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Title: Translation of BFL update Post by: smoothie on April 18, 2013, 08:40:10 PM so nothing is wrong with the BFL chips other than they completely missed their power specifications??
This is the biggest bullshit statement ever. The whole point of ordering an ASIC is the power efficiency. Without that the chips are just as useless as doing SHA256 by paper and pencil. Rofl lol omfg haha https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html# Quote from: BFL_Josh 15 April 2013 Update Short update today, more to come in the next day or two, hopefully. We've been working on getting the software and firmware nailed down. Things are mostly stabilized at this point and with our current boards (we do not have the redesigned boards in house yet), power usage exceeds the 1w/GH, unfortunately, but it's much better than anything out by 40 - 50%, at the wall. We are gearing up to start shipping out some dev boards and a few Jalapeno's most likely this week (at least a few dev boards) and then as more chips roll in we'll be shipping out the Jalapeno's. When the new boards land in KC, we'll start shipping Little Singles and Singles at that time. I don't currently have a time frame for those, but I should have something later this week in regards to that. Obviously, the minirig can't fit 1.5 TH/s in a case the size of what we were planning, but we have some interesting solutions with regards to that. Expect and update on there as well, but I did want to let everyone know we have several solutions to solve the minirig issue and we are moving forward on that front. I did want to quash any rumors that there was something wrong with the chips; there isn't. The chips themselves are fine (other than using more power than we expected), the delay is strictly due to having to re-engineer the power system on the boards (which requires a larger PCB redesign to a degree) and refine/streamline our processes for getting chips from silicon to mounted on boards. Things will be rolling along soon, albeit a bit slow at first, and then picking up speed as the whole process is optimized and finalized. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: glendall on April 19, 2013, 04:19:32 PM I sneaked into BFL last night.
Wasn't easy. They have lazers and genetically engineered attack dogs. Took a lot of work but got an actual picture of the new Mini-Rig design. It's a little,little bit off of on the power per hash predictions, and a little larger, but it is still worth at least 300 November '12 bitcoins: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZOLkmMAxodQ/TL8D1P05Q6I/AAAAAAAAADQ/ylXjstWqB1c/s1600/F13-eniac.gif Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: PulsedMedia on April 19, 2013, 04:34:36 PM lol funny. They missed their target, still the most efficient thing in the works :)
This FUD and BFL bashing has gone so funny Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 19, 2013, 06:00:04 PM Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: IMakeComps on April 19, 2013, 06:02:36 PM you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced
Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 19, 2013, 06:03:14 PM you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced Ergo, they met them. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Syke on April 19, 2013, 06:09:33 PM you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced "BitForce SC Jalapeno: a USB powered coffee warmer providing 3.5 GH/s, priced at under $149" That "USB powered" sure looks like a power spec to me. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: creativex on April 19, 2013, 06:26:58 PM you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced You're mistaken. Also there was no competition back then. BFL torpedoed the FPGA market with their premature ASIC vaporware announcement, then further solidified their position as lead vaporware dealer with their unrealistic power simulations. Market manipulation followed up with lies and more lies. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: glendall on April 19, 2013, 07:35:09 PM You know I'd almost be more impressed by BFL if they planned to fail as much as they have; or it was an elaborate profit making scam. But I think it has been an accident and they are just borderline incompetent.
Not that they think they are a scam. But even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Fuzzy on April 19, 2013, 07:44:05 PM even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company. Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock... Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: creativex on April 19, 2013, 08:38:11 PM You know I'd almost be more impressed by BFL if they planned to fail as much as they have; or it was an elaborate profit making scam. But I think it has been an accident and they are just borderline incompetent. Not that they think they are a scam. But even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company. It was a scam from day one. At no point in 2012 did they posses the ability to ship the ASIC mining pre-orders they sold, yet they repeatedly led investors to believe shipping was imminent. Six months after their original shipping date has come and gone there's less guidance now on when product shipments will actually commence. That's not incompetence, it's fraud. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: abbyd on April 19, 2013, 10:28:10 PM even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company. Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock... Their clocks have been in stock for 2214 years! https://i.imgur.com/QlMS97H.jpg Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: DPoS on April 19, 2013, 10:54:15 PM even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company. Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock... Their clocks have been in stock for 2214 years! https://i.imgur.com/QlMS97H.jpg if you include the wattage of the sun to operate that, it isn't very power friendly Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 20, 2013, 12:27:49 AM Quote if you include the wattage of the sun to operate that, it isn't very power friendly Damn, I wish I would've known that before I pre-ordered the Mega. http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/content/images/iphone/stonehenge-iphone.jpg BTW, does your model heat coffee? Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: smoothie on April 20, 2013, 10:46:54 AM Wow thanks for the laughs guys.
BFL should do stand up comedy...they might make a fortune hahahaha Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: chipd on April 20, 2013, 11:02:47 AM Wow thanks for the laughs guys. BFL should do stand up comedy...they might make a fortune hahahaha They are already a big joke. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: PuertoLibre on April 20, 2013, 07:21:27 PM even if they started shipping in big volume tomorrow it will still have been a complete disaster for anyone who ordered anything from this company. Unless you ordered a mug, or a clock... Their clocks have been in stock for 2214 years! https://i.imgur.com/QlMS97H.jpg if you include the wattage of the sun to operate that, it isn't very power friendly Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Micon on April 20, 2013, 07:34:53 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 20, 2013, 09:57:05 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s And if you don't get a refund, Josh's sister will gladly point you the way to BFL's front door: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdhMSEqhfg Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Inaba on April 20, 2013, 09:59:00 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: creativex on April 20, 2013, 10:08:58 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. You should probably start a scammer accusation thread Josh! Curse that Micon! :P He takes in all those pre-order funds, lies about shipping dates, lies about power consumption, rigs BoB bets, lies about charity donations...uh wait...what did Micon do again? Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Minor Miner on April 20, 2013, 10:12:47 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: smoothie on April 20, 2013, 11:24:12 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. I doubt this will ever happen. He would run with customer funds before this ever happens. Josh prove me wrong and take it like a wussy up the ass when the Feds come after you and your BFL entourage. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: DPoS on April 20, 2013, 11:38:16 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. You've been lying since last fall P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Syke on April 20, 2013, 11:42:36 PM Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Sure there is. It's right here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets.html You failed. Pay up. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Inaba on April 20, 2013, 11:57:17 PM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. You've been lying since last fall P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it Please provide proof of your accusations. Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: DPoS on April 21, 2013, 01:59:39 AM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. You've been lying since last fall P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it Please provide proof of your accusations. Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW. so when you endlessly say 'should be shipping in a week' no one should ever believe you? if that's the case, then sure, you haven't been lying Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Bicknellski on April 21, 2013, 02:20:45 AM https://twitter.com/BFL_News/status/318601948678983681
Quote You people can't have it both ways. You say that if we (the customer) paid for mining gear in BTC then request a refund BFL is only required to refund the USD equivalent b/c it was priced in USD. I'll concede that. - wdBTCtrader - 04-07-2013, 01:31 PMThe same holds true with the wager. They announced 1000 BTC they owe 1000 BTC. The double standard some of you hold is amazing to me. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Inaba on April 21, 2013, 04:00:41 AM Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. You've been lying since last fall P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it Please provide proof of your accusations. Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW. so when you endlessly say 'should be shipping in a week' no one should ever believe you? if that's the case, then sure, you haven't been lying There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote. lrn2grmr Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: DPoS on April 21, 2013, 07:27:58 AM There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote. lrn2grmr Holy fuck you are right!! You never committed to anything except being a total douche who's miserable with projections... you'd think you were getting paid to be a project manager but you were just getting paid to keep pre-orders coming in! Fantastic job - well done How's that MiniRig doing? Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Inaba on April 21, 2013, 04:29:01 PM Nope, I did not commit to that, either. When I commit to something, you'll know it.
PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise). Battin' 0 here partner. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Syke on April 21, 2013, 04:36:17 PM Nope, I did not commit to that, either. When I commit to something, you'll know it. When are you going to follow through on your commitments? https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets.html Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: peetah on April 21, 2013, 04:42:32 PM Earthquake in Sichuan. Could do with a bit of love from charitable organizations.
Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: k9quaint on April 21, 2013, 04:51:03 PM Given a perfect track record of promises kept, I would fully trust any warranty BFL offered on their product.
Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: tigerfree on April 21, 2013, 04:51:19 PM Josh when you will ship our product !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: pizza on April 21, 2013, 04:55:15 PM You can tell what a moron Josh is also. Works for free in a job where he will probably get a heart attack in the next year from all his raging.
Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 21, 2013, 06:57:46 PM Nope, I did not commit to that, either. When I commit to something, you'll know it. PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise). Battin' 0 here partner. A Project Manager reports directly to the Chief Operating Officer, in this case Josh. I'm not sure who the PM is at BFL, but if there isn't one, then Josh, as COO, takes on that role as well. Either way, since the PM reports to the COO, the COO is aware of everything that happens in which the PM is in control of. If the COO doesn't know what's happening, then there's major problems at BFL. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: John Self on April 21, 2013, 07:03:51 PM There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote. lrn2grmr How's that MiniRig doing?Have you seen this interview with minirig buyers? You'll need subtitles. http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE (http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE) Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: creativex on April 21, 2013, 09:23:16 PM He didn't contract the company. because their responses were (and remain) unprofessional uncalled for amateur Cross post. Amateur is right. Here's the COO of BFL at his best. Taking zero responsibility for anything ever. Josh Zerlan on why you should get a refund from Butterfly Labs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWJf345G0s&feature=youtu.be&t=2m16s Micon, Where is the bet where Inaba bet 1000 btc and why is he not wearing a scammer tag? There isn't one. Bryan Micon refused to bet on his statements. His claim, much like Frankie's, was that BFL is a scam and will never ship a product. When pressed to back up those words, he refused and instead (again, like Frankie) offered different terms where BFL's power and ship dates would be in the immediate future... clearly showing that Bryan Micon is a liar, since he makes a claim, then claims to be a gambler, then refuses to bet on his claim without all sorts of ludicrous caveats. Bryan Micon, the consumate scammer. Sells a failed poker system that he knows doesn't work and is the laughing stock of the poker world, just like his reputation. You've been lying since last fall P Gage, looks like SC girls make great wives.. and yes I can heat coffee and fry and egg on it Please provide proof of your accusations. Your conjecture or wishful thinking does not constitute proof, BTW. so when you endlessly say 'should be shipping in a week' no one should ever believe you? if that's the case, then sure, you haven't been lying There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote. lrn2grmr There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote. lrn2grmr Holy fuck you are right!! You never committed to anything except being a total douche who's miserable with projections... you'd think you were getting paid to be a project manager but you were just getting paid to keep pre-orders coming in! Fantastic job - well done How's that MiniRig doing? Nope, I did not commit to that, either. When I commit to something, you'll know it. PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise). Battin' 0 here partner. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179939.msg1898552#msg1898552 Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: smoothie on April 22, 2013, 05:39:34 AM Nope, I did not commit to that, either. When I commit to something, you'll know it. PS - I'm not a project manager and never have been (paid or otherwise). Battin' 0 here partner. A Project Manager reports directly to the Chief Operating Officer, in this case Josh. I'm not sure who the PM is at BFL, but if there isn't one, then Josh, as COO, takes on that role as well. Either way, since the PM reports to the COO, the COO is aware of everything that happens in which the PM is in control of. If the COO doesn't know what's happening, then there's major problems at BFL. Josh isn't that smart to know this PG. ::) Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 22, 2013, 08:39:50 AM There's a reason "should" is the first word of your quote. lrn2grmr How's that MiniRig doing?Have you seen this interview with minirig buyers? You'll need subtitles. http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE (http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE) That spoof brings tears to my eyes each time I view it. Title: Re: Translation of BFL update Post by: abbyd on April 22, 2013, 09:29:31 AM Have you seen this interview with minirig buyers? You'll need subtitles. http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE (http://youtu.be/_ERE4uiufqE) That spoof brings tears to my eyes each time I view it. Wasn't sure it existed, but a quick youtube search for "Hitler BFL" struck gold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3SLjfYD_wU "Don't worry about ROI, we can be BTC cam whores". LOL. Sorry if overposted... |
