War between US and China

[sportis]

It's a complicated issue but it seems to me that a trade war between USA and China is not likely to be. Trump said that he wants to change big changes in trading consensus between two countries. Mass media deduced Trump's declarations as trade war. China exports are about one fifth to US market and on the other side China would let yuan to free float and US products will no longer be competitive. At the end both of them will lose more than they expected to gain.

[youdamushi]

Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

Your raising the only important fact about Trump.

USA is a warmonger country. They have never built anything FOR their country but rather AGAINST an enemy.
They need to feel threatened in order to go forth.
That's a pity but that's also a fact. That's why they never have been at peace.

Enemy was Russia. Then it became Middle East. And now Trump points at a new enemy: China.

[criptix]

It's a complicated issue but it seems to me that a trade war between USA and China is not likely to be. Trump said that he wants to change big changes in trading consensus between two countries. Mass media deduced Trump's declarations as trade war. China exports are about one fifth to US market and on the other side China would let yuan to free float and US products will no longer be competitive. At the end both of them will lose more than they expected to gain.

Trump was talking about 40-50% import tariffs for china.
That is pretty extreme.

I totaly agree an economic and/military war between us and china would be bad for the whole world.

But now that trump started to make his promises true (re mexican wall, obamacare, abortion funding) there is definitely the chance he will stay to his words on the china issue.

[Daniel91]

It's a complicated issue but it seems to me that a trade war between USA and China is not likely to be. Trump said that he wants to change big changes in trading consensus between two countries. Mass media deduced Trump's declarations as trade war. China exports are about one fifth to US market and on the other side China would let yuan to free float and US products will no longer be competitive. At the end both of them will lose more than they expected to gain.

Trump was talking about 40-50% import tariffs for china.
That is pretty extreme.

I totaly agree an economic and/military war between us and china would be bad for the whole world.

But now that trump started to make his promises true (re mexican wall, obamacare, abortion funding) there is definitely the chance he will stay to his words on the china issue.

I don't think so.
Trump said many things in his campaign but he already changed a lot.
Regarding China, we have to be aware that China is very important trade partner with America and that China owns a lot of American debt.
So, Trump have no choice but to negotiate with China.
I think that domestic issues are much more important for Trump now than foreign affairs.
Never believe everything what politician promise during campaign

[hayate]

That's why America is always making its dollar on the trend. That's their tactic, to declare war.
And to make the people believe that they are strong.

[bryant.coleman]

Despite popular belief, China is a balanced superpower that would still trade excessively even if Donald Trump's policies get through.

Russia has made alignment offers with a China to open up boundaries, but both may have potential disputes regarding what would get sent through.

The Chinese economy, which is crawling along at the moment will be completely destroyed if Trump introduce tariffs targeting the Chinese products. The United States is the primary market for Chinese manufactured goods and they need an unrestricted access to that market. Russia, or any other country can't replace the market in the US.

[BitSat]

Despite popular belief, China is a balanced superpower that would still trade excessively even if Donald Trump's policies get through.

Russia has made alignment offers with a China to open up boundaries, but both may have potential disputes regarding what would get sent through.

The Chinese economy, which is crawling along at the moment will be completely destroyed if Trump introduce tariffs targeting the Chinese products. The United States is the primary market for Chinese manufactured goods and they need an unrestricted access to that market. Russia, or any other country can't replace the market in the US.

You are right but Chinese working on other markets also even they cannot replace United States but still good for them and they will be no completely destroyed by Trump's any tariffs target because they also need many products from them because no other country can fulfill their demand if Chines out of this Market

[Sithara007]

You are right but Chinese working on other markets also even they cannot replace United States but still good for them and they will be no completely destroyed by Trump's any tariffs target because they also need many products from them because no other country can fulfill their demand if Chines out of this Market

If Trump imposes a tariff on the Chinese goods (say 20%), then that is going to push up the prices of consumer electrical and other goods imported from China. This will make the American products more competitive against the Chinese ones.

[hexitor]

I don't think that there will be a war between USA and China because like the China and the Russia are communist and that Trump do the peace like Poutine.

[SvenBomvolen]

   That part of the world is very interesting in past 20 years, on one side we have USA with strong influence on Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, and on other side Russia, China and North Corea. War between each of this countries will mean start of the next world war.
   China now is completely different story from China 50 years ago, and looks like USA will try to stop that fast grow.

[royalfestus]

I believe Donald trump comment on trade war with China is not realistic because most Chinese goods are very cheap in fact they use to devalues there currency so that it will be affordable for poorer countries. there is one thing american,Germany are not aware off,the Chinese focus more on poorer countries by penetrating  into there market by selling cheaper goods,while Europe and Americans goods are too expensive

Is not about the price of their products, is about their jobs, world market, trade, influences, economy etc. They believe china has taken all these from them. whereas their past leaders, entrepreneurs and investors gave it to them. Trade war is not what is needed now. Another problem is that America doesn't know how many enemies they have gotten now, not only outside but right within themselves.some countries are not even ready to go back to America since the trade with china suits them. I just expect all these to come down after a while, just as brexit is not yearning as before. Then they should look for alternatives than trade war

[fasdorcas]

we just hope that this could not be true because if it happened this could be the beginning of world war 3........

[LegendsRoomLV]

Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china.
China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.

In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions  - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?

There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?

A war with China would instantly create 1 Million US Jobs...... Hopefully they can find a better way than that.

[DrVaribo]

we just hope that this could not be true because if it happen this could be the begining of world war 3........

Can not hope. When Americans voted for Trump they supported the theses of this clown. When Trump declares war on China but he is doing everything to deprive America of the allies. I already know who will lose this war.

[Sithara007]

A war with China would instantly create 1 Million US Jobs...... Hopefully they can find a better way than that.

You need to specify that we are talking about a "trade" war. Yes.... it is going to create a lot of American jobs, provided that the Congress approve tax cuts and other pro-business measures.The chances for a physical confrontation is extremely low. Both China and the US will refrain from attacking first.

[HateEU]

Trade war US vs China can be good but war with soldiers isnt a really good strategy because many pupils are dying and they can only destroy this world.

[criptix]

The PLA are officially preparing for a possible military intervention of the US.
They wrote on their homepage that war could be starting soon and are deploying their weapon systems near russia and south china sea.

[GooCust04]

A war with China would instantly create 1 Million US Jobs...... Hopefully they can find a better way than that.

You need to specify that we are talking about a "trade" war. Yes.... it is going to create a lot of American jobs, provided that the Congress approve tax cuts and other pro-business measures.The chances for a physical confrontation is extremely low. Both China and the US will refrain from attacking first.

Nonsense! How is he going to increase the number of jobs if manufacturing in America much more expensive than in China. He is going to pay Americans as much as the Chinese. He is stupid and knows nothing about the global economy.

[Sithara007]

A war with China would instantly create 1 Million US Jobs...... Hopefully they can find a better way than that.

You need to specify that we are talking about a "trade" war. Yes.... it is going to create a lot of American jobs, provided that the Congress approve tax cuts and other pro-business measures.The chances for a physical confrontation is extremely low. Both China and the US will refrain from attacking first.

Nonsense! How is he going to increase the number of jobs if manufacturing in America much more expensive than in China. He is going to pay Americans as much as the Chinese. He is stupid and knows nothing about the global economy.

There are many reasons behind the higher cost of manufacturing in the United States. The most important are environmental regulations, taxes, export tariffs, minimum wage, Obamacare.etc. Trump is going to remove most of these obstacles.

[Idrisu]

War is a bad idea for everyone.

Simply as there is nothing for anyone to gain by going to war.

If china bombs the united states, who will buy their cheaply made, counterfeit, goods?

China bombing their #1 consumer makes no sense.

If united states bombs china, who will make our cheap ipods?

War is unlikely whatever the fearmongering media says.

 

friend, you are even talking about business what of innocent life that will be lost. The elites benefits during war but the masses suffer. The life principle though by our lord Jesus Christ will be the answer to this our generation. He said " love your enemies and pray for who illy used you" Russian are beating they chest to go into war with American and now china. Were will this evils end! Come lord o lord come.