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I saw many topic that are going in this direction and I wasn't expected to find something like this.

I got really mad seeing that I got a red trust from the user: "lauda" . Ok I get it. He is trusted by trusted and trusted by not  so trusted. I'm not here to talk about actions that happened in past (i read the last topics).

For the first time, well i had another ocassions but nothing important, i wanted to join a bitcoin paid signature. I understand the idea of spaming tough. I can say a little I spammed (if I need to think from his/her point of view), I understand the fact the he/she has all the right to kick me out of it.

But I don't understand the idea of giving me a red trust for this.

What spam I did? I joined 2 days ago and today I made 10-15 replies to some topics, you all can read my replies. There were no one word posts or whatever.

We all know the forum trust system got to a point that really sucks and quality of posts is really down, but still I don't see the point as a DT user to destroy a person's account for this kind of reason.

Now I will try to say it like how life goes on. There are always spammers in all the areas, everyone know that they are spammers but their image is not blacked or painted like it is here. For example 5 minutes ago I wanted to do a trade with a newbie who asked me to go first because i have red trust.

I not even noticed that I am not allowed to do all the posts required in a day or whatever, i had some free time and i wanted to do all of them now, a simple message where I could be warned. I understand the point of view of a company who does accept signature campaigns but still.

Sure many of you will come with a reply haters gonna hate but at a point for a good evolution of what this forum is something must be changed.

I have not tagged you because of your rubbish posts, but because of your attempted abuse of the Bitmixer Signature Campaign. I've banned a great deal of users for the very same behavior in recent times which indicates that is is likely that their accounts are sourced in the same way and/or they are related in some way (including yours).

The forum trust system has nothing to do with the quality of posts, nor are you in any position to judge what DT members can, can not, or should and should not do. All you ever did on this forum was spam. I've even updated the campaign thread to reflect on that.

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I'm now preparing to deal with the amount of spam that you've threatened to unleash on the forum and me. ::)

https://i.imgur.com/IzA5jJT.png

If it were just for "burst posting", a concept that I'm a little on the fence about as far as condemning, I would say that Lauda was being a little overzealous with the neg.  But if you were abusing a sig campaign, that's another matter.  That sort of shit, combined with shitposting, does not go over well on this forum and as you can plainly see, it can earn you a big, shining red mark.  

Nothing much you can do about the trust system.  All of this stuff keeps getting brought up in dozens of threads, but it doesn't look like anything is going to change.  And Lauda is most likely right in handing you the neg, though I don't have time to research this.

Oh yeah, I totally understand.  I trust your judgement with respect to spammers & shitposters and respect what you're trying to do with blacklisting them.  Smooch.

Accounts credited in the same way as mine? Of course i threatened you. Your over god attitude is way useless.

Message sent to lauda:
Where is the point of being a new member on this forum when you will always find users like you? I think it will be better if bitcoin community all arround the world will be fixed only to DT members.

I want a proof that there are other accounts connected with mine. I never had another account on this forum.

Here is the list just from last week (OP is slightly better than this list): kikeda, Format.C^, loges, yueno. I don't know why, but I have noticed a pattern which I'm not going to publicly elaborate as I may lose my advantage in combating it. There seems to be an influx of one-liner/short-posting & post-bursting in an attempt to get 1 maximum payout from Bitmixer before the account is permanently blacklisted and/or neg. rated.

So you're admitting that you're threatening me now? Archived for reference: https://archive.fo/dfbss#selection-1917.43-1917.69

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What's up with people throwing out threats like it's candy nowadays? :-\

Go and analyse. Yes I threatened you it is right. I got nervous I even figure out at the end of pm but i never erase what I think I just keep going with my ideas.

I don't care about campaign. I just do care of my work and my account here. As I said more than year.

I do wait my trust to be removed. Check again this topic:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.msg2221664#msg2221664

This is one of the rules of trust system, u trusted user

You've spammed me to the point where I already had to block your PMs, and now you're threatening me publicly as well. What is wrong with you?

I never rated you based on your post quality. That is also not a rule, it is a guideline.

I don't really see how I could withdraw it now anyways. All I can do is replace it with a new one which would reflect that you are senselessly threatening forum users. :-[

But what about you acusing users for having alts or for being spamer or a cheater(thats what i consider when i see alt account )? What should I say in this case? Or anyone here?

Even if my quality post is down do you think yours are way better? Or maybe your narcisism has no border :(

It's quite clear I abused a lot of your campaign, I used your signature and did 13 posts in 1 hour and 40 minutes. I am really sorry that I do want to reach the 50 posts.And the most hilarious part is that I figure out that I was banned when I wanted to check out if their system counts the posts before going  to sleep. It is my fault that your animal brains think that my post are having the same pattern with other users ^.^ . To be clear, I'm not crying about the campaign, I'm crying about the way she/he used and uses his power over here.

Ahem, *possibly*. Read your rating again:

I'm utmost confident in my post quality being on a level not even comparable by yours. If you want to go into a debate with me about the underlying technology in cryptocurrencies, then be my guest.

So exactly what do you want me to do? Do you even realize how quickly you cornered me? You:
1) Spammed me via PM to the point I had to block you.
2) Privately threatened me via PM.
3) Publicly admitted to threatening me.

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This all happened within.. a few minutes. This kitty needs some time to think. I can't make decisions quickly, even if I wanted to. :-\

Nice said.

I want the trust deleted from my profile. It is unfair and illegit.

Even if I threatened you, sorry for that but I will keep my promise.

And about technology of blockchain alts and so on, neah, you're too newbie

Interesting combination of "illegal" and "illicit" to create a new word.


Wait, what?

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Don't even need to go through more than one post to show why you are considered a spammer.


The post before yours was from 2012. There is no sense in reviving such an old thread to comment on the trade. It is simply useless and does not contribute anything.

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That being said... I just want to bring this post to light. It entertained me and I hope it will entertain a lot more people.

Oh great. Almost 5 am, i write wrong a letter.

Actually your reply is off-topic.

What spam I did? ::)

So you're in GMT+5, [or +4 if you consider 40 mins almost the next hour] huh? (not Arizona, US as your profile indicates)

Also, holy shit that's a lot of Games & Rounds posts. Let it be known that of your 575 posts, 534 of them lie in the Games & Rounds section and at the start of your posting career you consecutively posted in the section, spanning many pages. Only 7% of your posts are outside of Games & Rounds. Let that sink in for a moment.

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Since trust is unmoderated and merely just a system to see who trusts whom, I could give you negative feedback indicating that I find you a spammer and a very unseemly individual. Likewise, Lauda has the very same opportunity, though their feedback is considered trusted by default. Of course, your own personal trust settings can be tweaked and in fact, you could exclude their rating, keeping a trust level of 0.

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In fact, I think I'll leave just a neutral for now.

for real ur idiot but nvm, life sucks i know.

posting in games and rounds doesnt mean ur a spammer, but nvm that's your brain stuff. i don't threaten the forum, just this guy, lauda.

that's ur biggest problem my time zone. But what if i tell you i am from arizona, us and i do live in other time zone? huh? surprise idiot

we're  going off topic again

As a campaign manager he is right to blacklist you if he see you spamming or doing post bursting. I think you got the red flag because you challenge him that you'll create new accounts to see how spam works. I got banned also in one of his campaign but i didn't whined, i only ask him once or twice to re-review my account and when he review i am not still eligible to get unbanned still i understand and i didn't whine and challenge him, so if you will check my account i am still banned but i don't have a red trust. I can't join his campaign but i can still trade and post the same. I think you can settle this negative trust someday, also be polite.

Lauda is a known Liar and extortionist.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/duplicates/5pbgr3/bitcointalk_staff_member_lauda_is_attempting_to/

Do Not Trust!!!!

* This Disclaimer will now follow all of its posts to protect the unaware. *

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Still have a red trust just because this user thought i have some alts, but here were no proofs.

Maybe my last night attitude wasn't the best but I desearve to find any proof that are agaisnt me.

Lauda goes around hitting people with Fake Negative Feedback , once my lawsuit against Lauda begins, I will put up a post for anyone else that wants to take part.
It has nothing to do with you personally.  She is just corrupt and would have been permabanned herself if she was not close friends with the mods.


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FYI:
She is a known Liar & Extortionist.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/duplicates/5pbgr3/bitcointalk_staff_member_lauda_is_attempting_to/

Wrong. Stop trying to twist the story. You were neg. rated for abusing Bitmixer and subsequently for threatening me both privately and publicly. It has nothing to do with alts.

Proof has been posted in this thread and you've admitted to doing it anyways.

There you have it, actmyname. This guy is learning to be the next Satoshi by spamming Games & Rounds. ::)

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Until you get some proper sense and manners (start by not calling other people idiots and threatening them), we have nothing to talk about. I have removed this thread from my watch list.

Cheerio,
Cat.

You became idiot over night or this is the way you were borned this way?. First neg trust I got for having alts. You blocked me on PM, just because you want. Yes I threatened and it is not fair? Why it isn't fair?

Now you wanna play it cool just leaving this out of your watchlist?

Can you explain again what I got a red trust? I still don't see the reason.


After that when you figure out you're wrong you took out the card with I threatened you. And after all of this you're saying that I abused bitmixer campaign. With what I abused actually? Making 13 posts in one hour and 40 minutes.

Amazing.

VINSIN: the give away abuser and spammer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135402.msg1875294#msg1875294
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201753.msg2143635#msg2143635
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200539.msg2143644#msg2143644
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204365.msg2143693#msg2143693
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182194.msg2143698#msg2143698
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191460.msg2143729#msg2143729

For sure 13 posts in almost 2 hours are a lot, but what about 6 in 10 minutes or whatever?

It does.  Games and rounds mostly contains annoying giveaways of tiny amounts to the sort of people who spend ten hours a day claiming dust from faucets.
Threatening Lauda will mean that she's annoyed at you and other people would rightly think that you're not trustworthy.  Since Lauda's on the default trust list, her trust will give you a red mark and people will be less inclined to do deals with you.

So basically, it doesn't matter whether you've threatened the forum.  The forum hasn't punished you.  You've threatened Lauda, so Lauda has punished you.  Simple.

Ok, I may be agree with the fact that is normal to get a red trust for that message. But look on total point of view what happened? Why I did that? How she reacted?

Dudes Why should I beg a DT to remove my red trust that is giving for non sense? I mean your a DT because you're over other people as trust and bla bla.


When a fucking idiot -lauda- comes and give a red trust for absolutely no reason I need to beg to have deleted my red trust? What forum is this? I don't want to leave, I want to celebrate 10 years of bitcointalk.org with this account.


as a reminder here are the rules of trust on this forum:

Nice job intentionally cutting out this part:


Guidelines, not rules. Don't be an idiot.

As well as what actmyname just said, note:

If Lauda suspects you of putting several accounts into Bitmixer to spam, that's to do with you as a person more than the quality of your posts.  Therefore, even the guidelines would permit this negative trust.

It's obvious that trust should not be moderated as it's open to abuse.  The Default Trust list is just a guideline of trusted users on the forum and you can choose to agree or disagree feedback from whatever users you like.  Doesn't stop their feedback from existing, just like a review.

I can give Lauda one more very strong reason why you deserve a neg rate and maybe move some others as well to neg rate you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084(VINSIN)

Accounts Connected:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084 (VINSIN)


Bazinga! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=921749)
christinalorine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833888)
1mGotRipped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897691)
77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892)
BadgeregdaB (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900400)


Proof of connection:

I have connected all the accounts via ref. links being posted for yabtcl giveaway.

VINSIN posts following unique yabtcl referral links to participate in giveaway:

https://yabtcl.com/?ref=8521(http://archive.is/0IL80)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=9227 (http://archive.is/PnYO0)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24349 (http://archive.is/qVNdY)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24565 (http://archive.is/G9o3Z)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24117 (http://archive.is/COvKu)


Now on searching it with forum search I get this ref. link connected to some of his alts account.

Bazinga! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=921749) posts ref. link of yabtcl in the same thread (http://archive.is/pPBg5)



christinalorine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833888) posts ref. link (http://archive.is/6Jcw9)



1mGotRipped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897691) posts ref link (http://archive.is/XCc2a)



77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) posts ref. link (http://archive.is/AjoMm)


BadgeregdaB (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900400) posts ref. link (http://archive.is/GvPUk)



Why you deserve more neg?

[1] Alternate account of loan defaulter (check feedback of christinalorine)



Why Lauda feedback is accurate?

Already proved up there^^ that you have so many accounts and all were involved in posting ref. links twice or thrice back to back or within short amount of time which shows what kind of spammer you are (giveaway spammer).

Lauda did a good work kicking you out of the campaign and adding you to SMAS.

This..this is how you drop a bomb on someone! Excellent work Avirunes. I have applied negative ratings to all those accounts.

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Update: Seems to be a mistake due to ref. spam. Some ratings need to get updated.

woke up this morning and boom i have negative trust and tagged as an Alt of this guy "VINSIN" which is not true not even associated with him. I only know him from this site "Bitvest" which i also play. 

please be fair and square on tagging people as an Alt. I am from Philippines and i believe that guy is not from here.
I dont violate any rules and i believe i dont deserve this

Either you are alts or one of you has purchased some accounts. Rules have nothing to do with this, and breaking forum rules is not sanctioned by trust ratings (rather bans for example). You've both used the same referral link which connects your accounts:

1mGotRipped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897691) posts ref link (http://archive.is/XCc2a)


if i can remember i ask him to post my ref at yabtcl so that i dont need to open the forum for the increase faucet for the game.
thats my only fault here. i dont deserve something like this. please be fair and square

1. im not an Alt, you can see the email that i have never change from the day my account was created on this forum. you can email me and i can verify you that this is my account
2. this is my only account. im a Filipino you can see my post there in Philippines thread

Isn't it *very convenient* that you asked this random user to post your ref? ::)

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because:
1) You post frequently in the Philiphines section, OP does not.
2) The General Statistics of both profiles seems to be somewhat different.

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I'll let Avirunes and/or others chime in before taking any action.

i been playing bitvest since last june 2016, most of the players there give their hand to help to post ref at yabtcl forum so that some of us dont need to open the forum for the faucet increase, well i already tell you the truth. god knows im innocent, the only think i can tell you is i dont deserve this but if this is your point of view okay good luck to you

Hmm. checked now and it seems like all the username 77kdub,christy,VINSIN,Bazinga! are mods at bitvest while I am unable to verify your username. I think that my proof has gone wrong following if you were doing something as you said in statement.

But I will still consider it as spam following multiple ref. links being posted one after another within very short amount of time like this:



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For the meantime I would say 77kdub, Bazinga! , christinalorine , 1mGotRipped , BadgeregdaB are clean.

Rating removed. FYI "god" doesn't exist and that's mambo jumbo equal to ancient voodoo magic. The closest things to a god that we have around here are Vod (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747) and the Flying Spaghetti Monster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster).

What does this mean now? Moderators spamming each others referral links? How did you found out that they are mods at Bitvest?

It matches their username. I was also a mod at Bitvest one time ago and left after that so I knew some out of them. Anyway that is not an important thing. You can check they are moderators in Bitvest>Help>Bitvest family

I think

77kdub=> 77kdub (Bitvest username) MOD
Bazinga!=> Bazinga (Bitvest username) MOD
christinalorine=> Christy! (Bitvest username) MOD
1mGotRipped=> not known till now
BadgeregdaB=> Badger (Bitvest username) MOD
VINSIN=> VINSIN (Bitvest username)



Well kind of. One already stated that he asked other guy to post his ref. link so I think it was same with others as well. But seriously spamming each others ref. link and being too lazy? Seriously  :-\

I don't have any idea what's going on here but I've done nothing wrong nowhere does it state you may only post one ref link per bct account for YABTCL giveaway I've posted for other users that didn't have bct accounts and asked if I would for them how is that spamming?

You've caused a lot of trouble and unnecessary work. Shame on you Psychorunes! :P

Which raises the question why Bitvest has this person as a mod as they have two negative ratings. That whole list is full of random people whom I should not even comment on for their own sake. ::)

This is a whole other and unusual way of ref. spamming on the forum.

Guess I should take it to my Personal Message  ;)

I stopped playing and posting my "own" ref link to yabtcl faucet thread for a month/s now, However , I am posting a ref link in behalf of my friend from bitvest, and posting ONCE a day on that thread isn't really spamming.


Next time,when you try to help someone, please make sure that you've done your research first (proofs/facts) before "accusing" anyone, ergo your provided reason was not really strong.

Thanks to whoever removed those unwarranted negative rating.

It was a valid proof until 1mGotRipped stated about you guys being posting reflinks like this which I haven't seen until now in giveaways.

I am not helping someone..It's for the sake of the community. If you expect another apology despite apologizing in personal chat then I apologize again. :)

Also I didn't accused anyone . I just linked it . Rest gets along with types of feedbacks connected to the alt. account.