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A person sees these stories, like the seven cops arrested in Baltimore today for robbing people, but you never seem to hear the people who were robbed saying "Hey some cops robbed me".

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-baltimore-police-indicted-20170301-story.html

A side note for those who worry cops are underpaid. Here are the salaries of the 7 cops arrested for robberies.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-baltimore-police-who-are-they-20170301-story.html

Detective Rayam earns $71,000 a year. He made $30,800 in overtime last year.
Detective Hersl earns $77,600 a year. He made $66,600 in overtime last year.
Sgt. Jenkins earns $85,400 a year. He made $83,300 in overtime last year.
Detective Hendrix earns $69,300 a year. He made $52,400 in overtime last year.
Detective Taylor earns $66,800 a year. He made $56,200 in overtime last year.
Detective Ward earns $72,700 a year. He made $62,500 in overtime last year.
Detective Gondo earns $71,400. He made $29,100 in overtime last year.

Most of the people they were robbing did not make as much as them.

Also, for people not familiar with the U.S. justice system, none of these cops is likely to get a lengthy sentence. Each of them will probably get a milder sentence than a non cop charged with a mild crime. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bad-apples-16-cops-1-dept-allowed-retire-quota-charges/

None of them is likely to ever work again as a police officer in a major city though, something to keep in mind when you are in a small town.

I was forced by homeland "security" and the department of "justice" to fork over $80,000 in cash and Bitcoins to the Federal asset forfeiture fund.  Does that count?

Since those people are working for groups that have the words "security" and "justice" then it's not really theft now, is it. You should have put on one of their costumes and added the word "liberty" so you could keep your money and then take theirs to boot.

The robbing actually depends because over here, law enforcement agencies and not only cops rob on a daily basis without anything to stop them although their authorities makes us believe that they don't condone such behaviour but we all know everything is scam. Where a cops will stay at the motor park in the name of security only to extort motorists.

Yes, yes I do. The cops got me for my rent when I was arrested. Was driving with unknown dead tags. Not only did I get my car searched, but all the money in my wallet mysteriously didn't make it to my property inventory (went to bail myself out with the money I knew I was arrested with, was told I had 0 dollars at my time of arrest.) You can't really fight shit like this, the state wins in situations like these, but to be honest, this is one of the reasons I embraced bitcoin. I'll be damned if I allow the state to steal my money again.

This remind me of the police force here in the Philippines. Though I would not say every cop is corrupt, that is definitely how the public view them. There are even cases of people complaining of missing stuff during house searches. The gov't's "war on drugs" definitely emboldened these corrupt cop since they can just always say it's drug-related and the people wouldn't bother. Just last year they killed a Korean businessman, strangled him in a car parked just outside the national police chief's office. They took him from his home for "investigation" about drugs (as said by the maid who they dropped of somewhere away from where they killed him). They promptly had the body cremated even before they received the ransom (and even dared ask for more), slapping a different name on it. Surprise, surprise the owner of the crematorium is an ex-cop.  


That's horrible. Hoping they'll get their sweet just desserts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/world/asia/philippines-police-south-korean-killing.html?_r=0

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/29/philippines-disband-police-anti-drugs-units-war-rodrigo-duterte-south-korea

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/philippine-police-murder-south-korean-businessman-before-collecting-ransom

It would be interesting to know if ransom's like that are used to pay for killings like http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/02/22/17/nujp-wants-probe-into-death-of-duterte-critic but the amount of money spent on hitmen, just from published reports, seems to be beyond what ransom's could fund.

My guess is that "killing drug addicts" is a cover for "killing certain drug dealers".

It is not likely the demand for drugs would ever disappear, and prices probably rise during these death campaigns. The only place that to my knowledge completely eradicated a drug problem was Afghanistan, which by August 2001 had eliminated opium poppy cultivation from the entire country, a success that shocked even the most experienced anti drug experts.

It's not a rare occurrence. There have been quite a lot of these all over the global, but it happens more where the whole government system is really corrupt.

In my country is extremely common for cops to be criminals themselves, that is why when I think of persons in the first world complaining about their police officers, I think they do not know the way a truly corrupt police force looks like.

But in Baltimore, where that news article is from, most of the cops in poor areas steal. They arrested 7 of them because they are getting a lot of scrutiny but more cops there are like those 7 than not.

Remember that girl who got stopped with bad tags on her car in Baltimore. She had never been arrested in her life, but the plice wanted to make an example of her. So when she didn't go to court for driving without tags they sent a swat team, to her house and claimed she was holding her kid hostage.

She went online and livestreamed on facebook, talking to her kid and asking the kid with a laugh if she was holding him hostage. The kid said something like "Why are those men out there with guns".

People on Facebook started saying wtf

So the police cut off her internet and went in and killed her. That was in Baltimore, USA http://thefreethoughtproject.com/woman-killed-son-shot-after-raid-baltimore/

Another Baltimore story from a week ago http://thefreethoughtproject.com/terrifying-video-shows-cops-pummel-small-boy-screams-fear/

In my country the police always associated with crime. There was only a small period when in some cities, the police put criminals in jail, and she undertook to engage in criminal activity

A lot of people who get robbed by cops will have this fear of getting rejected by the justice system. This will result in no one reporting these crimes and considering them as a major offense. I've never experienced it personally but I've heard a lot of stories about it. It's scary and sad at the same time. The same people who should be protecting us, are the same people who are also committing this crime.

Yes, I know a lot of people who have been robbed by the police one time or another in their life, however, they did not report it because they know nothing will happen and maybe the police will just turn it around and said that they are the one who robbed them arrest, handcuffed and throw in jail. But its a sad news hearing the police doing this instead of them protecting us from criminals.

Could be. The reason people are claiming the president had a hand in these killings is that there were reports of similar methods of execution in his home city when he was a mayor and it seemed to have followed him here into the capital.

Impunity makes people even more capable of crimes. The police always had the opportunity to do bad things, but it all depended on the identity of the policeman. Once they saw video surveillance cameras, like when they searched a jewelry store, police filled their pockets with jewelry. They did not know that they were being photographed. It was super proof.

You bet it does!  The propensity to rob people increases when the haul is larger and the likelihood of getting punished decreases.  Earlier, before seeing this thread, I posted the following and as you can see I used your case as an example.  Seems appropriate to this thread.


I really do have hope that Trump will not wish to go down as an Obama-like president who allowed graft and corruption to flourish and does have a fundamental respect for the rule of law, and thus that this kind of thing will not be common on his watch.  At least at the federal level.  Only time will tell.

This is one of the things that isn't really highly publicizied based on the sheer fact that it's going to be something that doesn't have much evidence relating to it and not much backing it. I'm not going to say that all cops do these kind of crimes based on the fact that they're usually not going to be caught but it's something they can easily get away with, with ease.

Who is going to attempt to fight all of the resources of the Police Department from their state, county, and so on when all they're fighting on is a he said she said kind of thing which we all know doesn't hold up in court for shit. The only thing you may get lucky on if this officer has a lot of reports of doing this crime which may end up having some people take the claim seriously.


Then again, who reports a crime committed by the police?

It makes me sick that the Police today behaves like SS Nazis.


The Nazis put so called "criminals" in concentration camps, however the biggest corrupt fuckers were amongst the SS himself.

So much that after the they did a corruption review, they found out that all Nazis were corrupt thiefs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Court_Main_Office#Investigations_by_Judge_Georg_Konrad_Morgen



So the Nazis portrayed themselves as the heroes of europe, and the law & order, who put "criminals" in camps.


While those "criminals" who they put in the camps were for non-violent crimes. Which is similar to what is happening in the US prison system, most prisoners are there for non-violent crimes.

And then it turns out that the SS Nazis where the biggest corrupt fuckers of them all.


Now isn't this similar to how the fascist police in the US operates?

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ylS6gtMY9eQ/TWbcw6UnkQI/AAAAAAAADuc/3n8RxJwKUT8/s400/riot%2Bpolice%2Bpitsburg.jpeg

They look like the Blackshirts, which was the Italian Fascist Paramilitary (counterpart to the Nazi Brownshirts)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts

It is not the "people" who are claiming that "he had a hand" in the killings in Davao. Duterte himself have said that he has killed many drug addicts and criminals there, when he was the mayor of that city.

I have known a drugdealer that had his door kicked in for interrogation regarding a crime he witnessed. The two cops checked his appartment, found half a pound of cocaine in a cupboard and took it, he was never charged for possesion.

Half a kilo is a lot! I wonder how much money he paid out? It is a pity of course. These should be put in jail. How many lives broken because of drugs. It seems to me that the police are worse than drug dealers.

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June 20, 2016
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/1978022/dead-or-alive-suspected-drug-dealers-killed-philippines
"Philippine police killed 11 suspected drug dealers during operations at the weekend... "

Dec 16, 2016
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/philippines-drugs-china/
"In President Duterte's war on drugs, there's an elephant in the room. Even as he seeks closer ties with Beijing, the mainland is his country's main source of narcotics - and drug-control officials say little is being done to stanch the flow."

*cough*

http://www.wanttoknow.info/militarysmuggledheroin
Most of this went through Japan and the Philippines. The military bases there are strategically very important to a few people. Likewise the Chinese bases in respective countries.

Nobody wants to invade anywhere. The militaries of the world are run by a bunch of old smack smugglers with odd senses of humour. 

Duterte he is a criminal and deserves life imprisonment. I can not imagine how, after such recognition, it can communicate with the leaders of other countries. Except that Putin can afford such connections.

If only to see how ten or twenty years ago there was corruption in the law enforcement bodies, it was possible to be horrified. Now it seems that there are fewer such crimes. But it only seems so. The simple fact is that even the police have become smarter and their crimes are more thought out.

Burtw, I'm curious about one thing.

Every story has two sides.

Most people would look at your case and say that it was a case of "law enforcers" trying to keep busy, to justify their job. If you hire a hundred cops to chase ten criminals eventually the extra cops are going to look for some way to keep busy.

Looking at your website and some links, your basic "crime" seems to be

"He’d run afoul of the federal Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), authorized by the Patriot Act to “safeguard the financial system from illicit use and combat money laundering and promote national security,” by trading electronic bitcoins without having filed a business license." http://www.dolpress.com/news/2016/4/17/no-greater-tyranny

But if you were to ask the people who attacked you, they obviously would have to have a better excuse for what they did.

The question is, if you asked the smartest among your attackers to justify themselves, what would they say? For example had you been involved in some activities involving organized crime or thefts or violent crimes or whatever? What excuse would they give for their actions, honestly?

 ;D ;D you never live in caribean? i was robbed by police multiple times

in most countries in the caribean a  police earn $100 / month

Policemen are not clean in hand in any country. I think everyone understands this. Perhaps some are engaged in looting, while others control drugs, and some help bandits and cover them up. There are all kinds of criminal activities in law enforcement agencies. Now think about how many such policemen have robbed taxpayers.

I used to be told that US police officers are the least corrupt ones in the world but it's just a misconception. It's true that when police officers are arrested, their sentence is the least and most of them are again employed by the Government but on a lower post. Most of them are not even sentenced but are just suspended from duty (and that too if the media published the case). It's the same everywhere but more in countries where ministers are itself criminals.

WOW They are making obed $70k a year? Nice! In Europe cops earn less than half of this! How greedy you have to be to apply for a job that requires you to uphold the law and protect people just to steal from them and break the law yourself :-\

I'm guessing consumption is legal on private property. You were on a state property and that's why they approached you. How much did you pay?

I'm not from America. In my country, a lot of these cases. My friend tossed the drugs and ammunition with the purpose of obtaining bribes. There have been cases when cops have seized mobile phones.

If bribe can be said to be the same as robbing from someone then I am definitely a victim as it is not only the police but all enforcement agencies down to the traffic controllers all over the country. In that country its even a verifiable source to see what is being earned but here, no one cares as you even see public officers leaving beyond their means but there is nothing you can do about it and thats how bad the situation is.

In my country police take bribes. They prosecute, and then bribes them close. Officials have their opportunities of getting bribes. Cops are representatives of the grassroots corruption.

In Ghana, its a well known fact that the police are involved in most robberies, for instance it came to light that with the help of the police who supplied the others with Police uniforms, they attacked a Gold dealer for illegally procuring gold, When he asked for their arrest  warrant, they couldn't provide it, his shouts brought people nearby who took them to the Police Station.

Apart from a few Western nations and developed Asian nations such as Japan, South Korea and Singapore, the cops are corrupt to the core everywhere. In Africa and the former-USSR, it is beyond the tolerable limit.

There are times when the police are confiscating fake laptops, phone, tvs, and ebery gadget that is sold on the market, they broadcasted it to the tv and some of the people, said that not of them are burned but the police use it.

Unfortunately cops are representatives of the people. What kind of society are police officers. More than being watched by authorities, and once this happens then politicians in both countries are the same. Themselves guilty.

That is also true. Some say that if the people react strongly to bribing by the cops, then this culture will stop. But most of the time, the ordinary people are afraid that the cops will harm them if they don't pay the bribes.

An employee of my family's business (Hardware, Plumbing and HVAC) stole a lot of things over time. His roommate eventually turned him in. Some items had serial numbers which could be tracked to prove they were stolen. The police confiscated everything he had stolen and said after the trial we'd get the things back.

After the trial we contacted the police about the items, they said they had already sold them at an auction.  We didn't even get back what they had earned at auction.