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The ex-Minister of economy of France Emmanuel macron, the results of opinion polls, will win a landslide victory in the second round of the presidential election. It is expected that the Makron attains 64% of the vote, while his rival and former leader of "National front" marine Le Pen is ready to support only 36% of the French. In addition, the survey shows that the Macron in the second round they vote 93% of voters Benoit Amon and 77% Jean-Luc. At the same time, Le Pen can count on 37% of the votes of the electorate of françois Fillon.

It looks like it. He also feels eerily like Tony Blair. Someone who'll tell everyone everything and leave an unpleasant taste in the mouth once he's history. Bizarre that the of the two contenders, one has two MPs and the other has none. That's a message to the old school.

Remember the US elections?

Remember, our socialist media, constantly confirming polls that showed Hillary ahead?

The silent majority are waking.

Right now, Le Pen is 28 points behind Macron as per the latest opinion polls. Even if there is a significant reverse Bradley effect (as the case with the rust belt states such as Wisconsin in the 2016 POTUS election), it will be impossible for her to overcome this margin.

Lol cause sure the silent majority would be glad to see Lepen at power xD

Well anyway we're screwed. On the one hand there is a crazy bitch who simply wants to build a fucking wall around the whole country, on the other a corrupted asshole who wants to continue giving less taxes to companies and more power to banks...

Oh should I point out that the crazy bitch is also corrupted as fuck? She's been stilling millions from the people already...

I agree with you.
It's obvious that French people lost confidence in traditional political parties.
Both Macron and Le Pen are not candidates from the main parties, establishment.
French people send very serious warnings to the political mainstream, that they don't represent them any more.
In the second round french people will vote for stability, EU, NATO and new economy instead of political chaos Le Pen offering with her immigration politics.
She didn't offer any serious solutions to current political and economical issues in France.
War with EU is to radical move and french people understand it.

Dude....
Lepen I disagree but ok she's not the STANDARD party. Even if she's still greatly in the establishment as you put it.

But Macron? He's a fucking banker! He's a former minister!!! How the hell is that not "political mainstream"??

Macron is just the standard French politician. Just a bit younger.
Same ideas as usual, same methods, same speechs.
OMG even his speeches are copies of Hollande speeches!

he seems to like blockchain and digital economy at least :)

That is the voice of the people of France and we cannot but to agree with it especially that we are not a citizen in that country. Then there will be no great financial changes in France since Le Pen lost and they will continue to use pounds as their official currency. But the election is not over and let us witness if there are major changes on the actual election itself.

I'm talking here about political mainstream only.
Macron started his own political movement last year and don't represent any of two main political parties in France.
For the first time in the last 50 years, main political parties will not have their candidate in the second round.

Yeah but it's just a change of name...
The ideas are the same, the pople behind him are the same (I mean he has the support of the whole old government), the people paying for the campaign are the same...
You can't say it's not new and mainstream just because the party in itself is young, that's just brainwashing.
His political party is the same as the old PS which is now dying. Giving it a new name doesn't make it new in any kind of way xD

Not at all. He just likes whatever he wants if it makes vote for him.

He's a banker, he's completely for digital evonomy and blockchain IF it's under the control of banks...

https://www.fintechlawblog.com/2016/03/the-french-take-on-the-blockchain/ :D

The closing statement provided by Emmanuel Macron, the French Minister of Economy, Industry and Digital Economy, was subsequently echoed by his announcement on March 29 of the upcoming adaptation of the French finance regulatory framework in order to progressively allow the introduction of the technology.

This adaptation should first open up to experimentation on the mini-bond market, to be expanded to other tools.

Mr. Macron stated that he was “aware of the importance of the disruptive potential of the blockchain” while the regulatory framework was limited by the current French and European regulations, which prevented the use of the blockchain “in real-life situations, i.e. with real clients and not exclusively in closed beta test scenario within a given financial institution.”

It was also announced that a ministerial ordinance had just been submitted for review to the French Administrative Supreme Court (“Conseil d’État”) to allow for such experimentation in the coming weeks.

 ;D

Many old people yearn for their youth and support the actions of populists and fascists like marine Le pen, the collapse of the EU and return to the franc. For the young this is a return to the past and reduced opportunities. I am sure that the future for such as Macron.

Both losers of the first rounded called their votes to vote for Macron, however Le Pen voters are still more motivated to attend the votings than the losers's voters.
It all depends on who will go vote.

If more people vote, Macro sure has an advantage.
Personaly that would be my vote also, if I were eligeble to vote in France.

Mainpmf. Please show us credible references to Le Penns stealing?

Who was it that called her a facist? May i remind you Hitler was a socailist? Stalin? Mao? Pol pot? Castro?

Facist is the label given by the extreme left along with the new catch phrase 'far right' and 'populist'. The conservative right actually stand for democracy, free speech and a laze' fair economic system.

The media lied to us about the polls in the US elections. Whats the bet they are doing it now?

I sympathize with your frustration, but the first round of elections in France confirmed that the sociologists did not lie. The results coincided with those that they predicted. I am sure they will do so with the second round. As for socialism not to be confused with fascism. It's not the same. Simply fascism hiding under the guise of any other social system. In Russia now also there are all the signs of fascism, but they don't recognize.

Easy. She created a false third party called Jeanne and had all her candidates to local elections to be have no choice but to take loans from this party in order to buy fake campaign kits. Everything was then repaid by the state, hence by the people.
You can find everything here:
http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/fn/affaire-jeanne-le-fn-a-industrialise-le-systeme-de-remboursement-public_1887529.html
http://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2017/02/25/le-microparti-de-marine-le-pen-vise-par-un-redressement-fiscal_5085560_1653578.html

Or anywhere you want just by typing "Lepen affaire Jeanne" in Google. She basically stole MILLIONS to the country and it's elected members of the FN who admitted that she forced them to do that.

Wrong.
Hitler was a fascist, Stalin Mao and the others too, fascist isn't the opposit of socialist. You can actually be facsist AND socialist. Socialist is an economic ideology, fascist is a political ideology. You can totally have both. And Marine Lepen is a fascist simply because she completely imposes her opinions in her party, if you disagree even the slightest you get kicked out, and violently. That's the definition of fascism: gathering people by force. But that doesn't mean she's the only one, it's just a fact.

I don't give a fuck about the polls. Both candidates are pure trash.
Just don't get lured by Lepen and think she's the good guy. She's not. It doesn't mean Macron is anything better though.

I do not remember that at the election both candidates were good. Usually always in the last round of elections leaving a bad candidate and worse. But to choose someone to have. I always vote for the lesser evil. Macron lesser evil so he becomes President.

Well that's the problem...

Especially because this year there WAS good candidates...
People have no excuse. France isn't like USA with only 2 shitty candidates. We had 11 with a couple of good ones and the 3 first candidates are 3 corrupted assholes!

It's like we select the 3 worst possibilities ><

People only vote for what they know  ;D

People seem to be afraid of their own brothers.
When asked about Melenchon project of giving back the power to the people everyone was like "yeah no, people are too stupid to decide"

Guys you're stupid for not being able to trust in the ability of people to learn...
Surely direct democraty would be hard to set up.
But at least it would be OUR mistakes, not devious plans set up by corporations and banks to steal from us and take our freedom...

Macron will increase the taxes, and thereby destroy the economy. He is a fan of Angela Merkel. He will permit unlimited Muslim immigration from the middle east, and by the end of his term, France will be a Muslim majority nation.

Lol...

Everywhere melanchon plan has been applied it's disaster

NO WAY marine Le Pen WILL WIN ..

The TV is with the ELITE SO TAKE NO NOTICE OF THE POLLS ..

Another poll found some 61 per cent of French voters think that Ms Le Pen is leading a successful second-round campaign, compared to 48 per cent for Mr Macron, according to a Harris Interactive poll for RMC and Atlantico published on Wednesday.

Mr Macron is the current front runner ahead of the second round of the French election but has been accused of complacency by both rivals and allies

He was booed and jeered by striking factory workers during a chaotic campaign visit in northern France, marking a stark contrast with Ms Le Pen taking photographs with workers.

She vowed to stop the factory from closing if elected on May 7, and told the striking staff: “Everyone knows what side Emmanuel Macron is on - he is on the side of the corporations.


Marine Le Pen must win so the FRENCH can take back there country..

Do you want your sons and daughters to have a chance in life or be a slave to EU gangsters .
To know you will get higher pay instead of cheap labour..


BE WARNED BIG BUSINESS YOU CAN MOVE YOUR COMPANIES..
BUT YOU WILL NEVER EVER SELL YOUR PRODUCTS ON OUR MARKETS NOT EVER..

Soon this will be the rule of law ;).

Moving companies to other countries for cheaper labour destroying your own country
But then have the cheek to want to sell your product back to your own peoples..
            ^
YOU CHEEKY BASTARDS..
So because the government rise inflation the wages need to rise but because you decide you can get cheaper labour in Africa you move your company ..NO CHANCE NOT NO MORE..

LOOK WHAT THE ELITE DO TO CITIES..

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THE EU WILL CREATE MANY OF THESE TOWNS IF YOU LET THEM OWN YOUR COUNTRIES..

THANK FUCK WE THE UK ARE OUT..

VOTE MRS MAY..
VOTE LE PEN..

The money we give the EU we get half back and they tell us how to spend it..
I mean even an IDIOT can do the MATH.. ::)

Never believe the TV until the day the vote is OVER..
TV owned by the ELITE and the friends ;).

WE THE PEOPLE KNOW ALL YOUR SHADY TRICKS..

And on a last note about fake news..

It's you THE MAIN TV NEWS WHO IS FAKE..

So tell yourselves to stop it..Just a little tip ;)..

Macron is considered to be the the favorite man of banks and that's the reason Holland put him as finance minister. In addition, Macron was created and supported by media and it is most likely that the socialistic France will elect him as president not because he wants him but because he does not want Le Pen.

Marine Le Pen is exactly the archétype of priviligied familly of gangster who live in castle, never worked of their life, and dont care about economy outside of keeping their privilege in the french system gathering deseperate idiots into lost cause.

What I like with him is he break all the traditional voting more rooted in indoctrination and political code rather than based on true critical thinking and new ideas. This concept of two opposed extreme in politics is very toxic. And always depend on swallowing certain doctrine on identity or socialism.

Actually it's very long time im waiting for a true liberal voice to rise in french politics. Just to inject some fresh air into the ideological routine and people voting more by habits and brainwashing than anything.

And he is totally pro start up, pro innovation and investment.

The whole thing that he work for banks doesnt seem so well established. Well he worked in the banking sector before, but in a way, we all work for banks in a way or another, and he seem more open minded and smarter than the others, and also talk to smarter fraction of french electors, which i find more refreshing than giving privilege to a certain class by culture and indoctrination, and giving more advantage to this class or that class just based on electoral calculus.

I find him very refreshing on this.

And he is not racist, not against any group, rather respectfull in general, and see a bit further than his own gardens ans how to grow tomatoes in his gardens with some pastis as the ultimate goal for France. .

Oh please... It has NEVER BEEN APPLIED

You're just an idiot confusing that with USSR communism...

You wanna knwo who acts the same than Melenchon? Switzerland. Not doing so bad hey?

Lol.

Please give us one.

I'm not even going to argue that 99% of his programm is shit, just give us ONE new idea.

Cause I haven't seen one.

He praises more Cuba and venezula than swizerland. .. and yes it has been applied, but maybe you prefer to deny history..

The principle of liberalism is that it's not the leader who tell all the idea..

DUDE! The programm of Melenchon was freaking simple and has never been applied anywhere!

People were to vote their own constitution and their laws.

Direct democracy was never applied. His personnal ideas are of course more closed to socialism but his programm was to give back the power to the people. And that has never happenned.

You just said that he was "refreshing" and had a programm "based on rationnal thinking and new ideas".

I just asked you to prove your words. Which you couldn't because Macron is nothing but pure emptiness and bullshit.

I said he is open to new idea, and not stuck in political doctrine to fit his electoral calculus based on sheeps voting the same party for 4 generations without question ..

I said more critical thinking than rational ;)

Melanchon is ultra authoritarian, even the true communist party shun him for this .. his organisation is very pyramidal, and he see himselve as some kind of Lenin with simplistic populist idea to lead the revolution of government employee lol

Giving power to people is Lenin, cuba, Mao, cambodge , with popular revolution against the elite, nothing better to sunk à country for 50 years ..

This quote above about the French President Emmanuel Macron is running on my timeline. He marries his teacher almost 25 years older than him.  Kewl, I think thats true love. His wife's daughter is his classmate.

Never sell an election before it is over, but it seems indeed that Macron, the socialist banker, the poor elite's child, the a-political former minister, will win hands up over Le Pen, putting an end to the conspiracy theory that Le Pen's election would bring the Euro down, and that this would result in the cataclysm of world fiat banking, putting bitcoin finally as world currency, and a few bitcoin whales as owning a few countries.
So that can be filed as a dream (or nightmare) now.

So when his wife is used up, he can switch to his step daughter (finally)  ;D

Some say he is gay ;)

 Lepen want to ban bitcoin, I bet she want to go back to Sestertius and remove internet because WiFi is bad for health and it prevent tomatoes to grow and it only bring trouble with multi culturalism lol

His wife's son is older than him. Isn't that a bit weird to you guys? Or is that a common situation in France?

I don't see any difference between Macron and Lepen anyway. Both are rightist faschists. Lepen is just a bit more hardcore. I guess you can't expect anything else from them, we are talking about France in the end.  ;D

No it's not common situation in france lol but most likely he is gay or bi and his wife is a facade.

But yeah not much to expect from politics in france, everything seem stuck lol

Macron look a bit softer and target different audience, wait & see, lot of people are fed up with both too, they never mention the 40% or so of abstentionnists, and the number of "non expressed vote" is never taken in account, only the ones who express a vote for a candidate, so the real % is much lower if it is put in the whole number of electors, it's about an half of it, many time for deputies they never reach 10% lol and it will break all high records and im pretty sure there are going to be strong motion in the street in the next monthes ;)

In the end even macron have more people against him than pro, even if he end first, the two other party hate him and they make more than 50% of electors, even if the two other 25% are not on the same side, they still cant stand him lol neither on the left or right side .

Between the terrorists and the fascists what can goes wrong lol

That not false, but the governance system want the politic working that way.
You're president okay. But their is a 2nd vote called 'Legislative' to vote for the peoples who review, accept or deny the new or law's updates.
If during that 2nd vote, the opposition wins: nothing shall pass.

In france people have a culture of strong presidential leadership,  and talk a lot about quality for electors who represent certain value etc, and the president can by pass the deputy chamber with the in famous 49.3 article who has been used by previous government to pass the "macron law" without a vote by deputies ..

Many people did not forgive this, specially on the left.

It's why it's easy to forsee lot of turmoil in the street :) macron will never have a majority in the deputy chamber, and majority will vite against him, but for what it worth, deputy are elected with 10% of votes and they are very critised lately too with all the advantage they have, and how it become a mafia of old professionals of politics who only think in term of carrer and personal advantage..

You're goddamn right.
I can't stand our media saying that "right wing lost the election"... Right is already at power! There is nothing but liberals and rightist as candidates now, all the socialists and marxists haven't gone further than first turn :'(


But still there is a slight hope. "France Insoumise" had nearly 20% of votes this time. That's still too low but we might manage to finally make a democratic revolution next time.
Maybe
I hope ^^

There are 20% of melanchon and 20% of Lepen, and large % of non voters or people who are not convinced by macron either ;)

Not sure how this is going to end but clearly most people seem fed up with current politics lol

Yeah it was like 20% of people who didn't vote?
That sure makes quite lot of people.

I don't see how people could be anything but fed up. We're being enslaved every day a bit more by international companies. They got control over pretty much everything and they're just using corrupted assholes like Lepen to make us believe that the "real danger is Islam and immigration"

Sure, what's more dangerous? Free international companies or Islamic terrorism? If you answered terrorism please look at the number of deaths due to working conditions and the amount of deaths due to terrorist attacks in developped countries.
They want to make us believe the real problem are people "abusing social system". If you believe that just look at the cost of those abuses (a few dozens millions) and the cost of fiscal evasion (a few billions) and think again

Always the same shit...

The count of non voting is always obfuscated between white vote, null vote, and non voters, and it's always kept a bit obscure anyway, but they are expecting very high amount close to 40% for 2nd round :)

Islamic terrorist is just the ugly hidden face of capitalist economy ;) All terrorists group are created by cia and the network are actually very close to let say gw bush, or all the buisness connection with Islamic regimes either in usa or France. . And in the end terrorism is the monster they created in their cold war plot.

Macron want to rise minimum social help to 750e no ? He seem to be ok with social help and minimum, it's hard to see how he will manage to concile everything but maybe he has a plan lol

Agreed on the the first part. Capitalism alone can't do shit, you got to weaken it with something otherwise it just eats everything until it explodes.

Yeah the guys wants to rise minimum social help to 750e for EVERYONE (including very rich people xD)
He also wants to lower all taxes (companies and people), to delete taxation on high fortunes and to rise every budget (army, police, education...).
We just don't know how he lowers every taxe and rise every budget and social help xD

Maybe because what he says is bulshit and he know he won't do it.

I believe lot of energy in france is wasted with useless political battles and everyone digging his trench against the other .. for me it's the main problem in france, rather than anything else, and I see macron potentially as a good thing in this regard.

If everyone in france could really collaborate and trust each other on real economic objective instead of wasting all this energy with useless fear and defiance , it would solve all the pb lol soon you can call the french beavers with all those barrage they build against each others lol

I have to disagree here, for a quite simple reason: we don't have the same problems

You can't collaborate with someone if you don't have the same objective!

The people have an objective: to build a better country for the future
The politicians have another objective: to get the economy even more oppened and biased for big companies, so they can get a big cut from those groups

How do you want us to cooperate?

If they keep fighting each others keeping each on their side of trench afraid of the other without wanting to make step over their trench, nothing can work at all...

The poor or "people" are always angels who think only about common good, and the other are the devil who want to enslave everyone else, it's a bit simplistic too ... 

Without cooperation nobody get anywhere and stay in his trench spending all his energy pesting on the other side as only finality digging a deeper trench. .

Oh yeah it can and it will. The fact is that we have to get out of the trench, for sure.
We will have no choice.

It will not be for cooperation though, probably in order to kill everyone in the other trenches.

Yeah with everyone with blinder listening to the propaganda of his leader against the other side who are evil monster who sacrifice baby and kill everyone else lol

When politicians go to the polls they always promise more than you can do. Only after they come to power, they realize that their promises are not feasible. Politicians such as Le pen initially promising something that will not do. Their goal is power and nothing more.

http://corsemachin.com/politique/3-castors-refusent-de-faire-barrage-front-national/


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The beavers are on it lol

 ;D ;D Im dead lol

If he does increase the minimum social help, we will see -again- more and more peoples abusing of the system. Some peoples gain only 950€ per month for working 151h, why would they sacrifice all that time for just 200€ ?
The entire social system should be revisited to rework the gap between the workers and no-workers.
But Macron don't really care, he is not for the peoples, he is for the banks & big companies.

Am i so uninformed? France national currency is Euro, you cannot buy something using pounds in France, or it is possible without any exchange?

Indeed, usually his girlfriend's mother is younger than him (president) :)

No more like everyone in each side agreeing on an ideal and ideas that can not whatsoever coexist with the ideals and ideas of the opposite side.

Oh people look!!! An idiot saying bullshit! :D

You say pure shit buddy, every word of your previous post is false.
No one works 151h a month for 950€. If they does they're stupid. That's pure slavery.

No one earns more by being unemployed than by working.

Everything you say is false and that's why you haven't given any source or proof whatsoever.

Maybe he can borrow carla bruni  :o

You should not laugh. A lot of women age better than stupid young girls. Can be for sex he has a mistress, and to live and socialize him better with his wife.

I almost threw up when I saw him with his "wife". It was gross. Even worse than the octogenarian Hugh Heffner banging minor girls. This guy is even weirder than the average Japanese male. He should try for the presidency of Japan, not France. 

Yeah because it is actually so strange to see someone going out and marrying someone 20 years older than himself...
How weird
The guy had actually fallen in love with someone older, LOL
That's surely a great proof of how unfit he is unfit to fulfill the role of president.

While a guy like Trump saying that he would bang his own daughter is perfectly fine of course.

(If you failed to see the sarcasm here please stop breathing)

Wrong. Hitler was a socialist. Or at least won the election from the left. Just read the program of the NSDAP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program) It's getting increasingly leftist from point 10 :).

The Italian fascists were actually syndicalists what is also a branch of the left.

Please read my comment again. I never said Hitler wasn't socialist I said he was a fascist. As said before you can be both socialist and facsist or capitalist and fascist because socialist/capitalist are economical ideas while fascism is a political idea.

Thus said, it doesn't really matter in this case because fascism is a political idea that takes the step from the economical idea. Capitalist fascim and socialist fascism are more or less the same in the end.

I can tell you that I am far from being so sure. Each day that passes, I am more and more afraid that Le Pen wins. That would be disastreous for the country.

She just loose some more points :

Don't know about France, but I know plenty people in the EU who get less than 950€ per month at a full time job. I agree it's slavery, but check the minimum wages in Europe, you'll be surprised. Many countries are in the ~500€ range. We're talking about millions of "stupid" people here.

New orders in Europe I really do not like people relaxed. And they ceased to fight for their existence in this way, if for example the country is a strong Leader, the policy regarding international relations will begin to change.

He is 39 and she is 64. The difference is much more than 20 years. And he fell in love with her, when he was 15 and she was 40. Such a guy is unfit to be the president of any nation, much less France.

Yes mainpmf point taken.

I will also read up on La Penns history.

Looks like a teenager who fell in love with friend's mom or a teacher. I mean it's not that uncommon, but it's very uncommon to actually pursue this and marry her.
I don't like his political views and although we shouldn't judge his taste in women, this will surely look awkward when she becomes the first grandma lady.

You say that because you've never been in such a situation. The world knows a lot of examples of unequal marriages and usually such marriages are more resistant to dissolution than marriage between people of the same age group. View a great Comedy, a French production titled "Pretend to be my boyfriend." Maybe then your views will change.

Yeah well I bet you'll find that interesting...

Anyone can vote Lepen because he thinks Macron stinks.
But if you vote Lepen because you think she'll do "what's right for the people and the country" then you're just an immense moron who deserves to be considered as one.

That's funny because I could think dozens of things to accuse Macron...

But clearly his relationship is the last shit I think about xD

The difference is the cost of life and regulation ;)

In France minimum wage is about 1200€ and week work is 35h. Of course some people have no choice but to take jobs not really following rules... You see people working 40 or 45 hours.
But working 5 times the maximum work hours for 300€ less than the minimum wage? That's stupid! You just work like that 1 month and then you go to court cause there is NO WAY the company wins...

So 25... So different for what I said...

Could you just explain me with actual arguments why someone falling in love with anyone older is a default? Especially for being president?

Or is it just that "hezifhazeipze not good ezbntobaezptuz against God" usual crap?

I mean you prefer a relationship as healthy as the ones where the girl is younger and the guy is rich?

That guy is talking about east european border nations - some of them are still 3rd world status because communism wasnt that cool in the end.

We all said the same thing about Trump when placed like the Huffington post were coming out with reports that gave Trump a 1.8 percent chance of winning the Presidencey, though I do see the difference here as it is opinion polling. Trump was also down in all the polls and I simply think this was because some people were just afraid to say they were supporting Trump until they went to the voting booths and showed their support in the ballot box.

I don't know what's going to happen, but I do think that if she does lose which she has a good chance of losing I think it's going to be much closer then we expected to happen. Or at least, what the media expected to happen.

Macron has no merit. He's just an opportunist. I wish there could be some dose of meritocracy in french politics, but I'm dreaming. Marine Le Pen is where she is because of her father, while Macron was a nobody 3 years ago. He only got famous when the president choose him to become minister. He's young and bullish. I'm not sure he is what France needs, but frankly I don't care. I think that country is doomed. Every time I'm going there, there are strikes and street blockades...

I don't know whether that will happen with Le Pan as well. But in the first round, she got even less votes than what the opinion polls predicted. I am unsure whether this will change during the second round.

Doomed yeah,
The only developped country that still tries to resist capitalism without limit.
Yeah we go on strike. Cause we don't see why we should be paid less and less while every company is growing and every share holder is earning more and more ;)

You go on strike for what purpose? If you want to change something then you must have a plan of action. I see you only have slogans and nothing more. It seems to me that strike for you is a way of expression. This is a chance when you can break the law and hide in the crowd.

Strike is one of the most effective means possible for a group of professionals within a certain industry to show that they don't agree with a decision and that they oppose it. Without the right to exercise free speech, be it through strikes, protests or even social media posts, governments would be able to create legislation at will, with no regard for the people they are supposed to serve. Going on strike is most definitely a plan of action, and it is indeed a way of expression. Going on strike isn't "hiding in the crowd", it's fighting for your rights.

Strikes are OK, as long as it is restricted to once per year or once every two years. But where I live, the factory workers are striking almost the every other day. You know what is going to happen in the end. The owner will close down the factory, and these clowns will be left jobless.

Not true at all.
No one goes on strike for pleasure... It takes time, money and isn't really a good way to have good relationships with your boss...

People go on strike when they have no other ressort. When it's either going on strike or seeing people fired.
And in most cases the plan of action is rather simple... Stop feeding the shareholder and start caring for those who actually work...

Strikes don' thappen if everything is fine and the boss is fair.
People don't go on strike for fun. It's not fun at all to spend days doing nothing but losing time and money. Most workers can't afford to go on strike for long.

If people go on strike it's that there is a real problem in the company. 95% of small companies never went to strike simply because the boss and the employees talk to each other.

We don't know for sure. There are left 5 days until the final results. But I think whoever is the next president of France she/he will do the same things like Trump/Clinton. If Lepen win, the only thing we are actually wining is time.

Don't know where you're getting your knowledge about world economy, but there are no nations of a 3rd world status in the European Union, not even close.
In third world countries, or postcolonial countries, citizens usually have to survive on less than $100 a month. Wages in the EU start with €400 a month, which as you can see is completely incomparable.

There is a huge difference between election in France and in the United States.

First, based on the french system Trump would have lost.

Secondary , the difference in polls was not even closer to what is right now in France.
Trump needed a few thousands votes in some key states and that's all.
The best example is Michigan won by 11 000 votes, 47,5 to 47, 2.
Le Pen needs a few millions that have to come out of somewhere but from where nobody knows

In the US you win a few states by 10 votes and you lose some other by millions and you can still win.
That is not how things work in France.


But is perfectly ok in the Trump family , right?

I don't know European countries where the salary is 400 euros. The minimum wage in Germany, 1080 euros. In poor countries, and lower prices. Should not be considered wages, and purchasing power. In Germany, you will not live on 100 euros a month.

shhhhhh
Don't use arguments against Trumtards, it makes them feel uncomfortable xD

And I still don't understand how it is linked in any way to ones ability to rule a country...

Theoretically, this does not affect the process of governance, but if the leader is subservient to his wife, he will not be able to manage the country. He can't be a leader at all. Psycho President can always predict features of his reign.

So now having an older wife means you're subservient?
I see the arguments are getting better and better...

When a man lives with an older woman he psycho child. The woman also cares about him as a child and this imposes a definite imprint on the character of the spouses. The child always tries to consult with the "mother".

What does this even mean? Do you subscribe to the Freudian notion that every man's secret goal is to have sex with his mother, and that he is secretly jealous of his own father? I think there are plenty of issues with Macron, such as his being a part of the core banking system which Bitcoin seeks to be an alternative to, but his spouse is not a big one.

AFAIK, Bulgaria and Romania are in the €400 range, with Lithuania and Hungary being just €100 above that. I'm aware that purchasing power might be different, but they are all in the Union with open borders. You can jump in a car, do some shopping in a neighboring country and be back in less than 2 hours. PP line gets blurred when the borders open and on one side you have people earning twice more than you do.
I wasn't talking about the minimum but the average.

Sure, and when the man is older it's the same thing but as a dad figure.
In fact the only sane relationships are when the 2 have the same age. They can maybe have 1 year of difference but more and it's just a psychotic relationship. ::)

I don't understand. Some people are successful, obviously they're not related to you, but you think that their success should be shared with you? Why? If you're a loser, you have to change yourself. The winners, nor the world doesn't need you.

That's why I left actually, too many losers there. I've sold the apartment I had on the riviera in 2014. I think Ethiopia is much nicer than France nowadays. The people are nicer, they work harder while being paid only a fraction of what the average French makes, and they're also happier.

M.Macron, if elected, will have a lot to do. I hope he can do greater things than seducing a woman 25 years older than him. Is that his greatest achievement?

You guys are having a very interesting and good discussion so I dont want to intervene but aren't the calculations of you telling Le Pen needs millions based on poll's? And isn't the other guy saying that poll-results aren't reliable just like they weren't in The States? The polls in Turkey said that the NO-side wouldve won too btw.

You owe me £100 for letting you post on here ..
So pay up before you do another post..

Because i let you post on here and if you want to you can open a new thread and advertise a new coin or token if you wish..
BUT I WANT THE £100..Or no more posting..

NOW YOU KNOW HOW THE UK FEEL^^^^^^^^THE EU..

Lol
Not exactly man.
UK signed an agreement first.
You don't want to pay? Maybe you should have read more carefully the contract first xD

No. That is plain wrong. If the POTUS election was solely based on popular vote, then Trump would have polled much more votes than Hillary. Confused? Check the turnout in the heavily Republican counties in deep-blue states such as California and Maryland. The Republicans in California didn't voted, as they knew that their candidate was not going to win. In some of the counties, less than 50% of the registered voters cast their ballot. There were a few deep-red states as well (such as West Virginia and Nebraska), but the population of these states were very low.

Same could be told for Hitlery.
Anyway it's a useless argument that was raised because the election is over.
Still the 2 elections aren't comparable. Contrary to USA, France has still a deep memory of fascism and its consequences. We have it written in the laws as much as in History.

Are you stupid or just a troll?
UK SIGNED a contract stipulating that if they wanted to leave they should pay!
If I sign a contract with you to buy your house and it says I owe you 1% of the amount if I stop transaction, will I be able to not pay and still stop the transaction? No of course not! Same here

No, the millions are based on the the number of votes Le Pen has managed to attract over time.
They have never managed to attract support from the left or the l/r centrist in local / eu parlament / parliamentary elections.

For example on the last elections the FN (her party) managed to get  27% votes. She only got 22 right now.


Let's not even start the discussion about Turkey.
That was a result like the one in North Korea or Venezuela.





Assumptions , assumption and far more assumptions.
The fact is that there are 2 million votes that Trump lost the Popular vote by.

And I can also launch assumption.
Maybe the New Yorkers stayed at home because they new that only half of them voting would get the votes needed.

My town is the bets example for this as the mayor got elected with 78% with a lower than 40% turnout.
Most people stayed at home because we all knew we was going to get elected there was simple no other option.



Well, let's have then a president who said goodbye to two wives in the past.
If he gets bored maybe he will divorce the us also....

I've heard Australia has some nice curves

Pretty sure Macron will be the next president of France and I'm very happy with that. I would hate to see France leave the EU, then again I think he could push the EU in a different direction and contribute changing the way the EU works at the moment.

Emmanuel macron has said that if elected President of France he will be the initiator of the reform of EU management in order to prevent later all the talk about the exit of France from the EU.

Yeah so nothing.
I mean the guy hasn't even started to explain what will be those "reforms of EU management"...
And do I have to say again that you can't change anything in the EU management without the agreement of ALL MEMBERS? So that's pure void he's got nothing and will do nothing.

Do you live in France ?


Exactly.

Lol
I still hadn't receive an answer from the guys trying to explain how marrying someone 25 years older is an important fact for filling the presidential seat.
I mean the guy has lots of defaults and will make an horrible president but his wife isn't a problem.
That's one of the few things which is not the problem to be honest xD

Well, since we know love is blind maybe he is suffering also from some sort of blindness..which might get him unfit for being president.

Other than that let's be honest, I doubt there are more than 0.00001 % of users here who haven't fapped at least once on milf porn.

You goddamn right.
But 65 years old is a bit too much for me xD
That's no longer milf, it's more like granny.
And I have to admit I never fapped tog ranny porn.

I think that she was 55 when they married...so it mid granny. :).
But then again, as charlie sheen said once, maybe "she knows things".

But let's end this now. The elections are already a bad joke no need to involve porn in this mess.
Although, Porn would win the elections by 99%.

People do have strange fetishes. Some are acceptable, such as MILF addiction and BDSM. But there are some other fetishes, such as having sex with animals, which can't be accepted. Unfortunately, Macron is having a similar kind of fetish. This pervert should not be made the president of France.

:D Are there even other options? It's this pervert or Le Pen, right? I have not read the whole topic but what's the best choice between those two?

Why do you say that? A lot of young guys Dating older women. When you're 20, and she 35-38 is that a bad thing? Try it and you will understand that a 35 year old lover is much better than 20 years. It's not perversion it's a reality.

This is low low supporters of Le Pen have turned, you're calling somebody an animal .. for what?

Btw , do you know that Le Pen had 2 husbands that divorced her and how she's living with another man?
Pretty much tells everything about her, no man want's to stay too much around her

And she's only 48 and she looks way worse than Macron's wife even with 20 years separating.


And know to the polls after the discussion
63%   vs 34%

I always fancied young girls like 18-20 yo. When I was 15 I stared at 18s, when I was 20 I stared at 18s, when I was 25 I still stared at 18s...
Some things never change, I bet when I'm 40 I'll still want an 18. I get that some people like older women, just like some people like their jeans worn out. ;)

Citizens Comrades Will you wait for the presidency of Marie Le Pen that many French citizens will begin to live on the moon like wolves. This woman will bring Europe to the handle and not just his country. So you need to vote for the peasant is unequivocal.

It can be a difficult choice for many people. Reminds me of the American presidential elections of 2016. But you need to make a choice. You need to select the lesser evil. Abstaining from voting is something that only the retards will do.

Ok so for you you have to go voting and chose?
Why?
On the first turn ok, there was a huge number of choices, not voting was a bit odd because you could always find someone. But here? Why having to chose between the two?

You don't need to select the lesser evil. If 80% of people stop voting on this election, the president elected will have no power or legetimity and it will be natural to change the system.

Well yesterday the french news post that Macron is winning Le pen with 68% of the population, it is obvius who is gonna win by now.

How reliable are these polls?

A large part of the population is going to abstain, and it can alter these calculations. The lower the turnout, that much brighter will be the chances for Le Pen. But I still expect her to loss by a margin of 10+ points.

You continue to amaze me. You that Putin is a vampire bite? I certainly understand that the Russian do not want to admit defeat. All the more so when three Pro-Russian candidate wins one about the French. Such arguments as a fetish that does not exist you have not fallen off a rating of Makron.

Congratulation with Angle Merkel being the next president of France!

Say hello to your new neighbours:
http://www.rockit.news/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/rape_finland-1.jpg

Why is that extra large white lady raping those three poor colored midgets? She clearly came there topless (I don't see a discarded shirt), and is about to scissor kick the shirtless guy? It's fucked up over there man. Giant white people and sexual violence. If I were an immigrant Id keep on to France. There, you only have to worry about the police sticking a baton up your ass in public. No giantesses with aggressive sexual agenda.

Why is Finland encouraging the rape of immigrants?  ;D

I'm being sarcastic. That is some propoganda bullshit; let motherfuckers start raping additionally and see what happens. It's irresponsible to call for further violence in the same kind if you disagree with the initial violence. This sign very stupidly says to me "let's rape our women, if other people can so should we!"


Rhetoric is an art form, but propoganda is religion. Digest that.

In America this is not possible. You know why? Because Americans have a right to protect themselves using weapons. Any potential rapist knows that at any moment can get shot. In Europe, more stringent gun laws. Maybe the reason for this?

The election of the pervert Emmanuel Macron is just another step in the creation of the Fourth Reich, with Führerin Angela Merkal as the supreme leader. The difference is that, this time there will be a holocaust against the native whites.

http://www.the666.com/fotos/merkel-copyfuhrer.jpg

White genocide  >:(

The joke is sithara is one of the brownie immigrants  :D

Fair but dated before the hacking leak some abstention may also affect turnout.
It is always the most committed that go to the poll the rest are non-participants and do not affect or change the outcome so the game is still on. For another 9 or so hours till the tally's start to come in the only poll that matters is election day.

The smaller the voter turnout the more chances of Him to win the election. Not going to vote, only those who have not decided on the candidacy. So the ratio is 61% to 39% and will remain so.

Don't start trading.. if you believe in a 1 points difference then take a break , after all it's sunday.


Yeah, this happens in my country also.
The ones that hate Muslims are the ones that never saw one in their life.

Reminds me how that town in England voted for brexit by a wide margin while most of the townsfolk are hired by a foreign car factory.

Let's hope so for the sake of Europe, compared to so many weak little competitors that want to see it destroyed.