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Just came in like 20 min ago 4/5/2017!  Review is incoming very soon!  Here is a few pics to wet the whistle

4/5/17
At first glance it looks pretty decent.  A little big basically 4U at 6.5 Inches tall.  If you pop the cover off be careful because the edges are sharp and will cut the hell out of you.  Kind of like the old days with those atx cases you would leave your DNA in all the time.  After it running for 6 hours its doing 230mhs out of the box on ETH at 1180 Watts.  Seems quieter even though it is about 70db at a meter away.  Its more of a deep hum instead of a high pitch squeal like the B1.  

It's well packaged like usual.  Open it up and everything is secure.  I wish it had 4 fans on each side but it might be enough.  It boots up like a champ, you might have an issue with HDMI connection, I had to use HDMI to DVI plug on my monitor to see it in POST mode so I could go in and change the power setting.  Once in desktop its in ENGLISH! That's a damn good start considering the pain of trying to load it on the B1.  you can modify the pool and wallet and it will mine like a champ.  I recommend Claymores 9 because it don't take 93 years now to load cards.  It has Teamviewer loaded already withe the code on the side.  Change your PW.  I personally like VNC so I uninstall it and use VNC.  

It's a pretty decent box and a pretty good price if you are fortunate to be able to get one.  I think the big farms are buying them as soon as they come available.

Eliovp is working on some roms so we will test that as well.  All in all, pretty happy with it.

It's basic, does exactly what it says and honestly better than the B1.  

4/7/17
*** WARNING ***
The shipped bios on the first shipment of pandas to me and heliox seem unstable.  Out of 20 i was getting about 5-7  crash within hours of being turned on.  With heliox bios they have been running for 24 hours no crashes.  I think panda is coming out with a release or they already addressed it and new ones have it.  They will send it to me and I will post it on this review for a link to download.  Sorry can not post heliox bios as that is his and he is not free  :P
*** UPDATE ***
They sent me a new bios right away and I am testing it to make sure it is more stable.  Then I will post it.
Confirmed it's a little better rom here is the link it is zipped with the rom and instructions direct from panda in them.  There is no virus attached but if you don't trust me then don't download it.  http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/pandab3bios.zip (http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/pandab3bios.zip)



TON O PANDAS
I'll have some fun tonight!

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/tonopanda.JPG

OPEN BOX
Well packaged as usual

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/panda1.JPG

COVER OFF
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/openpanda.JPG

CARD
Basic card with 1 HDMI port
RX470 4G

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/card.JPG

FAN
fans seem adequate I will put my velometer on it tomorrow
 
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/fans.JPG

BOARD
Looks basic and solid with 8 full slots the cards fit very snug and dont move.

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/board.JPG

DIMENSIONS
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/dim1.JPG
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/dim2.JPG
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/dim3.JPG

INSIDE (Between the fans) DIMENSIONS
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/dim4.JPG

BIRDSEYE VIEW NO CARDS
name says it all

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/panda4.JPG

Memory & Hard Drive

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/memhd.JPG

Motherboard Back

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/mbback.JPG

Case No MB

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/casenomb.JPG

Video Card Front

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/vidcardfront.JPG

Video Card Back

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/vidcardback.JPG

PANDA Broken APART
Panda in pieces.  I'll take board completely out tomorrow.

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/panda.JPG

REAL FREAKIN BUMMER
DAMN sucks we cant put a full size card in it  :(

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/bummer.JPG


SORRY SO DIRTY BUT GETTING THEM UP IN A HURRY
My setup, I plan on putting 4 per shelf but i was busy getting as many as I could up and running

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/IMG_2195.JPG

I Will use this for Pros: (more to come)

Small
Bang for the Buck
minimal connections
1080 Watts x 8 Cards for 230 ETH
Preloaded ENGLISH YAY!
Pretty much as they say out of the box add your wallet and mine

I will use this for cons: (more to come)

If you use a HDMI to HDMI Connection you might skip right past POST
If you have the cover off be careful not to cut yourself
need a pen or stick to turn on as power button is recessed
can't fit full size card in
Can't adjust power because the card has a crappy voltage core.

Awesome! Is that an Rx470 with a 6+1 phase VRM?

okay  I see the heat sink   for the vrm and the  gpu chip

looks like

 fans  go across the heatsink fins in this manner correct?
and what are the fans make and model please.
   



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Ya give me a few I just got them and getting them unboxed and stuff to start printing.  I'll post a crap ton of pics real soon.

you will be happy to know they loaded ENGLISH on these though =)

subscribed
 ;D ;) :D

fans posted Phil 

Those are like the leaked photos I saw -- I'm sure this will be answered in time but how long is it -- what are dimensions?

Well on second glance, it looks like they eliminated the 4th fan that blows air across CPU in final design.

so jelly

spec link

http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/part-numbers/DC-Axial-Fans/4715KL-04W-B59-E00/5268

they appear to be 130 cf. max  and  maybe 12 watts max.  as there are .74 amp and 1 amp specs.

that is 9 to 12 watts a fan speed = 3600 rpm max and 130 cfm max



this does 133 cfm at 3000 rpm and maybe a little quieter

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-DFS123812H-3000-Ultra-Kaze-120mm/dp/B001JKNMBE

it uses .6 amp max = 7.2 watts

http://www.scythe-eu.com/en/products/fans/ultra-kaze-120.html

Pretty low static pressure on them .44

yep  means the scythe should work   use less power move more air and sound quieter.

note that is for a guy with one or 2 of them.

if I had 28 pandas I would want a faster fan with a little more balls.  maybe a delta



https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835706028&cm_re=delta_120mm-_-35-706-028-_-Product

Agreed there, depending on cooling, may need to supplement with external fans as an option to replacing

sell me one to play with please :D

Okay, some more info

As already known, they're 470's 4G.

They ship them with already modified roms (Which are horrible, really, i have no idea what they were thinking but wtf..?)

So they copied the 1500 strap all the way up to 2000 and clocked it at 2050, which is ok, no problem there, everyone does this.

What bothers me is that they tried to set memory voltage, which makes no sense because it just doesn't work and thought it would be a good idea to skip DPM0 (300Mh 'core') and just overwrite it with (1135Mh)  ::) , i honestly have no idea why...

Anywho, obviously i changed all of that, wrote a custom strap, added voltage offset and guess what...

Already got speed (ETH) up by 1MH and power down, obviously not finished with it yet (pretty sure i'll get them over 30).  ;)

Here's a screeny, running their windows for testing purposes, only flashed 1 GPU to see the difference :) (GPU5)

http://deklinge.be/pandab3winclay.png

Greetings!

29 and change is pretty good.

nice work.

Forgot to mention, core clock 1140  ;)

Wow, that hashrate is great. I'd like to construct one of these with R9 NANO cards, SOMEHOW,SOMEWAY. Man, if all those were R9s, you would destroy Zcash with that military surplus warpile of pandas you have.

Sorry guys I did not get the amount I wanted so they are not for sale.

hey I have an idea here..


think this would fit?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500414

I can get   490 sols using  140 watts

that  mobo  would be unreal with  8 of these nvidia pushing  3900 sols



if I lower clocks I can do  414  using 126 watts.    one card and the entire rig.

which means maybe 105 watts for the mining of zec.



Man  I would love to get that mobo.  load it with nvidia's and mine zec.

Go for it, if you have the money why not. I'm waiting til the new AMDs come

4K plus of cards hehe that bastard would run like hell though

Yeah I am getting 516h and 172 watt per card.

It would be very nice if it worked

nice but still to expensive , i can build a rig of 480s same hash rate for 1600 six cards including psu and risers and i can easily
sell the cards back since i have the original boxes and waranties not sure what the big deal is on these pandas unless you have money to burn I guess

If you're not going for super-high airflow, NMB is a very good choice for fans - at least comparable on reliability to Delta (though not up to the ancient Rotron metal-frame fans).

 I have a *TON* of their 80mm and 92mm models that have spent literally decades in server cases with very few issues and VERY long lifetimes.



 I would be very worried about cooling on ANY standard dual-width card in a Panda - seems like it has very little room for airflow if there is more than a heatsink to push air through.

 If any standard card would fit though, it would be the Gigabyte ITX model of the 1070 (or for a LOT of money you could go with some of the 1-slot-wide AMD workstation-version of the RX series but why bother).

 
 The "big deal" on the Pandas is twofold - they are smaller than a riser-based multicard rig by a LOT unless you get really fancy on modding a rack-mount case (and seem to be a bit smaller even than THOSE setups due to being a lot shorter in length), and they are "don't have to do it yourself" for those that are not capable of building their own rigs.
 They're more like buying an ASIC rig - almost plug and play.

Awesome thread...thanks for the info and reviews chaps!

@dagarair...If you get a chance please take a close up pic of the hard drive.

nice first I want to see that if you can get the same hashrate with your 6 cards comparing to the panda with 8 cards. Just not possible ;) And if you try to build a proper setup with 8 gpus by urself, I'm pretty sure that you will be at the same amount like you have to pay for a panda

I'm not saying i would build an 8gpu rig i can buy six cards at $225 a pop mb and PSU and risers and thats only $1600-1700 or so , assuming i splurge on high end components.  I'm getting free shipping so that 2400 price+shipping per panda is well over
the price even if i grabbed an extra 2 more cards to tack on to the next rig.  I get longer warranties on actual cards and actual computer parts that have value, not this overpriced wana be asic.

I'm good on the panda madness.

K

You images in the first posts do not work

must be on your end  they are woking on my pc's

 I have optimum of cablevision in NJ,USA

I don't see them as well

It looks like pictures that were previously loading yesterday for me, don't load today.

If I try to hit URL directly as well as the new photos, not working either.

Cool post. Appreciate the updates on this as I've got one coming in the mail soon. How many do you have?

1) Can I ask what you think about the noise output? Depending on where you have it, any plans on doing some kind of soundproofing?

2) Do you mind posting how much this one B3 unit manages to mine after 24 hours at your pool (and which pool you recommend)?

Keep up the good work :)

Ps. I dont see pictures either.

Sorry guys my damn server down.  Stupid construction cut the FIOS Fiber line.  They are outside trying to fix the fooker.

any chance you are selling any of those pandas mate?

Looking at these photos, its shorter width wise than the B1 -- 19.5" Wide x 6.5" High x 11" Deep

Someone would have to build a custom case or make an open air frame to turn one of these into a system that will support regular cards. I see that happening with these long term as people replace GPU's. The question will be how well the board is built and how long it will last.

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I could of swore they sounded quieter but numbers dont lie...  It's more of a deep hum and not a squeal though

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/sound.JPG



230 ETH at this Wattage.  Heliox is working on mods and i'll post or he will as they come available.

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/watts.JPG

79db is quieter than my damn A4's but more noisy than my 7 GPU rigs

the proper distance to measure is 1 meter..

 I would think it is  75db  which means it is as loud as the older model b1  but a deeper pitch.

With fans at 3600rpm  it is a farm model not a tv den model.

1181  watts for 230 eth  was close to the b1 model

what is the psu?

im testing on the 1300 EVGA Gold because 120V watt meter but I actually use their great wall 1600 240V only units

at a meter away it is 70db

then it is a bit softer most likely a better pitch


 meter  then the b1   let me look at that thread

yeah here is 1 meter for the b1  70.6



https://i.imgur.com/hoT5HGi.jpg

yeah exactly.  Much deeper pitch, does not sound like your wife yelling at you  :P

@bitawm: Sorry bro I actually did not get enough to fill up what I wanted to fill.

@Radientgurkin: noise is not bad its a hum not high pitch and yeah I bought a house and soundproofing a corner room with solid door 6000 cfm of airflow and this

Sound killing sheetrock
https://www.lowes.com/pd/QuietRock-Common-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Actual-0-5-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Drywall-Panel/3069747

no stress bruzz, hope you ROI fast

*** WARNING ***

The shipped bios on the first shipment of pandas to me and heliox seem unstable.  Out of 20 i was getting about 5-7  crash within hours of being turned on.  With heliox bios they have been running for 24 hours no crashes.  I think panda is coming out with a release or they already addressed it and new ones have it.  They will send it to me and I will post it on this review for a link to download.  Sorry can not post heliox bios as that is his and he is not free  :P  well he is a little slutty, but not totally.  8)

Thanks for this update -- I wonder if there will be more B3+ available for order at a future date or if they are going to change the design again.

I do like this new design a lot better than the B1, Even with the loss of Density the B1 had, its a pretty clean setup.

Their response they sent me a bios I will add a link in a few on page 1.  Kudos for addressing it fast

Hi,
Thanks for you support , and because you are the first one in the list , there is a little problem with your miner .
You need to reset the miner by yourself , please check as the attachment of firmware, follow the steps we write. Sorry for any inconvenience.
If you don;t know how to do this, please contact me via whatsapp Or tell us your Teamviewer account and we will set for you .

*** UPDATE ***
They sent me a new bios right away and I am testing it to make sure it is more stable.  Then I will post it.
Confirmed it's a little better rom here is the link it is zipped with the rom and instructions direct from panda in them.  There is no virus attached but if you don't trust me then don't download it.  http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/pandab3bios.zip (http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/pandab3bios.zip)

Thanks buddy. Hopefully my 5 in the next batch will already have the new Bios.

yeah they said the first few had it and since I got them first I assume not many were toasted with it.  other than that, I just woke up and its still running so that's a plus hehe

if only that panda motherboard is for sale somewhere....

That would be sweet.

What cards would you use with it tho? No risers right?

No risers needed -- I would use a full card RX470 on an open cage rig design.

Run Linux like smOS on a usb3 thumdrive or msata ssd.

Many possibilities here for GPUs since its full 16x slot with nice spacing in between cards for airflow.

Wouldn't the cards be too close to each other? Do we know the exact spacing?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1864866.msg18542777#msg18542777 PANDA GROUP BUY $30 OFF

I will take a board out and slam 8 8GB 470's in it and see what happens  :P

would be nice if it did  nvidia 1070's

thnx for fixing the pictures :)

Looks pretty good that panda miner, you made a good purchase  :)

Probably going to use this unit to build an open frame 8 card for giggles.  I'll let you know!


Memory & Hard Drive
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/memhd.JPG


Motherboard Back
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/mbback.JPG

Case No MB
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/casenomb.JPG

Video Card Front
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/vidcardfront.JPG

Video Card Back
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/vidcardback.JPG

I could see those mobos  running great rigs.

Use liquid cooling man o man what a beast

I am starting to suspect they need more ventilation.  I wish they went with 4 fans on each side.  I think they will have issues in a hot environment like mine in Texas not cooled anyway.  I have major ventilation but that might not be enough.  I will get my velometer on it tomorrow and test against a b1.  For not they seem k and its has been about 85 but my fear is the 95+ days.

Thanks for offering all these updates  :)

You showed the output noise was 79 db, can you please say what the output noise is at approx 1 meter distance?

That's an interesting observation because a photo I saw of what was identified as a pre-production design, showed 4 fans across while the production design had been cut down to 3.

he did it is 70db with a deeper pitch then the panda 1

it is not a living room miner.

based on my google of the included fans  the scythe is a bit quieter then the stock and should move a little more air.
 

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-DFS123812H-3000-Ultra-Kaze-120mm/dp/B001JKNMBE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492435572

these are still fairly loud but they would be okay in a spare bedroom or a garage.

I think they are better then the stock ones for cooling  note    i think not I know

if stronger louder fans are needed this

https://www.amazon.com/PartsCollection-Delta-Strong-Cooling-200CFM/dp/B0062WSISG/ref=sr_1_12?

Where to buy these card rx 470??

you cant.  they come in the panda

and the mobo is also custom.

I would love to get a mobo from them.

They wont sell it I tried.  I WILL GET ONE THOUGH!

well you have 28 of them.

pulling 1 and putting the 8 gpus aside as spares for the other 27 pandas make sense.

you could put  nvidia 1070's  should get you to 4500h with about 1200 watts used.

you would know you have an upgrade path for the gear.

 Which will be similar loudness PER FAN to the Antminer S5/S7/S9 fans, same design and RPM level if not the same exact fan model.

there is also a GIGABYTE GTX 1070 MINI ITX OC Card, which will 4 sure suit into the chasis of B+ :) you just need proper airflow to keep em cool

how many zotac or gigabyte 1070s can we fit? more than 4? how thin are they and how thin are the panda 470s?

Nowhere near that sound.  This is 70db and like a deep sound

Which Speed do you get on dual mining? Dcr

Looking for an estimates ZEC sols/s?

Would like to know what my output on other coins is like incase ETH mining becomes unprofitable for some reason

So I guess estimated XMR returns as well

if you pull the board you could add these 1070's

they are 1 slot!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11271/galax-and-kfa2-list-geforce-gtx-1070-katana-a-singleslot-geforce-gtx-1070


http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11271/geforce_gtx_1707_katana_678_678x452.jpg



if they do 440h each  that would be  3500h

or alternate them with 1080ti

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1330809-REG/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_ti.html/?

https://www.msi.com/asset/resize/image/global/product/product_10_20170324114957_58d497656ede0.png62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/1024.png



so  8 cards

1070 + 1080ti + 1070 + 1080ti + 1070 + 1080ti + 1070 + 1080ti

440h +  700h + 440h + 700h   + 440h + 700h   + 440 h + 700h  = 4560h  for zec at 1400 watts

Which Speed do you get on dual mining? like DCR

Thanks for taking the time to post all of this. Quick question, aside from a PSU what else do you need that is not included to operate these rigs?

Would it be better for panda to sell just the system without the GPU and we add ourselves?

it would cost less to ship, thats for sure but they would have to greatly increase the cost of their boards to make reasonable profit on them. So you'd see something like $500+ with CPU/heatsink included to be profitable and make it worthwhile.

I'd probably pay $400-500 for a custom board like that but not many would.

Maybe we as a community put together something to show interest?

You would think they would make more profit by just selling the boards only. You could probably mass produce them and they are lightweight and easy to ship. We might just be giving them a million dollar idea.  ;D

I heard at least one or two people say they don't wanna dual mine on the pandas because it may shorten the lifespan of the gpus

For us yes  for them no ;D

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@Truthchanter I agree with them

Dual mining with a panda is too risky

Running ETH full speed with the MX is also not advisable since these chips were designed for notebooks etc.
At best 28Mhs per card without dual mining seems stable.
ZEC and XMR at full speed looks OK.

As long as you do not overclock or even undervolt, the power consumption will not be higher.

I disagree but maybe there are some settings that  would work okay.

my model 1 could dual mine and not over heat but I had stock bios. My cards did 28mh I could do some dcr and drop to 26.5 mh with 600h for the dcr.

I used claymore which allowed for -ethi   and -dcri

 I would do 5 and 40 but i mostly ran zec .  as it used less power.

Are you sure the B3+ is using MX cards? They look a lot bigger than other MX cards and 2-3x as big as Panda B1 model's cards.

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You guys who think we shouldn't be dual mining (and some of you dont even want to run on full speed) do you have any information or data to backup the dangers of doing this?

Seems you'd need quite concrete info to forgo dual mining DCR or something else when it's adding ~20-25% more profit.

running a gpu flat out shouldnt hurt it. ive mined btc back in the day and did folding at home for years, so i pushed cards pretty hard. that being said i dual mine my cards. and i think most peoples problems when dual mining are card settings (like flashing new straps, OCing too much, overvolting them), cooling or power related.

full disclosure.. i killed a msi 470 gaming x last week and it was dual mining at the time. cant say that directly killed it as my 4 other cards dual mine fine. and those cards are much older than the msi 470.

the b3 panda gpus..  those look like standard short (itx sized) computer 470 pcie cards. just with custom heatsinks.

I've killed 5 RX 470's over the past 8 months and all of them were running VERY conservative clocks/volts, were adequately cooled, and were never dual mined with. Some cards just die, life of a miner.

What do you guys think of the stock B3+ PSU?

good enough? or buy something else?

Not really sure how important the PSU is in rigs like these.

Did you manage to exchange them under the warranty?

Wondering on the thoughts on their PSU as well.

Yes thankfully. And since I originally posted this, two more have left for the silicon afterlife :)

I tried that.  They will not sell the board when they are selling out of pandas every time.  =*(

You can dual mine I just don't because I am out of power and can't afford to turn that on.  I'll get you some watt testing on it later today.  I would do DCRI like 16 I think.  That dont effect ETH and mines DCR.

I ahve a ton of them and the PS seems pretty decent.  I would not hesitate to buy them if I were you all.  240V ONLY POWER SUPPLY be mindful of that.

I also have a bunch of there PSU together with the B1 miner. All are running totaly okay since january now.

What about efficiency?

Have you guys tried plugging your Panda's into a brand name high rated PSU and compared the power usage?

they are 83 or 85% at best.

I compared my panda psu to this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-TOKAMAK-1500W-Full-Modular-Power-Supply-80-PLUS-TITANIUM-Certified-/172455843785?

watts were 80 different.  but the psu costs more.  80 watts is 2 kwatts a day about 20 cents  so in a year it is 73 dollars  I can get the titanium for 250 usd  on sale that is a lot more then the  cheap oem. it would take 2 years or more to pay for itself

there is a photo of a burnt oem psu.

Ya but it looked like he had it in a heat box with the picture I saw.  Not standing up for the PSU, its not an EVGA or anything but it is decent for the $ for sure.

they are 83 or 85% at best.

I compared my panda psu to this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-TOKAMAK-1500W-Full-Modular-Power-Supply-80-PLUS-TITANIUM-Certified-/172455843785?

watts were 80 different.  but the psu costs more.  80 watts is 2 kwatts a day about 20 cents  so in a year it is 73 dollars  I can get the titanium for 250 usd  on sale that is a lot more then the  cheap oem. it would take 2 years or more to pay for itself

there is a photo of a burnt oem psu.
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Ya but it looked like he had it in a heat box with the picture I saw.  Not standing up for the PSU, its not an EVGA or anything but it is decent for the $ for sure.
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What PSU would you guys recommend in place of the PSU panda offers for better performance / similar price?

none at smiliar price there is nothing out there that inexpensive.  Best evga 1600

2000 $ for the box pandaminer ???

 Gigabyte ITX 1070 is a standard dual-width card, it's just SHORT (7" or so vs 10" more or less for most other cards).
 I've got 3 of them, and like them for my 3'd slot since most motherboards insist on crowding the 2'nd and 3'd slot close together.
 I'm amazed nobody has any RX series boards like them - I'd think Gigabyte would have done a RX 470 or 480 in the same form factor by now (TDP is very close on the RX 480 vs the GTX 1070).

 The Zotac is more like 9" - it's shorter but only by a little compared to most other cards of it's class.

I make both open air and active cooled 1070 rigs with zotac mini 1070s. 

The rear of the card fully exposes the heat sink; making it perfect for using with active cooling.  They are 8.2" long; shorter than most other cards with a comparable heatsink.

evga 1600 t2
evga 1600 p2
evga 1600 g2

evga 1300 g2   should be good

rosewill tokamak  I got for 250 usd  with bucks on eBay I rate it just under the evga 1600 t2 in quality


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-TOKAMAK-1500W-Full-Modular-Power-Supply-80-PLUS-TITANIUM-Certified-/172455843785?hash=item28272b57c9:g:aMIAAOSwLOtYXGf2

I have owned all of the above and the oem that comes with this is not as good as any of the above.

but it is around 90-100 once you count the shipping

So it may be worth using .

or you can go the finksy route or optimizer route with server psu's

Dont forget that most of these high end PSUs have remarkeable RMA and warranty plans -- ie. EVGA 10-year warranty.

Although I do use custom server PSUs & PICOs for simplicity and deployment, I am a happy user of EVGA 1000-G2, 1300-G2 and 1600-G2 - very reliable and top notch quality.

All I use is EVGA 1300.  It is a rock solid PS plus 10 year freaking warranty is unbelievable.  I'm sure there are others that are great out there but 10 years OMG.  Oh yeah and OMG ETH =)

anyone familiar with any other pandaminer reviews that have since popped up?

G00d question, has anyone else received any?

as far as I know you are the only one from this forum.

most of us simply were told sold out sorry.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1890700.new#new

9 left people

Apparently mine have just shipped from the March 23 batch but no tracking number yet.

usaually it takes around 7-10 days to arrive (at least it was like that with the B1 Panda). For me it sound more and more like a scam here.

Have you received your tracking number yet?

@bigassboy...Not yet mate.

Are you guys able to see your order status on the panda miner site?
I'm trying to see mine its giving me a blank page.

I can see  my order.

http://prntscr.com/f4wu9m

Yes I can see my order. It says "paid" and "unshipped" even though I was told via email it has shipped.

that is weird perhaps you should email them and ask for the tracking code.

LOL....If only life was so easy  ;D

Any updates with confirmed tracking info and/or deliveries completed?

I'm about to complete payment for my Panda's and would be nice to hear everything is still good in panda land before then

No order received.
No reply with tracking number.

When did you pay deposit? Are they still in contact with you and what are they saying?

As for my friends and me, we paid yesterday after receiving the email notification and according to Panda, they will ship next week. Our orders are updated and shown as "paid and unship"

My orders are updated now.. all paid and unship.
Expected to ship next week.

I find it very weird that no one has yet to get delivery of the Panda from batch #2 onwards. If i'm not mistaken batch #2 (march 28) up for pre sale is 500 units, batch #3 (april 17) is 1000 units, batch #4 (april 28) is 500 units and the latest batch #5 (may 17th) is 1000 units, in total panda would have received 500+1000+500 = 2000 units in full payment and 1000 units in 50% deposit, that's amounting to around 5.06m not including shipping (assumed they sold out batch #5 as well) and they mentioned on their website shipping will be between 20-25th may for Batch #3 after BTC has been paid and received for the #5 batch as well. I might be making a mistake or just paranoid assuming all this, but I can't help but wonder....

I got my pandaminer that I won just today if its any help

Post some pictures and feedback for us..  ;D ;D

WOOHOO.
G-string review coming soon on Youtube!?!?

FWIW..Still have not received my 5 Pandas ordered on March 23.
Lets hope I can win a prize soon everyone!!!  ;D

You've mentioned a few times that you haven't received your Panda's but you haven't given any details yet.

What are they saying to you? Do you have a tracking number? Have you paid in full? Do you live on a remote mountain peak in the alps?

Yes you are mistaken.
It was March 23, not March 28...lol.

Member Dagarair is the only one to receive B3 Pandas (28) and was nice enough to post a review for us all.

Yes I apparently I live on Everest. No reply to my emails.
Can you make them reply for me??

Referring to the profitability of ETH mining with panda miner b3 plus https://www.pandaminer.com/default/product_detail?id=7 (https://www.pandaminer.com/default/product_detail?id=7) described as capable of 237MH/s for ETH, i used this calculator http://www.mycryptobuddy.com/EthereumMiningCalculator (http://www.mycryptobuddy.com/EthereumMiningCalculator) but i wonder about the change in difficulty, is it really like this calculator shows? What happens in real world mining?

https://etherscan.io/chart/difficulty

You can see the difficulty rising fast.

When is the last time they replied and what did they say? Have you paid in full?

Given that people are giving more money to Panda all the time, it's nice to give as much complete information as possible in case there is anything wrong in panda land. Especially with another round of sales coming up in a few days.

They replied to 2 of my e-mails 2 days ago, within 24 hours.
I did however sent an e-mail few days back with no response, this time i put the subject with the orders id and got a reply faster, try that..

This user must be a troll, see this:

"Thanks buddy. Hopefully my 5 in the next batch will already have the new Bios." He said this on April 08 of 2017, next batch of this date was on April 28, so he is just a troll.

http://prntscr.com/f7m4i3
http://prntscr.com/f7m4i3

Yes paid in full. 50% deposit on March 23...remainder paid April 21st.
Still have not received miners.
No tracking available!!

https://i.imgur.com/4xCH558.jpg


The only troll in this thread is YOU Marcos5872
Welcome to my ignore list :)

Looks like we're screwed, I have 5 units already paid for.

So far 28 miners to one guy.

Does anyone Else on this site have a batch 3 rx470 model?

If so photo's please.

I just checked my Panda account and it has been changed to "already delivery" so this is a good sign.
Before it always showed "unshipped" even though they told me they shipped them.
 

So, change to delivered, but are them in your hands or some familiar or PObox?

i was about to pull the trigger on these but seeing how they can't even manage their shipments i think i'll hold..

and Eliovp has his.  It's been forever though the second and third batch should of been delivered.

How are the running mate? No problems with them so far?
Happy with them overall?

I'm in Texas, so heat is a factor for these 3 fan units.  You all should be getting 5 fan ones and that should be hella better in the air flow department.  It was 90F yesterday and they went from 238 to about 190-200 because they were burning up.  HOPEFULLY you all get the 5 fan models.  I'll post a picture of that when I get home from out of town of those.  I have one of those as well.

250Mh+ Stable as a rock :)

Greetings!

@dagarair

With that number of Pandas you will overcome NSA in computing power!  :)

What's the name / model of the motherboard?

Its custom MB

Update: Pandas have landed at the hosting company.
They were actually delivered on Friday but I could not confirm this as I didn't get a Fedex tracking number until Today!

They should be online next week. I'll get the guys to take some pics for me when they have them up and running.

Thank you

First great review I remember reading this and it drove me to buy the pandaminer however the pandaminer I have is much different than yours

If you glance at my video on my pandaminer review you can see how different my pandaminer is

https://youtu.be/sefJNg8Bv5I


I also just received another pandaminer, which appears to match your newer ones with the 3x fan?
https://i.imgur.com/7esHhAS.jpg


Did you have any issues with your pandas not recognizing all GPU's, is the pandaminer in my video not a b3+? the distributor told me that it was the new design of the b3+ . . but the models shipping currently reflect your latest models. He got this in Japan so i'm not sure if the model I received is for one of the future batches?

I'm at a loss here and dealing with issues on both miners out of the box, pandaminer hasn't replied to my emails in days. . any help would be appreciated

That's a Gen 1 B3

here are the new ones.  Yes I have one =P

http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/5fan.JPG
http://zeus.iron-vault.com/bct/5fan1.JPG

On your gen 1 asm = ?
Dcri = ?

You're running windows or smOS or pandamOS ?

Thanks for the picture I have either an even newer version than your gen 2 or a variation of it. It's similar different fan covers though, it's 4 fans in 5 fans out

Awaiting on ElioVP to produce a new Panda OS image that works with the modified motherboard / graphics driver.

Who is running oem panda PSU with oem cable

Also anyone running that on 240v vs 220v?

<--- minus OEM cable since its not usa plug

You have any issues of the cards crashing once mining begins?

nope. You actually have a 240V and not the inverter going?  If so maybe pop off all the cards but 1 and start booting 1 at a time and see if it works.

http://imgur.com/qsorcGr

Yeah I stopped using after getting mixed results with the first panda before the drivers decided to upgrade themselves, I only used the inverter to test the second one and it seemed to pretty much be working after replugging every connection, 240v finished today and it wants to be the biggest pain in my ass like usual

it's recognizing all of the cards, and sometimes they mine for 0-1 minute then one or more start to 0.000 and then claymore goes to reboot and freezes  . .

disable that gpu as soon as mining starts and see if it keeps going.  You just might have a weak gpu.

I highly recommend ditching the crappy pirated Windows 10 they supply with the unit and installing EthOS, or PandaOS in its place.

Wow they couldn't even bother to put all four screws in for the fans on the top Panda miner?

W0W!! Is that an Rx470 with a 6+1 phase VRM?

Can we install linux (EthOs) on panda? anyone tried??

Yes, I have 20 x Pandaminers running EthOS 1.2.2 right now :)

Just remember, at the end of the day they are 'just a PC in a special form factor box'..

Anyone know when the next group sale for Panda Miner is?

I would like to purchase a few, but it seems like I missed the cutoff this time.

They can run EthOS.

wow great! cant wait to install ethos on my panda. they said start shipping on 22 june

we run it on SSD or sata HDD?

You can even run it on USB.

so we can purchase USA power cables and use these PSU's?