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Also be warned that the "PR" for MPEx is a foul mouthed racist who frequently lies in vain attempts to misdirect the discussion.

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WOW, just WOW. Sooo ignorant.

Unfortunately Erik decided to go on the defensive for MPEx and attempt to explain how its perfectly fine to use racial slurs in a derogatory fashion.

SDice is now permanently blacklisted from my small service.

I appreciate that I'm probably going to get flak from the people out there who are obsessed with their own ideologues of how people should behave but they piss me off so:
 
Saying stuff like this is pretty stupid but if we were to go after morons who said this sort of thing about other people without thinking we'd all be guilty. I also find it pretty amusing how offensive nigger is supposed to be yet the word 'fag' now seems okay, even south park had a whole fucking episode on the thing. I'm throwing out the tired old saying of not judging people by what they say but by what they do, it's nice to know there's still hypocritical white knights I can hate against even on here.

I've seen a post once where someone got banned off World of Warcraft for saying the word 'Breast' so it just goes to show you that people out there can be offended by anything.

If and when I fuck up (and I do regularly) I hope people call me on my bullshit and set me straight.
This is just me though, everyone will have their own thoughts on this.


Actually Trey and Matt caught a lot of flack over that episode, for a good comparison look @  the episode when Randy Marsh calls our N***** on wheel of fortune. What Stan said to token really hit the spot imho.

N***** has always been used as a derogatory reference to label a race, having some little white kid from the suburbs pronounce they dont find it offensive because of X is little comfort to those that have suffered generations racism first hand.


Making a speech / long winded blog is something "you do".


Exactly what hypocrisy are you referring to ?


Are you seriously suggesting that racism is even in the same ballpark as the word "breast" ?

Yes, yes I am, the same way that people get offended over someone saying the word 'fuck' or 'bitch' or any other number of 'insults' I'm getting completely desensitised to and bored of over the years, there's far worse things that someone can say about another person without even using a slur or swearword, it all just depends on how you use it.

Well, thanks for being direct at least.
You are quite ignorant and as a result racially insensitive.

How's your campaign coming along, shillboy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186041.msg2038965#msg2038965)?

I see MPOO-ER is replying again.

Newbies please be careful of this individual, he has a well deserved reputation for giving bad advice to newbies in transparent attempt to increase his forum presence. Unfortunately MrPOO-ER is just an extremely angry troll upset that the world does not care for him or his opinions.

Best you simply put him on ignore ;) or if you find angry pseudo intellectuals amusing then feed that troll, he has unlimited potential for butt hurt.

Dun dun, caught lying for profit, makes baseless claims about me. Just like...you know...pretty much every other scammer in the history of Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695).

More lies, keep it up MrPOO-ER and I'll get you banned for blatant lies and spreading false information.

Or show everyone here that your not a liar and offer some proof - queue sooky replies with 0 content.

You'll get me banned? Listen here sparky, the meds! Don't forget the meds.

Scammor.

The detractor to OP's comment does not realize that being desensitized is exactly the problem.  You say these things don't effect you, and therefore should not effect others.  This is called privilege.  It is quite likely you were born in a position of power, and have had very little chance to experience being the victim.  Should we ban certain types of speech?  Nah..  but should people say something about it?  Of course!  Keep it up.  Take back the internet from trolls.

I doubt it effects any niggers as they all probably to busy skull fucking Goyim chicks anyway ;D 

I guess this is coming right along.

stop wasting time over a silly word. you guys really wanna make a difference, use your time to go out and help ppl who actually need it and care. yall a bunch of sissys (or is that a bad word too lol), just wanna sit around and complain instead of doing real stuff. bohooo he used a word, lets sit argue about it on the internet instead of being productive ppl. ye you all win!

Again, privilege.

"Privilege" is what the consciously lazy call other people's merit, skill and accomplishment. Get off your fat ass, do something useful and forget about all the deep envy over other people's success. You can have a little piece of it too, one day, maybe. It won't be as big as some other guy's, it certainly won't be as big as your entitled delusional ego represents it "should be", but in any event it will be a lot more than the dark depressive nothingness you have now.

Off to work. It macht frei. Preferably start of your own volition and before CasinoBit has to sick his German Shepherd on you.

No, it is being oblivious to the things that happen to those discriminated against.  
Why do you find it worthwhile to argue that we should have no sensitivity to people?  It doesn't hurt you.  It doesn't infringe on your freedom.  It's just understanding where a person is coming from and attempting to empathize with that.

mem you're retarded and you should be ashamed.
What's the connection between his political views and the exhange?
He thinks whatever he wants, that's his position and you shouldn't make a big deal out of it.
Besides it seems that you stopped reading his conversation after he said the word "nigger", if you read the rest you can see that he explains himself.
In anyway you're an idiot, there's a difference between his business and his own thoughts.

Im glad to see we do have voices of reason in bitcointalk.org.

ignorance....the cancer that just keeps on giving....

All we can do is raise awareness :|

That was a whole load of bull. Practically speaking, if somebody steps on a rake that's great: he gets to learn firsthand why not to step on rakes. No empathizing needed. If that somebody doesn't step on a rake that's also great. So no, I have no idea where you're coming from, other than the obvious "guy with no skills and no ability trying to invent something to do that doesn't take work".


Well, libertards are usually all for political freedom until somebody happens to not drink their koolaid. Then it's suddenly libertard fascism full bore. I should be mindful of old ladies' psychotic reactions to pets and old ladies don't need to be mindful of the perfectly legitimate and vastly common pet keeping behavior of the human race. Which behavior gave us milk and eggs and horseback travel not to mention everything else.

What have psychotic old ladies done for us?

MPOE why do you keep attacking me?  Try to use logic and ideas rather than making up things about my lifestyle.

We're not talking about a person unintentionally causing their self harm.  This is about a person or group taking something from another person or group.  When a society normalizes or trivializes any such event, it encourages it to worsen.  Look at year by year statistics of sexual assault in the military.

As to learning, what has the victim learned?  Someone is discriminated against or assaulted, what have they learned?  Fear?  That they are to blame?  "Hey you shouldn't have been there.  Should have defended yourself.  Shouldn't have worn that!"  Concentrating on the victim mostly just causes them to take an unwarranted share of the blame.

Words can't define themselves. There is a big difference between revisionism, and reclaiming & rebranding. Privelige, as per my understanding of the word, refers to the meritless property unrelated to skill that all individuals come to the table ov life with initially. The type and degree of privelige one has is based only on peer's preconcieved ideas of an individual's cultural or group traits, and expectations thereof.
To get a fair judgement of someone's ideology, vocabulary must be considered but content and motivations are not overlookable.

There is no such thing as "meritless" property. Further, the presumption that you'd be in a position to judge the "merit" of others' property is unjustifiable intellectually and offensive politically.

What's next, "meritless" Bitcoin? He who has the key has the Bitcoin, that's the whole story. This is what property means, it is its own merit.


One can never and may never be judged by recourse to a group. This is essentially what racism is, judging one individual by recourse to a group.

the stupidity of you monkeys never ceases to amaze me.

nigger is an insult.
so is fag.
so is bitch.
so is cunt.

you can choose to care or you can choose not too, but realize it makes no difference either way.

/enlightened

smoke some more crack you pedantic twat.


racism is an implied sense of inferiority. nothing less, nothing more.

Very valid point! Meritless property is an oxymoron. Unearned credit gets the idea across more clearly. Thx for pointing that out. I was less refering to owned posessions and more to traits.
Racism is a system that promotes unfounded gaps in privelige without always intending to. Much of it comes directly from racism- however there are many more types of traits that can cut someone off from the privelige of trust that are not related to race. We all have some sort of advantage in the eyes of some, of course it works the other way around too with disadvantages.
Im not condemning the system of privelige wholesale - good judgement of character based on educated assessments and sound values are great. I'm saying many of the factors that go into it are results of flawed thinking- like racism or bigotry.
Back to the topic, Its easy to overlook what may very well be neat ideas when youre yelling at someone for using cursewords. Identifying implicit racism is more prodictive than finding explitives.

too many derptards not enough shotguns!

Shocking

I find it highly likely that a person who would say this is white, straight, and male.  Happens to be my situation too.  I didn't think much of the privilege argument until I started looking.  It seems like the craziest thing to say, so rude, "You think I'm privileged?  I don't get into good schools because of the color of my skin."  And so on.  It wasn't until I started listening to people coming from that side of things that I realized that not only was there something to it, it is system wide.  There is advantage to demonizing whole groups of people.  Do you not see that?  or do you think it's a good thing?

The fact that you are my intellectual inferior requires little intimation. You make it obvious. This has little to do with your race.


So now we're back to the topic of you making recommendations to me, while overlooking the fact that I'm by far the only pro PR on this forum and you have no credentials. Where do you get off, exactly?


Schools have absolutely nothing to do with it. Fundamentally all "privilege" talk can be reduced without remainder to Chris Rock's part in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (Chaka Luther King). Whenever someone uses that word in any other way than to make fun of how utterly stupid it is, they're basically speaking of themselves, giving proof of how wilfully stupid, wilfully lazy or wilfully stupid and lazy they are.


I am saying that it is exactly how things should work. Everyone thinks he personally is worth two shits. Let him prove that rather than whine and solicit "empathy". The onus is on him.

Being a person is something you earn, not something you're born into.

Could you please define what "wilfully stupid, wilfully lazy or wilfully stupid and lazy" means?
I don't understand the culture reference, if you want to explain...

That's a new one, but let's try.

Suppose Moe sees a girl he likes in the street. Being a little weird Moe starts following her. She goes to the gym, wherein some muscular dude picks her up and then later that day Moe sees her giving him superb head in the park.

Suppose the world were really flat and unidimensional, and it were a point of fact that the only reason for all this was exactly the dude being muscular and Moe being...well...you know.

Being stupid is missing this point.

Being wilfully stupid is catching on to the muscular point, but also being aware that muscle takes work-out and so pretending to have missed the point.

Being wilfully lazy is catching on to the muscular point, but pretending that no work-out is necessary.

Being wilfully stupid and lazy is catching on to the muscular point, but also being aware that muscle takes work-out so pretending like chicks "shouldn't" dig muscular guys and muscles "shouldn't" take working out, and further pretending that "an ideal world" would work so that "everyone" gets chicks and abs just because they exist, and that "everyone" "should" be striving for the enactment of such a retarded "ideal" and so forth.

I know you're really tempted to argue your way out of this, but really, there is no way out: as long as you are seriously preoccupied with "privilege" you are either deliberately stupid, deliberately lazy or both.

MPOE-PR

That was the best post I have ever read. 

LOL, it's not everyday you witness a person supposedly retained to provide public relations services engaged in a full throated (if convoluted), public defense of her employer's use of racial slurs. Good show!

Let me go out on a limb by suggesting that MPOE-PR has never met a real public relations professional or perhaps there's just not much of substance going on in the MPOE organization.

Oh I know, I'm just a newbie nobody demonstrating my intellectual inferiority... or a scammer. You got it all figured out PR chick!

Lol

Dude above me, calm the hell down!

I think that according to the most recent bleedin' edgy research in the field of Internet telepathy your problem is something deep down and the cure is hugs. Or something like that anyway.

@kttn your quote is all messed up. I did not say what you quote me as saying (principally because it's a stupid defense of the entire "here is what I think on some topic I have no competence on" approach to communication).

THEYSEEMETROLLING THEYIGNORING. tryintocatchmefapping to aynrand tryintocatchme fapping to aynrand..
YOU SAID EDGY. LOLOLOLOL.
 /thread

Maybe you missed this? 

What I am preoccupied with is the fact that you seem to be arguing that it is a waste of time to make an attempt at treating people decently.

As to Moe, is there a way to restate that if you change his physical defect to something he was born with?

Ah, I see. You're paid by the post. I'll leave you to your bleedin' edgy public relatin'.

That is not a fact, that is a strawman. Go argue with it privately.


Who exactly was born muscular? I mean I get it, you were born stupid and lazy. So was everyone. You have decided these are things you wish to cultivate in yourself. Guess what? Not everyone has.


Nope, I make fixed rate (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-april-2013-statement/#footnote_0_47457). Want a hug nao?

So.. how exactly is this racism?

Ok I'll rephrase then.  Is it a waste of time to make an attempt to be decent to people?


Is it really so hard to admit that there may be some people born at a disadvantage?  In this case I am thinking particularly things imposed on society to keep the status quo.  There are many other things.  Of course every person needs to make the best of their situation, that is up to them.  Did you know it's possible to be born with PTSD? 

Can they be born with Global Warming too?

If it's not a waste of time to attempt to be decent to people what's the problem?

The problem is that you're pretending like you have a clue what "decent" and "people" mean. You don't.

To whichever mod deleted my post featuring a perfectly on-topic racist joke :

http://img8.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-Cyanide-and-Happiness-jews-oven-681118.png

Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently abandoned, everywhere is war.

Unless you're suggesting genocide.

How about now you tell me what good it does to discriminate in this way?

:)


Pretty sure thats what fuels his deranged postings.  ;D ;D ;D


Unfortunately I am very certain MPOO-ER is a racist who simply does not have the courage to stand by their convictions when put to question.
It simply a case of wilful ignorance, an honest intelligent person confronted with this information would have no recourse but to admit their fault and ignorance, unfortunately MPO-ER and MPEx are intelligent but have near 0 credibility (MPO-ER for instance is frequently caught out in their own lies). So his only course of action is to feign miscomprehension and restate his flawed opinions again and again.


Indeed, every bit as repulsive as the WBC - why they chose to make a gambling and stock platform their soapbox for racism is beyond me.



Well standing next yourself is a good start for improving anyones relative decency.

Bumping thread - you newbies need to be aware of SDICE's affilations and warned against MR-POO'ER and MPEx.

MR-POO'ER and MPEx are confirmed racists.
MR-POO'ER is a confirmed liar.

Please consider this information carefully when doing any dealing with them.