclock 2nd card to run at okay temperatures.
2.) Swap it out for another card which can arrive by Wednesday of this week. Point 1.1MH/s worth of hashing power to his (or her) pool (or pools, failover, balance) of choice for the duration of the wait (from tomorrow morning until when the unit actually ships).
3.) Send him (her) 30LTC, more than they would make during the waiting period if they were to mine with the unit. (They would get 21 LTC is difficulty stayed the same).

Aiming for full transparency here. I do plan to, once order volume increases, keep a few cards on hand to better deal with such issues. :(


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Hazard on May 05, 2013, 06:18:20 PM
"PC Power and cooling" is an off-brand, I am using 80+ Certified GOLD PSUs from SeaSonic, which are more efficient, and much more reliable, in addition to producing less heat.
Just wanted to take a moment and laugh at this. PCP&C is not an offbrand. In fact, they purchase units from SeaSonic and resell them with the PCP&C logo on them. You clearly don't know your stuff.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 05, 2013, 06:33:04 PM
"PC Power and cooling" is an off-brand, I am using 80+ Certified GOLD PSUs from SeaSonic, which are more efficient, and much more reliable, in addition to producing less heat.
Just wanted to take a moment and laugh at this. PCP&C is not an offbrand. In fact, they purchase units from SeaSonic and resell them with the PCP&C logo on them. You clearly don't know your stuff.

They used to be amazing, especially during their pre-2007 acquisition by OCZ. However, being a daughter brand of OCZ now, I stay clear of them. I have had OCZ PSUs, needless to say I'm not thrilled with them. Since they share the same supply line, I don't trust PCP&C PSUs anymore, though I am aware they are a step up from OCZ still.

The PC Power and Cooling supply that I would use would the the 750W one, which is $105-$110 and has 4 stars. The one I currently use for builds is $90 and has 5 stars. 
As well, I have switched to EVGA supernovas, same quality as SeaSonics so far and for a slightly better price.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 06, 2013, 12:35:27 AM
All three introduction units sold, short hiatus and price re-evaluation.

Thanks! :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Herbalconfusion on May 06, 2013, 02:51:08 AM
Congrats man!


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 06, 2013, 03:06:21 AM
Congrats man!

Thanks!


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 07, 2013, 01:05:46 PM
I have determined that taking the side panel off is a hazard to children and pets (think bright blue lights, hot parts, and spinning fans). Therefore, I am going to do some testing with the side panel on, and market them at that speed, not to have the side panel removed. The hashing speed will be lower, I apologize.

Additionally, the only price change I am putting into effect is a +$25 (for a total of $85 shipping in the contiguous US/United States) to cover fully insuring the shipment to avoid damage and pay for damage if it occurs.

Will announce finalized pricing, and new hash rate sometime in the next 24 hours, and website will be back up and taking orders by Friday.

Thanks!

Note: If you ordered a unit, and are now worried about it being a hazard for children or pets, we will give you a full refund! We are going to contact all buyers before shipping to alert them to the hazard, and we will not ship their unit until they clear it, as being okay with the lower hash rate since the computer lid should remain on.

 


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: jtmart007 on May 07, 2013, 01:13:46 PM
This is a great idea and I am glad people are interested in what you have to offer. I am sure this point has been brought up but not everyone has PC building knowledge/time+patience/will to want to set up dedicated mining rigs. As investors in mining they simply want to throw money at something and make magic happen, which is what service you provide.

If you do end up cranking up sales and getting more people involved let me know - I'll shoot a PM your way.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gica_contra on May 07, 2013, 01:16:40 PM
Having the side on+fan blowing air onto them worked wonders for my cards. Have you tested this? Also congrats for using ASrock motherboards. A company that changed their product from not POST-ing so something good in a few years. Hope you grow your business.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 07, 2013, 03:35:02 PM
Having the side on+fan blowing air onto them worked wonders for my cards. Have you tested this? Also congrats for using ASrock motherboards. A company that changed their product from not POST-ing so something good in a few years. Hope you grow your business.

That's what I'm hoping, I gotta do some testing though, see how the performance turns out :)


On a side note, shipped the first unit out yesterday, person is going to post a few pics when he receives it :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gica_contra on May 07, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
Is that a Corsair case? You might wanna take advantage of their cable management. Also the red crashes with the blue from the PSU.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 07, 2013, 04:56:06 PM
Is that a Corsair case? You might wanna take advantage of their cable management. Also the red crashes with the blue from the PSU.

It's a Rosewill Blackhawk, and the cablemanagement with it is alright, some of the cables for front panel connectors run a bit short, unfortunately.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 07, 2013, 11:49:40 PM
After some testing with the case having the side panel secured to the unit, the miner is still capable of 1.1MH/s in reasonably-temperatured environments (72F to 76F). I modified the case slightly by flipping the intake side fan to be an output fan -- so instead of blowing air down on the cards while  they are trying to spew warm air up, it works with the cards to pull the heat off the top of the cards.

I'm going to update my site in the next day or two to reflect the danger of opening the side of the case (small kids/pets sticking stuff in the fans, getting injured, touching hot stuff), and will be/am in the process of contacting people who have already ordered to make sure they are alright with the change in design/marketing/etc.

Will be accepting more orders at the new +$25 price very soon. Thanks for your patience. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 08, 2013, 12:48:11 AM
Testing has shown that, in a 76 degree Fahrenheit house, the unit is able to hash at just over 1.1MH/s and keep both cards in the 80-85C range, with the full case on, and assembled. It has been holding that hashrate+temp for a little over 2 hours, and is going strong.


It's also fairly quiet, quiet being, of course, a relative term.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 09, 2013, 01:08:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/X4erKGG.jpg


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 10, 2013, 04:21:44 PM
Next week will be extremely busy for me, so accepting orders will continue after May 19th. Sorry for the inconvenience.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gica_contra on May 10, 2013, 06:35:06 PM
After some testing with the case having the side panel secured to the unit, the miner is still capable of 1.1MH/s in reasonably-temperatured environments (72F to 76F). I modified the case slightly by flipping the intake side fan to be an output fan -- so instead of blowing air down on the cards while  they are trying to spew warm air up, it works with the cards to pull the heat off the top of the cards.

I'm going to update my site in the next day or two to reflect the danger of opening the side of the case (small kids/pets sticking stuff in the fans, getting injured, touching hot stuff), and will be/am in the process of contacting people who have already ordered to make sure they are alright with the change in design/marketing/etc.

Will be accepting more orders at the new +$25 price very soon. Thanks for your patience. :)

The cards are directing air out from the back of you computer because of the heat-sink design. Did you thy "fan blows air into cads, they blow said air onto heatsink and out of the back of you you computer"? Not bashing just saying.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 10, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
After some testing with the case having the side panel secured to the unit, the miner is still capable of 1.1MH/s in reasonably-temperatured environments (72F to 76F). I modified the case slightly by flipping the intake side fan to be an output fan -- so instead of blowing air down on the cards while  they are trying to spew warm air up, it works with the cards to pull the heat off the top of the cards.

I'm going to update my site in the next day or two to reflect the danger of opening the side of the case (small kids/pets sticking stuff in the fans, getting injured, touching hot stuff), and will be/am in the process of contacting people who have already ordered to make sure they are alright with the change in design/marketing/etc.

Will be accepting more orders at the new +$25 price very soon. Thanks for your patience. :)

The cards are directing air out from the back of you computer because of the heat-sink design. Did you thy "fan blows air into cads, they blow said air onto heatsink and out of the back of you you computer"? Not bashing just saying.

Not quite sure what you are saying, but since these cards are non-reference-design, they tend to ventilate through the top of the card (opposite of the PCIe connection) as well. The fans, if left alone, would push air down into the cards while the cards are trying to push some air out the top. However, flipping the fan pulls out both the hot air exhausted from the top of the card, as well as the heated air the back of the boards produce.

Cheers!


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gisfrancisco on May 11, 2013, 12:27:22 AM
My mining rig is in

https://i.imgur.com/qdrcpjn.jpg

with the cover

https://i.imgur.com/gdoOwul.jpg

and without. been running 3 hours averaging 1180kh/s
card 0 78C card 2 75
I'm damn impressed with it,i may have to get another.
Thanks again Vorksholk


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 11, 2013, 12:39:14 AM
My mining rig is in

https://i.imgur.com/qdrcpjn.jpg

with the cover

https://i.imgur.com/gdoOwul.jpg

and without. been running 3 hours averaging 1180kh/s
card 0 78C card 2 75
I'm damn impressed with it,i may have to get another.
Thanks again Vorksholk

Thanks Gis! :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Herbalconfusion on May 11, 2013, 05:07:17 PM
Glad to see it made it to you in working order! I am sure that was a major fear. haha


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: gisfrancisco on May 14, 2013, 05:19:02 PM
running 4 days constantly, avg 1180 kh/s top card 80 C other 75 C.Room temp stays 72.Getting ready to put a vent a hood venting outside to get ready for the warm months here in Ky.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 14, 2013, 08:41:17 PM
Glad to see it made it to you in working order! I am sure that was a major fear. haha

Yeah, good to know I packed it good enough, shipping a somewhat-delecate thing for the first time is always scary. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1400 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: computerparts on May 14, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
PLease post a pic of the case.

it takes a LOT to keep a 2x7950 in a concealed case cool.


All it takes is the right fan positioning, airflow, and speed. It is possible to make a case setup run cooler than open air, but for that you need to basically turn the case into a vacuum.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: drlukacs on May 14, 2013, 09:21:59 PM
Warranty:
We don't provide any warranty ourselves on the machines we sell, however many of the components come with manufacturer warranties. You will need to open the box to send items back. We will guarantee that when the product leaves us, it works great.

I strongly recommend that you look up the notion of "statutory warranty," because as a seller, you cannot disclaim every warranty in most jurisdictions.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 14, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
Warranty:
We don't provide any warranty ourselves on the machines we sell, however many of the components come with manufacturer warranties. You will need to open the box to send items back. We will guarantee that when the product leaves us, it works great.

I strongly recommend that you look up the notion of "statutory warranty," because as a seller, you cannot disclaim every warranty in most jurisdictions.

A statutory warranty, as I understand it, is used in real estate (mostly) and certifies that the seller has the title on the property being sold.

As a clarification, if a person would like to ship the product back to me for fixing I don't mind at all, as I can do the RMA myself. It is just cheaper and easier for the buyer to go through the manufacturer, as they only have to ship a light-weight part rather than a 40-pound monster.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: drlukacs on May 14, 2013, 11:52:06 PM
Warranty:
We don't provide any warranty ourselves on the machines we sell, however many of the components come with manufacturer warranties. You will need to open the box to send items back. We will guarantee that when the product leaves us, it works great.

I strongly recommend that you look up the notion of "statutory warranty," because as a seller, you cannot disclaim every warranty in most jurisdictions.

A statutory warranty, as I understand it, is used in real estate (mostly) and certifies that the seller has the title on the property being sold.

I am afraid you are wrong on that. You may wish to look up the Sales of Goods Act and the Consumer Protection Act of various provinces.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 15, 2013, 12:03:27 AM
Warranty:
We don't provide any warranty ourselves on the machines we sell, however many of the components come with manufacturer warranties. You will need to open the box to send items back. We will guarantee that when the product leaves us, it works great.

I strongly recommend that you look up the notion of "statutory warranty," because as a seller, you cannot disclaim every warranty in most jurisdictions.

A statutory warranty, as I understand it, is used in real estate (mostly) and certifies that the seller has the title on the property being sold.

I am afraid you are wrong on that. You may wish to look up the Sales of Goods Act and the Consumer Protection Act of various provinces.

"For example, in Washington when a grantor (seller) delivers a statutory warranty deed, the grantor warrants "(1) That at the time of the making and delivery of such deed he was lawfully seized of an indefeasible estate in fee simple, in and to the premises therein described, and had good right and full power to convey the same; (2) that the same were then free from all encumbrances; and (3) that he warrants to the grantee, his heirs and assigns, the quiet and peaceable possession of such premises, and will defend the title thereto against all persons who may lawfully claim the same, and such covenants shall be obligatory upon any grantor, his heirs and personal representatives, as fully and with like effect as if written at full length in such deed." RCW 64.04.030. A warranty deed has nothing to do with the quality or condition of the improvements -- the warranties affect title only."

The Sales of Goods Act applies to the United Kingdom.

As for the Consumer Protection Act:
Quote
Whenever you buy merchandise, it comes with a warranty. This is a guarantee that it will serve the purpose it was purchased for - in other words, it will work.
 The two basic types of warranty are express and implied. An express warranty is a promise from the seller, either written, oral or in an ad, promising that the item will perform its function for a specified period. Whether the item purchased is new or used, an express warranty is a guarantee that the item will work. However, not all items come with an express warranty.


 The law automatically provides the second type of warranty, the implied warranty. Implied warranties are a part of all retail sales of new and used consumer goods. Basically, the retailer of an item implies that the item will work properly and be of average grade and quality, as long as it is used for the purpose it was sold. For example, a refrigerator will keep stuff cool as long as you are not trying to cool the entire room, and a blender will blend as long as you are not blending rocks.

The Consumer Protection Act can last UP TO four years in perfect circumstances, but would be far less in the case of high-performance computing devices, which don't last nearly that long. It is an implied warranty that takes reasonable considerations into account. The products I sell are made from high quality parts, and will work well in areas with proper ventilation and cooling. My products do come with warranty; the manufacturer's warranty for every component is forwarded onto the buyer. As stated before, if the buyer wishes to pay for shipping, I'll gladly fix the product, however it is much faster and more cost effective for the buyer to go directly to the manufacturer.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: drlukacs on May 15, 2013, 01:16:46 AM
The Sales of Goods Act applies to the United Kingdom.

As for the Consumer Protection Act:
Quote
Whenever you buy merchandise, it comes with a warranty. This is a guarantee that it will serve the purpose it was purchased for - in other words, it will work.
 The two basic types of warranty are express and implied. An express warranty is a promise from the seller, either written, oral or in an ad, promising that the item will perform its function for a specified period. Whether the item purchased is new or used, an express warranty is a guarantee that the item will work. However, not all items come with an express warranty.


 The law automatically provides the second type of warranty, the implied warranty. Implied warranties are a part of all retail sales of new and used consumer goods. Basically, the retailer of an item implies that the item will work properly and be of average grade and quality, as long as it is used for the purpose it was sold. For example, a refrigerator will keep stuff cool as long as you are not trying to cool the entire room, and a blender will blend as long as you are not blending rocks.

The Consumer Protection Act can last UP TO four years in perfect circumstances, but would be far less in the case of high-performance computing devices, which don't last nearly that long. It is an implied warranty that takes reasonable considerations into account. The products I sell are made from high quality parts, and will work well in areas with proper ventilation and cooling. My products do come with warranty; the manufacturer's warranty for every component is forwarded onto the buyer. As stated before, if the buyer wishes to pay for shipping, I'll gladly fix the product, however it is much faster and more cost effective for the buyer to go directly to the manufacturer.

You seem to forget that there is a certain country north of the US that seems to follow common law to a great extent, and has codified any of the UK precedents in its statutes. I suggest that you look up Sales of Goods Act and Consumer Protection Act of various Canadian provinces.

Just for starters: You, as the seller, will very likely have to pay for all shipping costs if something goes wrong.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 22, 2013, 09:54:11 PM
Starting tomorrow we will begin taking orders again.

Price for the unit will stay (for now) at $1200.
Price for shipping in the contiguous 48 states will be $95, as we ship our miners fully insured. :)


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Mapuo on May 22, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
OMG its $500 overpriced


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: drlukacs on May 23, 2013, 03:57:25 AM
OMG its $500 overpriced

I agree.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 23, 2013, 04:22:19 AM
OMG its $500 overpriced

If you have a way to build this machine for $700 I'd pay to see that parts list!


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1200 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: crazyearner on May 23, 2013, 04:29:37 AM
You selling any gpus on their own looking for 3 to begin with and more depending on price.


Title: Re: [Now Open] $1220 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on May 30, 2013, 02:02:19 AM
We are back to taking orders if people are interested.

Also, is anyone interested in a 4U rackmount solution? I'm looking into this. :)


You selling any gpus on their own looking for 3 to begin with and more depending on price.

I could sell the cards on their own if you are interested, not quite sure why you would want to to through me instead of through a retailer though.



Title: Re: [Now Open] $1220 for >1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner -- Vorksholk's Mining Solutions
Post by: Vorksholk on June 01, 2013, 09:36:09 PM
Now accepting Bitcoins and Litecoins!

10 Bitcoins or 450 Litecoins for the 1.1MH/s Litecoin Miner, includes shipping anywhere in the Continental United States!