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Title: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: canah17 on March 07, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: GreenBits on March 07, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

In the USA, the president functions as a part of the government, as head of the the executive branch. This is one of three branches of our government, which all have equal power. He can only make very broad policy decisions, but has complete control over the American war machine. Most laws need to pass through the legislative branch, the arm responsible for passing laws. But the executive order can be used to great effect, as these zing merrily past the legislative branch into actuality. Like the travel ban, for example. Congress would have never let that pass, had it been a bill (see my avatar). It was too poorly written, which is why it was appealed in its first iteration.

But, the legislative branch has the power to impeach the president. This won't happen, unless some very, very serious shit comes to light (like the Russian or Azerbaijan affairs), because there is a majority of members that are the same party as Trump. So, the government is stronger than the president, as he is just a government employee, but because his party controls 2 of the 3 arms of the government, he is beyond reproach at the moment.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: ValeryBark on March 07, 2017, 05:13:46 PM
The President is commander in chief of the army and Navy and police of the several States, when she was called up for active service of the United States. He has the right to:

- require the opinion, in writing, from the highest officials in each of the Executive departments on any matter relating to their official duties;

- to grant a reprieve and pardon for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment (not only private, but officials at other levels);

 the advice and consent of the Senate to make treaties, subject to their approval by two thirds of present senators;

- to fill all vacancies in the period between sessions of the Senate, giving identity to positions, which expire at the end of its next session;

- in extreme cases may convene both houses of Congress, or any of them;

in the event of a dispute between houses of Congress at the time of transfer meetings transfer them to such time as deemed appropriate.

The President of the United States upon the advice and consent of the Senate appoints the Cabinet of the President of the United States (includes 15 Ministers), ambassadors, other official representatives and consuls, judges of the Supreme court and all other officers of the United States. He periodically give Congress information about the state of the Union and recommend to its consideration such measures as he deems necessary and appropriate. The US President accepts ambassadors and other official representatives, is obliged to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, ascertains positions of all officers of the United States.

The President signs adopted by the U.S. Congress bills, after which they enter into force and become law, or veto them. To overcome a veto Congress must assemble at least two-thirds votes in each chamber.

According to the U.S. Constitution, the power to declare war is vested in the Congress. However, pursuant to the Resolution on war powers resolution of 1973, the President can give the order to start military action without the approval of Congress. In accordance with the resolution the President can give the order to start military action “only in the case of a Declaration of war, special permission in the form of the Statute of the national emergency created by an attack on the United States, their territories or possessions or armed forces.” And before you use military force, the President “whenever possible” must consult with Congress. If hostilities began, the President within 48 hours, shall submit to the Congress a report in writing. Without a Congress to sanction military action could last no longer than 60 days. In extreme cases, “to ensure fast and safe withdrawal” of the us armed forces, this period may be extended for another 30 days. However, if Congress would adopt a coincident or joint resolution containing the demand to stop military action, the President is required to submit prior to the expiration of both the first and second period.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on March 07, 2017, 05:19:41 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Challenger2015 on March 07, 2017, 05:28:29 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on March 07, 2017, 05:46:38 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  ;)


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Forester618 on March 07, 2017, 05:57:31 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  ;)
LOL. Is Russia ruled by law? What wars elite? What are you talking about? Without the approval of Putin's Russia, nothing is done. All the opposition was killed. What is this if not a dictatorship?


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: AT-N-T101 on March 08, 2017, 05:17:42 AM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  ;)
Countries from the post-Soviet space is very difficult to get rid of those areas that were guided by the alliance. Although there are countries that have escaped this fate, even in Lithuania there are politicians who think in the old way and would like to return everything.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Vikash kumar on March 08, 2017, 12:38:46 PM
As I know that president is only the status or rank which is given by government so we can say that government is stronger than president .president is impressed with government they have to fallowed the all rules given by government .Government can remove the president from their rank by prosecution .


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Xester on March 08, 2017, 12:47:21 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

When we speak of government and the president there are no things to discuss. The president is the head of the government and cannot be a president of a country without a government. A government is the system that is made for the purpose of serving the people. It is made by the people to serve the people. In a government the president as well as all the officials and political entities are not powerful but the wielder of power are the people because the real government are the people.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Lieldoryn on March 08, 2017, 01:26:26 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

When we speak of government and the president there are no things to discuss. The president is the head of the government and cannot be a president of a country without a government. A government is the system that is made for the purpose of serving the people. It is made by the people to serve the people. In a government the president as well as all the officials and political entities are not powerful but the wielder of power are the people because the real government are the people.
The President is not the head of government. You are wrong. The head of government is Prime Minister. Another thing is that in authoritarian States the dictator controls the government and the Prime Minister became a nominal position.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: signature200 on March 08, 2017, 02:29:32 PM
The U.S. Constitution provides the principle of separation of powers into three branches: legislative, Executive and judicial. This system is designed to balance all the institutions of power, not giving advantages to any of them, and keep thereby the current democratic system. The Executive branch of the Federal government is headed by the President of the United States, who is the head of state and government.
The US President is elected for four years, and one person cannot hold this post more than two terms.
Only after the President signs the laws passed by Congress go into effect. The President also has the right of veto, to overcome which the Congress can only collecting two-thirds vote in both houses.
The US President is the Supreme commander of the Armed forces of the United States.
The US President directly supervises the activities of all agencies of the Executive branch of the Federal government


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: freebutcaged on March 08, 2017, 02:52:00 PM
There is no president or government just the new world order illuminati-freemason cult which is a multinational group to not only have complete control over their own lives but having control and influence the entire world. grow up people-wake the hell up.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Casanova18 on March 08, 2017, 02:58:14 PM
There is no president or government just the new world order illuminati-freemason cult which is a multinational group to not only have complete control over their own lives but having control and influence the entire world. grow up people-wake the hell up.
Do you believe in global conspiracy? But what about the coming to power of Trump? It seems to me that he doesn't look like a person who can enter into a world government. I don't think they are interested in to destroy the entire world order.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: gabmen on March 08, 2017, 03:04:29 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Well i think the government is not controlled by the president in the first place. Sometimes the presidents just acts as puppets for more powerful persons in the government so i have to say that its the government that has more power here.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on March 08, 2017, 03:08:23 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Well i think the government is not controlled by the president in the first place. Sometimes the presidents just acts as puppets for more powerful persons in the government so i have to say that its the government that has more power here.
No i think president can control the government since he is the president if he is doing a right way no fraud or corrupt as president he can control the governments will like taxes. like here in my country maybe in the other country they can control president but can not control government by the president..


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: DeanShow on March 08, 2017, 03:49:47 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Well i think the government is not controlled by the president in the first place. Sometimes the presidents just acts as puppets for more powerful persons in the government so i have to say that its the government that has more power here.
No i think president can control the government since he is the president if he is doing a right way no fraud or corrupt as president he can control the governments will like taxes. like here in my country maybe in the other country they can control president but can not control government by the president..
It all depends on the model of the state. There are States where the President has very great power, and there are States in which the President has only representative functions and does not affect the policy of the country. Not knowing what specifically had in mind the country you can argue until infinity and all will be right.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: karmamiu on March 12, 2017, 02:08:37 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D


As far as i know Government is much powerful than the President,President is only a public image of the Government besides that Presidents/Leaders in each country have a so called political advisers which are more powerful than them,Behind the public image of a leader there are the one's controlling them like puppets giving them such's commands.You may be right that the Government has the power to impeached the President coz Government is composed of not only politicians but also people living in the country.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: BADecker on March 12, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
Abraham Lincoln said, "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/abrahamlin101395.html

Be patient with the information on Karl Lentz. Karl shows us that the Government (the people) are stronger than the President. Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law."

8)


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: StefanReed on March 12, 2017, 08:42:14 PM
Abraham Lincoln said, "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/abrahamlin101395.html

Be patient with the information on Karl Lentz. Karl shows us that the Government (the people) are stronger than the President. Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law."

8)
Not all people are able to resist. In many countries it really is. Usually if this happens then there is a dictatorship. Look for example how this happening in Russia.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on March 12, 2017, 09:30:25 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  ;)
LOL. Is Russia ruled by law? What wars elite? What are you talking about? Without the approval of Putin's Russia, nothing is done. All the opposition was killed. What is this if not a dictatorship?

How old are you? You know, Russia was around before you were born. It was around before Putin was born also. Heresy, I know, since Putin is Russia and Russia is Putin according to your favourite television news network.

Modern russian politics is not that different from early Roman empire, or before that Macedon - that is if can take post-communist era as a precedent. Ruler appoints successor, which then has to gain popular approval. Laws are made, amended or eliminated to reflect shifting power balance between different groups in Kremlin.

I dont think you are going to understand, since your perception of politics started and ended with work of Tolkien.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: Lieldoryn on March 12, 2017, 10:37:31 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  ;)
LOL. Is Russia ruled by law? What wars elite? What are you talking about? Without the approval of Putin's Russia, nothing is done. All the opposition was killed. What is this if not a dictatorship?

How old are you? You know, Russia was around before you were born. It was around before Putin was born also. Heresy, I know, since Putin is Russia and Russia is Putin according to your favourite television news network.

Modern russian politics is not that different from early Roman empire, or before that Macedon - that is if can take post-communist era as a precedent. Ruler appoints successor, which then has to gain popular approval. Laws are made, amended or eliminated to reflect shifting power balance between different groups in Kremlin.

I dont think you are going to understand, since your perception of politics started and ended with work of Tolkien.
To compare the age of the country with the person's age is not correct. Russia is a country with an authoritarian ruler. Putin does not allow democratic elections to take place. The Russians don't want to change anything. Their ability to resist was suppressed in the days of Stalin.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: LTU_btc on March 12, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
It depends mainly on country. In some countries like Belarus, Russia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan all power is on president hands. But there was one paradox: when Russian president was Medvedev and prime minister Putin, all power unofficially was in hands of Putin, was only puppet. In mostly European countries main job of presidents is foreign politics, but still, they have veto right to not accept new laws made by parliament (laws are offered by government). In some countries like Germany president almost don't have power.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: ustradebitcoin on March 13, 2017, 12:29:35 AM
i think the president , the president control the army, means he can do anything

us president
dr president
ht president
vn president

they can do anything cause they control the army.

you can see that in Venezuela and most countrie in latin america the power is on President hands.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: BADecker on March 13, 2017, 04:32:03 AM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me :D

Your question could possibly be more vague  :)

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  ;)
LOL. Is Russia ruled by law? What wars elite? What are you talking about? Without the approval of Putin's Russia, nothing is done. All the opposition was killed. What is this if not a dictatorship?

How old are you? You know, Russia was around before you were born. It was around before Putin was born also. Heresy, I know, since Putin is Russia and Russia is Putin according to your favourite television news network.

Modern russian politics is not that different from early Roman empire, or before that Macedon - that is if can take post-communist era as a precedent. Ruler appoints successor, which then has to gain popular approval. Laws are made, amended or eliminated to reflect shifting power balance between different groups in Kremlin.

I dont think you are going to understand, since your perception of politics started and ended with work of Tolkien.
To compare the age of the country with the person's age is not correct. Russia is a country with an authoritarian ruler. Putin does not allow democratic elections to take place. The Russians don't want to change anything. Their ability to resist was suppressed in the days of Stalin.

But. Consider that the rulers of Russia are people. They need air to breathe, water to drink, food to eat, etc.  This means that they follow many of the natural laws of people in the things that they do. It also means that they have to have a following to get things done... because they are not strong enough alone to do much more than any other people.

The point is the following. Their military is part of their following. Why does each individual soldier remain a soldier to do what Russian leaders say? Simply because of fear that they will be executed by their fellow soldiers at the command of the leader(s).

In other words, most all military people suffer from Stockholm Syndrome, just like the Muslims regarding Islam. If the Russian leaders are shrewd enough, they can gradually drag more and more of their people into this syndrome through the military. It's like that all over.

8)


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: chixka000 on March 13, 2017, 06:40:01 AM
Now i have to tell you the reality of the politics. Either president or government bodies may be much weaker than private groups. Your president might be a puppet nor your government


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: grewak8700 on March 13, 2017, 06:59:55 AM
The majority of the country's President is always a subject to government. For me, the country's Prime Minister is stronger than the President.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: diegz on March 13, 2017, 07:02:58 AM
Now i have to tell you the reality of the politics. Either president or government bodies may be much weaker than private groups. Your president might be a puppet nor your government

It depends, not all the time the president is greater than the government and vice versa.

Sometimes the governments power is divided into three, no one should be greater than each other.

There are type of government where the President is on power on the whole government and there are also type where the President is just a representative and not the sole ruler.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: adidas on March 13, 2017, 07:16:48 AM
The president for me is the strongest entity. It is because he is general commander of the army so he can order them anytime he see fits. Of course there is the senate which can try to obstacle the president but history has shown that the president once decides for a war he doesn't care much about the senate.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: AleSergio on March 13, 2017, 12:45:54 PM
Depends on a country, in some countries presidents are just some people, who do nothing and parlament does all the work. We cant say exactly if president is stronger or not, because we have different systems everywhere.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: The_prodigy on March 13, 2017, 01:36:38 PM
In my own understanding US has the most powerful president who has lots of co-countries but president will never be strong when don't have goverments supporting him presidents leads co-leader not to be selfish but to ask what is going to be better for his country men US has lots of investment and investors who invest on gold and other resources


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 13, 2017, 01:45:41 PM
The man man that holds the power of the executive is really a powerful one, well he is the President, highest rank in a Democratic country. But you can't say that the government is more powerful than the president, if you didn't know, the branches of government are , legislative, executive and the judiciary. The president is also known as the executive chief, the president is also in the government, so when you are asking whose more powerful, it is the government because the president is also included in the government officials.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: kodes88 on March 13, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
every country led by the president to mean the president is No. 1. Just like the royal, king / queen is definitely number 1. However govermen and the president must always unidirectional. Both should have the same thought. But I think the president has the greater right in every decision, even decisions must be based on the approval of the president, there should be a signature of the president.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: gracia0023 on March 14, 2017, 08:22:36 AM
President is the most powerful position in a government. He the chief executive. In some country there are president who are controlled by group of people trying to monopolize the country. Those people are the ones whose desire was to get the riches of the nation. Thus, making the president a puppet.

But, if only the president has his own power and decision over the country, he will be able to build a great nation together with the goverment. Because a president will never be a president without a goverment.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: evilgreed on March 15, 2017, 02:56:48 PM
In my opinion it depends upon the country where you were living may the Government or the President both of them are powerful enough to run a nation.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: TravelMug on March 15, 2017, 05:56:52 PM
Its all about the President, not the Congress or the Senate. The President is the Commander in Chief, the Leader of his nation. Although they are all co-equal with the Legislative or Judicial branch, for check and balance, but for me the President is the most powerful among the three. 


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: JavaLove on March 15, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
In the United States, the president acts as head of the executive branch, but not necessarily head of state. It's clear to almost anyone that the overall government is much more powerful than the president. This was done on purpose in order to prevent a tyrannical individual from completely obliterating the country.

The President really has no powers. All laws he introduces must be passed through both houses of congress and then he must sign it. Additionally he has a cabinet that he must listen to.

You might say he has the power of executive orders. While this is true as we have seen with the new administration along with the former administration, the senate and house of reps can vote to repeal an order while judges in the judicial branch can also determine whether a new law/order is illegal or should be repealed.

Therefore, the President should be defined as having the last say rather than having all the power. Yes, the only minuscule power the President has is by using executive order but in the whole of everything, there is not much power for him.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: jems on March 16, 2017, 01:39:37 AM
i choose government because government give power to President  even President lead the country and the government   has more power in President because they can control our country like tax


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: fuckitall on March 16, 2017, 07:53:44 AM
nO DOUGHT IT'S MR. PRESIDENT


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: WarThunder on March 16, 2017, 10:51:13 PM
i choose government because government give power to President  even President lead the country and the government   has more power in President because they can control our country like tax
I support the parliamentary presidential form of government. But all powers must be prescribed by laws. And the government is the president's choice and authorized by the parliament.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: jme621 on March 17, 2017, 12:19:22 AM
its depend

but its all about the president


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: NATHALIA on March 17, 2017, 12:27:44 AM
i would say the senator, cause the senator have power to destituate the president  :) :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: yellow1 on March 17, 2017, 02:04:55 PM
for me the stronger is a government because they could bind people, they can expelled a president to her position..


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: vivabux on March 17, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
supreme court the most powerful branch of federal

final point.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: ustradebitcoin on March 17, 2017, 05:23:54 PM
The Supreme Court has a special role to play in the United States system of government. The Constitution gives it the power to check, if necessary, the actions of the President and Congress.

It can tell a President that his actions are not allowed by the Constitution. It can tell Congress that a law it passed violated the U.S. Constitution and is, therefore, no longer a law. It can also tell the government of a state that one of its laws breaks a rule in the Constitution.

The Supreme Court is the final judge in all cases involving laws of Congress, and the highest law of all — the Constitution.

The Supreme Court, however, is far from all-powerful. Its power is limited by the other two branches of government. The President nominates justices to the court. The Senate must vote its approval of the nominations. The whole Congress also has great power over the lower courts in the federal system. District and appeals courts are created by acts of Congress. These courts may be abolished if Congress wishes it.



Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: bra4our on March 18, 2017, 09:30:52 AM
The President is head of Government, He is the most powerful individual in the whole government, Other branches are powerful but not individually but as a collective. Like the Legislative which comprises of the Senate and House of Representative, Together they can impeach the President. Which shows strength in numbers.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: wutard on March 18, 2017, 11:21:31 AM
The President is head of Government, He is the most powerful individual in the whole government, Other branches are powerful but not individually but as a collective. Like the Legislative which comprises of the Senate and House of Representative, Together they can impeach the President. Which shows strength in numbers.
If you take the American form of government, then the last word is still for the president, although the Senate also has levers of influence on the president's decision. In the right constitutional state, all branches of power must be balanced in order to avoid dictatorship.


Title: Re: Who is stronger the government or the president?
Post by: HatakeKakashi on March 18, 2017, 03:25:28 PM
I think the most stronger and powerful is president because this position is the highest.  Every position have different powers .
In my country Philippines our president is powerful and he decided what good in my country he works very hard and he takes action and command the police to kill the addict in drug but the senator have no powers to stop him because he is the president.