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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

War is a bad idea for everyone.

Simply as there is nothing for anyone to gain by going to war.

If china bombs the united states, who will buy their cheaply made, counterfeit, goods?

China bombing their #1 consumer makes no sense.

If united states bombs china, who will make our cheap ipods?

War is unlikely whatever the fearmongering media says.

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sometimes you need a war to get peace

War is very profitable especially to the USA. Its the most lucrative business ever.

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In last decade wars were profitable ONLY for USA.

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they'd have to be very careful this time. it looks like they are no match to China anymore now that they've positioned themselves on south china sea. they now owned that horizon there. its goint to be a different approach for them. china isn't middle east.

In this kind of scenario, we must know what will be our future?. If these two countries are going to be on war, we shall see our future, we know that these two countries are handling a lot of massive and powerful weapons and equipment that can lead one of the country will be destroyed a lot.

we all know that china is now heading againts us. when barrack obama was in the presidents place, the china is starting to lead the economic race agains US. so us must pick the right and the most qualified president that they can choose. for now trump is just on its presidents place. we dont know what can he do to run his nation. so better watch out what he can do and he also need support from his country men.

A USA - China war wouldn't be profitable to anyone. With the modern armaments they'd probably destroy and pollute everything in their path and both sides know it. Worst thing that's going to happen is an embargo, maneuvers at sea, show of force (maybe some missile tests) and flexing of muscles. Same thing that North Korea has been doing for years.

If a trade war broke out, the United States will be how to hurt each other? Trump Chinese brilliant performance, can make those who thought Trump was elected political pressure is far less than the Hilary elected since a slap in the face, from the principle of trump will, to coerce China in economic concession on the best interests of the United States, the use of politics to achieve the goal of economic benefits, will be Trump to play to the extreme, far than the damage of political pressure on the pure China much.

I believe Donald trump comment on trade war with China is not realistic because most Chinese goods are very cheap in fact they use to devalues there currency so that it will be affordable for poorer countries. there is one thing american,Germany are not aware off,the Chinese focus more on poorer countries by penetrating  into there market by selling cheaper goods,while Europe and Americans goods are too expensive

The only reason Trump seems like going against One China policy is because he's building a hotel in Taiwan. I think he will only go so far to protect his investment but not to piss off China too much. If played well, the outcome could be good for us living in Taiwan and possibly for the whole region.

maybe for some reasons, someone will profit. like what you have just said that testing weapons and missiles. when some other country saw what they have(weapons and war missiles). they will be pleased to buy that weapon. same thing  for both parties. but they will profit but the others will suffer because of what they have done to the path they have go.

If a war come up between US and China then thats the start of world war III. Allied countries will help the Unites States of America and China with its allied countries will also join the fray. This time war will not bring profit but violence, hatred and death.

But I dont believe that the 2 countries will go to war they also consider the consequences of the war and if these two countries finished fighting they will face economic crisis and rehabilitation problems.

Well its very risky to the new president i mean China and Russia are the most powerful when it comes to war because they have alot of people and they are highly skilled because they trained every day -_- and they don't have any gun control they own their own gud :O but seriously i know trump will succeed in that mission of his because people who supported him will be his power and the power to be a leader :D

Trump could start a trade war with China, but win it he can't. For example automotive. Where is the guarantee that after trying the start of production in America he doesn't lose competition to the Japanese brands?

There will be no war between the US, Russia or China.

The middle east however is another story

I dont think most people here realize that the one china policy is something like a political doctrine.
They wont change their stance on it.

So as long as trump wants an independent taiwan war is inevitable.

The two countries has been competitor in any aspect they have things that compliment to each other that is why it is not possible for them to have a trade war. Just hoping that this war would not go far and beyond the unexpected things to happen. Hoping for a peaceful trade for this 2 countries.

America and China are totally different interests, and they will not be able to find a common interest. If the Americans want to weaken China then you need to move production from China to other countries, and if the goal is to move production to America it will be a loss.

i thought doesnt fight USA with China, because of they are alliance.

China has a lot to lose by engaging US. So I believe it's not on their interest to seek such war, not even by Taiwan. They would loose their Asiatic sphere of influence. To not mention their ancient hi-tech enemy, Japan...
«Oh but they've a big army!»... unless you're on the 3rd World, nobody is fighting wars with foot soldiers anymore, and that just means it would take more bodybags. Too much at stake and for them this can be an opportunity for explore alternative markets.

china and united state of america is not that close. this two giant nations in some part of laws of the world have contradictions. they are just part of the asean and can help each other. but based on what we are seeing they have their own right to defend against the other. so being in the same alliance will not means that they cant start a war.

China and America will not be able to find a common strategy. Their interests are opposite each other. A hot war between them, but a trade war could begin. I can already see that Trump will lose this war.

Just like North and South Korea, they have opposite mind sets. We all know that United States and China has its own ideas and interests. We all also know that Trump can lead a war between two countries. We must see what will be our future if USA and China declare war.

The war between them cannot stop anymore, it has been a system since they have both aiming one thing and that is to be the number 1 most powerful country in the world. In the other hand, we need this 2 countries in our economy, they are both good with different product that is why they differ in the other way around and both of them are powerful no doubt.

That's right. If it comes to war Chinese hackers (or any hackers for that matter) will shut down the ancient US power grid and the US economy is gone in seconds.

From the Trump speech judgment, he cares about most is the huge U.S. trade deficit of Chinese, this situation lasted for 30 years, from $3 billion 900 million in 1985, has been extended to the end of 2015 to a record $365 billion 700 million in the face of this situation, business people Trump as a future president of the United States, of course, very much. 2001 Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz (Joseph E. Stiglitz) describes the situation between the two countries: the current account deficit, more than 1.5% of GDP, will be drastic friction; more than 2%, will lead to retaliatory action; if a country to another country's trade surplus over the China World Trade Center trade 25%-30%. It is a political issue.

In my opinion US President Donald Trump want his country to make more dependant to their products .As for now Donald Trump exit the trade deal with their allied nations in Asia.Lets wait if Donald Trump make the America Great Again.

This war will never happen. It is a dream scenario for people who like to play war games in their minds. Like a good chess scenario between two great players. The United States never fights an economic adversary head on and the same goes twice as much for China. There will be more(maybe) satellite wars fought by other nations just like the Cold War. Just read up on how China trains their government officials and generals. They do not train for traditional war. They try to take down their opponents without fighting.

Also, if you read Chinese newspapers and read up on their officials, they always state they are not ready for an all out war. Their navy and Air Force are not equipped to take on the USA.

The congressmen, Edward Markey and Ted Lew introduced a bill prohibiting American President Donald Trump's first to use nuclear weapons against other countries.
According to the congressmen, with the advent of trump to power the issue of nuclear weapons has become extremely relevant because the new American President "has the right to start a nuclear war at any moment".In particular, the authors of the bill recalled the words of trump, who promised to consider the question of a nuclear strike by terrorists.
American politicians believe that such a policy "significantly increases the risk of inadvertent nuclear escalation".

Well i think if theres anything that we cantrust trump to do well in his term, its in the economic aspect of governing. Being a successful businessman i think trump knows all to well what to do with america's economy. If he deemed that cutting away from china and depending more in our own products, then i'm willing to give him a chance to prove himself. Hopefully the conflict here doesnt escalate militarily. It's going to be dangerous not only for these two countries but to the whole world

That's bullshit he's a business man not a warmonger. They are just trying to paint him as a crazy person who would do that when he gets angry.

How shameless can these Democrats be? If Edward Markey is serious, then he must introduce a bill to jail people who order invasions of third world nations. He will never do that, as most of the guys who are going to be targeted will be from the Democrat party. Remember Clinton ordering the bombing of Serbian orphanages and kindergartens in 1999?

rigth now a war is far way, all parts are aware of the consequences of a war, china has many of its reserves in us dollars, that they are continuely threating to change it after every meassure against it by us, that would make the usd price to go down, at this moment china and rusia are countries that need to be taken really serious by us goverment, the times when they ruled the world at their convinience are over. at least thats what i think and its being proved by reality

Do you not realize that a large percentage of wars are started because of businessmen and their desires for more power? Jesus majority of you people were totally against people like him until he popped up. Now you all act like the blind. Wake up.

He is businessman and want more profit and power just because of this he can start was because its happening in last few centuries most of wars going to profit and more power and if Trump is also try to do this its nothing new in human history

Despite popular belief, China is a balanced superpower that would still trade excessively even if Donald Trump's policies get through.

Russia has made alignment offers with a China to open up boundaries, but both may have potential disputes regarding what would get sent through.

It's a complicated issue but it seems to me that a trade war between USA and China is not likely to be. Trump said that he wants to change big changes in trading consensus between two countries. Mass media deduced Trump's declarations as trade war. China exports are about one fifth to US market and on the other side China would let yuan to free float and US products will no longer be competitive. At the end both of them will lose more than they expected to gain.

Your raising the only important fact about Trump.

USA is a warmonger country. They have never built anything FOR their country but rather AGAINST an enemy.
They need to feel threatened in order to go forth.
That's a pity but that's also a fact. That's why they never have been at peace.

Enemy was Russia. Then it became Middle East. And now Trump points at a new enemy: China.

Trump was talking about 40-50% import tariffs for china.
That is pretty extreme.

I totaly agree an economic and/military war between us and china would be bad for the whole world.

But now that trump started to make his promises true (re mexican wall, obamacare, abortion funding) there is definitely the chance he will stay to his words on the china issue.

I don't think so.
Trump said many things in his campaign but he already changed a lot.
Regarding China, we have to be aware that China is very important trade partner with America and that China owns a lot of American debt.
So, Trump have no choice but to negotiate with China.
I think that domestic issues are much more important for Trump now than foreign affairs.
Never believe everything what politician promise during campaign :)

That's why America is always making its dollar on the trend. That's their tactic, to declare war.
And to make the people believe that they are strong.

The Chinese economy, which is crawling along at the moment will be completely destroyed if Trump introduce tariffs targeting the Chinese products. The United States is the primary market for Chinese manufactured goods and they need an unrestricted access to that market. Russia, or any other country can't replace the market in the US.

You are right but Chinese working on other markets also even they cannot replace United States but still good for them and they will be no completely destroyed by Trump's any tariffs target because they also need many products from them because no other country can fulfill their demand if Chines out of this Market

If Trump imposes a tariff on the Chinese goods (say 20%), then that is going to push up the prices of consumer electrical and other goods imported from China. This will make the American products more competitive against the Chinese ones.

I don't think that there will be a war between USA and China because like the China and the Russia are communist and that Trump do the peace like Poutine.

   That part of the world is very interesting in past 20 years, on one side we have USA with strong influence on Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, and on other side Russia, China and North Corea. War between each of this countries will mean start of the next world war.
   China now is completely different story from China 50 years ago, and looks like USA will try to stop that fast grow.

Is not about the price of their products, is about their jobs, world market, trade, influences, economy etc. They believe china has taken all these from them. whereas their past leaders, entrepreneurs and investors gave it to them. Trade war is not what is needed now. Another problem is that America doesn't know how many enemies they have gotten now, not only outside but right within themselves.some countries are not even ready to go back to America since the trade with china suits them. I just expect all these to come down after a while, just as brexit is not yearning as before. Then they should look for alternatives than trade war

we just hope that this could not be true because if it happened this could be the beginning of world war 3........

A war with China would instantly create 1 Million US Jobs...... Hopefully they can find a better way than that.

Can not hope. When Americans voted for Trump they supported the theses of this clown. When Trump declares war on China but he is doing everything to deprive America of the allies. I already know who will lose this war.

You need to specify that we are talking about a "trade" war. Yes.... it is going to create a lot of American jobs, provided that the Congress approve tax cuts and other pro-business measures.The chances for a physical confrontation is extremely low. Both China and the US will refrain from attacking first.

Trade war US vs China can be good but war with soldiers isnt a really good strategy because many pupils are dying and they can only destroy this world.

The PLA are officially preparing for a possible military intervention of the US.
They wrote on their homepage that war could be starting soon and are deploying their weapon systems near russia and south china sea.

Nonsense! How is he going to increase the number of jobs if manufacturing in America much more expensive than in China. He is going to pay Americans as much as the Chinese. He is stupid and knows nothing about the global economy.

There are many reasons behind the higher cost of manufacturing in the United States. The most important are environmental regulations, taxes, export tariffs, minimum wage, Obamacare.etc. Trump is going to remove most of these obstacles.

friend, you are even talking about business what of innocent life that will be lost. The elites benefits during war but the masses suffer. The life principle though by our lord Jesus Christ will be the answer to this our generation. He said " love your enemies and pray for who illy used you" Russian are beating they chest to go into war with American and now china. Were will this evils end! Come lord o lord come.

World wars began first as economic wars so it could be possible the economic war escalates to a military conflict, but we need to forget about the possibility of an open conflict since that would mean the destruction of both nations and large parts of the world.

Trump is really confident about his own decisions even it obviously seems outrageous. It not really my thing to bash people but I think he doesn't think thing through. We need all the help that we can get and avoid making enemies as much as possible. War will just happen if we don't have good relationships with other countries.

The war will be if you let a potential enemy to develop its economy and as a consequence to strengthen its military power. And if this, America will lose all its allies it is generally a losing option.

I do not think the countries will want to enter a new world war again.
But if there is a possible war, the alliance states will be like this.

America, Europe and Arab countries
Russia, China, Iran and Far Eastern countries

Right now Trump is trying to destroy this order. He has destroyed the Asia-Pacific Union. Now destroys NATO and the Alliance with Europe. The lifting of the sanctions will strengthen Russia's military might. What does he have to do to make the Americans understand that Trump agent of Russia?

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War between the US and China will not. This will be a mutual destruction.

Posturing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raPlbnr2dCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt24oxcKUJc (Note China also moved ICBMs into firing position to reach the USA West coast)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNHReXfZFRg (Trump planning a missile defense system)

North Korea is a proxy which China controls and uses for leverage.

War is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery

Trump is agent of Russia? How funny.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes, however war with China will be a slightly different story. All of the business and trade we have with China will be ruined, and in terms of business, it would be a huge detriment to the United States.

In a war, the participating nations loss more than they gain, even if they manage a military victory. Look at the USSR in the world war 2. They managed to defeat the Nazis, but in that process lost about 15% of the total population (most of them working age males).

Obama and Hillary oversaw the largest US military build up in Asia since WW2 through their Asia Pivot. As a Chinese person who keeps up with these things, I can say that the Chinese government was very nervous about Obama's military aggression and so they started building bases in the south china sea etc. They aren't scared of Trump, they're just saying war is imminent because they know all the leftists in the US will jump on it to remove Trump's ability to negotiate trade deals with China (he's 100% right that China is ripping off the US, we've been doing it for like 20 years now, it's great for us).

The main problem is that Trump doesn't realize (or doesn't care) that the previous administration pointed a gun at China's head and passed it along to him, I don't know what the military industrial complex will be whispering in his ear - with Obama he just did what they told him without question because he makes money from it, with Trump I think he'll do what they want just because he's easy to manipulate and doesn't know what's going on.

We cannot accused Obama and Hilton about this, it is about the war of United States and China therefore, we must know what is their intentions. I think that President Trump cannot make a decision from now, but after a year or months later, he can decide what will happen. We cannot question him what he will do from now, I think President can manipulate or he is scared, because, it so very risky to take a decision from now.

War only creates casualties. The weakest people are children. Children will suffer from unsafe situation.

People are very aggressive animals and can't live without wars. Wars help control the overpopulation of the planet and stimulate the economy. Can to prevent them is not possible and we need to accept this fact?

I was thinking a similar thing, that a president cannot really even have much influence over this situation anyway, they have to do what they are told or they get killed or impeached or whatever.

Well, the rely on one another. plus Jack Ma has been in talks with Trump so i doubt it would bring a war.... They will solve it in the end.

And I'm sure that there will be no war. Unless you mean a trade war. If a trade war then she had to go and not only with China. Now there is a global trade war. I don't think she will grow into a hot war.

China has just positioned their ICBM's to retaliate just in case pepe is going crazy.

It seems to me that nuclear weapons are a fetish. Not in vain had spent a lot of money for its creation and maintenance periodically they must reveal it to other countries. So they have shown. Nuclear war will not.

What if it is the other way around? Frequent conflicts encourage people to produce more children, and it affects the popularization of family planning. If you look at the list of nations with the highest birth rate, you will notice that almost all of them are conflict-prone.

Not all of them. In Russia, for example, the death rate exceeds the birth rate but this is a very conflicted country. I think fertility depends on the education. The more educated a country the less the birth rate.

I think, it is also a matter of discipline. If there are certain education/knowledge, it isn't worth it if there is no discipline.
 The knowledge about family planning is there, the only problem is that, people disobey. They are aware of that issue, however they refused to tend on it.

In this hypothetical scenario, the US. Simply because China lacks the ability to project it's power to the US mainland. And if either of them are stupid enough to start using nukes, the US has many times more of them then China does.

Hmm.... the Chinese ICBMs are not as good as the American ones. But the situation will change if Russia provides them with the latest nuclear-capable ballistic missiles.


Why don't you Ukrainian spammers stay away from mentioning Russia in each and every topic here? For your kind information, the birth rate in Russia is more than the death rate. In Ukraine, it is the other way around.

So Russian trolls react to criticism and are trying to hide that they are Russian. What's more, you manipulated data. The increase of the population even according to official statistics, due to the influx of migrants. But who do believe to Russian statistics?

Re chinese ICBM's:

Please look up the chinese DF-41 which they just stationated at the russian border.
It is a mirv capable of carring up to 10 nuclear warheads with a top speed of Mach 25 and a working range of up to 12.000 km. The fastest known ICBM out of testing which the chinese just targeted at the US (it can't hit russia from that position and europe is no enemy).

It can easily comepete with the russian SS-18.

It is Russian, so trying to persuade myself? The aggressive policy of Russia are all neighbors. Show at least one neighboring state with Russia that says Russia is peaceful? China is no exception. These missiles are against Russia!

I agree with you. Russian pretty strange people. Now Trump is not understandable political game with Putin. I don't understand why he does it, but I think that soon he will play to the impeachment.

The DF-41 is a long range ICBM.
For over a decade the chinese have short and mid range ballistic missiles like the df-21 which are way more accurate stationed near russia. That are the ones russia has to fear.

The newly stationed df-41 are a detterence tool directed against the US.
And the possible reason for the location is that the US cant use air dominance to destroy them because an attack on china in Heilongjiang could be seens as a first strike against russia.

I'm sure that open war between America and China will not. The Americans will try to economically crush the Chinese economy. If this does not work then it may be a war. The prerequisites for the war there .

Nations like China could possibly survive and grow stronger from the experience of an American attack in the style of Shock-and-Awe against the government headquarters. Consider a war conducted similar to the War in Iraq 2003. The Americans could, hypothetically conduct an assault on its regime and topple it in the same way as we did with Iraq. For the Chinese, however, though the buildings may be hollowed, the offices remain. By this I mean that the political structure will remain and they have a ruling class, the Chinese Communist Party, with many who would be capable of filling several roles and replace others once they fall.

Well china is one strong country they don't easily quit and russia is on their side so it's really tough of a country but really the United States will never be beaten by just those countries but really trump is a wise man he will get through this without war i hope so >.< but to truly understand why trump is accusing china a big problem is just to make china fall because its a big country and the most powerful of them and very crowded :) i hope war will not go with it

Trump is a very stupid man. He flirts with Putin that the Russians are not United with the Chinese, but they do not. First, China has territorial claims to Russia, and secondly, the Chinese have long inhabited the far East and only waiting for the signal to join the China.

It will be next to impossible for the United States to defeat a Russia-China alliance. If Trump is wise, he will wage war using proxies rather than declaring an open all out war against these two countries. But then, I don't think that there is a significant chance of any such confrontation occurring in the near future.

Well, the two country namely: united states and china are one of the strongest and bravest country in the world, i dont think if one of them accepts the fact that they lose in war. They both a really strong country but if theres a country would win then of course theres a country who lose too. China also many alliance that will help them in war, also united states also have, both of the country are becoming wiser and wiser so just be friends so that no war, no result to many innocent people will die :)

Unfortunately in politics there is no concept of friendship. In politics there is a concept of temporal interests. Countries such as the US and China's interests do not coincide because the development of one country is due to the decline of another country.

Yes i agree to you haha its kinda joke when i said united states and china should be friends. In US and china, friendship is not part of their vocabulary, this country as well is very hot since they are the richest country, the things they have is very productive and new(e.g.,guns), improving country and more stronger than before

This can very much happen now
the way this president talks about that country
you can just tell he just hates them and all that
they stand for.

C--HH-I--N--AAAHH!

Trump is very much what he says. I don't believe him. Can he not going to fight with China but its not deliberate actions he can provoke to attack China. Although Chinese leaders are intelligence and calmness.

Since Trump has already relented on the 'One China' issue, it seems pretty unlikely now.

Not that sure about it. Trump is very very anti-China. I am afraid that China will provoke North Korea, to retaliate against Trump. That will be bad news for Donald Trump and the US allies in the region (South Korea, Japan, Taiwan.etc).

War is not a solution those leaders of country are just crazy why they want war? If they can fight 1on1 why they want to kill inocent people just simply give them knife and lets see who will be the strongest one and who will keep alive after the knife fight.

War is a bad thing, and nobody is achieving anything in war, the country being destroyed the nature is damaged the citizen suffering with fear, it is a advanced era why don't solved it like a civilized eduacted person, i think people will more appreciated the leader if they can finish an issue without war

Sometimes, there is no other option. If another country invades your home, will you sit back and watch? There are crazy people everywhere and they are very fond of starting new wars. They need to get a taste of their own medicine.

War between US and China will not bring any good to world but will just bring destruction to all of us. There are other ways to solved conflict like having a talk between the two countries.

By 2020 China will be the most power ful country and Donald Trump will not be able to digest it... As a result there will be war between us and China.

war between US and china, only economic war, not military

It can get physical as well. I am not saying that the US is going to directly attack China, but they will do that indirectly using the proxies. It will be the Chinese proxies (North Korea.etc) against the US proxies (Taiwan, Japan.etc).

Any proof?  or some reference?
You can't just tell people that those countries you've mentioned are "proxies". There are no proxies, it's being called as "Ally". It is on different road.
Have you imagine that japan will attack china (or other country connected to china) with the command of US? , lol nope

China earn more than $200 Billion from US, if the war is coming, i don't think China will has any chance to win.

War isn't a solution to prove which country has the most powerful tool innocent people will die because of the greediesness of each country. China is earning or getting billions from US , why they need to start a war for what reason? I beleived is only for the economics and other thing not those military war isn't ?

You can see that Trump is going to force American companies to reduce their activities in all countries. No exception and China. Once that happens China's growth will stop and they may try to revenge us for it. In such a situation, it could start a war.

If a military confrontation between Japan and China happens in the near future, I am 100% sure that the American military will get involved in the warfare (on the Japanese side). That said, Japan doesn't really need help from the US. Despite the popular myths, the Japanese armed forces is much better than the PLA.

Good joke. Do you only get a green card if your are a comedian? Lol

The US spends tens of billions on THAAD in SEA just for fun and giggles.
(And before you get the genius idea China >>>>>>north korea)

I think the competition in trading is not unusual, but the decision to go to war was exceptional, as a wise leader must think about the fate of its citizens because of the case of the war, only the leader of the selfish wants war, I think a lot of good ways to solve the problem, and war is not a good alternative for solving problems

Unfortunately, all leaders tend to have larger ambitions. They always present delusions of grandeur and as soon as they encounter others in the same leader the other methods except the war they have no choice. Moreover, they do not fight and are therefore not afraid to be killed or wounded.

That is not true. Perhaps that was the case a few decades back. But nowadays, the political leaders can't afford to alienate the general population by taking one-sided decisions. The people are more aware about the current affairs and politics, thanks to the internet and social media. It is not possible to control them by hiding the facts.

Trump lol


Btw. With accepting the one china policy the danger of a hot war was for sure lowered.
Good choice of trump to take some steps back.
(I think this is the reason why china enacted a coal embargo to north korea - one hand helps the other)

SCS and trading deficit are still a hot topic though.

That was his tactic. First he unnerved the Chinese by hinting that he may be not honor the one-China policy. This got the Chinese worried and they made secret deals with the Americans over North Korea. In the end, it was a victory for Trump.

Some relevant points to make:

QE 4 is here / coming. Its defense spending. A lot of defense spending heightens tension and promotes conflict. The US & China has had to come to agreements stopping their jet pilots from flipping the bird at each other. That is how close they are flying to each other over the South China Sea area. Conflict is inevitable as economies decline as we have seen throughout history. Maybe we will only see economic or trade wars this time and not a military war - what landmass could US / China fight for? No one will buy the 'we need to protect freedom in X' anymore.


* The PBoC needs jobs and food in order to appease its population. It also needs to adjust its economy to a consumer driven market. Chinese debt has risen from 7trillion to 28 trillion in less than 10 years.

- it needs to keep its economy competitive (cheapish Yuan)
- it needs to control food supply (South China Sea islands in large fishing catchment area, shipping lanes)
- it is facing the 'impossible trinity' (cannot have open capital account, pegged currency, independent interest rates at same time for long).

* The US is in internal upheaval and is both beholden to, and master of the global economy.

- The Trump Administration looks to lean towards an alliance with Russia that would calm the Middle East & destroy Daesh.
- The Obama Administration had pivoted towards China
- The Intelligence Community (CIA) has many Cold Warriors who wish to re-ignite conflict with Russia. They have tried to destroy Trump ('Putin puppet'), taken out Flynn, and destroyed the Obama initiated Syrian peace by bombing Syrian soldiers during ceasefire.
- The US Fed needs to raise rates in prep for another recession but this imports deflation and harms emerging markets, leading to either more currency wars or an economic panic (that could possibly be very bad as global debt is enormous).
- Fed can only hope to raise before a recession hits. Otherwise we are in serious trouble, a financial ELE.
- The globalists really need inflation (to reduce debt). The Chinese own a large amount of UST's, therefore inflation cheapens their UST assets.
- The Trump Admin looks to be more isolationist & protectionist, forcing companies to bring jobs & cash back to America.
- Globalism and free trade has destroyed the middle class (Trumps base) for the past few decades and enriched big corporations.