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Title: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
so the problem is I forgot the password to the wallet but I do have the seed. but everytime I press the new/restore wallet button and put in the seed it just creates a new wallet without any of my funds. and the password dosent change on the my funds are in.

how can I restore my wallet without simply creating another one because ive tried this like 7 times and now I have 7 useless wallets.  ???


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 02, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
I'm assuming that you are using Electrum? If so, which version? while recovering your wallets, are you sure that you are connected into a server? and If you check the receiving tab, do you see addresses that you have used before? (If that tab is no longer available in the version you are using), try use the listaddresses() command in the console.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 06:40:46 PM
yes, im using electrum 2.7.9

for the rest of your questions hold on one second I have reboot real quick


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 06:51:08 PM
my version has previous addresses listed in history if your talking about transaction history with addresses. and yes im connected to a server the light is green.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 02, 2017, 06:58:06 PM
my version has previous addresses listed in history if your talking about transaction history with addresses. and yes im connected to a server the light is green.

I meant If the addresses after restoring the new wallet are the same as before doing the restore process. If it's the case, have you tried to export the private keys and import them somewhere else (another wallet)? that should do the trick.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 06:59:03 PM
my version has previous addresses listed in history if your talking about transaction history with addresses. and yes im connected to a server the light is green.

Have you checked the change addresses and used addresses to see if they contain your coins? If you sent coins from any of your original addresses electrum will sent what's left over to a new change address each time.

At the lower left of your electrum wallet window there should be a little triangle that you have to click to see your change addresses. It's next to the mouse pointer in this screenshot.

https://i.imgur.com/TO5r6OE.png


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 07:03:54 PM
no the funds that are locked in do not have the same addresses. your refereeing to the address under the address button right?


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 07:10:06 PM
you must be using a different electrum version of me I have the tails version


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 07:10:44 PM
no the funds that are locked in do not have the same addresses. your refereeing to the address under the address button right?

I'm referring to the addresses shown when you click the address tab with the mouse pointer hovering over it in this screenshot. If you scroll to the bottom of that address window, then click the triangle next to where it says "change" extra addresses should show up.

https://i.imgur.com/2yNYNRc.png


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 07:12:57 PM
you must be using a different electrum version of me I have the tails version

That probably explains it, I'm using the windows version. However the dev keeps changing the GUI, so one version might look different to the previous version even on the same operating system.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 07:16:28 PM
no problem each OS is different. so I found the address button now how do I transfer my coin out?


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 07:22:09 PM
no problem each OS is different. so I found the address button now how do I transfer my coin out?

Do you mean you can see the addresses containing your coins, or just a window full of addresses you don't recognise?


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 07:24:18 PM
just a window full of addresses I don't recognize.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 07:26:30 PM
just a window full of addresses I don't recognize.

Have you tried scrolling to the bottom of that window full of addresses and clicking the triangle with change written next to it like in this screenshot?

https://i.imgur.com/v7p7nnP.png


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 07:53:47 PM
yes none of the addresses match up



Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 07:59:44 PM
I installed electrum version 2.7.10 on windows, which is very close to your version. Does your version have an options button below the text box you type your seed into? If it has try clicking it and checking the BIP39 seed checkbox, then entering your seed.

This is what my electrum version 2.7.10 looks like after clicking the options button.

https://i.imgur.com/EZkRQbK.png


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 08:04:07 PM
in order to ender my seed I need to press file then new/restore

if I just try to click seed it requests my password wich I don't have so idk what to do I got 100 dollars tied up in this wallet.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: kolloh on April 02, 2017, 08:06:18 PM
in order to ender my seed I need to press file then new/restore

if I just try to click seed it requests my password wich I don't have so idk what to do I got 100 dollars tied up in this wallet.

Go ahead and click New/Restore and create a brand new wallet and then enter the seed in the manner indicated above. This should recreate the wallet based on the seed provided.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 08:15:09 PM
I recreated a wallet from seed in my windows version of electrum. These screenshots show the exact steps I made. Try doing it that way, if it's any different to what you were already doing.

https://i.imgur.com/Dwy18IF.png

https://i.imgur.com/LenlLJV.png

https://i.imgur.com/8mhrcVg.png

https://i.imgur.com/CmbGuua.png

https://i.imgur.com/F6O2rZc.png


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 08:21:14 PM
yeah I have no problem doing that but when I try to transfer the funds out of the old wallet it still asks me for the old password. so my funds are stuck in that wallet even though I have the seed for it


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: HI-TEC99 on April 02, 2017, 08:25:45 PM
yeah I have no problem doing that but when I try to transfer the funds out of the old wallet it still asks me for the old password. so my funds are stuck in that wallet even though I have the seed for it

Can you try installing an electrum on a windows computer instead of on tails, then restoring from your seed on the windows version of electrum?


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: andreibi on April 02, 2017, 08:27:47 PM
I recreated a wallet from seed in my windows version of electrum. These screenshots show the exact steps I made. Try doing it that way, if it's any different to what you were already doing.

https://s22.postimg.org/sjuykgqtd/image.png

https://s18.postimg.org/j70mk7bmh/image.png

https://s7.postimg.org/y4exy8i4b/image.png

https://s9.postimg.org/yk0uxnmcv/image.png

https://s28.postimg.org/ps8zfu81p/image.png

The seed above gives:
1KEDyPxsmzEEURrLAs43MUqssen6ndpwGy KwHU3RrT1qy2QBtW4zm2dgtHFy5L9rs7Cj7otT9y9wWC8b6ZaemG
1FGQA84jtbS1PBVhFAbaXX3DmndxFKqvEK L4yNzabSPuJQ2nGP6w5jUpnzUMTVMZn2su9z4KJEcDboZAEA77u6
etc
etc

OR:
14jBEkRx8cgYX51qJ5dW8YTBq5WuZGDBhq   Kz11sFBuuEfYUJpnwidJTzYTRr3881r5q1fUEahznf68zcGhtrje
1DGPBHNDmQPjXXbmSS2inskfsxLXgsjHA7   Kx2KzNNSGAL62Hdxh8BAUgKrp5H86CV6awNFeSs14KjjNHm8usD5

Use https://iancoleman.github.io/bip39/


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: m1n3r34 on April 02, 2017, 08:31:20 PM
thank a lot, ill definitely try that. I just gotta run to work now, so if that dosent work, ill be back ;D


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: Abdussamad on April 02, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
yeah I have no problem doing that but when I try to transfer the funds out of the old wallet it still asks me for the old password. so my funds are stuck in that wallet even though I have the seed for it

When you use file> new/restore you are creating a new wallet. Use file > open to open that wallet. Stop using your old wallet that has the password.

In your restored wallet look under "used" on the addresses tab to see if there are familiar addresses. If you are not seeing familiar addresses then you haven't successfully restored your wallet. In that case make sure the seed you have contains words from the electrum dictionary:

https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/lib/wordlist/english.txt

I also suggest restoring with the latest version of electrum. 2.8.3 is the latest. You should download it form electrum.org and install it. It may be hard to do that on TAILS so install it on the OS you have on your hard drive.

Also note that in 2.8.3 you have to press ctrl+a to bring the addresses tab into view.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 09, 2017, 05:21:29 AM
are you sure its not a gap limit issue?


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: Abdussamad on April 09, 2017, 08:22:46 AM
are you sure its not a gap limit issue?

well it could be but the guy is clearly a newb so i don't think he would have increased the gap limit.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 09, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
are you sure its not a gap limit issue?

well it could be but the guy is clearly a newb so i don't think he would have increased the gap limit.

If he used his wallet a lot in the past and it created many change addreses, and you're trying to
recreate it from seed, you wont see all of them.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 09, 2017, 03:00:42 PM
yeah I have no problem doing that but when I try to transfer the funds out of the old wallet it still asks me for the old password. so my funds are stuck in that wallet even though I have the seed for it

this shouldnt happen if you rename the wallet (instead of wallet_1) use a totally new name and old seed, you wont need the pwd then.  after that, if you dont see all your coins, increase the gap limit.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: Abdussamad on April 10, 2017, 09:55:08 AM
are you sure its not a gap limit issue?

well it could be but the guy is clearly a newb so i don't think he would have increased the gap limit.

If he used his wallet a lot in the past and it created many change addreses, and you're trying to
recreate it from seed, you wont see all of them.

It's only a problem if you change the gap limit from the default. Otherwise electrum will discover all your change addresses too.

Also electrum is backward compatible with old seeds.

We see threads like these all the time but unfortunately we never learn the outcome because the OPs always stops replying. I suspect it is because they figure out what mistake they made and correct it. But they don't bother telling us. Here again the OP has stopped replying. Hopefully he will chime in so we can understand what happened.


Title: Re: trying to recover my wallet with my seed but it just creates new wallets
Post by: andreibi on May 06, 2017, 11:38:37 AM

We see threads like these all the time but unfortunately we never learn the outcome because the OPs always stops replying. I suspect it is because they figure out what mistake they made and correct it. But they don't bother telling us. Here again the OP has stopped replying. Hopefully he will chime in so we can understand what happened.

He figured it out. It's just knowing the correct derivation path.