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Title: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 17, 2017, 11:50:21 PM
Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

God is both good and evil according to the bible. All evil and good comes from him


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Janation on March 18, 2017, 12:32:24 AM
So all our hardships that the evil cause us is also God's fault? And why did he create such creatures when it will be the reason of the destruction of his creations.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 18, 2017, 01:42:19 AM
When God created the universe, He gave mankind control. However, since everything operates by cause and effect, the things that man want are the things that come into being. Then man gave his control over to the devil. So God operates things according to the control of the devil, because God is over all. But...

All the evil of this universe will be destroyed right along with the universe. Afterward, it will never be remembered or brought to mind. So, evil will be destroyed. God will bring about this destruction.

Do you get it? No more evil. When you die, your evil is essentially gone from you, except if you are found to be against God at the time of the final judgment. If you are, you will be evil, and will be destroyed along with the universe.

When you consider all this with understanding, you will find that even the apparent evil of God is still goodness.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: fuckitall on March 18, 2017, 08:55:49 AM
So all our hardships that the evil cause us is also God's fault? And why did he create such creatures when it will be the reason of the destruction of his creations.

my friend god never created humans for destruction instead they were meant to live peacefully...but when god created humans he did created this world..to the living of ours.....trees...rivers...gold.....silver...evrything for our exsistence but instead of thanking god humans become addicted to these things...they started worshiping them....cause they were never aware of that why they are here.....so born jealousy...anger.....disbelief....terrorism.....god never wanted anyone to suffer.....he did created difficulties in some human paths but to demotivate them but to help them find their true potential


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Gens09 on March 18, 2017, 08:59:05 AM
U know that God is Good absence of good is evil :))

There are no Intervention of God so evil exist ..,


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: bitbunnni on March 18, 2017, 09:26:46 AM
God is the side of good, light and love. And the causes of all troubles are only in ourselves. Everything returns to us in threefold size. If we all envy and lead a sinful way of life, then only bad will be attracted to us. Do not blame God for everything. We create our own lives.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: wenjunnnnn on March 18, 2017, 09:53:40 AM
Ya, if we are bad he treat us bad, if we are good, god will treat us good also.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: barota on March 18, 2017, 11:06:00 AM
God is both good and evil??Yeah
Fire exist and fun exist

beware fire existe

It must have a good heart

I lived Wonders
Evil is the curse
There are realities that exist eternal fire
God has the qualities of strength (revenge
God is stronger than we imagine


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 18, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
Right, so I'm not sure if you'e all retarded or just haven't read the OP.

This post comes from THE BIBLE. Meaning if you are christian and believe in the bible, then you CANNOT doubt this. It says in the bible that god is BOTH good and evil. Meaning all good and evil things come from god. Satan never created evil, he just ran with it(god created evil according to the bible)

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 18, 2017, 09:00:06 PM
Right, so I'm not sure if you'e all retarded or just haven't read the OP.

This post comes from THE BIBLE. Meaning if you are christian and believe in the bible, then you CANNOT doubt this. It says in the bible that god is BOTH good and evil. Meaning all good and evil things come from god. Satan never created evil, he just ran with it(god created evil according to the bible)

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

That's a translation. NIV 1984 says:
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I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

The point is, there is a lot of understanding that a person needs to see, to understand what is really being said. This one passage doesn't explain it all.

The structure of the universe is such that God is almighty in it. He controls all. But how does He do it? He does it by giving various amounts freedom to His creatures - angels, devils, and man. Yet the freedom that God gives them induces God to move in the way that He does, because He controls all. Nothing can be done without Him doing it.

The result of the evil that man and the devil induced God to bring about through the nature of the way the universe is built, is the thing that caused Jesus, the Son of God to die the death for all people. Jesus essentially upheld a corrupt universe that would gone out of existence instantaneously when the devil and people did the first evil. The universe would have been destroyed because God doesn't have anything to do with evil. The promise of sacrifice of Jesus changed things so that in the eyes of God, evil is accepted as good temporarily.

In the coming resurrection, good people will be separated from evil people. The evil people will be destroyed along with this evil universe. See the lake of fire in the Revelation.

There won't be any evil following that. And, since evil will have been destroyed permanently, there won't ever be any remembrance of it. Isaiah 65:17:
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Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.

Evil, having to do with this universe, just like time has to do with this universe, will be gone along with time when the universe is destroyed. Since time will be gone, there will never have been any evil. There won't be such a thing as "have been."

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 19, 2017, 02:35:52 AM
Right, so I'm not sure if you'e all retarded or just haven't read the OP.

This post comes from THE BIBLE. Meaning if you are christian and believe in the bible, then you CANNOT doubt this. It says in the bible that god is BOTH good and evil. Meaning all good and evil things come from god. Satan never created evil, he just ran with it(god created evil according to the bible)

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

That's a translation. NIV 1984 says:
Quote
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

The point is, there is a lot of understanding that a person needs to see, to understand what is really being said. This one passage doesn't explain it all.

The structure of the universe is such that God is almighty in it. He controls all. But how does He do it? He does it by giving various amounts freedom to His creatures - angels, devils, and man. Yet the freedom that God gives them induces God to move in the way that He does, because He controls all. Nothing can be done without Him doing it.

The result of the evil that man and the devil induced God to bring about through the nature of the way the universe is built, is the thing that caused Jesus, the Son of God to die the death for all people. Jesus essentially upheld a corrupt universe that would gone out of existence instantaneously when the devil and people did the first evil. The universe would have been destroyed because God doesn't have anything to do with evil. The promise of sacrifice of Jesus changed things so that in the eyes of God, evil is accepted as good temporarily.

In the coming resurrection, good people will be separated from evil people. The evil people will be destroyed along with this evil universe. See the lake of fire in the Revelation.

There won't be any evil following that. And, since evil will have been destroyed permanently, there won't ever be any remembrance of it. Isaiah 65:17:
Quote
Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.

Evil, having to do with this universe, just like time has to do with this universe, will be gone along with time when the universe is destroyed. Since time will be gone, there will never have been any evil. There won't be such a thing as "have been."

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Stop trying to get away from what the quote is saying. God creates disasters and evil, therefore God is NOT ALL GOOD. He is evil, accept it.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 19, 2017, 02:51:17 AM
Right, so I'm not sure if you'e all retarded or just haven't read the OP.

This post comes from THE BIBLE. Meaning if you are christian and believe in the bible, then you CANNOT doubt this. It says in the bible that god is BOTH good and evil. Meaning all good and evil things come from god. Satan never created evil, he just ran with it(god created evil according to the bible)

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

That's a translation. NIV 1984 says:
Quote
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

The point is, there is a lot of understanding that a person needs to see, to understand what is really being said. This one passage doesn't explain it all.

The structure of the universe is such that God is almighty in it. He controls all. But how does He do it? He does it by giving various amounts freedom to His creatures - angels, devils, and man. Yet the freedom that God gives them induces God to move in the way that He does, because He controls all. Nothing can be done without Him doing it.

The result of the evil that man and the devil induced God to bring about through the nature of the way the universe is built, is the thing that caused Jesus, the Son of God to die the death for all people. Jesus essentially upheld a corrupt universe that would gone out of existence instantaneously when the devil and people did the first evil. The universe would have been destroyed because God doesn't have anything to do with evil. The promise of sacrifice of Jesus changed things so that in the eyes of God, evil is accepted as good temporarily.

In the coming resurrection, good people will be separated from evil people. The evil people will be destroyed along with this evil universe. See the lake of fire in the Revelation.

There won't be any evil following that. And, since evil will have been destroyed permanently, there won't ever be any remembrance of it. Isaiah 65:17:
Quote
Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.

Evil, having to do with this universe, just like time has to do with this universe, will be gone along with time when the universe is destroyed. Since time will be gone, there will never have been any evil. There won't be such a thing as "have been."

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Stop trying to get away from what the quote is saying. God creates disasters and evil, therefore God is NOT ALL GOOD. He is evil, accept it.

However, when God reveals us to Himself in the judgment, be sure to be found on His side, so that you can be saved with the righteous rather than destroyed with the unrighteous.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Jelly0621 on March 19, 2017, 05:14:52 AM
God is good all the time. You just need to obey Him and follow all  the Godly words. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. And God brings disaster to those who continue to rebel against Him.

We, human gives definition the word "disaster" as evil. Because the evil is bad and does disaster.
God does not create evil but human being does.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: rezoan71 on March 20, 2017, 03:15:55 PM
No it is not. Because God delivered a right run way for everyone. He can not want it we run on the path of evil. He want it we come after the right path which delivered by Him for the whole mankind. Man can follow one from the both way which his freedom. When he decline the right path he go way on the evil it is responsibility for him. So The God Is not both good and evil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Jumanji7 on March 20, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
Does god even exist?


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Vod on March 20, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
Keep in mind, 100% (ALL) of Christianity is derived from one book written by stoners.

Everything that has come since is based on that.

It's a tower built on a shoddy foundation.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 20, 2017, 03:55:21 PM
Does god even exist?

Yes. Science proves that God exists and created all things...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: ApplePanPine on March 20, 2017, 04:41:43 PM
God is an infinite love for everything on earth. Kindness is one of the manifestations of love. And what people perceive as evil is a manifestation of justice.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 20, 2017, 08:10:51 PM
I give up. This quote from THE BIBLE, Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." clearly says that God creates evil, yet these trolls are still saying "god is all good", when the very object you consider sacred(Your holy book) says hes evil!

Makes no sense, honestly this is why I consider most religious folk to be uneducated and averse to critical reasoning, or simple logic. Somethings very off with you folks


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Vod on March 20, 2017, 09:14:14 PM
What do you expect from people that believe in fairy tales?  Intelligence? 


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 20, 2017, 11:48:27 PM
I give up. This quote from THE BIBLE, Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." clearly says that God creates evil, yet these trolls are still saying "god is all good", when the very object you consider sacred(Your holy book) says hes evil!

Makes no sense, honestly this is why I consider most religious folk to be uneducated and averse to critical reasoning, or simple logic. Somethings very off with you folks

The thing that does make sense is, Adam and Eve sinned by believing and obeying the serpent rather than God, in the Garden. Did they understand what they were in essence doing? Of course not. Otherwise they would have never listened to the serpent.

We are a lot further from perfection. We don't understand what we are doing if we obey God or not. We don't understand how God can remain good even if he brings forth evil... even though I have explained it right in this thread.

The point is, believe God even if you don't understand Him. Then obey Him. Believe in Jesus salvation, and live forever in glory and joy. Or don't believe or obey, and die.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 21, 2017, 12:17:11 AM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 23, 2017, 02:13:47 AM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

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To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".

Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 23, 2017, 02:47:22 AM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

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To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: JengoFF_n0 on March 23, 2017, 09:19:12 AM
God is good, but he is sending people tests so that they become stronger and develop. Whoever goes in the wrong way can also punish.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 24, 2017, 02:47:08 PM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

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To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

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So, now you're comparing scientists to god(So according to that logic, scientists are gods...hm). You can't use such analogies therefore your point is mute, scientists do not create concepts, they simply work on them. It doesn't matter what you personally believe, because what you personally believe about god being all good, goes against what the bible says, aka you're going against god.

You cannot have evil without the concept of evil being created, therefore God has created the very concept of evil itself, so God knows evil. God is evil, and it says so in the bible regardlfess of whatever nonsense you try and make yourself believe otherwise. Christ and god the father are the same being according to the bible, so stop making up lies concerning "worked his way out of that position by being a God of 3 persons", No, theres only 1 god with three different facets that humans can look at(The father, christ, and the spirit), but they are ultimately sides of one being.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Villy_wongaa on March 24, 2017, 04:25:00 PM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

God is not evil. He is just and gives the person what he deserves. If a person lives sinfully, does not care about anyone and destroys nature, he will be punished according to God's law.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 24, 2017, 04:41:37 PM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

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To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

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So, now you're comparing scientists to god(So according to that logic, scientists are gods...hm). You can't use such analogies therefore your point is mute, scientists do not create concepts, they simply work on them.
So, now you are suggesting something about me by claiming that I compared scientists to God. Then you are trying to refute a claim that you made about me, with the idea of refuting me.


It doesn't matter what you personally believe, because what you personally believe about god being all good, goes against what the bible says, aka you're going against god.
It matters what I personally believe when I am right. The Bible never says that God is anything other than good.



You cannot have evil without the concept of evil being created, therefore God has created the very concept of evil itself, so God knows evil.
God never created the concept of evil. In fact, evil is a subset of the only thing that God didn't create. This doesn't mean that He understands it less than its creator, the devil. God understanding evil is what the death of Jesus-God on the cross was all about.


God is evil, and it says so in the bible regardlfess of whatever nonsense you try and make yourself believe otherwise. Christ and god the father are the same being according to the bible, so stop making up lies concerning "worked his way out of that position by being a God of 3 persons", No, theres only 1 god with three different facets that humans can look at(The father, christ, and the spirit), but they are ultimately sides of one being.
Simply because people don't understand things about God, is no reason to not accept and believe them. God is One. At the same time He is three distinct Persons in God. At the same time each of those distinct Persons is entirely God. This is Biblical.

The Bible says that God is good. It never says that God is evil. Because God creates evil doesn't ever mean He is evil or that evil can be found in Him. It can be this way because He is God. You speak from the stanpoint of man, and try to use man's logic on God. Such can't be done accurately.




Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



God does the things He says in Isaiah 45:7. He never says that He is evil or even does evil. You barely know about God at all, it seems.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 25, 2017, 02:39:44 AM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

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To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

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So, now you're comparing scientists to god(So according to that logic, scientists are gods...hm). You can't use such analogies therefore your point is mute, scientists do not create concepts, they simply work on them.
So, now you are suggesting something about me by claiming that I compared scientists to God. Then you are trying to refute a claim that you made about me, with the idea of refuting me.


It doesn't matter what you personally believe, because what you personally believe about god being all good, goes against what the bible says, aka you're going against god.
It matters what I personally believe when I am right. The Bible never says that God is anything other than good.



You cannot have evil without the concept of evil being created, therefore God has created the very concept of evil itself, so God knows evil.
God never created the concept of evil. In fact, evil is a subset of the only thing that God didn't create. This doesn't mean that He understands it less than its creator, the devil. God understanding evil is what the death of Jesus-God on the cross was all about.


God is evil, and it says so in the bible regardlfess of whatever nonsense you try and make yourself believe otherwise. Christ and god the father are the same being according to the bible, so stop making up lies concerning "worked his way out of that position by being a God of 3 persons", No, theres only 1 god with three different facets that humans can look at(The father, christ, and the spirit), but they are ultimately sides of one being.
Simply because people don't understand things about God, is no reason to not accept and believe them. God is One. At the same time He is three distinct Persons in God. At the same time each of those distinct Persons is entirely God. This is Biblical.

The Bible says that God is good. It never says that God is evil. Because God creates evil doesn't ever mean He is evil or that evil can be found in Him. It can be this way because He is God. You speak from the stanpoint of man, and try to use man's logic on God. Such can't be done accurately.




Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



God does the things He says in Isaiah 45:7. He never says that He is evil or even does evil. You barely know about God at all, it seems.

8)

Evidently you are against the bible, since you are not listening to what it says. God created evil. If God hadn't created evil as said in the bible, there would be no misery in this world.

Even if we were to believe god isn't evil(Which he is according to the bible), he CREATED evil, so either way you look at it, God is the reason behind all suffering and evil in this world. He is the reason people are killed, raped, tortured, ridden with disease, etc, because he created/creates evil. God is Evil, and the Bible says it.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: maister77777 on March 25, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
Every person in life encounters good and evil, and always in this, either thanks or accuses God. It could be answered that God is both evil and good at the same time, but in my opinion this is not so.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 25, 2017, 03:20:31 PM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

8)

To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

8)

So, now you're comparing scientists to god(So according to that logic, scientists are gods...hm). You can't use such analogies therefore your point is mute, scientists do not create concepts, they simply work on them.
So, now you are suggesting something about me by claiming that I compared scientists to God. Then you are trying to refute a claim that you made about me, with the idea of refuting me.


It doesn't matter what you personally believe, because what you personally believe about god being all good, goes against what the bible says, aka you're going against god.
It matters what I personally believe when I am right. The Bible never says that God is anything other than good.



You cannot have evil without the concept of evil being created, therefore God has created the very concept of evil itself, so God knows evil.
God never created the concept of evil. In fact, evil is a subset of the only thing that God didn't create. This doesn't mean that He understands it less than its creator, the devil. God understanding evil is what the death of Jesus-God on the cross was all about.


God is evil, and it says so in the bible regardlfess of whatever nonsense you try and make yourself believe otherwise. Christ and god the father are the same being according to the bible, so stop making up lies concerning "worked his way out of that position by being a God of 3 persons", No, theres only 1 god with three different facets that humans can look at(The father, christ, and the spirit), but they are ultimately sides of one being.
Simply because people don't understand things about God, is no reason to not accept and believe them. God is One. At the same time He is three distinct Persons in God. At the same time each of those distinct Persons is entirely God. This is Biblical.

The Bible says that God is good. It never says that God is evil. Because God creates evil doesn't ever mean He is evil or that evil can be found in Him. It can be this way because He is God. You speak from the stanpoint of man, and try to use man's logic on God. Such can't be done accurately.




Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



God does the things He says in Isaiah 45:7. He never says that He is evil or even does evil. You barely know about God at all, it seems.

8)

Evidently you are against the bible, since you are not listening to what it says. God created evil. If God hadn't created evil as said in the bible, there would be no misery in this world.
God is love. His love causes Him to be a great Giver. People and the devil asked for evil. What could God do but give them what they asked for?

In their request for evil, man and the devil essentially asked for God to kill Himself. In what way did they ask for this? God can't stand even a hint of evil. So, the only way for there to be evil is by God creating it, and by Him dying in the creating of it.

God did even the death thing for mankind and the devil. He did it through Jesus dying on the cross. But, since God can't die, He died through His Person of Jesus, Who then arose on the third day after death.

So, even the evil that God had to create to remain in character, has turned into good.



Even if we were to believe god isn't evil(Which he is according to the bible), he CREATED evil, so either way you look at it, God is the reason behind all suffering and evil in this world. He is the reason people are killed, raped, tortured, ridden with disease, etc, because he created/creates evil. God is Evil, and the Bible says it.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


You haven't shown the evidence that proves that God is evil. God is good by giving to mankind and the devil the thing that they asked for.

Further. God knows that man, at least, didn't understand what he was asking for when he inadvertently asked for evil. In the new universe that God is creating for us, there will be no evil. Not only that, since this universe will be destroyed completely in the lake of fire (see Revelations), none of this will ever be remembered or brought to mind ever again (see Isaiah).

Now, you and those like you. Take your pick. Accept the salvation that Jesus God provides, or remain evil, and be destroyed with the evil, in the way - lake of fire - that will make it so that there will never have been any evil.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 27, 2017, 08:33:04 PM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

8)

To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

8)

So, now you're comparing scientists to god(So according to that logic, scientists are gods...hm). You can't use such analogies therefore your point is mute, scientists do not create concepts, they simply work on them.
So, now you are suggesting something about me by claiming that I compared scientists to God. Then you are trying to refute a claim that you made about me, with the idea of refuting me.


It doesn't matter what you personally believe, because what you personally believe about god being all good, goes against what the bible says, aka you're going against god.
It matters what I personally believe when I am right. The Bible never says that God is anything other than good.



You cannot have evil without the concept of evil being created, therefore God has created the very concept of evil itself, so God knows evil.
God never created the concept of evil. In fact, evil is a subset of the only thing that God didn't create. This doesn't mean that He understands it less than its creator, the devil. God understanding evil is what the death of Jesus-God on the cross was all about.


God is evil, and it says so in the bible regardlfess of whatever nonsense you try and make yourself believe otherwise. Christ and god the father are the same being according to the bible, so stop making up lies concerning "worked his way out of that position by being a God of 3 persons", No, theres only 1 god with three different facets that humans can look at(The father, christ, and the spirit), but they are ultimately sides of one being.
Simply because people don't understand things about God, is no reason to not accept and believe them. God is One. At the same time He is three distinct Persons in God. At the same time each of those distinct Persons is entirely God. This is Biblical.

The Bible says that God is good. It never says that God is evil. Because God creates evil doesn't ever mean He is evil or that evil can be found in Him. It can be this way because He is God. You speak from the stanpoint of man, and try to use man's logic on God. Such can't be done accurately.




Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



God does the things He says in Isaiah 45:7. He never says that He is evil or even does evil. You barely know about God at all, it seems.

8)

Evidently you are against the bible, since you are not listening to what it says. God created evil. If God hadn't created evil as said in the bible, there would be no misery in this world.
God is love. His love causes Him to be a great Giver. People and the devil asked for evil. What could God do but give them what they asked for?

In their request for evil, man and the devil essentially asked for God to kill Himself. In what way did they ask for this? God can't stand even a hint of evil. So, the only way for there to be evil is by God creating it, and by Him dying in the creating of it.

God did even the death thing for mankind and the devil. He did it through Jesus dying on the cross. But, since God can't die, He died through His Person of Jesus, Who then arose on the third day after death.

So, even the evil that God had to create to remain in character, has turned into good.



Even if we were to believe god isn't evil(Which he is according to the bible), he CREATED evil, so either way you look at it, God is the reason behind all suffering and evil in this world. He is the reason people are killed, raped, tortured, ridden with disease, etc, because he created/creates evil. God is Evil, and the Bible says it.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


You haven't shown the evidence that proves that God is evil. God is good by giving to mankind and the devil the thing that they asked for.

Further. God knows that man, at least, didn't understand what he was asking for when he inadvertently asked for evil. In the new universe that God is creating for us, there will be no evil. Not only that, since this universe will be destroyed completely in the lake of fire (see Revelations), none of this will ever be remembered or brought to mind ever again (see Isaiah).

Now, you and those like you. Take your pick. Accept the salvation that Jesus God provides, or remain evil, and be destroyed with the evil, in the way - lake of fire - that will make it so that there will never have been any evil.

8)

Stop saying false things. Mankind never asked for evil. Evil already existed from the beginning of time as god created evil.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 27, 2017, 09:21:12 PM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

8)

To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

8)

So, now you're comparing scientists to god(So according to that logic, scientists are gods...hm). You can't use such analogies therefore your point is mute, scientists do not create concepts, they simply work on them.
So, now you are suggesting something about me by claiming that I compared scientists to God. Then you are trying to refute a claim that you made about me, with the idea of refuting me.


It doesn't matter what you personally believe, because what you personally believe about god being all good, goes against what the bible says, aka you're going against god.
It matters what I personally believe when I am right. The Bible never says that God is anything other than good.



You cannot have evil without the concept of evil being created, therefore God has created the very concept of evil itself, so God knows evil.
God never created the concept of evil. In fact, evil is a subset of the only thing that God didn't create. This doesn't mean that He understands it less than its creator, the devil. God understanding evil is what the death of Jesus-God on the cross was all about.


God is evil, and it says so in the bible regardlfess of whatever nonsense you try and make yourself believe otherwise. Christ and god the father are the same being according to the bible, so stop making up lies concerning "worked his way out of that position by being a God of 3 persons", No, theres only 1 god with three different facets that humans can look at(The father, christ, and the spirit), but they are ultimately sides of one being.
Simply because people don't understand things about God, is no reason to not accept and believe them. God is One. At the same time He is three distinct Persons in God. At the same time each of those distinct Persons is entirely God. This is Biblical.

The Bible says that God is good. It never says that God is evil. Because God creates evil doesn't ever mean He is evil or that evil can be found in Him. It can be this way because He is God. You speak from the stanpoint of man, and try to use man's logic on God. Such can't be done accurately.




Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



God does the things He says in Isaiah 45:7. He never says that He is evil or even does evil. You barely know about God at all, it seems.

8)

Evidently you are against the bible, since you are not listening to what it says. God created evil. If God hadn't created evil as said in the bible, there would be no misery in this world.
God is love. His love causes Him to be a great Giver. People and the devil asked for evil. What could God do but give them what they asked for?

In their request for evil, man and the devil essentially asked for God to kill Himself. In what way did they ask for this? God can't stand even a hint of evil. So, the only way for there to be evil is by God creating it, and by Him dying in the creating of it.

God did even the death thing for mankind and the devil. He did it through Jesus dying on the cross. But, since God can't die, He died through His Person of Jesus, Who then arose on the third day after death.

So, even the evil that God had to create to remain in character, has turned into good.



Even if we were to believe god isn't evil(Which he is according to the bible), he CREATED evil, so either way you look at it, God is the reason behind all suffering and evil in this world. He is the reason people are killed, raped, tortured, ridden with disease, etc, because he created/creates evil. God is Evil, and the Bible says it.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


You haven't shown the evidence that proves that God is evil. God is good by giving to mankind and the devil the thing that they asked for.

Further. God knows that man, at least, didn't understand what he was asking for when he inadvertently asked for evil. In the new universe that God is creating for us, there will be no evil. Not only that, since this universe will be destroyed completely in the lake of fire (see Revelations), none of this will ever be remembered or brought to mind ever again (see Isaiah).

Now, you and those like you. Take your pick. Accept the salvation that Jesus God provides, or remain evil, and be destroyed with the evil, in the way - lake of fire - that will make it so that there will never have been any evil.

8)

Stop saying false things. Mankind never asked for evil. Evil already existed from the beginning of time as god created evil.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



I really am not trying to keep you from believing the things you want to believe. But you are believing something that is false according to your statements. God created evil without being evil, and I explained how He could, and why He would, do such a thing, in previous posts in this thread.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on March 28, 2017, 12:46:12 AM
God cannot be evil, cause he is 100% good.

Joshuar is just playing with us in this thread. Did you look at the Bible passage he quoted in the OP? It doesn't say anything about whether or not God is evil or good. All it says about evil is that God creates evil. Joshuar is simply playing with people's minds.

8)

To create evil you must know evil. I'm not sure if you're mentally handicapped, but an entirely good god cannot create evil. A good god would be entirely free from the very concept of evil. Therefore, to create evil one must also know evil and all it entails, therefore god is partly evil as he created the very concept of "evil".
Knowing something is not being it. Scientists know many things. Yet, they are not necessarily any of them.

So, you who can barely track your way to the store, suddenly understands a God Who can track all the molecules, atoms, electrons, protons, etc.



Use your brain

Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


All things come from God, the good, the evil, the pretty, the ugly. God is the progenitor of everything, therefore it is impossible for god to be entirely good. If you believe "satan" created evil, then that puts Satan on equal footing with God in terms of power because that would mean he has the ability to create concepts themselves(such as evilness).... Point is, the god we worship is just like us, both Good and Evil.

As I said. The giving God produced everything good. He also allowed us the freedom of requesting anything from Him. When we requested evil, he was stuck into a position that was going to make Him do evil. But He worked His way out of that position by being a God of 3 Persons. One of those Persons died on the cross, and arose on the third day after, so that God wouldn't have to do evil. Because of this, evil is not evil in God's sight... but only temporarily in ours. God is going to righteously destroy the things that are considered evil here, so that even WE PEOPLE don't have to spend time in our evil any longer.

Get into God's salvation and lose all your evil, or be destroyed with the rest of the evil.

8)

So, now you're comparing scientists to god(So according to that logic, scientists are gods...hm). You can't use such analogies therefore your point is mute, scientists do not create concepts, they simply work on them.
So, now you are suggesting something about me by claiming that I compared scientists to God. Then you are trying to refute a claim that you made about me, with the idea of refuting me.


It doesn't matter what you personally believe, because what you personally believe about god being all good, goes against what the bible says, aka you're going against god.
It matters what I personally believe when I am right. The Bible never says that God is anything other than good.



You cannot have evil without the concept of evil being created, therefore God has created the very concept of evil itself, so God knows evil.
God never created the concept of evil. In fact, evil is a subset of the only thing that God didn't create. This doesn't mean that He understands it less than its creator, the devil. God understanding evil is what the death of Jesus-God on the cross was all about.


God is evil, and it says so in the bible regardlfess of whatever nonsense you try and make yourself believe otherwise. Christ and god the father are the same being according to the bible, so stop making up lies concerning "worked his way out of that position by being a God of 3 persons", No, theres only 1 god with three different facets that humans can look at(The father, christ, and the spirit), but they are ultimately sides of one being.
Simply because people don't understand things about God, is no reason to not accept and believe them. God is One. At the same time He is three distinct Persons in God. At the same time each of those distinct Persons is entirely God. This is Biblical.

The Bible says that God is good. It never says that God is evil. Because God creates evil doesn't ever mean He is evil or that evil can be found in Him. It can be this way because He is God. You speak from the stanpoint of man, and try to use man's logic on God. Such can't be done accurately.




Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



God does the things He says in Isaiah 45:7. He never says that He is evil or even does evil. You barely know about God at all, it seems.

8)

Evidently you are against the bible, since you are not listening to what it says. God created evil. If God hadn't created evil as said in the bible, there would be no misery in this world.
God is love. His love causes Him to be a great Giver. People and the devil asked for evil. What could God do but give them what they asked for?

In their request for evil, man and the devil essentially asked for God to kill Himself. In what way did they ask for this? God can't stand even a hint of evil. So, the only way for there to be evil is by God creating it, and by Him dying in the creating of it.

God did even the death thing for mankind and the devil. He did it through Jesus dying on the cross. But, since God can't die, He died through His Person of Jesus, Who then arose on the third day after death.

So, even the evil that God had to create to remain in character, has turned into good.



Even if we were to believe god isn't evil(Which he is according to the bible), he CREATED evil, so either way you look at it, God is the reason behind all suffering and evil in this world. He is the reason people are killed, raped, tortured, ridden with disease, etc, because he created/creates evil. God is Evil, and the Bible says it.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


You haven't shown the evidence that proves that God is evil. God is good by giving to mankind and the devil the thing that they asked for.

Further. God knows that man, at least, didn't understand what he was asking for when he inadvertently asked for evil. In the new universe that God is creating for us, there will be no evil. Not only that, since this universe will be destroyed completely in the lake of fire (see Revelations), none of this will ever be remembered or brought to mind ever again (see Isaiah).

Now, you and those like you. Take your pick. Accept the salvation that Jesus God provides, or remain evil, and be destroyed with the evil, in the way - lake of fire - that will make it so that there will never have been any evil.

8)

Stop saying false things. Mankind never asked for evil. Evil already existed from the beginning of time as god created evil.


Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."



I really am not trying to keep you from believing the things you want to believe. But you are believing something that is false according to your statements. God created evil without being evil, and I explained how He could, and why He would, do such a thing, in previous posts in this thread.

8)

It is impossible to create a concept without knowing what the concept entails. God created evil knowing exactly what evil was and all it would do. God is evil, use logic sir.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: GooCust04 on March 31, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Every person in life encounters good and evil, and always in this, either thanks or accuses God. It could be answered that God is both evil and good at the same time, but in my opinion this is not so.

God is a bright side and he wants people only good. Everything depends on the person what more he will meet in his life and on which side he will go. If a person does good deeds and helps others, then God will help him and protect him from evil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on March 31, 2017, 09:24:27 PM

I really am not trying to keep you from believing the things you want to believe. But you are believing something that is false according to your statements. God created evil without being evil, and I explained how He could, and why He would, do such a thing, in previous posts in this thread.

8)

It is impossible to create a concept without knowing what the concept entails. God created evil knowing exactly what evil was and all it would do. God is evil, use logic sir.

Spoken like a true human weakling who thinks he knows what the Great God is like.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: one-day0 on March 31, 2017, 09:37:55 PM

I really am not trying to keep you from believing the things you want to believe. But you are believing something that is false according to your statements. God created evil without being evil, and I explained how He could, and why He would, do such a thing, in previous posts in this thread.

8)

It is impossible to create a concept without knowing what the concept entails. God created evil knowing exactly what evil was and all it would do. God is evil, use logic sir.

Spoken like a true human weakling who thinks he knows what the Great God is like.

8)
Only madmen are sure of their knowledge. Probably I should agree with your words, but I am confused by so many opinions and arguments that have almost no confirmation of their thoughts.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: daiyuba1971 on April 02, 2017, 09:53:23 PM
In many religions of the world, God represents both good and evil. One and the same god gives life, and then takes it. People are accustomed to divide everything into black and white. And God has many faces


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 02, 2017, 10:05:10 PM

I really am not trying to keep you from believing the things you want to believe. But you are believing something that is false according to your statements. God created evil without being evil, and I explained how He could, and why He would, do such a thing, in previous posts in this thread.

8)

It is impossible to create a concept without knowing what the concept entails. God created evil knowing exactly what evil was and all it would do. God is evil, use logic sir.

Spoken like a true human weakling who thinks he knows what the Great God is like.

8)
Only madmen are sure of their knowledge. Probably I should agree with your words, but I am confused by so many opinions and arguments that have almost no confirmation of their thoughts.

If you are confused, simply ask into the air. Ask God to show you the way. Then be patient until He does so.

Read the Bible. Don't attempt to believe it or disbelieve it. Just read it. God will show Himself to your inner mind if you are patient.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: ekaterina77 on April 03, 2017, 06:51:34 AM
There are people who believe in God, but there are those who worship the devil. But even if they worship the devil, it means that they believe that God still exists. This is a confrontation between two worlds, good and evil. Looks like we'll see who wins soon.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: cigaLeider on April 03, 2017, 07:49:11 AM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: vantyzz on April 03, 2017, 08:22:02 AM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

I agree with you. God can not be evil. And people can. Just people give an assessment of everything that surrounds them. And God is simply an energy that can be killed, and can give life


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: jonnybravo0411 on April 03, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: praboso96 on April 03, 2017, 06:16:24 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.

And I always thought that God created only good things on this planet. How can he create evil? What for? I think that all evil on the planet was created not by God.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Ronxawala on April 03, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.

And I always thought that God created only good things on this planet. How can he create evil? What for? I think that all evil on the planet was created not by God.

Well, to create evil is the Devil. He provokes people to commit bad deeds and wants them to go over to the side of evil, and he tries as hard as possible to do bad.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: StarCitizen999 on April 03, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.

And I always thought that God created only good things on this planet. How can he create evil? What for? I think that all evil on the planet was created not by God.

Well, to create evil is the Devil. He provokes people to commit bad deeds and wants them to go over to the side of evil, and he tries as hard as possible to do bad.
Do you think that all the evil that is committed on earth is the machinations of the devil? If all this is the case, then every person committing evil deeds, can be sent to hell when doing something bad.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Wa(t)ch_night() on April 03, 2017, 07:39:43 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: SkyNVS on April 03, 2017, 07:40:20 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.

And I always thought that God created only good things on this planet. How can he create evil? What for? I think that all evil on the planet was created not by God.


To keep the world in balance. Can't only have good things without the bad.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 03, 2017, 09:42:58 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.

And I always thought that God created only good things on this planet. How can he create evil? What for? I think that all evil on the planet was created not by God.


To keep the world in balance. Can't only have good things without the bad.

Evil doesn't cause imbalance. It causes destruction.    8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 03, 2017, 09:45:12 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

God created the devil as a good angel. The devil turned against God and created evil. If evil was stronger than good, the world would have been destroyed with the first sin. The devil is way weaker than God. The fact that people are still here is the proof.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 03, 2017, 09:47:21 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.

And I always thought that God created only good things on this planet. How can he create evil? What for? I think that all evil on the planet was created not by God.

Well, to create evil is the Devil. He provokes people to commit bad deeds and wants them to go over to the side of evil, and he tries as hard as possible to do bad.
Do you think that all the evil that is committed on earth is the machinations of the devil? If all this is the case, then every person committing evil deeds, can be sent to hell when doing something bad.

Everybody lives in an imperfect body that was genetically handed down from his parents. Anything less than perfection is evil in God's sight. This means that everybody is evil and should go to Hell. Thanks be to god that He loved the good that we could be, and sent His Son, Jesus, to save us from the evil.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 03, 2017, 09:51:45 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.

And I always thought that God created only good things on this planet. How can he create evil? What for? I think that all evil on the planet was created not by God.

God is a loving, giving God. He handles all creating and control except for the little free will that we have. When we ask Him for something by formal asking, or by attempting to get it, we are asking God for it. It is God that grants all things. When we ask for evil, since God is loving and giving, how can He change His nature and NOT give us what we ask for.

This is why Jesus God had to die a terrible death on the cross. It was the way to give man the thing that he asked for, while letting God die to maintain His holy, perfect nature.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: v1ryspro on April 04, 2017, 10:31:55 AM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

Evil must be for balance, but God can not create evil. Evil is creating evil. Then the question arises who created God and the devil?


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on April 04, 2017, 05:32:34 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

Evil must be for balance, but God can not create evil. Evil is creating evil. Then the question arises who created God and the devil?

As said in the bible, God created evil. Please go read your bible. God created evil, as for who created God? His God, we don't know.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 04, 2017, 05:44:18 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

Evil must be for balance, but God can not create evil. Evil is creating evil. Then the question arises who created God and the devil?

As said in the bible, God created evil. Please go read your bible. God created evil, as for who created God? His God, we don't know.

The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil.

Then God did what the evil would do to Him and to mankind. He died in the form of God and man... Jesus dying on the cross. When Jesus arose on the third day, God showed that evil had been conquered.

We all die as did God in the form of Jesus. We all will rise as did Jesus in the form of man. Evil is gone since Jesus did His work of dying and rising. Even the semblance of evil that we see in this life will be entirely gone when we rise from the dead.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on April 04, 2017, 05:50:35 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

Evil must be for balance, but God can not create evil. Evil is creating evil. Then the question arises who created God and the devil?

As said in the bible, God created evil. Please go read your bible. God created evil, as for who created God? His God, we don't know.

The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil.

Then God did what the evil would do to Him and to mankind. He died in the form of God and man... Jesus dying on the cross. When Jesus arose on the third day, God showed that evil had been conquered.

We all die as did God in the form of Jesus. We all will rise as did Jesus in the form of man. Evil is gone since Jesus did His work of dying and rising. Even the semblance of evil that we see in this life will be entirely gone when we rise from the dead.

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Then based on your comment,"The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil", you're saying mankind is greater than God. For us to have an ability to create a concept such as evil which "God" was unaware of proves that he is not omnipotent, or at the very least, omniscience(all knowing) and that we can create things even he had no concept of prior...

Your words are contradicting and hurting your argument, BADECKER.

God created evil, all things comes from God. Every hurtful, sinful thing, murder, rape, etc etc, all comes from God...and that's according to the bible.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 04, 2017, 06:04:58 PM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

Evil must be for balance, but God can not create evil. Evil is creating evil. Then the question arises who created God and the devil?

As said in the bible, God created evil. Please go read your bible. God created evil, as for who created God? His God, we don't know.

The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil.

Then God did what the evil would do to Him and to mankind. He died in the form of God and man... Jesus dying on the cross. When Jesus arose on the third day, God showed that evil had been conquered.

We all die as did God in the form of Jesus. We all will rise as did Jesus in the form of man. Evil is gone since Jesus did His work of dying and rising. Even the semblance of evil that we see in this life will be entirely gone when we rise from the dead.

8)

Then based on your comment,"The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil", you're saying mankind is greater than God. For us to have an ability to create a concept such as evil which "God" was unaware of proves that he is not omnipotent, or at the very least, omniscience(all knowing) and that we can create things even he had no concept of prior...

Your words are contradicting and hurting your argument, BADECKER.

God created evil, all things comes from God. Every hurtful, sinful thing, murder, rape, etc etc, all comes from God...and that's according to the bible.

God, in His love and kindness, is trying to give mankind the best. Freedom to create and do evil is freedom. If we didn't have freedom, we would be like the animals, definitely not the best.

God was aware of the concept of evil right when the devil created it. There is no way to be aware of a concept that doesn't exist.

Your agenda keeps your mind from thinking clearly enough to understand what is going on. So, your words are faulty as is your thinking.

God didn't create evil. He is even destroying the evil that was created. In the new heaven and earth there will be no evil. Even those who are against God (this is evil) will be destroyed in the lake of fire, where they will be smelted down over eternity so that God can get His energy back from them... in its basic form, of course. God is greater than and beyond eternity.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Lieldoryn on April 04, 2017, 06:37:21 PM
There is no love of God. We can't see her. Moreover the world is so not fair that only greedy people can build such a world as ours. If God was he would not be allowed. It's people talking about what God brings love, and themselves at this time frightening. Religion is evil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Vw_polo_11 on April 04, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
There is no love of God. We can't see her. Moreover the world is so not fair that only greedy people can build such a world as ours. If God was he would not be allowed. It's people talking about what God brings love, and themselves at this time frightening. Religion is evil.
Probably you have been greatly offended in life if you are so angry at the world and God. Many people are those who believe in God helps to live and they are doing well with life and faith at the same time.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Barmen on April 04, 2017, 07:15:48 PM
There is no love of God. We can't see her. Moreover the world is so not fair that only greedy people can build such a world as ours. If God was he would not be allowed. It's people talking about what God brings love, and themselves at this time frightening. Religion is evil.
Probably you have been greatly offended in life if you are so angry at the world and God. Many people are those who believe in God helps to live and they are doing well with life and faith at the same time.
Who all is well with life, they do not believe in God. Look at the majority of billionaires. They all have earned by deception and cunning. I doubt that they believe in God.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on April 05, 2017, 01:10:27 AM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

Evil must be for balance, but God can not create evil. Evil is creating evil. Then the question arises who created God and the devil?

As said in the bible, God created evil. Please go read your bible. God created evil, as for who created God? His God, we don't know.

The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil.

Then God did what the evil would do to Him and to mankind. He died in the form of God and man... Jesus dying on the cross. When Jesus arose on the third day, God showed that evil had been conquered.

We all die as did God in the form of Jesus. We all will rise as did Jesus in the form of man. Evil is gone since Jesus did His work of dying and rising. Even the semblance of evil that we see in this life will be entirely gone when we rise from the dead.

8)

Then based on your comment,"The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil", you're saying mankind is greater than God. For us to have an ability to create a concept such as evil which "God" was unaware of proves that he is not omnipotent, or at the very least, omniscience(all knowing) and that we can create things even he had no concept of prior...

Your words are contradicting and hurting your argument, BADECKER.

God created evil, all things comes from God. Every hurtful, sinful thing, murder, rape, etc etc, all comes from God...and that's according to the bible.

God, in His love and kindness, is trying to give mankind the best. Freedom to create and do evil is freedom. If we didn't have freedom, we would be like the animals, definitely not the best.

God was aware of the concept of evil right when the devil created it. There is no way to be aware of a concept that doesn't exist.

Your agenda keeps your mind from thinking clearly enough to understand what is going on. So, your words are faulty as is your thinking.

God didn't create evil. He is even destroying the evil that was created. In the new heaven and earth there will be no evil. Even those who are against God (this is evil) will be destroyed in the lake of fire, where they will be smelted down over eternity so that God can get His energy back from them... in its basic form, of course. God is greater than and beyond eternity.

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Again, you're making no sense. You haven't even attempted to rebuff my claim.

If I go by your viewpoint that humans created the concept of evil, then that means humans have power over god, since humans can create a concept that even god in unaware of. And here's where everyone can see you have No Idea what you're talking about. You previously said this, " The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil". Now, you're saying this, "God didn't create evil", and this, "God was aware of the concept of evil right when the devil created it.". So you yourself have no idea what you're saying, Lmao. You're contradicting what you're saying entirely...

So...it's either you believe humans are powerful enough to outsmart god itself, or that god created evil. One or the other.

Since the bible clearly says god created/creates evil as shown here(Please go open your nearest bible and take a look): Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 05, 2017, 01:52:52 AM
In my opinion, only human are good or evil, not God. Assign this human things to something that we dont know if exists or not, is an error and a way to avoid our own acts.

God created this world and man. And people themselves make this world good or evil. It all depends on who is treating different things and situations. And there are more good in this world.
If God created all that is on earth, then God created the evil also. Most likely for balance or for people to have an understanding of why good should be good. Although evil exists not only in the world of people. Among animals this is also seen.

Evil must be for balance, but God can not create evil. Evil is creating evil. Then the question arises who created God and the devil?

As said in the bible, God created evil. Please go read your bible. God created evil, as for who created God? His God, we don't know.

The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil.

Then God did what the evil would do to Him and to mankind. He died in the form of God and man... Jesus dying on the cross. When Jesus arose on the third day, God showed that evil had been conquered.

We all die as did God in the form of Jesus. We all will rise as did Jesus in the form of man. Evil is gone since Jesus did His work of dying and rising. Even the semblance of evil that we see in this life will be entirely gone when we rise from the dead.

8)

Then based on your comment,"The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil", you're saying mankind is greater than God. For us to have an ability to create a concept such as evil which "God" was unaware of proves that he is not omnipotent, or at the very least, omniscience(all knowing) and that we can create things even he had no concept of prior...

Your words are contradicting and hurting your argument, BADECKER.

God created evil, all things comes from God. Every hurtful, sinful thing, murder, rape, etc etc, all comes from God...and that's according to the bible.

God, in His love and kindness, is trying to give mankind the best. Freedom to create and do evil is freedom. If we didn't have freedom, we would be like the animals, definitely not the best.

God was aware of the concept of evil right when the devil created it. There is no way to be aware of a concept that doesn't exist.

Your agenda keeps your mind from thinking clearly enough to understand what is going on. So, your words are faulty as is your thinking.

God didn't create evil. He is even destroying the evil that was created. In the new heaven and earth there will be no evil. Even those who are against God (this is evil) will be destroyed in the lake of fire, where they will be smelted down over eternity so that God can get His energy back from them... in its basic form, of course. God is greater than and beyond eternity.

8)

Again, you're making no sense. You haven't even attempted to rebuff my claim.

If I go by your viewpoint that humans created the concept of evil, then that means humans have power over god, since humans can create a concept that even god in unaware of. And here's where everyone can see you have No Idea what you're talking about. You previously said this, " The loving, giving God created evil at the request of mankind and the devil, who created the concept of evil". Now, you're saying this, "God didn't create evil", and this, "God was aware of the concept of evil right when the devil created it.". So you yourself have no idea what you're saying, Lmao. You're contradicting what you're saying entirely...

So...it's either you believe humans are powerful enough to outsmart god itself, or that god created evil. One or the other.

Since the bible clearly says god created/creates evil as shown here(Please go open your nearest bible and take a look): Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


What is there to rebut? The Bible says that God creates evil, right.

The thing that the Bible doesn't say is that God IS evil. In fact, quite the opposite. Jesus, Himself, said that God alone is good.

Just because you can't understand how God can be only good, and yet create evil, isn't important. Either you believe God or you don't.

All I have been doing is attempting to explain to folks HOW God can create evil, and still only be good.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: GooCust04 on April 14, 2017, 12:44:53 PM
There is no love of God. We can't see her. Moreover the world is so not fair that only greedy people can build such a world as ours. If God was he would not be allowed. It's people talking about what God brings love, and themselves at this time frightening. Religion is evil.
Probably you have been greatly offended in life if you are so angry at the world and God. Many people are those who believe in God helps to live and they are doing well with life and faith at the same time.
Who all is well with life, they do not believe in God. Look at the majority of billionaires. They all have earned by deception and cunning. I doubt that they believe in God.

Yes. I even think that many wealthy people worship the devil and he gives them a lot of money.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Marcus_2017 on April 14, 2017, 01:18:39 PM
There is no love of God. We can't see her. Moreover the world is so not fair that only greedy people can build such a world as ours. If God was he would not be allowed. It's people talking about what God brings love, and themselves at this time frightening. Religion is evil.
Probably you have been greatly offended in life if you are so angry at the world and God. Many people are those who believe in God helps to live and they are doing well with life and faith at the same time.
Who all is well with life, they do not believe in God. Look at the majority of billionaires. They all have earned by deception and cunning. I doubt that they believe in God.

Yes. I even think that many wealthy people worship the devil and he gives them a lot of money.
There is neither God nor the devil. Any religion is evil. So many people who died because of religious controversy has not died in all wars. Rich money brings not the devil, but from experience and the availability of seed capital.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BitcoinFutureCoin on April 14, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 14, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.

Around the world, many nations have the death penalty for certain crimes. For example, if you have a serial killer on the loose, and you catch him, you don't want him in public, right? And why should you spend 50 years supporting him in prison? And besides, since he has killed other people, isn't only right that He die, as well? Execute him.

God is the owner of all things. He is patient for years when people do wrong things. But since He is the owner, He has the right to put any of us to death that He wants. When He does it, He does it righteously, both because He is owner, and because there are reasons that even WE would agree with, if we looked at the complete situation.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: 0xfff on April 14, 2017, 02:12:00 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.

Around the world, many nations have the death penalty for certain crimes. For example, if you have a serial killer on the loose, and you catch him, you don't want him in public, right? And why should you spend 50 years supporting him in prison? And besides, since he has killed other people, isn't only right that He die, as well? Execute him.

God is the owner of all things. He is patient for years when people do wrong things. But since He is the owner, He has the right to put any of us to death that He wants. When He does it, He does it righteously, both because He is owner, and because there are reasons that even WE would agree with, if we looked at the complete situation.

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What if he didn't kill anyone and he is completely innocent? Might as well execute him.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 14, 2017, 02:37:54 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.

Around the world, many nations have the death penalty for certain crimes. For example, if you have a serial killer on the loose, and you catch him, you don't want him in public, right? And why should you spend 50 years supporting him in prison? And besides, since he has killed other people, isn't only right that He die, as well? Execute him.

God is the owner of all things. He is patient for years when people do wrong things. But since He is the owner, He has the right to put any of us to death that He wants. When He does it, He does it righteously, both because He is owner, and because there are reasons that even WE would agree with, if we looked at the complete situation.

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What if he didn't kill anyone and he is completely innocent? Might as well execute him.

If a person in this life were completely innocent of all wrongdoing, it is still the nature of the human body to be corrupted regarding life itself. The completely innocent person would die of natural causes because of this natural corruption, although he might live far longer than normal. Of course, there are some people who would still say that God did it... killed him.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Marcus_2017 on April 14, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.

Around the world, many nations have the death penalty for certain crimes. For example, if you have a serial killer on the loose, and you catch him, you don't want him in public, right? And why should you spend 50 years supporting him in prison? And besides, since he has killed other people, isn't only right that He die, as well? Execute him.

God is the owner of all things. He is patient for years when people do wrong things. But since He is the owner, He has the right to put any of us to death that He wants. When He does it, He does it righteously, both because He is owner, and because there are reasons that even WE would agree with, if we looked at the complete situation.

8)
This is the main reason I don't recognize religion. All believers consider themselves as slaves. They are willing to bow before a God whom no one has ever seen. And willing to justify it for all. Slaves!


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 14, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.

Around the world, many nations have the death penalty for certain crimes. For example, if you have a serial killer on the loose, and you catch him, you don't want him in public, right? And why should you spend 50 years supporting him in prison? And besides, since he has killed other people, isn't only right that He die, as well? Execute him.

God is the owner of all things. He is patient for years when people do wrong things. But since He is the owner, He has the right to put any of us to death that He wants. When He does it, He does it righteously, both because He is owner, and because there are reasons that even WE would agree with, if we looked at the complete situation.

8)
This is the main reason I don't recognize religion. All believers consider themselves as slaves. They are willing to bow before a God whom no one has ever seen. And willing to justify it for all. Slaves!

Religion doesn't have anything to do with it, or it has everything to do with it. People are religious creatures. Your religion is what you believe that is exemplified by the life you live.

All people are slaves. You can't jump into outer space using only your legs. You are a slave to gravity (or density, as flat earthers are). In addition, we are all slaves to many other things in life.

The difference is, religious people recognize that they are slaves, and they act accordingly. Just because a non-religious person doesn't recognize he is a slave, doesn't mean he isn't.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: DocGTR on April 14, 2017, 04:15:44 PM
There is no love of God. We can't see her. Moreover the world is so not fair that only greedy people can build such a world as ours. If God was he would not be allowed. It's people talking about what God brings love, and themselves at this time frightening. Religion is evil.
Probably you have been greatly offended in life if you are so angry at the world and God. Many people are those who believe in God helps to live and they are doing well with life and faith at the same time.
Who all is well with life, they do not believe in God. Look at the majority of billionaires. They all have earned by deception and cunning. I doubt that they believe in God.

Yes. I even think that many wealthy people worship the devil and he gives them a lot of money.
There is neither God nor the devil. Any religion is evil. So many people who died because of religious controversy has not died in all wars. Rich money brings not the devil, but from experience and the availability of seed capital.

The rich do not become slaves of religion, do not wait for miracles and do not spend time on prayers. They just make money.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: 0xfff on April 14, 2017, 04:36:35 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.

Around the world, many nations have the death penalty for certain crimes. For example, if you have a serial killer on the loose, and you catch him, you don't want him in public, right? And why should you spend 50 years supporting him in prison? And besides, since he has killed other people, isn't only right that He die, as well? Execute him.

God is the owner of all things. He is patient for years when people do wrong things. But since He is the owner, He has the right to put any of us to death that He wants. When He does it, He does it righteously, both because He is owner, and because there are reasons that even WE would agree with, if we looked at the complete situation.

8)
This is the main reason I don't recognize religion. All believers consider themselves as slaves. They are willing to bow before a God whom no one has ever seen. And willing to justify it for all. Slaves!

Religion doesn't have anything to do with it, or it has everything to do with it. People are religious creatures. Your religion is what you believe that is exemplified by the life you live.

All people are slaves. You can't jump into outer space using only your legs. You are a slave to gravity (or density, as flat earthers are). In addition, we are all slaves to many other things in life.

The difference is, religious people recognize that they are slaves, and they act accordingly. Just because a non-religious person doesn't recognize he is a slave, doesn't mean he isn't.

8)

Sorry sir but I am in the bitcoin rocket ready for take off. I am no slave to gravity. I will be going past the moon soon.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 14, 2017, 07:52:03 PM
Yea that is true if he even exist.I think that God is not really 100% perfect good person if he exist because he also killed humans with flood and soem of them survived and many other things so I think that he is also sometimes devil.

Around the world, many nations have the death penalty for certain crimes. For example, if you have a serial killer on the loose, and you catch him, you don't want him in public, right? And why should you spend 50 years supporting him in prison? And besides, since he has killed other people, isn't only right that He die, as well? Execute him.

God is the owner of all things. He is patient for years when people do wrong things. But since He is the owner, He has the right to put any of us to death that He wants. When He does it, He does it righteously, both because He is owner, and because there are reasons that even WE would agree with, if we looked at the complete situation.

8)
This is the main reason I don't recognize religion. All believers consider themselves as slaves. They are willing to bow before a God whom no one has ever seen. And willing to justify it for all. Slaves!

Religion doesn't have anything to do with it, or it has everything to do with it. People are religious creatures. Your religion is what you believe that is exemplified by the life you live.

All people are slaves. You can't jump into outer space using only your legs. You are a slave to gravity (or density, as flat earthers are). In addition, we are all slaves to many other things in life.

The difference is, religious people recognize that they are slaves, and they act accordingly. Just because a non-religious person doesn't recognize he is a slave, doesn't mean he isn't.

8)

Sorry sir but I am in the bitcoin rocket ready for take off. I am no slave to gravity. I will be going past the moon soon.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The rest of us are going to stay here and collect all the bitcoins the rocket blasts out of its tubes.

 ;)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: MetalGear on April 16, 2017, 04:26:59 AM
God is good not all the time.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 16, 2017, 04:38:29 AM
God is good all the eternity.    8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: DicePlayer21 on April 16, 2017, 10:26:47 AM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Fizamcc on April 16, 2017, 03:47:12 PM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 16, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people.

Religion was created by God to get as many people to be saved as possible. Over the ages, people have warped the good religion of God.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 16, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Really?  Your God waits until the rapist finishes raping a child then gives him the punishment.

If I saw someone raping anyone I would intervene and put a stop to it

Your God takes a pleasure from watching a child being raped then takes  pleasure to administer the punishment.

My morals are superior to your God's morals.

People are different. A person who watches and waits until the rape is finished might stop a bank robbery in progress. You would stop a rape, but you continually badmouth the one, holy God. So, you are just like the others... partial in the good and bad things you do.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BitcoinFutureCoin on April 17, 2017, 03:20:49 PM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people.

Yea this is true I am sure in that.Muslim religion is created by some man,chiristianity is created by man,budism is created by man,which religion is created by something what is not  a human,humans are big liarsand they have big imagination so I can trust to this.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: MioTaiHeo on April 17, 2017, 06:28:32 PM
In many religions, God is both good and evil. He can give life, and can take it. This is the power and the supreme intelligence and we can not judge it. In our understanding, good and evil can be wrong


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 17, 2017, 10:49:53 PM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people.

Yea this is true I am sure in that.Muslim religion is created by some man,chiristianity is created by man,budism is created by man,which religion is created by something what is not  a human,humans are big liarsand they have big imagination so I can trust to this.

But since your religion - which speaks about the above religions - was definitely made up by a person, how can you tell if it is right?

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Fireblazer on April 18, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
In many religions, God is both good and evil. He can give life, and can take it. This is the power and the supreme intelligence and we can not judge it. In our understanding, good and evil can be wrong

God is the side of good, and the devil is the side of evil. The world is so created for balance, because everything can not be only good or only evil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: alexey199773 on April 19, 2017, 06:35:40 PM
In many religions, God is both good and evil. He can give life, and can take it. This is the power and the supreme intelligence and we can not judge it. In our understanding, good and evil can be wrong

God is the side of good, and the devil is the side of evil. The world is so created for balance, because everything can not be only good or only evil.

I agree that there must be balance in the world. And that there is neither God nor the will. There is simply a Force that can be different. And people call it good and evil


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 20, 2017, 01:13:51 AM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people.

Religion was created by God to get as many people to be saved as possible. Over the ages, people have warped the good religion of God.

8)

Why God needs religion to "save" people?  If he created everything and rules the world, he can just do whatever he wants and that includes "saving" people. 
Not sure from what, but whatever....it is your logic, not mine.


Assuming that you are alive, God has saved you. It's only temporary, however, to give you a chance to think the thing out, and decide if you want to remain saved, or if you would rather be damned. So far, it looks like you are choosing damnation.

God didn't use religion to save you. He created religion as the method whereby you make your choice. If He hadn't held your choice open for you, you would be damned outright. Same for everyone else. God, Himself, doesn't need religion for anything.

God can do anything, and probably has. This time around, God decided to do something a bit difficult for Himself. He put a touch of Himself in you and all of us so that He can't just snap His fingers, so to speak, and wullah, it happens. Rather, He has allowed you the ability to use your God-part to make your own choice - salvation or damnation. As long as you live, He holds this choice open for you.

God's logic is way greater than either yours or mine. However, you know this from all your religious studies. You don't need me to tell it to you, but you really need yourself to lie about it to yourself as you have been doing.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: vips on April 20, 2017, 08:55:12 AM
God is an infinite love for everything on earth. Kindness is one of the manifestations of love. And what people perceive as evil is a manifestation of justice.
A few months ago, I was describing panentheism to a discussion group at my church. One of the members objected and said, “God can’t be in everything and everything can’t be in God, because that would mean that there is evil in God and there is God in evil…” To which I responded, “Yes.”

Evil exists…good exists…greed exists…generosity exists…hate exists…love exists….They are all part of the process of the universe, at least in human relations. :)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: yogg on April 20, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
There is no good or evil, absolutely.

Nothing is good or evil on the universe scale. The whole earth could blow up, start would still shine thousants of AU from there.
If you look with a very limited point of view, we call "good" the things that satisfy some selfish need or bad those that add some more pain to your existence.
Nothing more.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: loyalsenok2012 on April 25, 2017, 07:18:48 AM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people.

Religion was created by God to get as many people to be saved as possible. Over the ages, people have warped the good religion of God.

8)

Why God needs religion to "save" people?  If he created everything and rules the world, he can just do whatever he wants and that includes "saving" people. 
Not sure from what, but whatever....it is your logic, not mine.


Religion has nothing to do with God. It was created by people in order to manage them. People themselves will determine what is evil and what is good. And God as a single beginning is both good and evil


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Zisove28 on April 25, 2017, 08:00:06 AM
God is good all the eternity.    8)

Are you sure?  He does not stop people from killing each other in his names.

6 million of Jesus's compatriots were gased to death by Jesus followers.  Does Jesus give a fuck? No.  Why not?  Because myths cannot stop killings.

Only rational people can stop it.


Evil people always use religion for their own purposes. This is evidenced by history, and at the same time, God does not participate here. Faith and God only in the soul of man and this is purely personal. Otherwise we can cite an example of a crusade or even the actions of the Inquisition.

Religion was created by evil people to achieve their goals and control other naive people.

Religion was created by God to get as many people to be saved as possible. Over the ages, people have warped the good religion of God.

8)

Why God needs religion to "save" people?  If he created everything and rules the world, he can just do whatever he wants and that includes "saving" people. 
Not sure from what, but whatever....it is your logic, not mine.


Religion has nothing to do with God. It was created by people in order to manage them. People themselves will determine what is evil and what is good. And God as a single beginning is both good and evil

Yes, religion has nothing to do with God. But God is the side of good, and the devil is the side of evil for balance in the world.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Samuel21 on April 25, 2017, 08:27:49 AM
Religion is always on the side of the state. For me the government is evil, therefore religion is also evil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: transabox on April 25, 2017, 12:41:17 PM
Religion is always on the side of the state. For me the government is evil, therefore religion is also evil.

Religion was created for the management of people and eventually became very good friends with the authorities. But now there are new types of religion that go against the system and their state is trying to destroy so that they do not interfere with people's management.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 25, 2017, 03:29:50 PM
Religion is always on the side of the state. For me the government is evil, therefore religion is also evil.

Religion was created for the management of people and eventually became very good friends with the authorities. But now there are new types of religion that go against the system and their state is trying to destroy so that they do not interfere with people's management.

Check out the definition of religion at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t. It shows that everybody has religion, even if it is only his own personal religion. This means that religion has a higher creator than the State, or a bunch of authorities.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Ardhi on April 26, 2017, 07:56:49 AM
god isnt an evil. it was not the same


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: pseexh on April 26, 2017, 08:54:48 AM
God is only the creator. Good or evil is done by man himself, God can only give life.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: LivingDeath on April 26, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
What do you expect from people that believe in fairy tales?  Intelligence? 

lol. not very diplomatic  ;D


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Experia on April 27, 2017, 12:12:29 AM
thats a false belief ,for my own opinion sir like  what u said GOD "created" bot evil and good "just to make it balance" . like heaven and earth . its up to us if we do good or evil .


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: wutard on April 27, 2017, 04:29:47 PM
thats a false belief ,for my own opinion sir like  what u said GOD "created" bot evil and good "just to make it balance" . like heaven and earth . its up to us if we do good or evil .

Right. In the world there must be a balance and eternal struggle between good and evil otherwise life will be boring and meaningless.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 28, 2017, 11:08:51 AM
thats a false belief ,for my own opinion sir like  what u said GOD "created" bot evil and good "just to make it balance" . like heaven and earth . its up to us if we do good or evil .

Right. In the world there must be a balance and eternal struggle between good and evil otherwise life will be boring and meaningless.

Good is way stronger than evil. An example might be a forest fire. The fire can destroy a forest in a couple of days, but the forest comes back even though it takes many years.

Also, take a house for example. It takes a couple weeks to many months to build a house. But a bulldozer can knock it down in a few hours.

How does this show that good is stronger? If evil were stronger, "stuff," that is much easier to destroy than build, would have all been destroyed long ago. Yet good stuff remains and grows.

War can destroy many lives. And there have been many wars that have done just that over the years. Yet we have the greatest world population of all times right now. Evil war can't destroy the good of people. Good is greater, even though evil takes what seems the easy way out.

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Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: salemon on April 29, 2017, 11:55:23 AM
This person can be accused of doing evil, and God is not a man, he is the force from which everything is born, including good and evil.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 29, 2017, 01:57:35 PM
This person can be accused of doing evil, and God is not a man, he is the force from which everything is born, including good and evil.

Yet, God did not think up the evil. He only created it at the request of man and the devil. God has no evil in Himself whatsoever.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Konst on April 29, 2017, 02:51:57 PM
Indeed he is :)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: BADecker on April 29, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
The look of evil isn't evil. Why not? Because Jesus took the punishment for all evil, thereby destroying it. So, God isn't evil, no matter what. Only people who don't accept Jesus as their Savior retain the evil. Why do they? Because God has given them the strength to reject Jesus, and they willingly do so.

8)


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: PancherBitCoin on April 29, 2017, 07:26:20 PM
The one who sincerely believes in God understands where good and evil come from and what are the components of the big world that can not be without each other as in electricity and plus and minus as the North Pole is opposed to the South Pole.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: pauljumbo on April 30, 2017, 08:41:08 AM
yes he is both evil and good
but how you look at it matters most


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Joshuar on June 04, 2017, 07:56:59 PM
This person can be accused of doing evil, and God is not a man, he is the force from which everything is born, including good and evil.

Yet, God did not think up the evil. He only created it at the request of man and the devil. God has no evil in Himself whatsoever.

8)

That's an impossibility. To say that God did not think up evil is saying that God is not omniscient(all knowing). Aka, you're saying God is not god....Your points contradict themselves.

As said many times before, the bible itself says that God is both good and evil. The end.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: hovrah on June 04, 2017, 08:04:15 PM
I would not have been bored with patience and did not come up with such questions. It seems to me that all blasphemy and not Faith will be punished somewhere. You need to be attentive to your thoughts and saying about religion and God.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Dawsonm on July 20, 2017, 10:33:46 AM
God is evil for some times and good for some times why?
It was based upon our sins .
so try to do good for people.
It will lead you to the heaven.


Title: Re: God is both good and evil
Post by: Dawsonm on July 20, 2017, 11:02:05 AM
There are two types of god.
one is good god and another is evil god.
When we do sins we may face bad situations.
so be good to people.