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so we all know that there are many picks services around especially here in the forum
let's share the experience here about the tipsters , their services , pricing , ROI ...etc
cause lately I was searching about good tipsters with good ROI and low pricing , and I thought that such a topic should be available in the forums


Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   322                                         -2.718              -123.695

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    84                                          -3.046                 -76.150

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            21                                          -6.800                 -34.000          

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          152                                        +10.616             +106.160         ( Stopped tracking )     
 
tipstersclub       ( MCee )                                           230                                         -69.925               -396.896         ( Stopped tracking )      
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       399                                         -165.392              -946.044        ( Stopped tracking )     
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      47                                          -7.974               -50.340

tipstersclub          ( Craig )                                            10                                           -0.521              -10.420

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                           117                                         +46.520            +1,220.210

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                 118                                          +48.317             +513.512
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                       300                                          +52.323           +1,088.750

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)   876                                           +104.977          +2,137.451

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200   ( Stopped Tracking )

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
  
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          66                                                -1.250             -35.570
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Tipstrr    ( Top Rated Jumps , Tips , Value )                    282                                               -1.574          -181.433    ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr ( HODL )                                                           107                                              +14.854            +326.788         
 
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Sites to avoid , ( fake win rate or worthless low odds picks )
matchplug.com

I will start by giving a review for premiumtipping.com
this site used to have a thread here in the forums but it seems that they are not active anymore
anyways the site has a monthly membership which costs 9.99$ , but  I wouldn't recommend joining it and wasting your money
in my experience most of their matches have fake odds , so you would see that they are picking a match with X1.80 for example but you won't find even close odds to that , the funny thing that they post the site that they found the odds for and I was never able to cach the same odds even in the sites that they mention and even after like 15 mins from the time that they posted the picks

What tipster services do you recommend?

And why is this thread dead? Is this subject being discussed elsewhere?

Do you recommend paying for Joca97's VIP Picks?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

And CarlesPuyol's picks?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1447921.0

Anyone has a better recommendation?

Both of them were good tipster that forum had so far, or maybe you can see on Directbet.eu tipster competition thread hall of fame for champion and ask personally any member that their name was post by admin as winner/champion. Sportsbet.io also had such competition but i cant find they past and recently winner..

From what i see, most this forum member that participated on both competition above were Good and better gambler, so they can give personal service to you..

Giving low odds is not tipster job by adding high strike rate.

Mostly good tipster give 99% tips above 1.8 odds. Below 1.8 odds I don't think is tipster they are just fooling community.

What service(s) do you recommend?

It looks like he is giving free VIP pick every week if you join nitrogensports under him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.msg18436882#msg18436882

Also his picks looks promising because he is constantly updating his thread for last 2 year with his picks, so looks legit. You can try him but you have to be careful about bet size and odds.  

I've tried paying for Joca97's picks before and I can say that it wrecked my bankroll for sports betting because I had more losses than wins at first it was good but then losses came right after, he gives free picks once your bet lose. My best recommendation is to not pay for picks and just do your own research.

Exactly.

Honestly we don't need some tips especially in sports betting. What's that for in the first place? Well for others it's a reference but I don't consider them as a helpful one without any analyzations involved. Also, why they are being paid for that? Money making? Nah. I remember back then I have some conservation with some tipster but can't explained why they have a picks like that. See others are making it random.

Also some of the picks Im seeing is playing along at below @1.5 odds. It's that what we called a great pick?

If we know the sports carefully or let's say we are enthusiast of that, we can make an analyzation with our self rather than relying on a pick.

Isn't it very time consuming?

What kind of analysis do you do? History, last games, what else?

Do you analyse european football?

What are the best websites to find information?

This is a good topic and I am also just starting out with the sport betting. I don't want to pay for tips , premium or Vip which I see many tipsters around the forum give them for money. Aren't there any good free tipsters in the forum, honestly I don't care much about the odds(1.7 and up) as long as the tipster has a consistency and good winning rate ?

Any sports tracker can give you heaps of statistical data like past results, player performances, H2H stats etc. The more famous ones are Flashscore and Sofascore but there are also more specialized ones focusing on one particular sport which can give you even more detailed data so in short everything you would need to make your own picks is available at your fingertips and you don't need other people making the tips for you!

you're absolutely true that with see all things you mentioned above i think this is enough to determine which sports would you choose and the best pick for the particular sports so there is no necessary to buy tipsters or anything else because all you need you can get from those sites

It only takes me half an hour to an hour max to do my research. I use flashscore to check the previous matches and the different records of each teams. I don't analyze european football but I follow some nba. I use rotoworld to check nba injuries and visit the sportsbook subreddit to join the discussion or to see what i'm missing out on.

if you really aiming to win you will do your own research those who buy tips are more prone in losing their money its not because the tipster will provide wrong pick but you will continuously relied from those people, better yet do your own research and use those tools that has been provided to analyze your own pick.

I agree, when you pay for predictions your profits go down at the same time only if you win but if you lose it's like losing a bet twice. It's really not advisable to buy picks unless you have money to lose. Some users i've been watching make their own model to determine who's the winning team.

it's been a long time since I posted here , but since I tried another picks site I decided to post my review here ( sadly another negative site )

the site is sportspredicition.org , they claim that they are profitable and have over 70% win rate but that's not true
here are the numbers
so far there are 478 picks . the record is  269-8-201 (win-push-loss ) so the win rate is a little over 57% ( the win rate isn't important actually but they claimed that they have over 70% win rate )

the odds are available for their last 336 matches , and they are negative -13.03 units which means their ROI is -3.88%

so save your money if you are planning to try this

today I have a review for betting-analyst.com , I have been with this site for almost a month now and here are some stats
so far I have been really satisfied with their horse racing elite package , I had followed 95 picks so far till I joined and profited 14.96 units giving me 15.747% ROI
the total track for the tipster is 132 picks with 19.14% ROI , so his record is solid and you can see all his previous 132 picks

they have a package called paid buffet and this package hasn't been doing well , I have no idea if this negative results are just bad run but so far all their picks are negative except the french soccer ligue picks

so if you want to buy this service you should know that soccer , NBA and tennis are mostly negative but the horse racing is solid

I bought yesterday a subscription for bookieinsiders.com , will try them and give you my review even I read a lot of positive reviews still want to try them before I vouch their service


do you guys like such threads ?? I'm thinking about updating the first post so gamblers can know what is positve and what's negative
should I pin the results in the first post to make it easier ??

waiting for your opinions 

today I have a review for matchplug.com , was reading in quora and found someone mentioning them
the site is just terrible , of course they promise high returns and high win rate but they aren't profitable and haven't even tried to place a single bet on their picks
basically the site is full with low odds picks , as low as x1.1 and they post like 15-30 picks everyday so the site not worth it and you should avoid

starting tomorrw I will start posting the stats in the OP so everyone can see the stats in the first post , will start update weekly or monthly still not sure
and based on my experience you can see if the tipsters are profitable or not

please note that till now these subscriptions aren't sponsored by any site and I'm paying my own money to test them and provide the info here so hopefully this can lead me and you to profit in case you want to buy subscriptions in the site

if you know any tips service please let me know it so maybe I can join it if the price is reasonable

Exactly, those people who provide a low odds seems looking for an easy picks that actually anybody can do it , a real tipster giving out a high odds that nobody can predict and do it repeatedly with good track record and high win percentage, otherwise yeah they play safe to make a high win percentage only , I won't trust that kind tipster anymore.

OP has been updated with some sites stats , I stopped following betting-analyst paid buffet section cause they have been negative in the last month or so and I don't want to risk my bankroll till they prove positive again but I will keep following their horse racing picks since they have been positive so far ( variance is a hoe though in horse racing  :D )

if you are a tipster that offers paid or free picks feel free to contact me so I can track your record

to provide predictions / tips that might be accurate. is by specifying one of the sports venues. or in other words, focusing on one gamble. in order to provide a greater chance of winning. may be predictions can be viewed from the history masalalu. but all that can change along with the player's line up and the conditions of the team.

Good thread SyGambler. I appreciate what you are trying to do here.

I actually prefer sites which give good game analyses and let you draw your own conclusions about the tip. The example is following site http://www.dvoznak.com/ (http://www.dvoznak.com/). This page is in Croatian, sorry for that. Google translate should help if someone wants to take a look. I check that one daily as a part of research before playing the ticket. If somebody knows about a similar service, preferably free...

thank you trofo , I'm trying my best to give people the information they needed in case they want to invest in tipsters
so far the horse racing tips costs around 100 euros a month , but bookieinsiders tips are way cheaper than betting-analyst and they are proavbly profitable since they use a 3rd party tracker and they have over 3000 picks for each sport in track

I'm kinda having troubles with the site you mentioned so if you can provide me with details and record I will add them
so far I'm focusing on betting-analyst and bookieinsiders since no one from the tipsters here is showing his recored ( probably all are negative here )

I may buy a subscription webetyouwin.com in the next month or so , but now trying to grow my capital at first and so far it's positive

Hi,

there is one I would like to mention, it is Club GOWI (easily findable via Google).

I subscribed to Club GOWI long time ago actually, back in 2014 and for a short period. I had great results.
The guy sent his picks everyday at 10:00 am (UK time).

His picks are really well thought.
The main issue though was to reach the odds. The guy has so many subscribers that the odds drop a few seconds after he sends his picks (I suspect Pinnacle to have a subscription so that they can drop their odds before it's too late).


Also, I strongly recommend secretbettingclub.com (http://secretbettingclub.com/affiliates//idevaffiliate.php?id=386) because they evaluate tipsters in a very transparent and fair way / ranking them by criteria such as:

• transparency of results
  punctuality for the tips sent
  odds easy to be matched
  etc.

(and of course profitable or not).

This service really opened my eyes back in 2014 and that's how I found club GOWi back then. Even though I followed another tipsters later on (Football Investor) who had a bad run, I still learned a lot about sports betting. I strongly recommend.

thanks for your input , I checked the first site and read that he mentioned 6% ROI but since you are saying that the odds are dropping a lot after he post then I doubt that it can profitable
maybe I will check the other site cause it seems their pricing is fair enough , do they accept crypto ??

You are welcome.
About the second website, I am guessing yes but it's quite a while ago now that I have not been using it (mainly for lack of time, personal stuff and family but I was satisfied with it before).

About Club Gowi that I was mentioning earlier, here is an example of newsletter (by sharing it I am doing nothing wrong because this one was sent for free yesterday):


Saturday March 3rd


Next issue will be sent during the first week of April.

There were two free newsletters sent last month, they included eight betting suggestions, seven of which won at average odds of 2.50 (2.73, 3.30, 2.75, 2.25, 2.33, 1.95, 2.19) ! That is not going to happen this month as there is only two previews included, but it will still serve as a sample of what the daily newsletter produces.

If any of got involved in those games last month and there was no real reason why you should, as they are only meant to give a feel for the service, but if you did and/ or wanted to see more, there are a series of offers below which give savings of up to 73% on a standard monthly clubgowi subscription.


Contents today:


1) Month ahead.

2) WTA Tennis.

3) clubgowi sample preview.



1) Month ahead:


All the European leagues are in full swing and will be for another 3-4 months yet, but two of our "summer" leagues are now underway too, or about to be with Japanese football starting last month and MLS tomorrow. JL1 is probably clubgowi's most popular league amongst subscribers, always eagerly awaited and has a huge following. We also have Champions and Europa League fooball, all our "winter" leagues and other sports too ( see tennis below) including PGA golf where we have had back to back winners in the last two weeks.


2) WTA Tennis:


We got off to a good start at the Australian Open and there will be a strong hard court emphasis to the clubgowi tennis coverage this season ,we still have nine more tournaments and 14 weeks of the sport to come this year, including both the Indian Wells (starts next week) and Miami Open events this month. The five events covered since Wimbledon last year, all hard court tournaments, have seen 53 suggestions produce a ROI of +26.89%.


3) clubgowi sample previews:


Thursday March 1st


PGA Tour: WGC - Mexico Championship
 

This will be held at Club de Golf Chapultepec in Naucalpan, just northwest of Mexico City for the second year running, the city is at high altitude (2,300 m) and we really need a golfer who is used to the conditions and has done well in them before. We usually discuss altitude and the effects on sportsmen a couple of times per year, that is normally in more physical events, but it is the flight of the ball in golf which will be the talking point this week. The tennis tournament in Madrid is often cited as one influenced by altitude, the Spanish capital is the highest in Europe , but only 667m above sea level, so you can imagine the difference that players will be dealing with here.
The thinner air makes shots travel farther, maybe between 10-15%, but will also fly lower, data collector TrackMan says that a typical 5-iron shot hit by a PGA Tour golfer who normally has a high ball flight (like most pros) will have a carry distance of about 195 yards and peak at 106 feet above the ground. At the WGC-Mexico Championship, that same shot will have a carry distance of 223 yards and will peak at 95 feet. That combination of added length and a lower ball flight results in shots that land with 4 mph more ball speed and an 8-degree shallower landing angle. In other words, that 5-iron is coming in lower and hotter, so stopping it on the green will be much harder.

Paul Casey is a clubgowi favourite he (far too) rarely wins but is ultra consistent and adds to his pension fund pretty much every time he tees up.My notes ahead of the 2017 season ending Tour Championship spoke about all of that, how good he is, how well we had done following him, but that until he got over the finish line again, he should not be backed to actually win an event ............



Talking of favours, how many has Paul Casey done us ? Most recent was two tournaments ago at the Dell when I wrote ..............


For today, I will finish with a few words about Paul Casey, he has turned into one of the most consistent golfers on Tour and is racking up a fortune without winning too often, he has earned well over $3m this year and $21m + in his career on Tour. The British golfer is 9-6-12-22-10-26-5-11-5-13-5 in his last 11 starts, never worse than 26th and top 15 nine times.

He holds his form very well once he finds it and has served us well in a number of big events, he was 2nd in this event last year and it plays to his strengths and he is very well placed in key stat categories, which players who go deep here need to thrive in. Most important of those is "strokes gained in approach shots", he was 3rd in that in 2015, but had to withdraw here, last year he was 11th and finished 2nd, this year he comes into this event again ranked #3 on Tour in that category and has played more rounds than the other top 6 and given that, he could stake a claim for the #1 position. Last year in the playoff series he went 31-2-2-4 and as I started these notes, he is hard to shake off his game once he finds a groove. He is expecting a child around the time of the Tour Championship, whether he will play there or not, I do not know, but that should further concentrate his mind for the next two events at least. Casey has to go close this week, he is 2.10 for top 20, 3.0-3.30 to finish top 10 and 5.5-6.5 to record his 4th top 5 in six starts and back to back here and incredibly, in his 5th playoff series event in a row ! That has to be the call , but all three markets offer value.

He landed that top 5 bet @ odds of 6.5 and is now looking to win his second ever PGA event.

I would be happy to see him do so, very happy, I think it is long, long overdue and fully deserved, but cannot side with him today. Casey is a money making machine, but has, I think, finished top 5 on 15 occasions since his last and only win in the US, if he was 5th-7th going into today, I would be all over him like a rash to finish top 5 but I am not sure about winning from the front and he will be under intense pressure . He is a new father which usually helps and doesn't need the money, but the win today if it comes along with the FedEx bonus could be worth $11.6m and you could probably add another $10m in sponsorship deals and bonus payments and that is not a normal sum to be at stake over 18 holes  especially when you have not won in the US for 8 years and he has lost two playoffs in the interim.

Casey shot a Sunday 73 there , highest amongst anyone inside the top 16 to finish 5th, if he had gone into that round in 10th, he would proably have fired 68 to finish the same 5th ! The British golfer has now turned 40, passing that milestone birthday might actually help and it is not impossible he will win this year and if one comes, like London buses, a second will most likely be right behind ! Casey has played well at altitude in Europe, with several top ten finishes at Crans-sur-Sierre in the European Masters and the set up at Chapultepec has been descibed as very european. Casey played all four WGC events last season finishing 16-9-5-11 , the 16th place came here, but he shot a third best score of the weekend, clearly learned a lot as the tournament progressed and can take that knowledge into this week and any improvement should see him top ten as a minimum.

He is also in better form, arriving here last year on the back of a run of 21-12-39-16, this year 7-11-8-49 with the Genesis event (last time out this year) not really suiting him. Since the first major of 2017 Casey has teed up in 17 US Tour events, made the cut in all 17, finished top 20 in 13 and top 5 in 5 of the last 12 and is just about the most consistent golfer out there. He is almost always ranked inside the top ten on Tour for strokes-gained tee-to-green which is seen as the key stat on this course. Casey is also a very hard worker and tough on himself and knows he should have won last year, he apologised to his caddy for not winning the Tour Championship and bonus, which would have made his bag carrier and friend $1m + and the two are said to be highly motivated and confident about 2018. We are WAY ahead on our dealings with Casey and we cannot let him go unbacked this week.



1.5 units Paul Casey to finish top 10 ............3.50-3.75 general quote.



Coupe de France: Caen- Olympique Lyonnais


We have sided with Lyon in the cups recently backing them in the Europa League and last round of this competition ahead of which my notes went a lot like this ..........



Cup games in France are far more open than league fixtures and produce more goals, the last six seasons have seen 17 all Ligue 1 clashes and, ten of those (59%) have gone "over", with another five producing two goals and three of those having another one or more in extra time. We have two today in Montpellier- Lyon and Metz- Caen , both of which are priced at 2.0 + for three or more goals and each probably offers a little value. It is the former which interests me, the two teams have already met here recently in the other domestic cup competition, with Montpellier winning 4-1 just before Christmas which should give the hosts confidence and have the visitor out for revenge. I was big on the host for that and wrote ahead of the contest how I felt OL did not need further involvement in that League Cup.....

Lyon might see things differently, but I cannot really see a case for them needing further involvement in this competition. They have reached the knockout stage of the Europa League, which has already meant an additional six games and they are one of the three clubs chasing those two Champions League spots we discussed yesterday (see the Monaco notes). That is a very big deal for them, they played Champions League football for an incredible 14 straight seasons until 2013-14, but have missed out in 3/5 campaigns since, including this and desperately want to return to a competition where they almost feel a place is theirs by right. Lyon host one of the other top 4 on Sunday and Marseille also happen to be amongst their biggest rival's, they know today will be tough, having already drawn at home to Montpellier in the league last month and I feel they will focus on the bigger picture. Rafael is suspended, Pape Cheikh Diop injured, but head coach Bruno Genesio has made it clear that today will be a good opportunity to rotate his squad and he ended his press conference with these words " I want to name the best team possible to beat Marseille". That's Marseille not Montpellier !

The hosts are very comfortable in 7th , but can have few upward ambitions in the league beyond 5th and can well afford, perhaps need, to go deep in one of the domestic cup competitions.  They are at home to basement club Metz at the weekend and will surely give tonight their best shot, they are without a couple of starters, one is down to injury, they other is a related precaution, but that should not overly influence their motivation to win, which has to be greater than OL's.

A Champions League spot has to remain a priority, but the last thing Lyon need right now is another loss, as, after wins over PSG in the league and Monaco in this competion things looked very rosy for them, but back to back losses to Bordeaux and Monaco in the league have damaged  CL ambitions and left them playing catch up with ASM and Marseille. They need three points at home to Rennes in a couple of days time, but I would also argue their pride and confidence has been bruised and they need a result and performance tonight just to steady everything down. The last loss was incredibly painful, they led 2-0 in the Principality before allowing Monaco to equalise in the first half, but the hosts then had Keita Balde sent off before the break and subsequently lost Radamel Falcao to injury and Lyon should have just coasted home, but it was ASM who scored the late winner and OL felt not just crestfallen , but humiliated . The President even went on to Lyon TV to speak about the loss and said he felt the players were overconfident and he did not appear happy at all. I expect a reaction, but Lyon are conceding too freely ( 17 in 10 starts) and "giving away" a lot of goals......conceding six penalties since Christmas.

Montpellier usually build their game on a strong defence, but they are struggling at the back now too and have given up 10 goals in their last four starts, as many as they conceded in their first 17 Ligue 1 games this season. So we have two teams who are shipping goals, with a recent meeting producing five, playing in a competition where we expect most to play with greater freedom. Lyon are treating this far more seriously than the Coupe de la Ligue fixture and this suddenly feels like a big game for them in terms of how good this season could be. The hosts look very short in holding/central midfield positions suddenly and whilst I do think we will see goals, odds on "over" have dropped slightly asI have been typing and the more I think about this, the more I like OL. Both to score with an away win is my suggestion.

That was a pretty good preview if I say so myself and OL won 2-1 which was a bonus ! Their league form has fallen away and they have dropped too many points from winning positions and catching either Marseille or Monaco looks a tall order, as such, I think they will be motivated to progress tonight and in the Europa League and anyway, need to start to refind their consistency and any win will also help a Ligue 1 push, if it is to come. Normally we can expect more goals in these cup ties ( see above) and the last two league meetings between these clubs in this fixture have been wide open affairs, Lyon winning 2-1 here in November (Caen hit the woodwork twice), Caen winning 3-2 last season (Lyon also twice being denied by the woodwork !). I was going to be all over the "over" tonight as I do not trust the vistor defensively, but the weather was a concern and it will be very cold and wet in Caen today and then I saw the team news.....

Mariano Diaz, Nabil Fekir and Rafael did not travel to Caen with the Lyon squad, but keeper Anthony Lopes returns after missing his first league game of the season at the weekend. Diaz and Fekir have 31 league goals and nine assists (some overlap) between them, which is a massive contribution to 57 scored in total.

Before we rush to back the home side .......... Caen have Romain Genevois , Jordan Nkololo, Damien Da Silva, Adama Mbengue, Vincent Bessat and Youssef Aït Bennasser sidelined with injury and head coach  Patrice Garande also spoke about a virus at the club, several others have been carrying very high temperatures and three of those are included in the squad, but have been laid low and unable to do much training at all and these comments from Garande were perhaps telling:  "I have a lot of uncertainties, including sick players, they have fever, they have no legs. "We do not take any risk with the physical integrity of the players, we still have games behind, the end of the season is not tomorrow or Strasbourg (weekend league game)."   

Seven of their 16 outfield players have made the equivalent of five first team appearances or less , they are very short of experienced options, certainly from the bench and given the illness situation, we do not know how strong some of those who might be called upon will be.

Nabil Fekir has missed two away league games this season for OL, they won both 5-0 (Nice and Troyes) ! Of course Diaz played up top and did score in each, but Memphis Depay notched five goals and Traore and Cornet contributed, the trio will all welcome the opportunity to be the main focus of play and to impress and maybe even thrive in the absence of the big two and will be facing a weakened opponent.


1.5 units Olympique Lyonnais -0.75 ball 2.28 asian line.


I do not normally like to use league stats for cup games, which have a different dynamic, but today they feel pertinent, Caen are weakest at home through the middle third (31st-60th min) of games, when they concede over 64% of goals, Lyon have a +16 road goal difference, that is +15 in the first hour, + 1 over the final 30 minutes, Caen are usually strongest through the final 15 when they have  a 5-0 record here, but we can today, given their situation, expect energy levels to decrease more than usual late in the contest and the host not to make the most of their usual up tempo finish.


Caennais : Brice Samba (g), Rémy Vercoutre (g) - Frédéric Guilbert, Ismaël Diomandé, Alexander Djiku, Florian Le Joncour, Yoël Armougom, Durel Avounou - Baïssama Sankoh, Jessy Deminguet, Julien Féret, Stef Peeters, Jan Repas - Ivan Santini, Enzo Crivelli, Ronny Rodelin, Hervé Bazile, Timo Stavitski.


Lyonnais : Anthony Lopes (g), Mathieu Gorgelin (g) - Kenny Tete, Marcelo, Mouctar Diakhaby, Jérémy Morel, Fernando Marçal, Ferland Mendy - Lucas Tousart, Tanguy Ndombélé, Jordan Ferri, Houssem Aouar, Pape Cheikh Diop - Maxwel Cornet, Memphis Depay, Amine Gouiri, Bertrand Traoré, Myziane Maolida.


I hope you can appreciate from the previews above what we are trying to do in terms of giving readers options for today and beyond and also "in running" with often (usually) detailed analysis.

Good Luck.

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So as you can see, this guy is a hard worker.
I know all subscribers won't read the full analysis before placing bets, because as I said the odds drop quickly (unfortunately).
I will see how the bets of this week-end fair (especially Lyon). 

thanks a lot for sharing , if you are willing to place bets with their picks feel free to send me your stats and I will post them
if the odds are really dropping quickly and over 5% I feel like the picks will become more risky since we are missing the early value

anyways still tracking the sites in OP and addiing degensignals which is a free telegram group running by Theo Goodman , he is one of the well known guys in bitcoin community too

Yes mate, that's why I stopped following Club Gowi back in 2014, because his odds were very hard to match. Especially in small leagues.
I remember he sent (very good) picks on J-League (Japan) but these markets are too small, and the quoted odds were 0.15 higher than what it was possible to match.

I would recommend to follow him only for short term if you have for instance Marathon bet (I am confident you will win long term but Marathon bet will limit your stakes).

OP was updated , here are the total stats

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     122                                           +4.965
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                     43                                           +3.685
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                      13                                          +0.175

horse racing been dead in the last week due to weather so there was no picks , picks was resumed today and bets will be placed on betting analyst picks
I started tracking degen signals which is a free service on telegram running by Theo Goodman , he mainly uses bitcoinrush to bet so you can find the odds there
followed only 4 picks so far so won't add it to op now , will add it when it has 10 picks followed or so but you can find it on telegram and as I said it's free

feel free to recommend me such services if the price is reasonable

Now that I think about it, there is a solid horse racing tipster named Northern Monkey. I quote this tipster here because it was recommended by Secret Betting Club, which is usually a good sign. I remember taking a free subscription of one week and played some of his tips on Betfair Exchange, and he is definitely good. Of course a week of tips is not enough.
I did not subscribe because I don't have access to most UK bookmakers outside Betfair Exchange, but I am confident this service is a good one.

I dont know how i missed this thread before,nice idea on the thread

it would be nice if you can add all active members that post picks to the OP so people can see in total how many tipsters are there,maybe even to add a pool too see who they like the most :)

I agree as being one of those great tipster here inside the forum, Joca's idea will simply place every tipsters name here and see how great are their status, aside from looking for those site the person itself can really add good tips and also provide some guides and basis why they think that the pick have the advantage against their opponents, thanks again OP for taking your time and sharing it here. good luck

I tried googling it but couldn't find the site if you have a link for it feel free to post it and I may check it
so far for horse racing I'm only following betting analyst , they said that the tipster was able to profit 30 seasons in a row and so far I'm in profit even the ROI is a little bit less than expected
I heard about a guy called omaha racing , he offer crazy high ROI and I read a lot of good feedback about him so I may check him if he takes bitcoin as a payment method


hey Joca , glad you passed by
the thing about this thread is that I place bets on all the picks in the op so I'm also betting my money not only tracking
if I started tracking everyone that means I have to risk more money but in the future I may add a watch list where I only watch how the tipsters are doing without betting my money until they provide a profit on like 200 matches count

if your premium betting site is ready I will gladly track your premium picks if the price isn't high
so far I'm paying 100 euro a month for betting analyst racing and around 60 euros for bookieinsiders thats why I'm only tracking what I'm betting on since the picks are costing me my money and I'm placing bets with my capital too

Just found it http://www.northernmonkeypunter.co.uk (sorry earlier I was on my phone and got lazy).
Betting analyst is quite well known I think, it should be reliable.

Also in soccer, I am not sure what to think of the Fink Tank System but according to the secret betting club it is also a good service > https://secretbettingclub.com/blog/category/fink-tank/ this quite surprises me since it makes money from big markets (English Premier League for example).

thank you very much for the link , checked the site and it looks amazing with great ROI
I sent the tipster an email asking him if he takes bitcoin cause I can't pay with paypal since it doesn't support my country and waiting for his reply in case he said yes I will start tracking his picks

about the fink tank system honestly I couldn't understand how it works exactly , but so far bookie insiders soccer picks are doing good and they have track for over 3000 matches and they have 7% ROI so I guess we should do fine following them

https://www.bettinggods.com/

Where's the catch here? They are changing tipsters every month! So when some tipster is doing a bad month or two, they remove him. everything looks transparent since results are online. But a constant change of tipsters shows that they are not very honest!

I checked the site and as I see they have a lot of tipsters which makes tracking if they are total profitable or not extremly hard
of course there will be some profitable tipsters since there are over 25 tipsters but it's shady since it's really hard to tell who to follow and who to not
tried googling reviews and couldn't see positive reviews about them so I will skip them and focus on the proven profitable tipsters

check out this review
http://smartsportstrader.com/betting-gods-review-scam/

My site took a set back because some people scamed me,but im giving away vip picks through telegram so if you buy the picks you will get pm`ed every day with a few of them
i sell 30 picks for 120$

you can even add my telegram username to your list where people can contact me about the picks :)

whats the  total record so far , are you tracking the results through a 3rd party software ??
would like to know the stats since I'm betting 25-50 euros on events , and with 4$ per pick pricing this may not turn so good for me cause the ROI should be like 10% just to break even
I may go for higher stakes if I see the record is good

I didnt keep track of winnings or losing,but i have been betting 0.10 btc for a long time already and not im in profit +6.31 btc
that is a good amount

well thats good since you are in profit overall but can't afford your picks with my current bankroll
I have 2500 euros dedicated for sportsbetting and picks and trying to build it up slowly using picks that tipsters in the op posts
30 picks for 120$ is so risky for my bankroll but when I double my bankroll I may go for your picks too mate

hopefully you start tracking too , this will be better for you and for your customers

OP has been updated with the new stats , I have added degen signals which is a free picks telegram group so you can join it if you like to follow the process and don't want to pay for picks

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     130                                           +1.665
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                     59                                           +8.085
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                      23                                          +0.725
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                       8                                           -0.440


my internet was really poor in the last 3 days so couldn't catch up with all the picks , ended missing the winning horse racing picks and betting on the losing ones but in the long run we should do fine , same in degen signals ended missing a couple of the winning picks but also should be fine in the long run

contacted northernmonkeypunker to buy his service using bitcoin but he still hasn't replied yet so if he approved my request I will start tracing his service too

will update op every Saturday , Sunday or Monday
 
stay profitable guys  :D

OP has been updated with the new stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     147                                           -4.355
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                     75                                           -0.117
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                      45                                          +1.690
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                     11                                          +3.340

been a tough week for racing and soccer , but I'm sure this will turn over in the next month or so since the tipsters are historically profitable
will add Miha8 tracking to the thread once I have 10 picks followed or so , he offers both paid and free picks and I will be betting on both to see how this will go

I'm thinking of not adding any other tipster till I reach 75-100 units profit total , hopefully this won't take more than 3 months but probably it will take more
let's see how the run will be in the coming weeks  :)

Op has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     170                                          +10.725
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                     75                                           -0.117
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                      55                                          +3.758
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                     12                                          +2.340

horse racing was amazing in the past week , in fact yesterday betting analyst had 3 winners out of 5 picks with some really good odds ( avg 4.5 ) so we are in the up swing again with horse racing

as you know football last week was dead with a punch of friendlies that most of the professional gamblers hate to bet on , so no change in soccer stats and we will wait till the leagues resume

tennis also has been amazing , day after day I have more faith in bookieinsiders since they have the largest sample tracked and they made their past results public so everyone can see how they did before purchasing a subscription there

I said previously that I will start tracking for miha8 , but sadly the price is kinda high with 0.015 btc a month and he rarely pick more than one match a day so for now I won't buy the subscription

with all the sites above I should be fine for now , but will keep an eye on other services and maybe will add a couple of them in the coming months 

120$ for 30 picks is so damn high
It's not only that it makes the ROI harder, but if you want to ROI at all you need to have huge bets

4$ a pick means each pick has to be at least a 100$ and you need a ROI with over 4% just to break even

yep thats why I decided not to buy Joca picks for now , hopefully he lower the price
so far I pay betting analyst the most ( 100 euros a month ) but they average 4 picks a day with a good a roi so by betting 25-50 euros a game I should do fine with them and I always find higher odds than they publish cause they give the odds that are available in most bookies not the highest ones
bookie insiders subscription is cheaper and it covers tennis , football , golf and MMA but I'm only going with soccer and tennis

I am suprised you didnt mention some of worlds most popular tipster sites:
1)Blogabet- Excellent site with many quality tipsters but worth buying only if you have time to bet as odds collapse insanely quick.

2)Betrush verified tipsters- Some of best tipsters in the world. Problem is lot of them use b365 which gets limit so you need to include in the price

3) Betadvisor- personally dont like then but junior tipsters are good for begginers.

thanks for the list , I may check them in the future
so far I'm starting small and all the tipsters I have accept bitcoin as a payment method , cause I can't pay with anything else beside crypto
also sites that have more than 10 tipsters confuse me a lot , since it's hard to know who to follow and who to not

Problem with bitcoin bookmakers are odds, you lose 3-5% in start and basically I dont use them for tipsters. As I have already over 14 years experience and managed to buy few properties off it, I will also write some own experiences during the day like how it went for me and what I overall think about tipsters.

cool , actually that would be really appreciated I guess since many here are interested in gambling success and experiences
yeah same for me I don't use bitcoin bookies for my betting except bitcoinrush since they offer pinnacle odds and sometimes pinnacle has the highest prices
but my other betting is all using fiat brokers that accept bitcoin like asianconnect and sportmarket

asianconnect, sportmarket and mollybet are best for high limits league for sure. Problem is that on those leagues its hard to find good tipsters. For example I know 3 companies which pay few hundreds euro per unit of profit to tipsters who have over 7% ROI on Asia which is best sign of how hard it is to beat them.

However, soft bookies cause problems with limits so its hard to get hands on accounts. Personaly I think everyone has to find where they belong considering money and time. If unit is 100$ its hard to bet Asians as on over 2000 picks profit will be not worth the time and for people who dont have liqudity I propose softbooks.

Considering tipsters, I like most betrush and then blogabet as they have lot of proven tips and I know records are trustworthy.

Most tipsters on blogabet are successful because of bet365 or Marathonbet / 1xbet odds. It's much more difficult to find a profitable tipster at Pinnacle odds, but again those who are do not need to promote themselves on such websites, as they can get a comfortable living betting with Pinnacle only.
I suspect they use some bots connected to the API and enter some settings to place bets at certain odds, but of course they won't share their strategies.

OP has been updated with last week stats as the following :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     191                                          +7.855
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                     84                                          -2.054
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                      70                                          -1.359
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                     13                                          +1.340

no much new except soccer picks are back now but bookie insiders had a bad run in Sunday where they lost 6 picks and only won one but we all know these runs happen from time to time
horse racing is being stable but anytime it can drive the profit way up or down since variance is huge there
so far not willing to add any other site to the list till I achieve decent amount of units

sorry guys it's been a long time since I made an update , my schedule is so messed up these days and missed a lot of picks so will update the thread next week
bookie insiders tennis guy left the site and decided to start his own site , so will wait for his official launch since he has a crazy ROI ( over 9 % ) his site will also have more tipsters for other sports

so far the new tennis guy in bookie insiders isn't trusted since he doesn't even have a past record , but will keep following their picks and update the thread here

OP has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     236                                          -11.955
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   124                                          -3.159
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                      92                                         -13.748
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                     19                                          -3.250

the last two weeks were terrible , I was busy with Easter and hanging out with friends and family so ended missing a lot of picks
the last two weeks brought all the tipsters that I follow to negative , some were due terrible analysis and some were due bad variance or me not catching the winning picks due to waking up late and ending up placing the bets on the loser picks ( in the long term choosing certain picks shouldn't affect the results since each tipster has a certain ROI that should apply for both winning and losing picks , but it was my bad luck since I catched the losing ones and missed the winners especially with betting analyst )

since the beginning of April , bookie insiders tennis tipster left the site and now they have another one who is doing terrible so I would advise you all to avoid bookie insiders tennis for now and wait 2 or 3 months till the new tipster proves that he is profitable

for future reference bookie insiders tennis so far has 16793 euros profit with 9.27% ROI so will get back after two months and see how these numbers changed

the good news is that bookie insiders tennis tipster decided to open his own site , he will be tipping for tennis and he has other tipsters for other sports
Ardeal ( the tennis guy ) is so profitable , bookie insiders tennis record is basically his record so you can expect 9% ROI from him

I bought subscription for his picks , basketball , NBA , and ligue 2 football picks and I may buy even more in the future in case my record improves a little or bitcoin price moon again

will update the resutls next week or so

Hey SyGambler,

Thanks for the nice words. I, Ardeal, was the tennis tipster on BookieInsiders Tennis for over 3 years. I had over 4000 bets,+9.7% ROI over that period with +17000 EUR profit from av. 43 EUR bets. That will be in the past.

TipstersClub.com will be launched this week, hopefully... Still waiting on the IT guy to finish everything and polish it a bit.

The results after 2 months of free tips for TipstersClub can be found in following link (https://twitter.com/TipstersClubCom/status/984373958848937984). There you can see results from filtered by sports, tipster and odds posted. Very transparent and esy to understand what you get into.

There will be some kind of offer when we launch for a limited time period and if you think it would be nice I can add also a permanent dicount code just for BitcoinTalk.org users.

Will come back to that info soon.

About the tipsters?

All of them have long history in betting industry, been working for bookies, have been traders or odds compilers. Most of them bet full time and win their money via betting... So it is easy to start trusting someone who won consistently over years.

Craig Snooker- former pro and pro-gambler
Craig Golf- model creator, follower and pro-gambler
Ardeal Tennis- pro-gambler and tennis-expert (I follow almost 8 hours a day live tennis)
Record Football- pro-trader and pro-gambler for many years now.
JPP Football- over 20 years of experience in gambling etc
Alcuni Football- plays just Ligue 2 French, but has 10% ROI over very long period, years and years
Basten Basketball- trader for international bookie and basketball follower
Houdini NBA- NBA expert and pro-capper
HorseRacing- pro-gambler and over 30% ROI over last year

Tipsters' bio will be available when the site launches.
Anything else, just let me know!

Cheers!
Ardeal,
TipstersClub

thanks for passing by and introducing your team Ardeal , you are one of the few that actually have a profitable tracked record and hopefully your team is as good as you
discount codes are always welcome of course even the price isn't that high , I will keep updating here how much I'm up or down
my stats aren't 100% accurate though , since I'm posting for the results that I get so sometimes I may miss winner or loser bets also the odds may be higher or lower than the picks
so here it's just my journey with tipsters  :)

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OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955   (stopped tracking)
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   132                                         -0.356
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                         -13.748   (stopped tracking)
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    28                                         -0.480
tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                             2                                         +1.300
tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                           7                                         +5.244
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                                4                                         +10.864
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       13                                        +32.890
tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   13                                        +23.230
tipstersclub           ( Record )                                        9                                         -1.330
tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       22                                        -3.241


this week tipstersclub has officially launched their webiste , and I gladly bought all the subscriptions there except snooker and golf
the results has been amazing so far , you can see the massive units won by them especially by Irishassasin since all his picks are 1 unit stakes
the large numbers are due various stakes , some tipsters picks range from 1-10 untis so that's why you may see some large profit count during short tracking periods

I decided to stop following betting-analyst for now cause they charge twice what tipstersclub charge for horse racing and the ROI is better in tipstersclub

so everything is looking good with tipstersclub launch , let's make some money !!  :D

Updates, please!
TipstersClub

will do the updates later tonight or early tomorrow  :) big results and big profit  ;D

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   136                                         -0.669                  -16.725
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    32                                         -0.649                   -16.250
tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                             7                                         -3.500                   -17.500
tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          17                                        +10.390                +103.900
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                                9                                         -4.018                   -20.090
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       26                                        -5.098                   -29.123
tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   29                                        +25.62                  +389.080
tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       20                                       +3.073                  +15.365
tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       49                                       +72.785                 +363.925
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today I decided to add how much I'm up/down in my journey , cause I don't use the same unit for all the tipsters and by doing this I can know exactly how much I'm up or down
all of the profits been coming from tipstersclub which was launched few days ago so thats a good sign that tipsters club can made me back what I lost in some services

so far I strongly recommend Ardeal and Irishassasin , these guys are bringing the max value in case you want to start with few tipsters
others are good too but their volume isn't that high , so IMO you should be getting better value with Ardeal and Irishassasin

at the moment I will stick with tipstersclub , bookieinsiders soccer , and Degen Signal free picks
may add more in the future if my profit goes beyond 1000 euros

OP has been updated with the following stats :


Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)
bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   150                                         +1.165                 +29.125
bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)
degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    37                                          +2.054                 +51.350
tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            10                                          +2.600                 +13.000
tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          27                                         +9.708                  +97.080
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               14                                         -18.673                 -93.365
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       37                                         -19.596                 -92.914
tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   55                                         +31.890               +495.67
tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       29                                         +7.299                 +36.495
tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                        76                                        +20.024                +74.745
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I took a loss in the last week , but Ardeal , Houdini and JPP were having some bad days so it's ok these days come and go
we had a day with 0/13 tennis , and Ardeal said that this is the first time in his 5 years of tipping having such a day ( to understand how variance can kick in  :D )

IrishAssasin has been doing great as usual , the steady positive numbers are starting to get me afraid haha ( since racing has a huge variance and I'm getting used to profits )

so far it's good experience with tipstersclub , I'm just afraid that Houdini bad run may affect his mindset cause he isn't running good
also I kinda don't like JPP betting style , his average is one pick a day and all of the time it's low odds with high stake

in case you want to join I strongly vouch for Ardeal , IrishAssasin , Basten and Record since they have good volume with good ROI

DegenSignals has been amazing even with low volume , it's free channel and you can join it for free , Just pm Krach here in the forums and I guess he will add you

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   158                                         +1.403                 +35.075

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    42                                          +2.782                 +69.550

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.040                  -10.200

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          38                                          -4.325                  -43.250

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               21                                         +1.443                  +7.215

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       44                                         -28.132                 -130.743

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   82                                         +32.690               +509.270

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       35                                         +5.748                +21.075

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                        93                                        +30.756               +132.771
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I was hoping that I will be positive again last week , but it seems the downswing will continue
last week was full of tough beats in like almost everything except IrishAssasin racing
from the tipsters above I only trust Degensignals , bookie insiders , Ardeal and IrishAssasin performances . These guys have good past record and they managed to win ( not sure about degensignals past performance but Theo is providing quality info once or twice a week and so far so good )

I don't know much about the other guys in tipstersclub to be honest , couldn't find anything related to their past history so to be honest I'm not even sure if they can keep a profitable season but we will see soon

will keep this thread updated once a week or so , I'm considering it as my gambling diary so in the future I can come back and see the stats of each week
it would be fun if I reach 2000 Euros in profit in the future though  :D
my average stake so far is around 30 euros , so technically with all the tipsters above I'm kinda break even so far

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   164                                         +4.111                 +102.775

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    48                                          +3.006                 +75.150

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          48                                          -7.601                  -76.010

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               26                                         +3.953                  +19.765

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       45                                         -22.252                 -104.600

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   104                                       +12.980                +191.200

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       38                                         -2.152                  -18.925

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       107                                       +8.995                  +13.085
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last week was extremly horrible , the downswing continues and this time with higher loss since I lost around 400 euros just last week

almost all the tipsters except bookieinsiders and degen signals were doing bad , some bad luck and some bad picks
I know it's a long term game but looking at the stats gives me depression  :D I have been tracking profitable tipsters for around 3 months now and still not showing profit

I missed some winners on horse racing as well so that made the swing bigger , can't do much since the only place I can bet on horses is betfair and it's hard to catch good prices a day before the races since the liquidity is really low the days before the events
I wish I had access for bet365 , that would make betting on horses easier or at least a bitcoin site start offering horse racing with reasonable margin

anyways today I renewed my monthly membership in tipstersclub too , so it's been a month but hopefully this month the stats will change
still hoping to reach the first 1000 euros profit milestone  :D

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   167                                         +7.129                +178.225

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    49                                          +3.777                 +94.425

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          75                                          -21.319                -213.19

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               38                                          -8.453                  -42.265

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588               -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   143                                         +1.267               -24.921

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       40                                          +1.406                -22.435

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       212                                         -34.468               -225.961

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                    51                                           +9.810               +98.100

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            2                                            +1.55                  +38.750

Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                           14                                          +22.300              +557.500       
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I have been quite for a little long time but had a lot of exams recently and didn't have that much of spare time to do the calculation in details
the numbers are still showing loss but there is a little improvement from the last time I posted the stats
sadly tipstersclub still showing loss with all the tipsters , even IrishAssasin that was the only profitable in the portfolio decided to stop tipping and sadly that stop came after a downswing that eat the profit after all

the reason you may see some positive units won but still negative profit in Euro is due that I raise my stake after winning a certain amount of units but in the long run a good tipsters should win back what he lost in the past so that shouldn't be a problem in case the tipster is profitable

if you noticed I started tracking for Joca free tips since he is the most active guy here in the forums so thought it would be nice to track him since he gives the picks for free for all the community members , I may join his premium when my bankroll is bigger or in case he lower the price at some point

also you can see I added Wadster , he is a good tennis tipster on twitter but I'm still new to him with only two picks followed

the main impact to the portfolio is adding punting4 profit , I started following him only 3 days ago and with that 3 days you can see he made me 22.300 units with just 14 picks so this should give you an idea how swingy horse racing can be to follow ( easy to win big and easy to lose big  :D )

anyways this month is full of action with the world cup and tennis grass starting , so I'm really optimistic that the numbers will be green this month

if you have any particular tipster that you know and you think he is really good please feel free to comment here
probably I will start updating the thread weekly , and hopefully I can help some people here to choose some tipsters 

Thanks for the positive comment,please add my link next to my username or something so people can see
also cant wait for your next update to see how much it has improved :)

yep mate for sure , I will probably add links to all the tipsters in case someone is interested to follow one of them but they are easy to find anyways
would you like me to post links for your thread or the link for the telegram channel ?

Would be nice of my threads but you pick :)

done mate , keep the good work up !!

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   172                                         +11.710               +292.750

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    49                                          +3.777                 +94.425

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          97                                         -25.037                -250.370

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               43                                          -18.453                -92.265

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588               -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   143                                         +1.267               -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       48                                          -16.134               -194.845

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       240                                         -58.466               -357.950

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                    62                                           +10.674             +106.740
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            5                                            +1.070                +26.750

Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                           29                                         +13.452              +362.844      
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it seems the swing will never end , down like 500 euros in the last week alone

so far the only I can recommend are Joca , Degen signals and bookie insiders soccer since they have been showing less variance with the other tipsters

Punting4Profit may be good as well , I'm still new to him but recently I discovered that his bets are placed on BOG ( Best Odds Guaranteed ) which I learned about two days ago . Basically BOG is a promotion that some fiat sites run for horse racing where if you take a horse at X8.00 for example and the odds for that horse moved to X11.000 before the race start they will count your bet as it was placed at X11.000
so his track record isn't accurate , he is saying that he has 20 profitable months in a row but with such rule I guess the results aren't accurate since the followers who use exchanges aren't getting that value ( and most of us here don't use sites like bet365 , 888 , paddypower ..etc )
and in general horse racing is swingy , we can go up 30 units in a day and have two weeks without hitting anything

in the other hand Joca and Bookieinsiders soccer have been showing solid returns , I like the analysis that bookie insiders post for the world cup
so far they haven't lost any bet in world cup except Russia vs Saudi Arabia where they had both teams to score , they were able to profit 6 picks in a row losing only in Russia vs Saudi Arabia

Tipstersclub is being really disappointing , I have followed over 600 picks so far without even profiting from a single tipster
as I said earlier Ardeal is the only guy I know since he used to work for bookie insiders and had 9% ROI over 4000 picks but even following him is really hard since the odds he post are most of time hard to get ( he shops for the best odds among all the bookies and exchanges so sometimes he post the odds for an exchange with very low liquidity or post the odds from sites that are known to limit winners )

anyways this journey for me is just to test investing in sports since I used to be poker player , luckily I limited my investment since I would had lost way more if I didn't cap my bankroll

still a long month to come for both tennis and soccer , and hoping these numbers will turn positive

Why you keep following some group which has put only -(ve) to the last page of this thread ? Do you have a lot of money to lose mate or what ? I am not saying I am better than those but you can make a bit of +(ve) in the long run if you follow my tipping thread which is TOTALLY FREE. I am coming out from a few bad weeks but started with 2 awesome victories for this week and hopefully I will give another win tomorrow with Portugal game. As the golden rule of betting, follow my tips only if you agree with them and play with only money you can afford to lose. Cheers.

I agree with you it's really disappointing to see some of their numbers , but if you deeply look about the tipsters you would see that all of them haven't even tipped 100 games so I'm giving them a chance sine I can't judge the small sample
and no I don't have a lot of money to burn , I'm putting maximum 4000 euros to lose with this experiment

you are on my list mate , and will definitely  start following you maybe starting tomorrow
can you make a telegram channel for the picks ? it would be way nice to get notified when the picks are up since most of the times I end up missing the picks here in the forums

EDIT : also can you please post the odds of your picks , just in case the odds dropped after the pick so followers can know what was the value when you tipped

I post tips once I go to work in 8 a clock AM European time. After I drink my coffee with colleagues and discuss together about possible outcomes but anyway for tomorrow I have a good odd of Portugal vs Morocco OVER 1.5 goals at 1.45 odd and it is a very high chance bet. Will post tomorrow on my thread but posting here for you not to miss. Cheers.

Edit: Here is a triple only for you with low odd but super high chances, is also my ticket for tomorrow.

Portugal draw no bet 1.22
Spain win 1.20
Uruguay win 1.20

oh great mate , I already have o2.5 for that game so will go with you as well
so starting today will start following you and add the results to my thread here , starting bet would be 10 euros and hopefully we can roll it up to 100 euros as the profits come  :D

cheers

Unfortunately Portugal disappointed anyone but at least got their points, our bet was a loss but our ticket if you played it is winning so far and only need Spain to win to come out as a winning ticket with 1.73 odd. Hope you played both.

I am requesting to add the cricket tipster picks service because it will help for all cricket fan and gamblers please check my request and add cricket tipster picks service.

yeah it happens mate , we all failed to predict the outcomes today since every sane one was expecting goal festivals today


to be honest I know nothing about cricket since it has like literally zero followers here in my country , I don't mind adding a tipster though
if you know someone who is real good with tracked history feel free to mention him here

Can you recomended me a good bookie that accept or use crypto ?

Maybe where they can give a lot of option to choose like in bet365, sbobet, etc. (not only win or lose)

no sadly , I haven't came across any good site that offers a lot of betting options with good margin that accepts crypto
sportsbet has a lot of options but wouldn't recommend them due to their high margin

but if you are looking for a good broker where you can choose the highest odds among all the asianbookies and exchanges like betfair and matchbook then you can try sportmarket , you can have access to many bookies and bet with using one single platform
here is a screenshot how it looks like if you want to bet on Denmark for example to win tomorrow :

https://prnt.sc/jxdcbk

as you can see the broker will scan all the odds and you will be able to bet at the highest
they take bitcoin but sadly there is KYC

I use this website (http://mrfixitstips.co.uk/), have done for a good few years now. Long term winners and some very knowledgeable members too. Used to be all free, but there's a paid section now (which I haven't tried). Mainly focuses on football and the horses, but plenty of other sports there too. Worth checking out anyway.

thanks for the recommendation mate , the site does look nice indeed but can't find what I'm looking for
when I join a certain tipster ( especially paid ones ) I always ask for their record to see if they can win on a large sample , but can't find this in the site or am I missing it ?

Thats to bad than  :-[ All this Crypto sportbook should take a look at this old giant sportsbook, and if they can make their platform just like that, they gonna be big sportsbook in crypto world.
Hope soon or later we can have really good bookie in crypto world.

well we already have some good sites like bitcoinrush and betking , bitcoinrush doesn't offer a lot of betting options but they cover the popular ones that gamblers usually use ( moneyline , handicap , over/under ) and the odds there are from pinnacle which is a leading site in the market

I'm sure more site will appear in the future and there should be more good ones , but that will only happen when users stick to the best sites

like imagine if people started betting only with bitcoinrush , I'm sure this will make nitrogen review their margin and again and offer lower one
competition should create great environment for gamblers , but sadly many still betting with some sites while they can get way better service using other sites like bitcoinrush and betking

I don't think they do keep a record, although their past posts are all archived, so it is transparent. I did use to keep a track of the bets I made on it, but then I moved to the Middle East and betting has been a rare occurrence since. Still visit the site though, good analysis across the board, not just blind tips. Some of the forum members probably have a better record than the main tipsters. There was one guy years ago that was great at obscure football bets, and I vaguely remember someone else being an NBA expert. Keeping track of the comments on the main tips usually indicated which ones had the best support. I used to read through it all and just cherry pick the 'best' ones, considerably better than other sites I've visited in the past anyway.

well thanks for it anyways , I'm using it now as an extra educational resource since yeah the info they provide is really nice
but regarding following them I can't add them to my list since they don't have track for their performance , all the tipsters I follow have a detailed tracked history especially the paid ones so I can know what to expect by following them

I don't think that I will keep following all the guys in my list , so once I remove some of them I will take a deep look into their paid service as well

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   186                                         +12.310               +307.75

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    53                                          +1.627                 +40.675

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          97                                         -25.037                -250.370

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               46                                          -12.593               -62.965

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588               -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   143                                         +1.267               -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       56                                          -8.176                -118.255

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       249                                         -46.657              -293.000

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                    94                                          +4.207                +42.070
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            12                                           +18.196             +454.900

Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                           59                                           +29.482             +604.004

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780
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so finally I'm back to positive , last week was amazing with almost all of the tipsters doing good but the main two that made the impact are punting4profit and WadsterTips these guys were on fire last week so hope the performance keep going like this

I just added bitcoinsupremo for the list but couldn't follow all the picks he posts due to being sick last week and waking up real late

no new from tipsters club since there were mostly no picks except from Record who showed me a little profit last week in the world cup

still not covering the fees that I pay for the tipsters but this is a long term game for me and more like an experiment

if you are or you know a good tipster , again please don't hesitate to post here and let me know about the service

so far in  case you want to join some of the tipsters I follow , keep an eye on the free ones but the paid I can only recommend bookie insiders , Wadster and Punting4Profit since these are the only ones making me profit at the moment

in TipstersClub I do trust Ardeal but have no idea about the other guys so I may even stop following them in the future and stick to the proven profitable ones  

Don't suppose you got on the John Stones anytime scorer tip in the England Panama game? Nice return on that yesterday.

On another note, who's got the longest losing streak from the tipster services mentioned? 

haha well no sadly I didn't even have time to check the site the last few days due to being sick and having exams

the longest streak so far is Ardeal from tipstersclub for two months now I guess , at least in my experience but he had showed long term profit and I communicate with him like daily on twitter and he said the swing is one of the toughest he ever faced during his career

you can check his old results in this link since he used to work for bookie insiders tennis , he stopped tipping for them on last April so you can see how profitable he was when he used to tip for them https://bettin.gs/insiderstennis

www.easysportbet.co.uk accept bitcoin and also some other coins (eth, litecoin, bitcoin cash).
Good odds on their betkeen service (it is basically Betfair exchange ).

actually looking at easysportbet they offer the minimum of what other brokers offer , only betfair , matchbook and 3ET so guess using others may be better
is there any advantage in 3ET ? my broker offers betfair ,matchbook and more other asianbookies but this is the first time I see 3ET

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   195                                         +14.732               +368.300

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    54                                          +2.684                 +67.100

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          102                                        -31.425                -314.250

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               47                                          -20.593                -102.965

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588               -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   143                                         +1.267               -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       66                                          +28.463              +248.135

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       267                                         -62.747              -372.695
 
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      9                                             -3.758              -37.580                         

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   101                                          +4.752              +47.520
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            17                                           +23.331             +586.488

Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                           73                                           +29.564             +605.808

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780
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last week was really good and managed to win a little over 350 euros , world cup has been good , horse racing was like break even and tennis was good

no much to add this week , there hasn't been any thing running except world cup so tipsters club stats only moved with Record who delivered a nice week
also a new tipster joined the club ( DaveBets ) don't know much about his since he is new but his picks are available for free for limited time in tipstersclub before he moves to premium only

just wanted to make the update today instead of tomorrow since it's the end of June and gladly some tipsters are turning the results especially Wadstertips and Punting4Profit

enjoy betting the world cup , and will update the thread next week

Read about the #Golf week #Craig29x147s has had:  https://tipstersclub.com/5768/   

#Snooker season starts soon: https://tipstersclub.com/5612/  (use SNOOKER30CR code)

#Wimbledon package from #Ardeal: https://tipstersclub.com/subscribe/   

#DaveBets (Newest member): https://tipstersclub.com/tipster/?prfNr=264 …

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http://TipstersClub.Com  – Numbers and Stats for each tipster since the beginning of the project. https://tipstersclub.com/6003/

#Craig29x147s #Ardeal #DaveBets #Basten #JPP #Record #Houdini #Alcuni #IrishAssassin #IrishRacingPro

These are all the numbers and stats for all tipsters since we started.

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Hey which is your tipster pick for FIFA it's been a crazy World Cup so far with big teams knocked out which tipster do you think can do justice and get the correct predictions I'm keen to get my hand in but the fear of burning (loosing) is keeping me away I'm more keen to know semi and finals. Could you suggest which you may have tried or is very reliable.

hey mate , the best tipster for the world cup and for soccer in general is bookie insiders since they have long term profit and even with the crazy surprises in world cup they are still way up with their world cup picks

their monthly subscription is really cheap comparing it with the results they show , so you can try them and they take bitcoin as well

for tipstersclub I don't have long experience with them yet so can't confirm if the soccer tipsters are good or bad there
if you have any questions feel free to ask me here or just PM me about the tipsters you would like to know

OP has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                     237                                         -12.955                -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   204                                         +18.902               +472.550

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                     92                                          -13.748                -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    56                                          +0.864                 +21.600

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          109                                        -20.755                -207.550

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               53                                          -13.085                -65.425

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588               -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                   143                                         +1.267               -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243             +245.945

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       280                                         -135.107            -770.675
 
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      17                                          -15.482             -154.820                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   112                                          +4.102              +41.020
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            31                                           +29.389            +753.083

Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                           94                                           +36.555            +759.351

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378              -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       2                                             +0.220             +2.200

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                       6                                            +14.824            +148.240

Enigma Betting          ( free racing )                               31                                            -11.550             -231.000
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last week was good for some tipsters and extremly bad for other tipsters ( tipsters club  ::) ) , Wadster and Punting4Profit continued showing solid performance and solid return so they are still the best in the list

tipstersclub still doing awful , I will probably stop following them right after my subscription end since their performance is bad so far and it's extremly swingy so guess will just skip them especially Ardeal and Basten
Ardeal used to be profitable when he used to tip for tipsters club , he had 9% ROI over 4000 picks but now he has 1050 picks for tipsters club yielding -0.800% ROI which is terrible and looking that he has now over 1000 picks with prices that are really hard to find in bookies then this is a clear negative sign

moving to buysportspicks.net which is still new , the owner of the site created a thread here and he was nice enough to give me life time access to the picks just to share my stats with you so you can know if he is good or not
I was able to follow 6 picks and all of them won , the odds are great and he is showing great knowledge of the game , for example he tipped yesterday BIG to win and placed 2 units on X4.58 odds and that was a nice win ( so he doesn't pick the favor as many of the tipsters here in the forums do )

I started also following Enigma horse racing , he is sharing his picks for free and Wadster recommended him to me but so far I'm having bad start with him
but still can't judge since horse racing is really swingy and 31 picks is nothing to judge

as always will keep updating my thread every Saturday night or Sunday morning , feel free to leave any review about tipsters that you know

how horse racing crazy can be ?!?!?! will this photo from my account can gives you an idea haha
had the most profitable one hour in my life , 1064 euros in one hour risking around 140 euros total in these races

https://prnt.sc/k6ez7h

following good horse racing guys is the best , I should update the thread tomorrow after I get back home from my exam you can see the stats for the horse racing guys that I'm following
it's a shame tho that only mbet has bitcoin horse racing

Joca is pretty good yeah, I’ve followed him for years & he has a good success rate. I can recommend paying for his tips yeah.

I have no idea about Joca's premium picks , but he told me that he doesn't have record of his past picks and he doesn't know how much units he profited or what his ROI is
the pricing is really high as well so can't afford just testing it without having a solid info about the service ( as I remember 120$ for just 30 picks ) while I'm paying an average 25 euros for the paid tipsters I follow and they provide more than 30 picks a month with stable ROI

so can't check Joca's premium for the reasons that I mentioned , the odds for the picks may be low as well so basically I just have no idea at all how his premium picks work

op has been updated with the following stats
Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                 237                                               -12.955               -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   206                                         +18.502               +462.550

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                92                                              -13.748                 -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    56                                          +0.864                 +21.600

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550

tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               57                                          -20.275                -101.375

tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                              143                                              +1.267                 -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       284                                         -135.107             -908.175
 
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      24                                          -19.862              -198.620                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   112                                          +4.102                +41.020
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            33                                           +28.359            +724.758

Wadster                 ( Free Picls )                                    4                                             +9.830             +98.300

Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          111                                           +41.662            +871.964

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          ( free racing )                              108                                           +47.790            +955.800

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     69                                             +25.774            +449.552
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last week was just amazing , profiting around 1450 euros and most of these profits came from the hits that I got yesterday with a screenshot that I posted in the last post here in thread
it shows how patience is important in horse racing and as long as you are following a good tipster you should expect high returns in the long run
now obviously such days are really rare but it also carried my portfolio since this is my first time I reach over 1000 euros in profit since I started the thread here

I added wadster free tips which is a free version on tipstrr site and he posts there occasionally when there some plays that he is less confident about ( or let's say less profitable than premium )

Engima has been doing amazing with yesterday's hits , he share his picks for free on telegram in case you want to follow

also started following for accounts in tipstrr for horse racing and all of them are free and for one of the guys that I know , he is really good you can check his last picks there as well

tipstersclub still disappointing , I'm still only getting negative returns with them so now decided that I will only follow their picks when I find the exact same odds or better cause they are barely breaking even and some tipsters like Ardeal , Basten and Record are negative in total stats
probably will stop following them after my subscription end and then maybe come back to their site on December  to see if the tipsters were able to profit in the previous months

I managed to get a 92 unit profit over the World Cup, 108 bets in total with 40 winners, 67 losers and 1 stake returned. Missed betting on two of the games when I overslept, so only bet on 62 games, but can't complain. Looking ahead to the start of the European leagues next month now, will be keeping an eye on the thread for any football tips from the ones listed. Nice week last week, long may it continue.

thanks mate and grats on your amazing Worldcup winnings , I profited as well from WC but not that much of units so you are killing it !!

BTW I just started following two soccer guys that have a premium service in twitter , the reviews about them are good but I'm still new with them so can't judge
so far it seems horse racing is the most lucrative if you follow a good horse racing guy , but it's swingy as well so I will wait at least 3 months to have a full idea about it

Hmm its like you stopped following my predictions,but my predictions in your threads are in plus same as in my thread,last few days all wins,still confused why you stopped but it your choice :)

Quite a good thread to follow, but I guess I am a bit lost with racing, so if I take it right, about half of your profits are from horse racing. I could not really attempt to follow that properly unless I just put all my trust in the tip. I have to have some knowledge of the sport before I can place any bets.

I follow a few in this forum sometimes. Joca I recognize but I did not follow all. Everybody has tempting results but unless you can have strict strategy and units like Sy, it is impossible to say if it is profitable long run.

Let us say I have 0.01 bankroll to try, is this possible to recover tips fees?

yeah sorry bro it's my exam month I should finish after 9 days and have more time , my program has been messed up waking up late and sleeping early the morning haha , I will check now what what's up and I will keep follow


I'm the same mate , I have no idea at all about horse racing haha but it's crazy profit when you are following the right guys
the horse racing guys that I follow I fully trust and they are all professional horse racing gamblers , I had chat with all of them on twitter and telegram and they know what they are talking about

your 0.01 bankroll is for everything or just for the tipsters ?? if you want to follow horse racing enigma and tipstrr tipsters are totally free so you won't have to pay them and punting4profit only charge 50 GBP for 3 months so basically horse racing is free

if you want to follow them you just need a good site to place your bets on horse racing , for me the only site I place my bets on is orbitexchange which is powered by betfair so you will get the same orders there and you can create an account with them using asianconnect
they take bitcoins and convert it to euros and there is no KYC

if you have any questions feel free to tell me and I will gladly help you

the most important thing about racing is to have a good bankroll like 200 units and up , and you need to stick to a strict plan cause there are days that we lose big and there are days that we win big ( like a few posts ago where I made over 1000 euros in one hour )
as long as you are sticking to the plan and following professional guys you should end up with profit

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I managed to finish three consecutive weeks in profit and this actual week I started with 3 out of 3 wins so far and plan to extend it hopefully. I am sorry to see you in negative from only 4 tips you have tried from me. I am a long term tipster normally so I wish you had followed my tips during these last weeks up to now.

I'm trying to follow you mate but I keep forgetting to check your thread and it seems we are living in two different time zones
will do my best to keep up with your picks , no worries about the loss it's small and no one can judge by that  :)

the games I lost with you I actually backed myself as well , I remember all of us were expecting portugal and spain games to have at least 3 goals but both games ended as a disappointment  :D

just posting to notify you that I will run a 50$ giveaway for a random person who commented here in the thread previously since the day it was created when I reach 2000 euros total profit , hopefully this will be on Sunday if things went good
it's just a small thank you gift for the people who recommended tipsters and shared their different ideas about the progress

think I should start doing such things to celebrate progress in the future

Just wanted to add that 2000 EUR should have been already achieved if you followed me this week only , 36% PROFIT already for the week with only playing Brondby to win as last tip of the week. I think I have picked up steam and I have finished 4 consecutive weeks in profit and want really bad to beat my record as this is my best record 4 consecutive weeks in profit. Looking to make it 5 next week.

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   208                                         +18.580              +462.000

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    56                                          +0.864                 +21.600

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000           ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   126                                          +9.299                +92.990
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            38                                          +32.461            +837.563

Wadster                 ( Free Picls )                                   12                                          +24.190             +241.900
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          125                                          +31.782            +634.844

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          ( free racing )                              178                                           +66.424            +1400.639

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     144                                           +26.113           +455.993

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       14                                             -17.760              -177.600
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so guys finally a new milestone was achieved , I reached 2000 euros in profit from doing nothing but investing in tipsters
it has been slow till I discovered the good value tipsters like Enigma , Wadster and some free tipstrr accounts so I'm expecting things to be faster the coming days especially that enigma and tipstrr tipsters have high volume of betting mixed with good knowledge which means faster profit/loss

as I stated yesterday I will give away 50$ to one person who commented in my thread since it was create , I will do the list this evening and use a random number generator to pick the winner
after that I will contact the winner , and if he/she doesn't respond within 24 hours I will pick another one again using the same method and eliminating the guy who doesn't respond
next milestone is 5000 euros  :)

I decided to stop following all tipstersclub tipsters except Davebets since he is new and excpet Houdini since his NBA is on profit but I joined at the time of his swing

I'm keeping an eye on horse racing guys , cause racing has been the most lucrative with crazy ROI and of course sometime crazy downswings but I'm following a bankroll management that should do fine

if you know any other good guys with good tips feel free to mention here

great job mate !! so glad you performed well
can you please join me on telegram and notify me when the picks are up , cause I'm having tough times following all the tipsters I'm subscribed to since I have to constantly check my email  , twitter and telegram
so if you can join telegram and announce your picks when they are up that would be extremly helpful

I don't use telegram unfortunately nor I use any other social media as I believe it just is against Bitcoin core philosophy of being anonymous. Anyway the time tips are up is this, from Monday to Friday, from 8 am- 10 am European time and in weekends it usually are up from 8 am to 2 pm.

alrighty mate will try my best to keep up to date with your picks , I would be really happy to see all the forums tipsters in my thread so the community can have an idea who is profitable and who is the best here
I started with you and Joca and I may add more in case I have more time to keep updated with all the tipsters here

Congratulations to LFC_Bitcoin who won the 50$ , I will pm him now and if he doesn't respond within 24 hours I will pick another winner

do you the like the giveaway  this way , or would you like to see a change on it on the next giveaways ? would love to hear from you for future milestones
guess next giveaway will be when I reach 5K in profit

Very generous, not sure I deserve the $50. I think I’ve only posted in here once or twice.

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Thanks very much.

grats mate , payment was sent
it's just a way to celebrate progress with community and hopefully many more giveaways will come if the tipsters I follow keep performing like this  :D
also if you have any suggestion how the giveaway should be feel free to let me know

Haha, I hope you keep performing so well. Good luck to you.
Will leave pos trust & Merit points.

Thanks once again.

enjoy mate , and please feel free to suggest any good tipster that you know and doesn't charge over 30$ a month
I have seen many good stats for some tipsters but their subscription fee is really high makes it profitable only if you bet with like 100 euros or more
at the moment I stopped following the majority of tipstersclub tipsters and will wait till September or October to see if they manage to profit or not
so there are free spots to fill  ;D

I will keep my eyes open buddy :)
The real football (club football) is back soon so there will be lots of wannabe tipsters getting ready to show their class.

I would like to join your Telegram channel. I am interested in tipsters from this forum (who seem to have quite accurate predictions on various sports) and would be nice to have them all in one go!
Hope you will make good progresses with your project (even thought the competition with other competitors is fierce as the field is readily available everywhere).

the telegram group I have has nothing to do with this thread and it's still small with only 2 members
if you would like to know more about one of the tipsters I follow just leave his name and I will explain exactly what the tipster offers and what markets he usually bets
BTW  the majority of the tipsters that I follow aren't here in bitcointalk

Fair play on the giveaway, guessing karma does work. And congrats on hitting 2000 profit.

thanks mate , hopefully things get faster now since I removed the ones who are doing bad and looking at the stats I guess I'm gonna stick only to the profitable ones
still searching for tipsters someone recommended Boring Winners on twitter for me so I guess I'm gonna add him , he tips only soccer as I understood and at the moment I guess I need soccer tipsters since the seasons will kick off next month

apologies for the results delay , but been busy with my cousin wedding in the past 4 days and haven't recorded the results for these days on my sheets
also my current internet really sucks so the update my be delayed till tomorrow or the day after
if my connection gets more stable I will do the update today

Hello all,

First of all, We would like to thank you for following @TipstersClubCom and keeping around. The results of most of the tipster have been dire lately.... but follwing two tipsters have been proving that they are amazing!

We wanted to make you aware about some new things going on at @TipstersClubCom.

We have also an active OFFER for all followers... Just follow the instructions in the pinned tweet and get your free week with any of the tipsters from @TipstersClubCom
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He has been crushing Golf betting and snooker and his prices are really low considering the quality he offers.

Our newest premium tipster is #DaveBets, a pro gambler that sustains himself and his family by betting on UFC and other American sports. We are very lucky to have him here.

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His past week results can be seen here:

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Bets Won >>> 6/7

ROI >>> +63.9%

For any questions or feedback, please don't hesitate to contact us!

Kind regards,
TipstersClub

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   212                                         +23.249              +590.398

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    56                                          +0.864                 +21.600

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            46                                          +32.872            +848.865

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                   21                                          +29.130             +296.240
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          142                                          +36.647            +751.604

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    248                                           +33.380           +528.973

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     223                                           +46.829           +849.597

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       14                                             -17.760              -177.600
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sorry for the delay but been a busy week for me after I finished exams , missed a lot of bets and haven't been active that much here in the forums as well
but now I should have some more time for gambling and the forums , not that much but better than the last week

Enigma stopped tipping for free and now he has a paid subscription , I subscribed as he showed great returns during my experience with him and I should continue with him starting tomorrow

not much going on except horse racing , still waiting for soccer season to start and we should have more action going on

OP has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   212                                         +23.249              +590.398

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    56                                          +0.864                 +21.600

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            49                                          +36.510            +948.910

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                   27                                          +28.230             +286.340
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          143                                          +35.647            +727.604

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    270                                           +35.400           +582.503

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     277                                           +56.161           +1040.951

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       14                                             -17.760              -177.600
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not that much past week but there was a 300 euros profit , my routine still messed up and I'm missing some of the morning picks

no much new , last week  I followed only horse racing and tennis and still waiting for soccer season to begin so I should have more volume and hopefully more winnings

I subscribed to Boring Winners but wasn't able to place any bet yet since literally all of the bets he made was betting on corners which I'm not able to find on the sites that I use

so if you know any bitcoin site that offer corners betting please mention it here
will update the thread as usual next Sunday

haven't posted last week stats but I'm not having any free time to do the calcualtions , so next update will be on Sunday and it will have 2 weeks stats
it was a horrible week in general and probably lost over 1000 euros , so I'm facing a swing with the guys that I follow especially horse racing tipsters
hope this will be turned around by Sunday but I guess I may need 2 or 3 weeks to recover what I lost in the last week

Hello SyGambler, I forgot all about the question I asked in this thread before, which you replied to. I asked first if it was enough to have 0.01 gambling bankroll and I was very interested in horse gambling. You replied back and sorry I am now too lazy to go back and quote ;) but you mentioned that you need 200 units. Can I assume you mean unit can be anything I want it to be and this just means when you bet, you use unit and not $? I think the minimum bet on my side for sports is 0.0001 so that means I have 100 units at 0.01 right?

Now, football season has started, is it also safe to say 200 units or 0.02 BTC is good for football?

yes mate exactly , so you if you are going to bet 0.0001 a game you should have 0.02 BTC dedicated for gambling ( 200 units )
there is no rule of thumb when it comes to how much units you should have , but in short words the more you have the better are your chances of not busting all your bankroll
horse racing is really swingy , for example Enigma recommending having 150 units bankroll and I just finished recording his stats for the last week
looking at the numbers he swinged for 80.9 units profit to only 12.80 now which means his swing has costed us 68.1 units
so you can see if someone started following him from that point with only 75 units bankroll then he is probably totally broke at this moment

it's just to avoid busting the whole bankroll while you are facing a downswing , it won't guarantee a profit but it's a main concept for profiting and without managing the bankroll there is a good chance that you will bust it


football is so much softer than horse racing , it's really hard to bust your whole bankroll since most of the times the odds are something like 1.5-3

I would say that 50 units bankroll is relatively safe especially if you are recreational gambler ( a gambler who can adds some new money out of his pocket in case he lost )
personally I mainly follow bookieinsiders for football picks , and they recommend 100 units bankroll but I do believe you need less than that if you follow the style that they are betting

my advice for you is to start following bookieinsiders football , variance is really low with them and they offer solid knowledge
you can check their profit and their last picks following this link
https://bettin.gs/Bookieinsiders

also please if you have any question just leave it here and I will answer it , the main reason I created this thread is to discuss tipsters with the community here so we can all help each others to make some money together following good guys and I'm getting like zero interaction  ;D

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   219                                         +27.354              +703.285

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    59                                          +0.474                 +11.850

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            63                                          +36.184            +939.945

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                   42                                          +20.112             +197.042
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          160                                          +37.713           +777.188

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    392                                           +8.985              -117.495

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     393                                           +62.498           +1174.028

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        31                                              +27.164           +543.280
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it's been a tough two weeks , but luckily ended up profiting 50 euros after all lol

Enigma is facing one of the worst swings that I ever saw , at some point I was 81 units up with him and now we are sitting at barely 9 units profit which means a loss for me since I raise the stake after a certain amount of units won

I have added Ron Williams for my tipsters list , he is one of the best guys I saw on horse racing and he saved my portfolio

so far tipstrr free tipsters are doing the best , the 4 accounts belong to one guy that I know on Twitter and he is a true beast so I really recommend checking his plays and it's totally free so you don't have to pay anything

still looking for good soccer tipsters since I don't have much now , but I have racing and tennis kinda covered with daily tips so would love to increase the volume for soccer

Hi mate,

Which bookmaker or betting exchange platform do you use to place bets on horse racing?

Betfair Starting Price?

hey mate for horse racing I'm totally relying on this site https://orbitxch.com which is exactly betfair but for asian customers , you can open an account there using asianconnect88.com and you will have access to matchbook exchange as well which is great also for horse racing
there is only one pure bitcoin site that offers racing which is mbet.io , I do recommend them but their odds most of the times is lower than betfair but sometimes you may find the exact same odds with mbet and you can bet with them

best thing to do is to create account in both of them and shop for the best price always

Hi, thanks for your reply.
I heard about this service, I wonder if it is possible to place unmatched bets? I am using Betkeen myself (easysportbet.co.uk), I am very satisfied especially since we get a bonus every week we lose, however the only negative is that we cannot place unmatched bets.

By that I mean that if for example I want to cash out a bet inplay (on tennis), I lay @ 1.50 (when the player is currently @ 1.55) and wait for my bet to be matched. Is it possible with Orbit?

Hi SyGambler,

I have just noticed this thread. I have read all messages in this thread and read you are looking for a football tipster.

Actually, I had thread in this forum to share Football + Tennis Picks but than i didn't continue.

But I might consider to share picks , posts everyday on forum. Here is my link to thread i mention ;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2667272.msg27206429#msg27206429

You can also see my verified results ;

https://www.betrush.com/tipster,1454.html
https://www.bettors.club/tipster/damir/13/

my twitter to share picks Free + Premium
https://twitter.com/damirkarati

see you

yes mate you can place whatever orders you want and wait till they get matched , I have no idea about betkeen but I'm sure you can do unmatched orders in both orbit ( betfair version) and matchbook
you put the order and wait for someone else to accept it , so either you get the required odds that you placed or simply your bet will be cancelled if the game started and no one matched your order
also there is a good feature in orbit that you can keep the order even live , for example you have an order on a certain team to win at X2.00 but the odds never went that high you can let the exchange let your order live so maybe you get matched at these odds when the game goes live and of course you can just unmark that option in case you want your order to get matched only pre live


thanks for passing by , I will see your data now and decide if I will join you or not
At the moment I don't have much time since I'm spending the summer with family and friends , but I may join you next month if I liked the stats

OP has been updated with the following stats :
Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   229                                         +15.854              +387.035

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    67                                          +1.444                 +36.100

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            64                                          +37.154            +966.620

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                   45                                          +18.632             +197.042
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          165                                          +38.683           +800.468

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     393                                           +62.498           +1174.028

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        45                                              +15.807           +316.140

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         10                                              +3.420             +85.500

Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          2                                                +0.458             +9.160
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been a tough week that costed me 744 euros in losses , so some change is needed
first of all as you can see I decided to stop following Enigma even he was doing amazing , but his style doesn't suit me and it's really dangerous and swingy
for example my all time high profit with him was 81 units and as you can see the profit turned -5 units , which means the downswing lasted for 86 and maybe it will last more if I continue with him
he recommends 150 units bankroll , so for people who started following him at that point they would had lost 86 units which means they lost 57.333% of their bankroll and that's frustrating
I will keep an eye on him in the future maybe I will rejoin next year or so

Tipstrr tipsters now aren't free anymore and they are paid , but as you can see they worth the money and I decided to continue with them

I have added also Elite Bet Syndicate who has really impressive results with horse racing , he tips like maximum 5 horses a day so the variance with him should be low

also added Damir to my list and subscribed to him yesterday , his premium record is looking good with over 10% ROI even the sample is small with only 250 picks but still it worths the try

I guess I won't add any more tipster in the near future , I will stick to these and see how things go
now my hope is to reach 4K euros in profit before October , if I did so I can really start taking this investing project more seriously since it will be generating more than enough money for me to live in my current country

OP has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   235                                         +14.754              +356.785

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    72                                          -0.036                 -0.900

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            78                                          +50.395            +1,336.460

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                  64                                          +42.102             +438.932
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          172                                          +39.643           +823.508

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr free ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     463                                           +83.482           +1,635.612

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        54                                              +10.917           +218.340

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225

Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          9                                                -1.222             -24.440
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so total profit is back up to over 2000 euros thanks to Wadster and my tipstrr friend who runs 4 accounts there and ended closing the week with around 740 EURs profit
these two are doing amazing as you can see with crazy good ROI especially Wadster who provides really tiny amount of picks but with crazy accuracy and crazy ROI
so if you have a good bankroll to risk then these two can really help you double your bankroll quick

soccer has been kinda boring and kinda break even , I really like Damir's style but wasn't able to bet all of his picks due to my life routine these days but I still believe that he has great value

also wasn't able to place all the bets with punting4profit cause I'm not waking up early and I'm missing pretty much all of his picks since he post the picks in the morning
this should be changed in winter when I have to start waking up early and go to college but so far I'm still having vacation with friends and family and I'm waking up really late

I may not continue with Ron and Elite Bet Syndicate cause they have kinda high price with low volume and they use clickbank for their payments that does the auto renew monthly so I'm struggling to find someone who is able to do the payments for me regularly and accept my bitcoins for the clickbank payments

still searching for good new guys to add , as you can see I have premium tipsters but also I'm not able to find their selections since most of the times they do doubles that I can't find with bitcoin bookies or asian sites
also subscribed to Boring Winners and he claims to have over 10% ROI but he mainly tips corners and these also are really hard to find with the bookies I use especially with the odds he quote so I wasted the subscription money  ;D

again if you know any good site or guy please let me know so I maybe subscribe

Hi mate, quite amazing results as it is definitely not easy to make money on sports betting these days.
I cannot remember if I posted this or not earlier in this thread, I can recommend secretbettingclub (https://secretbettingclub.com), I downloaded a few of their reports lately, but cannot share them as I promised the owner I would not post publicly. But there are some interesting tipsters, especially on horse racing.

By the way you can get your money back with this service if you are not happy with it, so it's definitely worth a try, these guys are very trustworthy.

thanks mate , yeah as you can see some tipsters I followed weren't good so there is a grind and I'm trying to have as many good guys to follow as I can so I reduce the variance
I checked the site but honestly I didn't understand it fully hehe , still trying to see where the tipsters section is and where to see their past results cause I check the past results everytime before I check a tipster

is there any specific guy there to follow ? and is there any section in the site that shows past performance ?

The website I posted is a tipster review service (not a tipster), if you subscribe for one year, you will have all their reviews every month. You download the reports (PDF files) and inside they usually rate 2 or 3 tipsters, usually soccer or horse racing.

The way they evaluate the tipsters is great, because they really consider the availability of the odds, which IMO is the key. Here is an example:

https://image.ibb.co/fY465K/2018_09_04_0328.png


Then of course they rate the results. Usually per year.
Of course they consider (usually) at least 1,000 tips:

https://image.ibb.co/nyjjsz/tips.png


It's a good service, even though you need to pay first for their review service, and then each time you'll decide to buy one tipster. But once again, what I find the most difficult with the few I tried, was to achieve the same average odds, I always ended up with lower odds than the ones advised, which affected the results.

The most obvious example was the tipster named Club GOWI, who is absolutely great at finding values, but he has too many followers and you cannot get the odds quoted in the emails he sends.

oh thanks for making this clear , I didn't understand the site when I visited it and thought they offer tips as well
well yeah if it's hard to get the odds for these tipsters then probably I shouldn't join especially that I'm limited only to asian bookies
hope we can together find someone who is still not that popular , cause IMO this is where the value stands  :D

OP has been updated with the following stats

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   242                                         +13.164              +313.060

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    75                                          +0.244                 +6.100

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            11                                          -2.400                  -12.000          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          114                                        -26.255                -262.550          ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub       ( JPP )                                               60                                          -28.885               -144.425           ( Stopped tracking )
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       288                                         -132.927             -896.185            ( Stopped tracking )
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      29                                          -15.537              -155.537                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            81                                          +46.895            +1,231.460

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                  67                                          +36.102             +366.932
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          181                                          +48.872           +1,045.004

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     492                                           +75.509          +1,452.233

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
  
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          10                                                -0.312             -6.240
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nothing new so far , was down around 230 euros last week but it's a small swing that happens from time to time
been missing a lot of winners for Damir due to posting the picks few hours before the events and being away from laptop , but longterm we should be fine

I decided to stop following Ron and Elite cause a person I trust told me that they both are scam with fake twitter followers and to be honest I received two DMs on twitter from strangers recommending them for me which is really shady thing to do IMO since I haven't asked people opinions there so they either got paid from them to say that or these accounts are for them as well so better to avoid

still have lack of tipsters to follow but won't join anyone new except the tipster is recommended by someone who I trust
there are many good tipsters around but the prices they quote are so hard to find so better to avoid these as well 
 

I also have been following your thread. It is just unlucky or I hope you will catch picks at the same time zone.

I noticed you cought only 10 Picks from my service. But you started tracking me on 26th August. There has been now 25 Picks from 26th August to today. ( 10th September)
It should be 17 won -  8 lost bets - ROI: %22. Average odds: 1.80 in these period.

I see your concern or reason to miss games. I send most of picks from 09:00 UTC timezone to 16:00 UTC. These are the best for Europe.

Another Stats are %35 of my picks sent 3-6 hours to event start time.
%26 of those sent 1-3 hours to event start time.
%15 of those sent 6-12 hours to event start time.
%9 of those sent 12-24 hours to event start time.
%6 of those sent 24+ hours to event start time.

Good Luck

In my quest to find good horse racing tipsters, I unfortunately got to the conclusion that it is very hard to have profits by using Betfair Exchange only. This is my main issue. All good tipsters have access to soft bookies such as Coral, etc (of course they'll close your account quickly if you win but at least you'll get some profits).
I remember asking The Northern Monkey (http://www.northernmonkeypunter.co.uk) if he would recommend me to subscribe if I had access to Betfair Exchange only, and he was very honest by saying that it would limit my profits a lot.

yeah mate sadly my routine is messed up , been waking up late missing some days ...etc but this should change starting next week when my hospital practice starts and my vacation ends so no worries
you are doing more than good and your 3rd party tracking stats showing solid returns , hope your performance and ROI will stay the same after we reach 1000 bets  :)


this is so true mate , but not 100% accurate
sadly most of the tipsters quote the highest price that one of the fiat bookies offer while they don't count on exchange rate and liquidity
I have had a long conversation with Irishassasin ( and I'm looking to bring him here to the forums and interview him in the coming days ) he told me that he bets only on betfair and some local shops cause he is limited in everysingle fiat site
what you can do is simply stick to the picks and the plays that you can find their recommended price on betfair or matchbook , if you can't find the odds of the play then just simply forget about the pick and wait for another day to come
this is how I have been doing and I really can't wait till I reach like 4K picks followed by horse racing guys , maybe this can give us more idea about this matter

BTW I just subscribed to Top Rated Jumps , Top Rated Tips and Top Rated Value . These accounts are the most profitable ones on tipstrr and they have many followers
let's see if I can profit following these with only betting on Betfair , Matchbook and Mbet.io

just a quick update , Ardeal ( owner of tipsters club ) message me yesterday on Twitter and asked me join again for 3 months
he promised that that he and other 4 tipsters from TC will start providing way better tips than before , and it's like a challenge for them to clear up the name since they all yielded me negative result

Ardeal is a good tipster I can't deny that , his stats are still up in bookieinsiders and you can see that he used to do way so good
I was frustrated by his last performance and to be honest I feel like he changed the way he tipped in the past , now I can see low variance picks that have decent odds unlike the past where he tipped a lot of tie breaks , outright and long shots
also he will be using mostly asian bookies ( pinnacle , sbo , betfair and matchbook ) and that's amazing since you can access these all over the world ( except USA ) and they don't limit winners

so tracing have been resumed to the followin tipsters : Ardeal , Basten , DaveBets , Alcuni and MCee ( who took JPP's place )

let's see how these 3 months will end  :D

Being speculative here but perhaps it is worth looking at this one > https://tradeonsports.co.uk/results/ To be honest I am quite surprised that he is quoting odds "based on laying the favourite just before the game starts". I thought the value was gone most of the time right before the start of the game, but I guess if you are being selective it is still possible to make money.

for some reason site isn't opening for me , but in general I have seen some such style on twitter where there are some apps that provide stats and people bet against the favor
not sure about this betting style but since it relies on betting right before the race where the liquidity is big it doesn't suit me at all
it can be less swingy but should be less rewarding as well , at the moment I follow 3 horse racing guys that are really doing good bu betting winner or EW but may start digging for new style in the coming days

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   247                                         +13.139              +312.373

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    79                                          -1.836                 -45.900

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            12                                          +3.150                  +15.750           

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          117                                        -30.530                -300.530          
 
tipstersclub       ( MCee )                                            74                                          -9.666                  -48.330          
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       305                                         -146.807             -843.826           
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      32                                          -12.259              -122.590                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            84                                          +52.960            +1,413.410

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                  68                                          +34.102             +342.932
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          199                                          +55.011           +1,192.340

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     513                                           +77.231          +1,491.839

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200   ( Stopped Tracking )

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
  
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          16                                                -1.962             -53.370

Tipstrr    ( Top Rated Jumps , Tips , Value )                       85                                                +75.971          +1,951.055

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WHAT A WEEEEEEK !!! around 2400 euros profit for last week and I'm at another all time high profit with my journey
a massive thank you to wadster and Irishassasin for telling me about Top Rated Jumps , another great tipster is added to the list and his last 12 months ROI is insane
followed him for only 85 picks so far and ended having around 90% ROI with these picks  ;D

obviously I ran above average but this guy have high volume horse racing tips with high ROI , so my expectation would be high for him and I guess he is the one that will be the star of this thread since he has high ROI and high volume  :D
so to be honest I'm totally relying on Top Rated Jumps , Irish Assasin ( tipstrr 4 accounts , Wadster and Punting4profit since they all have over 10% ROI which is so damn hard to achieve with other sports

so as I stated few days ago I added again 5 tipsters from tipstersclub , I really like the style of MCee and Davebets but Ardeal and Basten needs to prove that they can really be profitable
numbers aren't good at all to be honest for these 2 guys , taking Ardeal as an example his  stats from the last 1584 picks is -3.171% ROI with -318 units profit
his recommended bankroll is 500 units so you can see that a follower of him since the beginning would had lost over 60% of the bankroll + subscription fee which isn't low btw comparing it with the other guys that I follow with amazing stats

but due to respect to his old stats with bookieinsiders I will follow him with stop loss at -250 units , I won't risk more than that with him since I'm not anymore sure that he can really profit longrun since we already have a big sample of over 1000picks yielding negative
also I will only follow the picks that I can find the odds for it , for example if he tips something at X2.34 and I find it at X2.33 I won't bet that bet even the odds difference is so small

also after checking the numbers I found that I lost less Euros with him and that's what you can see if you compare this update with the last one I made , the units lost are the same but I did a wrong calculation with how much Euros lost

that's it for this week and hopefully I will have many more weeks to come like this , in case you want to follow some of the guys I follow well now you already have some good numbers to choose
focus on the bolded ones in OP since they are the most that I trust and they are all great tipsters , you should be profiting with these more than the other tipsters that I follow


also once I reach 5000 euros profit i will do another giveway same as the last one I made , to be eligible to win you should only have one constructive post in this thread and that's it  :D 

Since Top Rated Jumps has a 90% ROI, I may subscribe and start betting against his tips  :P just kidding, but indeed as you said it's impossible to sustain such result. By the way, are we on the same page, ROI or ROC (Return on Capital). 90% of ROC would mean current bankroll at 1900 starting from 1000 in just 85 picks, but I cannot see how a 90% ROI is possible, unless he released one or two winners at odds of 100 or 200?

Anyway, very encouraging indeed.

Congrats, on great week. That tipster with 90% ROI is absolutely insane. Ride the wagon while it lasts :)

I'll have to tweak my game to include more sports/leagues. I am betting mainly on football and tennis matches from the leagues/tournaments I watch and it is getting harder and harder to stay in the plus. This weekend was ok so far with some nice results from Premier league (C. Palace win) and some Davis Cup Matches (Cilic and Coric to win with handicaps on the Friday), hope it continues today.

the 90% ROI isn't accurate of course mate , it's just for me following only 85 picks and longterm it should correct itself
but in general this guy is a beast , he runs 3 accounts on tipstrr with 24.9%, 14.4% and 67% ROI so longterm I should expect something between 14 and 25%
you can check his 3 account here :
https://tipstrr.com/tipster/top-rated-jumps/about
https://tipstrr.com/tipster/toprated/about
https://tipstrr.com/tipster/top-rated-value/stats

one of the accounts is free the whole September if i remember right , I paid for the other 2 accounts 110 euros for 3 months
you can try it and see if it suits you , in general horse racing is really lucrative but it's dangerous as well
the more units you have the more safe you will feel , i wont be surprised if I busted like 1000 euros next week with racing  ;D

now since I follow 3 guys for horse racing it should be a little bit less swingy for me , but a time may come where the 3 guys do bad for a week or two and you will see me moaning here  ;D


thanks brotha , hope the hot run continues this week as well hehe
the whole point of this thread is to treat sportsbetting as an investment , with this thread I don't rely on myself at all except with money management so hopefully I can prove that people can invest in tipsters and sportsbetting the same way they invest in stocks and other stuffs
I won't call the results accurate until I reach something like +50K euros , then maybe I can say that yeah it's really possible to win by just following tipsters

OP has been updated with the following stats
Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   263                                         +13.186              +313.665

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    83                                          -2.046                 -51.150

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            13                                          -1.850                 -9.250          

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          127                                        -21.767                -217.670          
 
tipstersclub       ( MCee )                                           114                                         +37.630               +194.656          
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       324                                         -207.349             -1,176.807          
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      37                                          -12.159              -121.590                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            92                                          +41.960            +1,083.410

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                  84                                          +42.362             +442.052
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          217                                          +72.102           +1,603.004

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     543                                           +90.729          +1,802.293

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200   ( Stopped Tracking )

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
  
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          21                                                +1.804             +40.780

Tipstrr    ( Top Rated Jumps , Tips , Value )                       162                                               +62.028          +1,567.623

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profited a little bit over 150 euros last week , not that good but for sure better than losing
some tipsters had good runs and other had bad , so glad it was kinda balanced to end up with a little profit

I have subscribed to Craig on tipsters club , he is the best tipster in that site and the reason I didn't subscribe before is because I thought it was hard to follow his picks since he tip only golf and snooker but he confirmed that I should be fine following him with betfair exchange so I will add his results once I have some decided tips to post

Ardeal now reached -207 units and as I stated before if we reach -250 units I will definitely stop following him for good , even if the performance started to get better I feel not safe at all following and facing such big losing period
I'm ok with losing a little but the signs aren't good to be honest , so let's wait and see

I guess I won't add any more tipsters for now , actually I will start eliminating some especially the ones who are losing or winning a little since it's money and time consuming to follow certain tipster

I can confirm that Betfair Exchange is great for Golf betting, very good liquidity and great odds in general. Snooker odds are alright but only on the Match odds market, you will not find any liquidity on side markets (frame betting).

A good week all things considered, as you said 150 euros is better than a loss  :P

yeah not bad actually , was able to place the bets on top 20 markets and snooker matchups but as you stated the frames betting is still a problem
actually I wasn't able to find frame betting on orbit exchange , so not sure if betfair offers these or just the version I use doesn't offer them but was able only to bet ML on snooker

I will stick to what I can find and hopefully these will be winners long term  :D

OP is now updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   281                                         -1.594              -92.785

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    84                                          -3.046                 -76.150

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            14                                          -6.850                 -34.250          

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          139                                        -28.484             -284.840          
 
tipstersclub       ( MCee )                                           155                                         +12.595               +56.964          
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       361                                         -111.309              -648.587          
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      41                                          -15.744              -157.440

tipstersclub          ( Craig )                                            10                                           -0.521              -10.420

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                           104                                         +38.160            +969.410

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                 96                                          +58.204             +632.156
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                       236                                          +66.692           +1,462.344

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)   581                                           +96.682          +1,930.076

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200   ( Stopped Tracking )

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
  
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          21                                                +1.804             +40.780

Tipstrr    ( Top Rated Jumps , Tips , Value )                    217                                               +36.871          +875.805

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been a tough week that costed me 800 euros total , well these runs come from time to time but hope it won't last for over a week
overall all the tipsters have been doing bad last week except Ardeal who managed to get me up again since the time I started following him again and for tipstrr 4 accounts ( Lucky7s , Gentleman, LowBlow and MAGA )

Top Rated accounts are getting some real swing now , but can't say I didn't expect that cause his style is high risk / high reward and we saw that how he profited me around 1000 euros just in one day
so can't complain since the results are still profitable and the ROI is still over 10% , just hoping to get a great day like that one  :D

surprisingly bookieinsiders are now on negative , they are facing now the 2nd big downswing this year but hopefully the can recover it
they have acceptable ROI over a large sample so I guess they should be fine

thats it for this week , I will update as usual next monday

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just posting to let you know that I will start updating the read biweekly instead of weekly , weekly results don't represent much change so honestly I see no point in updating weekly
I will see how the results change biweekly , if there is much action going on I will stick to it and if not I will start updating monthly instead

lost the files that I had for tipsters thanks to the windows update , took my laptop to one of my IT friends and he couldn't recover the files
luckily I track here as well so I only lost data for 11 or 12 days , so I don't have the full stats for the last two weeks
I will start tracking again based on the info I have on this thread , so no much to update tomorrow and I won't update the thread tomorrow but will do the next sunday

apologies for the tipsters that usually keep an eye on my thread , but didn't expect this to happen and I don't store this info on other hard since it's not that important

Can you please post the links to the websites of the profitable pickers on this list? I'm having a hard time finding some of these people. 

The only tipster worth paying is bettingresource.com  Even if you don't use their tips, you can use their free spreadsheet and money management strategy for your own picks. By far the best thing that can happen to any sports bettor.

sure mate I probably should had done that before , I will probably put the links on my next update next to each tipster
the table need to be more organized as well , but never actually tried to make a table here  ;D
here are the links for most profitable ones :

Wadster ( tennis ) : premium : https://twitter.com/WadsterTips
                             free :   https://tipstrr.com/tipster/theshortlist/about

Punting4Profit :  https://twitter.com/Secondwincome

bookieinsiders : https://www.bookieinsiders.com/

for tipsters that has tipstrr next to their name just open tipstrr.com and search for the name in the search box , if you need anything feel free to psot here or pm me


glad you shared it with me mate , the results look fantastic but the price is really high for me
do you have any idea what's a good bankroll to follow them to cover the subscription and make some profit ?
also when it comes to such tipsters I'm always worried about odds , do you end up getting the odds they quote when they send the picks or you find lower odds ?

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   303                                         -2.709              -123.448

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    84                                          -3.046                 -76.150

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            17                                          -7.100                 -35.500           

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          150                                        -7.284             -72.840         
 
tipstersclub       ( MCee )                                           196                                         +40.795               +212.064           
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       393                                         -166.232              -950.664           
   
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      44                                          -12.734              -127.340

tipstersclub          ( Craig )                                            10                                           -0.521              -10.420

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                           115                                         +48.520            +1,280.210

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                 118                                          +48.317             +513.512
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                       274                                          +52.849           +1,102.426

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)   741                                           +123.080          +2,590.026

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200   ( Stopped Tracking )

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
 
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          34                                                +4.314             +103.530

Tipstrr    ( Top Rated Jumps , Tips , Value )                    265                                               +8.200          +87.353

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October been tough with much ups and downs , glad that the loss was that small

as you can see many of the tipsters been doing horrible , especially top rated jumps and bookieinsiders but was lucky enough to follow guys like Lucky7s , Gentleman , Low Blow , Maga and Wadster
without these guys the results would had been just terrific

looking at how top rated jumps been doing I'm really considering stop following him for several reason , first of all I can't deny that they guy is really good and two of the guys that I trust recommended him but now looking at the stats we are at only 8.2 units profit while his all time high for me was 76 units which means he lost around 70 units within 40 days and this really scares me
I mean what can be a good bankroll for him ? max recommended units I know is 150 units and he already busted like half of that with like 40 days so it really scares me
the 2nd reason is that his track is through tipstrr site , and tipstrr track the results with best odds guaranteed which means that if he tips a horse at X11 for example and the odds right before the race start jumps to 20 for example then the pick will be treated as X20

I find tracking results with BOG is the most stupid thing , cause let's be honest these bookies that offer BOG are the typical fiat bookies that will limit you right after you win few grands
so the tipster himself shouldn't have BOG available and he should be betting on exchanges , so don't get why they track their results with BOG which leads to false higher ROI

I will give top rated jumps a try for the next month and I will see how things work out

the thing is that I like Lucky7s , Gentleman, Low Blow and Maga the most since these accounts show steady returns and they are the first portfolio for me that reaches over 2K profit
so I may just stop following top rated and add the stake to these accounts , still not sure cause I said I will be stupid if I say top rated jumps isn't good but I just don't feel safe following

also big thanks bitcoinpunter who recommended a picks site , I really appreciate all the people who give advice here since the purpose of this thread is to share info about different tipsters so maybe we all make money together

 

Hi mate.
Looks like a strong service (horse racing again  ;) ) > http://www.racingproofing.com/backingtipsters/bettingmanmainline.html
Also see it is possible to bet at Betfair Starting Price (not sure he has slots available, as he takes a maximum of 50 subscribers to keep the odds achievable). Definitely worth a look.

thanks a lot mate , I checked his twitter and he mentioned that he is about to launch a site so I will for it
at the moment I subscribed to another horse racing tipster called HODL , he runs a service on tipstrr and he tips few hours before the race start also he is profitable with BSP

BTW I have no access to BSP as well  ;D cause the exchange I use isn't betfair but it has the same markets and liquidity , it's for Asians but it has no BSP

OP has been updated with the following stats :

Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   322                                         -2.718              -123.695

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    84                                          -3.046                 -76.150

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            21                                          -6.800                 -34.000           

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          152                                        +10.616             +106.160         ( Stopped tracking )     
 
tipstersclub       ( MCee )                                           230                                         -69.925               -396.896         ( Stopped tracking )       
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       399                                         -165.392              -946.044        ( Stopped tracking )     
   
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      47                                          -7.974               -50.340

tipstersclub          ( Craig )                                            10                                           -0.521              -10.420

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                           117                                         +46.520            +1,220.210

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                 118                                          +48.317             +513.512
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                       300                                          +52.323           +1,088.750

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)   876                                           +104.977          +2,137.451

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200   ( Stopped Tracking )

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
 
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          66                                                -1.250             -35.570
https://twitter.com/damirkarati

Tipstrr    ( Top Rated Jumps , Tips , Value )                    282                                               -1.574          -181.433    ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr ( HODL )                                                           107                                              +14.854            +326.788         
 
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the downswing continues and lost around 950 euros in the past two weeks
while downswings happen , but I guess this means that some changes should be applied so I decided to narrow the tipsters that I follow untill I reach the 5000 euros profit range again

first of all I decided to stop following Ardeal , Mcee and Basten from tipstersclub
Ardeal now has 1827 decided picks and still not showing profit but yeilding -1.99% ROI so even if he came back from the loss the variance involved doesn't worth it actually
Basten has been doing max 3 units bets in the past , but now he is doing a lot of high stakes betting and yet he is still showing a little profit but there is luck factor and he did several max bets where he won , so without these wins he would be in negative

Mcee looks like a complete gambler to me , after a little bit over 200 picks for him I realized that it's hard ( if not impossible ) to profit with him
he makes a lot of bets where I can't even understand how he can find value in these plays , for example last Thursday he made 17 picks !!! I can't even understand how someone can find 17 plays to post in a single day in soccer
for me the tipster job is to only post about the plays that has big value , he shouldn't pick every bet he makes cause this is more gambling than tipping and anyways after 240 bets he is showing -6.53% ROI

not to mention that tipstersclub keeps adding and removing tipsters the way they like without even mentioning the reasons or the stats for the tipsters
also most of these tipsters don't even have a twitter account to communicate with or to get an idea about their reputation

the only good two at the moment in tipstersclub are Davebets and Alcuni , both of them showing solid knowledge and pick the games that they are really sure about so I will continue with these even they have low betting volume but it's way better than insanely high volume

also I stopped following Top Rate Jumps and his other two accounts , they are good but variance is really high and I realized this doesn't suit me at my current bankroll level

I subscribe to Betrush premium but I'm still really new to it , so I will post about it in my next update

I added HODL , he had 3 free months on tipstrr and he showed solid returns , my results with him are looking good so far even I missed a lot of winners in the last 2 days due to not being online at the time he sends but from now on I should catch up with him

that's it for now , hopefully in next update the numbers will moon  :)

Hi Sy,

Since yesterday I also opened an account at Tipstrr.

By scrolling through your thread and all posts I read you do not really are a fan of high volume. But maybe I convince you to follow me even though I am a high volume bettor.
In my business life I learned the most powerful tool in finance and that compounding profits. So I rather pick high volume and make less profits in a single bet but in this way it is easier to to build steady profits in the long run and avoid huge downswings in the short run.

My favourite sports are European Soccer and Darts. But out of those 2 Darts is my favourite. I have been playing in the BDO circuit myself for some years and did Q school for pdc but didn't achieved to win a tour card. I have personal friends that do play in PDC. For example Kim and Ronny Huybrechts are close friends of me and Dimitri van den Bergh ( current pdc youth champion of the world and in this years final as well) is one of my best friends. So I can say I am heavily involved in the Darts scene.

I do not beg you to follow me but I offer it to you. At this moment because I only got started I provide all my tips in a free profile. So everyone can follow my picks. As soon as I build some kind of reputation I will start a premium portfolio as well to place all my tips and volume in the free one will decrease. But as everyone first trust needs to be build and results have to be shown.

You should even do not have to put real money on my picks. Just follow my profile. My main intention is to build reputation. I just want to show you my capabilities. So if everything turns out well I have a reputable BTCT member to vouch for my results.

Regards,

PS you can hit me a pm for my Tipstrr profile. I am not that guy to spread my link or affiliate link in another members thread.

interesting mate , I see you have opened a thread about your tipstrr accounts so I will check them out
I never placed a single darts bet in my life and never followed a guy who tips darts , so I'm not sure if I can find the selections with the bookies that I use since I'm limited to only bitcoin bookies and asianbookies offered by asian connect

do you know if it's possible to follow darts picks and get the odds you get with these sites only ?
this reminds of an ex professional snooker player tipster that I know , he is killing it with like 20% ROI tipping golf and snooker but the thing is that I tried following him and wasn't able to find most of the markets that he picks

sorry to bump this up , but I have received 2 pms in last month asking me about the tipsters that I follow
I stopped updating here mainly cause of lack of interactions and the list here is outdated , if you have any question please let me know through pm and I can help you choosing some tipsters depending on the bookies that you have access to

I forgot to lock the thread in the past so I will lock it now