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Title: 86% segwit support from users Post by: manselr on March 24, 2017, 02:00:00 PM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7oUo3LVsAAWEQZ.png
So a couple of chinese idiots with a lot of hashrate given by the chinese government in order to deploy the BUcoin trojan horse think their plan will work when literally nobody gives a fuck about the BUcoin software because it's a buggy mess, will release closed source patches, will ellect a president and secretary of bitcoin (LOL) and will base their scaling roadmap in a flawed concept (Emergent Consensus). What can go wrong? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C63IF2aVAAIscwV.jpg Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: franky1 on March 24, 2017, 02:15:47 PM So a couple of chinese idiots with a lot of hashrate given by the chinese government in order to deploy the BUcoin trojan horse think their plan will work when literally nobody gives a fuck about the BUcoin software because it's a buggy mess, proof that if a miner tries blocks over 1mb, WITHOUT consensus... its rejected and trashed in 3 seconds Code: 2017-01-29 06:59:12 Requesting block 000000000000000000cf208f521de0424677f7a87f2f278a1042f38d159565f5 so that debunks everyones scripted FUD rhetoric of how dynamic miners have control.. 3 seconds gone. P.S dynamic implementations need NODE AND POOL CONSENSUS. segwit are the ones that bypassed NODE consensus. and segwits Bip9 can drop its pool thrshold below 95%. oh and core can UASF ban hammer and change mining algo to get that threshold even lower.. its core with the deadlines and threats.. all while other open and diverse implementations have just run for the last 2 years with no deadlines no ACTUAL threats and just ltting the community have a free open choice.. take it or leave it will ellect a president and secretary of bitcoin (LOL) and will base their scaling roadmap in a flawed concept (Emergent Consensus). What can go wrong? ADAM BACK CEO blockstream Gmaxwell CTO blockstream moderator of technical discussion and (implied by obvious CTO) boss of cor devs Luke Jr blockstream contractor moderator of other aspects. core came into existance in 2014 and incorporated their lead company in 2014.. allowing 100 unpaid interns to kiss ass hoping for a scoop of the $70m and a glossy blockstream namebadge if they kiss ass Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: manselr on March 24, 2017, 02:17:33 PM So a couple of chinese idiots with a lot of hashrate given by the chinese government in order to deploy the BUcoin trojan horse think their plan will work when literally nobody gives a fuck about the BUcoin software because it's a buggy mess, proof that if a miner tries blocks over 1mb, WITHOUT consensus... its rejected and trashed in 3 seconds Code: 2017-01-29 06:59:12 Requesting block 000000000000000000cf208f521de0424677f7a87f2f278a1042f38d159565f5 so that debunks everyones scripted FUD rhetoric of how dynamic miners have control.. 3 seconds gone. P.S dynamic implementations need NODE AND POOL CONSENSUS. segwit are the ones that bypassed NODE consensus. and segwits Bip9 can drop its pool thrshold below 95%. oh and core can UASF ban hammer and change mining algo to get that threshold even lower.. its core with the deadlines and threats.. all while other open and diverse implementations have just run for the last 2 years with no deadlines no ACTUAL threats and just ltting the community have a free open choice.. take it or leave it Quote will ellect a president and secretary of bitcoin (LOL) and will base their scaling roadmap in a flawed concept (Emergent Consensus). What can go wrong? ADAM BACK CEO blockstream Gmaxwell CTO blockstream Gmaxwell moderator or technical discussion Luke Jr moderator of other aspects. core came into existance in 2014 and incorporated their lead company in 2014.. allowing 100 unpaid interns to kiss ass hoping for a scoop of the $70m and a glossy blockstream namebadge if they kiss ass Blah blah blah. Same shit as always by this paid nerd. Get a life. Facts remain: 1) BUcoin is shit software and no one supports it 2) 1) Now go out for a walk, it's friday. Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: franky1 on March 24, 2017, 02:20:02 PM Blah blah blah. Same shit as always by this paid nerd. Get a life. Facts remain: 1) BUcoin is shit software and no one supports it 2) 1) Now go out for a walk, it's friday. lol there are more implementations than just BU, so why fear BU? Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: manselr on March 24, 2017, 02:26:15 PM Blah blah blah. Same shit as always by this paid nerd. Get a life. Facts remain: 1) BUcoin is shit software and no one supports it 2) 1) Now go out for a walk, it's friday. lol there are more implementations than just BU, so why fear BU? Because BU has been the selected software-trojan horse by deep pocketed agencies and states to bribe the chinese mafia into mining it. "President and secretary of bitcoin" lmao. Chinese state-funded goon Jihan Wu, Bribed Ver and CIA agent Gavin Andresen want to obviously turn bitcoin into a political machine. Remember this? http://coinjournal.net/gavin-andresen-mike-hearn-will-be-the-benevolent-dictator-of-bitcoinxt/ Same shit all over again. Too bad users will never compromise their holdings by supporting anything that isn't the reliable Core software, no matter how much they pay Jihan Wu to mine that trash. Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: franky1 on March 24, 2017, 02:29:57 PM you think Jihan is the threat.
lets put the shoe on the other foot. without consensus. this is what would happen to a 1mb+ block maybe jihan produces without pool and node consensus. even he knows to not waste 10mins of electric for 3 second reject Code: 2017-01-29 06:59:12 Requesting block 000000000000000000cf208f521de0424677f7a87f2f278a1042f38d159565f5 you have been sold into a script that holds no value of truth or no value of a scanerio that would work. maybe spend more time understanding how bitcoin works, to defend bitcoins decentralisation. then you wont be defending one brand incorporated and now wanting a centralised TIER network. segwit is the threat. read code, not reddit scripts.. it will enlighten you Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: manselr on March 24, 2017, 02:41:10 PM you think Jihan is the threat. lets put the shoe on the other foot. without consensus. this is what would happen to a 1mb+ block maybe jihan produces without pool and node consensus. even he knows to not waste 10mins of electric for 3 second reject Code: 2017-01-29 06:59:12 Requesting block 000000000000000000cf208f521de0424677f7a87f2f278a1042f38d159565f5 you have been sold into a script that holds no value of truth or no value of a scanerio that would work. maybe spend more time understanding how bitcoin works, to defend bitcoins decentralisation. then you wont be defending one brand incorporated and now wanting a centralised TIER network. segwit is the threat. read code, not reddit scripts.. it will enlighten you You are on record shilling BUcoin which is based upon a "Economic Consensus" concept which doesn't work and you should know it if you knew how to read code. You would also not run software that keeps getting bundled with exploits to the point incompetent developers had to resort to closed source patching. Stop trying to sound smart. Smart people are on github not on bitcointalk 24/7 giving lessons about what is or isn't great code. Segwit has been peer reviewed by every expert on the field, it remains objectively the best step forward. EC has been peer reviewed by every expert on the field, it remains dogshit. You should stop thinking you are special and start outsourcing to people that actually knows how things work instead of thinking every expert on the field (including neutral people like Andreas) which all agree on segwit being the best, being part of some sort of conspiracy or they being all idiots and franky1 being the number 1 coder in the game, when all you have to show is posting all day on a forum and 0 code. Give me a break. Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: franky1 on March 24, 2017, 02:51:11 PM You are on record shilling BUcoin which is based upon a "Economic Consensus" concept which doesn't work and you should know it if you knew how to read code. You would also not run software that keeps getting bundled with exploits to the point incompetent developers had to resort to closed source patching. Stop trying to sound smart. Smart people are on github not on bitcointalk 24/7 giving lessons about what is or isn't great code. Segwit has been peer reviewed by expert on the field, it remains objectively the best step forward. goodluck moving them 46mill UTXO to segwit keys to get your segwit promises oh malicious users wont move over to segwit keys. so forget ever getting rid of malleability, sigop and databloat spam. though looking at the dates of the spam, its obvious who is causing the spam to try selling their proposals https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=1year june/july - CSV october onwards -segwit oh and which 'team' removed reactive fee's (which drop in low demand) and replaced with average fee's to keep it up even in low demand times - core oh and which 'team' removed priority and thinks that bankers 'just pay more' economics is better then coding some actual rules - core oh and which 'team' made the biggest fork drama in the past - core 0.7-0.8 oh and which 'team' has all the snobby centralist ban hammers and coin splitter and mining destroying ideas - core if you think the activation of segwit is the 'fix' keep learning Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: xskl0 on March 24, 2017, 02:55:53 PM 28% of the miners signalling Segwit, new record
Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: Darkbot on March 24, 2017, 03:31:44 PM you think Jihan is the threat. lets put the shoe on the other foot. without consensus. this is what would happen to a 1mb+ block maybe jihan produces without pool and node consensus. even he knows to not waste 10mins of electric for 3 second reject Code: 2017-01-29 06:59:12 Requesting block 000000000000000000cf208f521de0424677f7a87f2f278a1042f38d159565f5 you have been sold into a script that holds no value of truth or no value of a scanerio that would work. maybe spend more time understanding how bitcoin works, to defend bitcoins decentralisation. then you wont be defending one brand incorporated and now wanting a centralised TIER network. segwit is the threat. read code, not reddit scripts.. it will enlighten you You are on record shilling BUcoin which is based upon a "Economic Consensus" concept which doesn't work and you should know it if you knew how to read code. You would also not run software that keeps getting bundled with exploits to the point incompetent developers had to resort to closed source patching. Stop trying to sound smart. Smart people are on github not on bitcointalk 24/7 giving lessons about what is or isn't great code. Segwit has been peer reviewed by expert on the field, it remains objectively the best step forward. EC has been peer reviewed by every expert on the field, it remains dogshit. You should stop thinking you are special and start outsourcing to people that actually knows how things work instead of thinking every expert on the field (including neutral people like Andreas) which all agree on segwit being the best, being part of some sort of conspiracy or they being all idiots and franky1 being the number 1 coder in the game, when all you have to show is posting all day on a forum and 0 code. Give me a break. Well said Manselr! +1 This uber shill Franky1 needs to troll this BS at Github, he wont do that he knows he will get facerolled all over the place. Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: Vaskiy on March 24, 2017, 04:06:52 PM Yeah segwit seems to get more support from the miners over the days to come. At the same now the price decline has been making people fear a lot. Now the decline in price has go beyond limit than expected by the users being low than $1000.
Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: K128kevin2 on March 24, 2017, 04:49:02 PM there are more implementations than just BU, so why fear BU? I'm not against more implementations of Bitcoin. I'm just against people shoving their favorite, consensus breaking implementation flavor of the month down my throat.Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: kiklo on March 25, 2017, 04:46:10 AM Segwit = DeadWIT,
They will never achieve 95%. BTU on the other hand can achieve activation with only 55% , only ~15% more to go. :D 8) Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: Killerpotleaf on March 25, 2017, 04:51:44 AM you're all Fing stupid, STFU and incress the block size and implement some type of segwit.
Seriously BURN any core dev that isn't for both Win-Win upgrades. Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: franky1 on March 25, 2017, 04:54:23 AM Because core(blockstream) has been the selected software-trojan horse by deep pocketed agencies and states to bribe the chinese mafia into mining it. FTFY blockstream CEO CTO.. BTCC, bitfury .. lol follow the money.. DCG Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: franky1 on March 25, 2017, 04:55:57 AM there are more implementations than just BU, so why fear BU? I'm not against more implementations of Bitcoin. I'm just against people shoving their favorite, consensus breaking implementation flavor of the month down my throat.the only one bypassing consensus is core. they intentionally and publicly said they prefer giving only the pools the vote.. bypassing the nodes Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: Kevin77 on March 25, 2017, 12:25:02 PM there are more implementations than just BU, so why fear BU? I'm not against more implementations of Bitcoin. I'm just against people shoving their favorite, consensus breaking implementation flavor of the month down my throat.Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: naughty1 on March 25, 2017, 01:08:31 PM This is a good news, a great thing for bitcoin. If segwit is accepted, it will bring a lot of advantages to bitcoin, and bitcoin can grow strongly. However, 86% is not enough, segwit needs 95% people agree, it is a very high rate, so it is very difficult. I do not know why people are against segwit, some people choose BU. BU is like an altcoin, and it should not appear, because bitcoin is a core coin, it's not altcoin. They made the wrong idea.
Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: Xester on March 25, 2017, 02:07:30 PM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7oUo3LVsAAWEQZ.png So a couple of chinese idiots with a lot of hashrate given by the chinese government in order to deploy the BUcoin trojan horse think their plan will work when literally nobody gives a fuck about the BUcoin software because it's a buggy mess, will release closed source patches, will ellect a president and secretary of bitcoin (LOL) and will base their scaling roadmap in a flawed concept (Emergent Consensus). What can go wrong? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C63IF2aVAAIscwV.jpg Segwit has many supporters as of this day with good promotion coming from its supporters and with is less risky feature compared to bitcoin unlimitehd who is susceptible to bugs. This just means that segwit is less risky compared to bu and is more promising. With Bitcoin core supporting segwit, it will attract more users and gain more attention than BU. Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: Kprawn on March 25, 2017, 02:42:10 PM Blah blah blah. Same shit as always by this paid nerd. Get a life. Facts remain: 1) BUcoin is shit software and no one supports it 2) 1) Now go out for a walk, it's friday. lol there are more implementations than just BU, so why fear BU? We do not fear BU, but rather the code and developers behind it... Franky, if you cannot see the problem with that, I truly feel sorry for you. You make some good points, but BU dev team is a joke. { within a few weeks, they have dropped the ball several times } The Blockstream group are not just focused on Bitcoin.. their mandate go further than that... Their first priority seems to be BTC, but the "solutions" they are working on, can be used on other Alt coins too. All companies have a organizational structure ... even Bitcoin. Gavin was the Lead developer for a long while, after Satoshi left the scene. Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: hv_ on March 25, 2017, 03:19:07 PM Blah blah blah. Same shit as always by this paid nerd. Get a life. Facts remain: 1) BUcoin is shit software and no one supports it 2) 1) Now go out for a walk, it's friday. lol there are more implementations than just BU, so why fear BU? We do not fear BU, but rather the code and developers behind it... Franky, if you cannot see the problem with that, I truly feel sorry for you. You make some good points, but BU dev team is a joke. { within a few weeks, they have dropped the ball several times } The Blockstream group are not just focused on Bitcoin.. their mandate go further than that... Their first priority seems to be BTC, but the "solutions" they are working on, can be used on other Alt coins too. All companies have a organizational structure ... even Bitcoin. Gavin was the Lead developer for a long while, after Satoshi left the scene. Are you sure SW stuff is really better? Why is not even Litecoin live with it? We should not care about single teams,better diversify and open bitcoin coding to more like a proper protokoll? Why are miners convinced ? Runinng some user node is no risk to me. Users need not really care like miners do. And yes side sold stuff like LN RSK,.... looks ok on pure user / consumers perspective. Very clear that here more keep core just not to think much about any change that might be needed? Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: XbladeX on March 25, 2017, 04:32:15 PM *** Are you sure SW stuff is really better? Why is not even Litecoin live with it? *** Litecoin mining is controled in 80% by some chinise miner/company related to BTC. So if tat company decide to not add segwit it can not happened. https://litecointalk.io/t/call-to-all-f2pool-miners-please-switch/874 Quote This is true and for other major Chinese pools. 10 people from China - control more than 80% of the network hashrate. So same people mine BTC/LTC and stop segwit :) China.. Sadly answer to China say FUCK OFF is investing in ETH... (what a ridiculous ending) Title: Re: 86% segwit support from users Post by: hv_ on March 25, 2017, 05:33:49 PM *** Are you sure SW stuff is really better? Why is not even Litecoin live with it? *** Litecoin mining is controled in 80% by some chinise miner/company related to BTC. So if tat company decide to not add segwit it can not happened. https://litecointalk.io/t/call-to-all-f2pool-miners-please-switch/874 Quote This is true and for other major Chinese pools. 10 people from China - control more than 80% of the network hashrate. So same people mine BTC/LTC and stop segwit :) China.. Sadly answer to China say FUCK OFF is investing in ETH... (what a ridiculous ending) What does this teach you? We live on a sole planet and the internet opens all borders ( mostly ) but bitcoin does really. Chinese have been good in trading for thousands of years. I m happy to learn what and how they do! Play the game or you might get segregated ;D |
