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Con man Roger Ver pays for Bitcoin Unlimited ads on Reddit via u/theymoslover. What's his financial interest in creating FUD and dividing Bitcoin?

in this forum have some guys that are paid too. always showing up arguing with ppl that are not in favor with BUg CHINESE coin.
then they just throw a lot of technical stuff but they don't see the whole context behind the scenes.

I think this guys must be so brainwashed they can't see the recent bitcoins news around the world, like japan adopting it, and this BUG chine coin will mess up everything.

Now they probably will show up with big texts,

I wanted to know how much are you guys profiting to defend bug chinese coin?  ;D

And what's the problem ? Bitcoin core is clearly doing a shit job, segwit was rejected, and the 1mb block limit shouldn't exist in the first place. You should first question Core why they support the 1MB blocks instead of picking on something really unimportant, trying to move the conversation away from the real problem; 1mb blocks.

thinking anything not core as a threat, is in itself the problem
thinking bitcoin needs core and only core is the problem

wake up and get out of your reddit scripts of kissing cores ass and start thinking of bitcoin. not king gmaxwell and queen theymos..
but instead think about bitcoin. the real decentralised diverse bitcoin.

many diverse decentralised node are a good thing.
one codebase is bad

wake up

OK let's centralize it in the hands of the communists , nice JOB dude.

Bitcoin Unlimited isn't that special. Most of the guys that are promoting that system is only trying to get more people to sway from Bitcoin so that they could purchase up the coins on the order books. It isn't any secret that the stuff going on with the upcoming stuff that is going on with the possibilities of Bitcoin (SegWit (https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/01/26/segwit-benefits/)) is going to make the price rise, that is why they want to have more coins before it does.

Why is he a con man?

Why do you say this is FUD?

Why is Roger not allowed to promote his preferred scaling solution and others are?

ITT: "Everyone I don't like is a paid shill - The emotional child's guide to Bitcoin discussion" [image needed]

No one said it is. The problem is bitcoin core, they seized bitcoin's development and roadmap to fit their goals, just like russia did with crimeea.

1. Calling Roger a con man is a bit too much IMO, we may not like him for what he is trying to do and his 'excessive' methods though.
2. Roger can do whatever he wants with his money, buying ads for Bitcoin Unlimited is not a crime.
3. He is convinced that Bitcoin Unlimited is the only way for bitcoin to evolve and Core's way is a dead end, it is his right to believe so.

your stuck in your reddit script cabin fever
its actually core that are communists

core gave only the miners a vote on core..
core should be questioning themselves about why there is no unanimous vote. and find out what core should add to make people say yes.. not just point fingers and scream that PoW nukes are needed... thats too much like north korea

core want a TIER network
all the other non-core implementations want a single network of PEERS

core set the threats, deadlines and PoW nuke time bombs.. other implementations have not.

its core that have gone 'full wetard' no one else

get out of your corner of the core cabin. wash off the sweat of your cabin fever.. brush your teeth from the ass kissing.
then take off your core defender costume and instead think about bitcoin

again i say this to make it clear. think about bitcoin. i do not mean core... i mean bitcoin. think beyond the cabin windows of the core cabin you have locked yourself in and think about the diverse and decentralised bitcoin

TBH i think Bitcoin needs a true respected leader like vitalik.

bitcoin needs no leaders

thats the problem people are still in the FIAT world dream of control. they dont understand bitcoins original ethos

Problem is bitcoin is flawed and it needs further developing. Satoshi released a cryptocurrency with no privacy that can't scale.

Edit: so it needs leaders, problem is, vitalik is probably the only guy in the public blockchain scene proven as a leader with skill, leadership, and high moral grounds. Bitcoin core seems corrupt to me.

Probably has some people that are willing to give him varying positions of influence among the BU system and the subsequent power structure that would be erected following a switch to something like BU. That's typically the main reason people are willing to spend resources to divide groups and try to sway public opinion one way or another.

Exactly.
This is one of the reasons for the Satoshi Nakamoto pseudonym.
Bitcoin was designed to be a decentralized currency controlled by the users, not one iron-fisted ruler. (Or group of rulers)

I agree that we shouldn't have one total and ultimate bitcoin leader. It is the best solution when everything is going smooth.
In calm times when there is no need for sudden changes, network has no problems with scaling and no one complains.

Situation may change however when we encounter a problem, network issues that are hard to solve and as a result fractions within community will form.
We are seeing something like that is happening now: Jihan + Roger vs. Core - it's similar situation when the King is dead and his sons are fighting for power.
There is also Satoshi Complex -  still pretty much alive within bitcoin community and some people are longing for that father figure to guide them.

the funny part is that jihan and ver dont want control of bitcoin.. but blockstream does.
you can point the finger in different directions and have as many rekt campaigns as you like. but the truth will always worm its way through that its core that want to be leaders, no one else

Rejected by who? A couple of chinese miners.

The rest are in with segwit:

The market has spoken. Segwit goes up = price goes up.

https://s12.postimg.org/4qtf02fij/segwitup2.png

Economic majority has spoken: All experts and relevant actors in the field are pro-segwit and anti-BU:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8HwIp7VwAEGPBb.jpg

https://medium.com/@21/using-21-to-survey-blockchain-personalities-on-the-bitcoin-hard-fork-1953c9bcb8ed

Node majority has spoken: Segwit support overwhelms Buggy Unlimited.

https://s1.postimg.org/qc16wc7qn/nodes1.png

Not that I follow satoshi's word's as if he was Jesus Christ himself, but even he warned us about the dangers of BUcoin:

https://s12.postimg.org/4cazmc05p/satoshi_Bu.png

Unfortunately, the entire ecosystem keeps getting blocked by the chinese mining cartel.

Hopefully LTC shows the benefits of segwit and LN and I at least recover my lost BTC money thanks to it because blocking this in BTC has made me lose money and im sick of it.

Its waste of time trying to explain these paid bug coin supporters..

Why you bug coin supporters don't go to china with the money you earning and eat some dog bbq,

You might be right. But that's not the point. The point is, the 1mb block limit shouldn't exist in the first place. Bitcoin is supposed to scale on chain as much as technology allows and only then move offchain. Probably BU side would agree with 2-4MB blocks, or self adjustable blocks and segwit. What about a compromise instead of forcing 1mb+ segwit ?

billybob is showing speculative crap..
its why he is being ignored and laughed at, even pereira4 gave up on it because no one was being fooled by it.

BU and dynamic implementations have not made any big announcements or deadlines or threats or nuke PoW code.. so any drama of the last 2 years is pretty much all core driven..

Roger Ver have money to burn, or so it seems. Has this been verified or is this pure speculation? The way I see this is Roger will not do something,

if there are not something in it for him. He will support MtGox the one moment and when the house of cards falls down, he will make public

statements to distance him from the damage. This guy is acting like any other person who have their own best interest in mind. { financial or

political }  :(

The Japan law refers to ALL e-currencies (Digital currencies) not only to one :)

Bitcoin is only an e-currency along many others. Before BTC was trendy, it was Liberty Reserve and before that, it was e-gold. After BTC will be gone, other e-currency will be trendy and so on...
So, the law you are talking about is referring to all the virtual currencies and it's saying about a tax for them too. :)

I think its that he's using it as a way to get more publicity and with that more support for BU in general in order to make a ton of money when it it is approved (if something like this occurs) He'll stand to be able to do a lot with the Bitcoin code if he's able to keep the miners on his side.

Maybe he even wants to do this to cause uncertain in the Bitcoin price and see it take a tumble because at the moment if it even gets accepted or if it doesn't he could just be using this as a way to buy a small fortune in Bitcoin and he'll just sell when certainty is brought back into the market.

Pretty conspiracy thinking here, but I highly doubt he cares for scaling and helping to see fees go down. I just don't see something like that being the reason for all of this.

He wants to make people to become dissapointed in Bitcon and start to move to his alts which he has now plenty of. I think he quitted bitcoin long ago like Andressen and Hearn

Because Vermin is dash guy and let'm scale dash as he want and get the fuck out of Bitcoin

But whatever we do we're going to have one base code/ protocol/ sets of rules for all miners to follow, how does switching to BU and mine under BU code work out for being diverse? looks like you don't understand what a decentralized network stands for, as long as you and I and everyone else from any country in the world can run a full node/ start mining like the ones already mining that's called decentralized network of miners.
Whenever you see someone mining while running Core and you can't mine with the same hash power same amount of coins then that's centralized.

You say diverse but how? like any miner mine with their own sets of rules like I mine a block with 2MB size and the whole system validates and you mine a block with 8MB size and the whole system validates? who has cabin fever now?

like 2009-2015
everyone had 1mb rule..

but one pool had variety size blocks, some at 0.25mb. another pool made empty blocks another pool made 0.5mb blocks. and all happily accepted because they were below 1mb limit.

yep even now nodes can have a 2mb limit right now and happily accept blocks at 0.99 and below..

now imagine the network rule was
consensus.h = 8mb
policy.h=random amounts..

pools then see that the majority of "policy.h=random amounts.." is about 2mb.. so pools make blocks that are btween 250bytes-1.99mb
and all are happy because its all still below the 8mb hard limit.

yea some nodes might get their "policy.h=random amounts.." adjusted to 2mb if they were the minority prfering below 2mb.. but its all still below the 8mb limit,

welcome to the logic of dynamics and have a nice day.
PS settings are set by users. not dev-kings,
so welcome to true decentralisation

First of all, he started using dash because Bitcoin mempool was jammed.
Secondly, we're not allowed to use any alt coins?  That makes someone a con man?

You're a brainless pratt.

 

watch your tone, I see you change your avatar and lost your fear

let gmaxwell play with his fiat and monero and stop making bitcoin into his 'centralist experiment' to appease his future bosses at hyperledger.

let DCG go play with zcash and litecoin
let BTCC go play with litecoin

we al know they have lost their desire for bitcoin along time ago