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LIVE U Quality Ruptly is LIVE from London Bridge after a van reportedly hit pedestrians there, on the evening on Saturday, May 3. Armed police are reportedly on scene.

another 2 incidents in other locations too.

I know i smoke some good shit but your a month out ..So you need to tell the police they are to early ;)

As usual, the Muslim Council of Britain has come up with their usual statements. Harun Khan the Secretary General says that he is "appalled" and "angered" by the attacks. Seems like he had already prepared the statement before the attacks.

What is the reason of muslims to fight against salafi sect ISIS?

You are the alive example of stupid, a no body thinking himself as the center of the universe, if you weren't stupid then you should've known by now there are secret organizations working behind the curtain just to introduce Islam=evil, to make the sheep believe and runs for the hills when hear Muslim/Islam.
If you weren't stupid you would've never showed your ignorance and hatred to a religion with 2B believers and every day that number increasing and the community growing.
If you weren't stupid you would know that all people are equal in their rights of having freedom of choice to choose their religion.
But hey, since you are long lost and there is no returning for you and you will continue with you hatred, just watch out for our maker's wrath because when He strikes He'll do so in a way that you'll never see from where you'd got hit.

Followers growing = Number of terror attacks growing.

How does freedom of choice work out for muslims that convert to another religion? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy

In London, even the mayor is muslim.

What can you expect after that?

London citizens decided to be invaded, thus the city is basically becoming an Arab colony (like many other European cities).

If you still use fiat money donate to EDL - English Defence League: http://www.englishdefenceleague.org.uk/ (http://www.englishdefenceleague.org.uk/)

Hoping it won't be too late...

The Muslim community is totally dominating the whole of England and that's because they allow them to do whatever they like. They should impose stricter vigilance on the people so as to prevent these kind of things. Imagine if they had access to guns.

Just wait until the Muslim lover Jeremy Corbyn is elected as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. It is going to be open season against the non-Muslims in the UK. The latest opinion polls are predicting 308 seats for the Tories, 308 for the Labor-SNP alliance, 10 for the Liberal Democrats, and 23 for the minor parties such as Plaid Cymru. 

I saw the news on CNN, there was also several stabbing incidents.  :'(



True. There should be negative incentives to helping out terrorist. For example here in the Philippines, it was found out that the terrorist leader in the attack on an island in the Christian area turned out to be some sort of "Robin Hood" for his community back home on his island further south. No wonder they can't catch him - the community benefits from the ransom money he earns...

I think the UK still have a chance. They can probably revoke the citizenship of dual-citizens involved in terrorism (we can't do that here in the Philippines) and then expel them along with their family.

Jihadism is what support CIA/Pentagon in Syria - the war on legitime Government.

There is still the difference between salafi and muslims, big enough.
But someone in EU/USA media owners like not to explain where is the difference.

The entire Western world used to live in prosperity. People used that war is somewhere far away and therefore not adequately prepared to respond to threats to the modern world. Perhaps it is time to restore selected the British right to self-defence and be allowed to carry weapons for self-defense. Maybe then the killer will not feel so free.

You're jumping to conclusions way too fast and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
I'm not  Muslim myself but I highly respect every individual regardless of their religion.

First of all you need to understand isis. Isis is a group of frustrated sunnis who radicalized and basically (ab) use certain phrases (ripped out of context) of the quran to justify their terrorism. They aren't Muslims. They simply hate the West for what happened in 2003.

You can't simply criminalize a scripture that has been around for thousands of years just because your either not educated enough or lack the capability to interpret  ancient text.

And how are Muslims forcing their beliefs on others?

Based on your logic you should criminalize the Bible too since you'd find very similar phrases if you were to take them for the word without looking at the context.

I am doing a vacation in london this month.
It is a 5 star area but tell me where the muslim no go areas in london are. I will check it out.

Then stop calling salafits as "sunnis".

Please note that this attack occurred just a few days before the UK general elections. Perhaps this was an attempt by the secret services to boost the chances of the ruling party? Something fishy here.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/hUdZikjiXXS7u/giphy.gif

#prayforlondon #onelove #peaceandflowers #jihadistsarentmuslims #openborders #hillary2016

Noobs...

Okay so my first argument you attempted to counter wasn't about actually being able to criminalize the Islam. I was trying to say that you can't criminalize something you clearly don't understand. Since you completely missed the point I have no further commen

And from which reputable source did you get that information? I don't count Google in general as reputable. I highly doubt that would happen anywhere else but in Islamic state.

Again you missed the point I was trying to make. These people who are blowing themselves up are extremists and not Muslims I already said that. It has nothing to do with religion they're just trying to justify their terrorism.

Have you even met a Muslim in your life? Because their is a group of crazy frustrated redicalized extremists doesn't mean you need to ban the whole religion. That's the stupidest thing ever, that would only increase the terrorism. ISIS really doesn't care if you deport every single Muslim, they have the resources and they will get their extremists in the west. Boycott the oil they sell on the black market instead of trying to extinguish a religion.

Mark:

Fundamentalist christians are the same dont be a apologizer.
The lord resistance army in uganda are right now chopping hands from little kids and this isnt even the worst story...
They cut lips, breast, use kid soldiers. Raping is like drinking water there.

Good old testament.

Christianity in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia
Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship within private homes. Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.


But our government says it's ok we will still let you flood our lands with ISLAM CRAZIES..

I WONDER WHY? ::)..

What You will say about EU/USA/NATO supported Ethnic cleansing in Donbass area?
http://sledcom.ru/cases/item/1168/ (In Russian)

Regarding saudi arabia i agree on every point with you.
No weapons, no money for them and no oil from them because they are supporting extremist islam.

But tell that our .gov and industry.


About christians in muslim nations take bahrain for example. They are even working in the government.
Not every place is the same.

I would say it is Russian propaganda until i see concrete evidence.

The story of the extermination of the christians, jews and other faiths from arabian peninsula ins't well published. Because as you know before the quran revelation there was a lot of them... so from there was to there isn't, how?

http://sledcom.ru/cases/item/1168/ (In Russian)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_Committee_of_Russia

Check Youtube

It's not his fault. he didn't look at the direction of the refugee flow, nor understand that eurabia will not be imposed over russia for a few shekels or a few oil tankers, or simply language... serbia could be broken up, but not ukraine, nor lybia, syria or irak...

They can have hawaii... but crimea, cry me a river...

But this all story is very sad, war on the european continent among former brothers because no one was able in ukraine to do a putin long ago... corruption and a lack of the rule of the law is a deadly but slowly progressing venom... most will naturally double down.

No ready to give nuland family?

How about my good logic OR is it good logic?..

Why haven't we westerners just took the oil ;)..Why buy it?..

How about stringing them up and taking the oil..
WHO IS BUYING WHO'S WEAPONS ?..So who are the pow wow Indians us or them..

Give the SAUDI people 60% of the proceeds and we keep the rest  :D.

Well the kings only give the people 30% they keep the rest..GREAT DEAL .Learnt that off TRUMP :D.

And he said we should BLOW THE SHIT OUT OF THEM..

Oh i forgot he done a deal so they are looser's now..

And if you think i am wrong THEN WHY DID WE GO INTO IRAQ  :-\..

And why have we not got CHEAP OIL FROM IRAQ ?.

Like build the country back up and buy very cheap oil      IRAQ as oil ..

And we still can bulldoze all the mosques some ISLAMIC countries wouldn't even let you build a church.

Man let daughter drown rather than have strange men touch her ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East
10 Aug 2015 - The father of a 20-year-old woman who drowned in Dubai reportedly stopped ... His daughter ran into difficulty in the water on a Dubai beach..

It's not because you have good questions that you will get good answers:).

It seemed a good idea to pay with fiat oil that those receiving it would use to pay stuff made from oil. Supposing some wired sexual slavery bonus wouldn't seem too farfetched.

Anyway warpdrives will highly probably not be powered by oil...

Honestly this is just appalling. How will someone wake up one morning and make a decision to start killing people in the name of God? May God help us all as the world is totally going insane.

Perhaps they were a bunch of sexually frustrated young men, who were under the belief that they would get the 72 virgins in heaven if they murder infidels? It is all because of brainwashing. Stop the brainwashing, and attacks such as this one will never occur.

It seems this religion, aside from having a huge network of fundamentalists, also tend to attract the craziest kuffars. Just look at the Neo-Nazi guy who converted and then killed his Neo-Nazi friends who won't.

I can't see anything comparable in Christianity, Hinduism or Buddhism. I mean, Christians in Muslim-majority countries have every reason to launch terror attacks and start separatist movements. After all, they were the original inhabitants of those countries before Arabs and other Muslim ethnic groups came in and took the land by force.



I wish they do get what they wanted...   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dxpMTFBg48

Of course you can laugh at the primitive brain of Muslims, but it will not help to solve the problem of terrorism. Perhaps it is time to demand that governments recognise Islam as a hostile religion and prohibit any actions aimed at supporting or promoting the religion.

I don't see why it couldn't be dropped as a religion entirely.

Ah, yes you certainly can criminalize something you "don't understand."

We do it all the time.

You might want to reverse that, and tell the Jihadists they "can't blow things up they don't understand."

See how far you get with that, buddy.

I don't think the religion should be criminalized, but support for extremism and terrorism should.
There's an easy way out of this:
-if you get caught showing support for terrorism anywhere, like on forums, social media whatever, and you're an immigrant = immediate deportation
-if you get caught planning or helping a terrorist attack = jail and deportation of your relatives
-if you commit any serious crime and are a migrant = jail for you and deportation for your relatives

All tough measures For the Arabs in Europe are very correct. Any movement towards suspicious people should be punished by deportation with a lifelong migration ban for all relatives. It would not hurt to establish such a law around the world. Concerning Islam, Faith can be correct, but different people interpret it in different ways. Particularly delirious habitation is presented by more radical Islamists.

If we take such stringent measures to the Muslims, the defenders immediately start screaming about the fact that in Europe, again emerging fascism. They do not offer ways how to defeat Muslim terrorism, their task for any reason to criticize the government. And Muslims will immediately pretend to be poor and unhappy and will tell their harassed.

It's time to tell the screaming ninnys and pantywaisted metrosexual losers to fuck off.

Then handle the problem. It can be done.

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/06/03/counter-terror-lessons-from-americas-civil-war/
“The way to win the war is to frighten the larger community of Muslims who passively support terror by action or inaction–frighten them so badly that they will inform on family members. Frightening the larger Muslim population in the West does not require a great deal of effort: a few thousand deportations would do.”

The deportations would invoke "due process," meaning those to be deported would lawyer up. The solution to that is a state of martial law if needed, get the assholes out of the country. If the current majority on the supreme court will do the job without the martial law, then so be it.

Let's have front pages of Muslims that wouldn't renounce terrorism being kicked out, and people cheering at the sight of them being kicked out.

It's a mistake to think too long and hard about it, and to try to split hairs. The reason is that Islam has purposefully made this distinction hard to make, so that you are unsure what to do. It's a problem of their own making, not of yours or mine.

I doubt that anything like that will happen in the near future. The current culture of political correctness and the victim-card playing by the Muslims will prevent any concrete measures being implemented by the governments.

That's why people keep calling them cucked. Save for Iberia, Western Europeans have long forgotten about Islamic incursions into Europe. They didn't have the same experience as Eastern Europeans.

Muslims have not forgotten though. They look back to the time when the Caliphate was expanding through conquest as the Golden Age of Islam. The Crusades are twisted to be seen as an unjust attack from Christians. European colonialism is portrayed as evil of the West even  though Muslims have basically been doing the same prior to Europeans advancing enough to be able fight back.


They're opposite sides of the same coin. An Islamist want to impose Sharia on you. A "moderate" Muslim want an Islamist to impose Sharia on you. Religion and politics is the same in Islam. Islam pervades every aspect of society.

Classic white supremacist. Please don't be so ignorant. I'm not trying to defend the terrorists here. They have nothing to with the Islam as a religion other than abusing it to justify their crimes. I also don't think they would be that reasonable since they're RADICALIZED EXTREMISTS (and not Muslims for the record).

And using your logic why did the west go out of their home lands to kill and enslave millions of people from africa, Asia and South-America for their own own monetary gain? Compared to the destruction and extinction that the West has caused over the course of history ISIS is peanuts.
Good luck with that dude.

What about the Iberians? They are the biggest importers of Muslim immigrants nowadays. Just check how many Moroccans have been granted residential permit in Spain, during the past 10 years. The Western Europeans are more concerned about Kim Kardashian, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus.etc. They are not much bothered about their own future.

Are you seriously suggesting that the >30,000 Islamic terror attacks and suicide bombings since 9/11 are not the work of Muslims?

And you forget that the victims and the people fighting ISIS are mostly muslim.

Exactly, only a fraction of all these terrorist attacks were carried out in the west. The most victims are Muslims trying to live in peace in their country. That's why I don't get all this hatred against the average Muslim. I highly doubt either of you (who had those extreme ideas to criminalize the Islam) have actually met a Muslim and talked with them in person. At least where I live there are modern Muslims who just want to reside here peacefully and make a living.

Let's go over this again. Yes, a country or state or city can "criminalize something they don't understand." We simply don't have to understand why a murderer murders to state that it's a crime.

Apparently you really are trying to claim that the 30,000 attacks since 9/11 by Muslims are not the work of Muslims?

I do think that why this evil find their way among humanity. The people, terrorists are killing are those they have never seen before, they never offend them, and Most especially people that have helped them one way or the others especially, in charity donations to help humanity.

So tell me, why do those Muslim bombers bomb other Muslims every single month? Wouldn't that be a little contraproductive if you're trying to strive for a domination where Muslims rule the world with the sharia law? So could you please for once counter my argument if you're trying to have a discussion here? 

Sure, happy to.

The reason Muslims bomb other Muslims every day is that there are a bunch of sects of Muslim wackos and each sect thinks it's the only True Muslims.

That Muslims want to take over the world does not mean that all Muslims agree on who the Main Guy Running the World Caliphate is going to be.

You are saying that islam is a terrorist religion which contradicts your past post with youtube videos from  "good" muslims who condem for example certain sharia laws etc pp.

I don't even see how you can conclude what you've said from my bolded section. Nothing new in that, it's called "reframing the argument." Usually done because you want to move the discussion, but if you want to do that, just do it. Like one could say "Separate from the above, let me ask (or say) ..."

Let's go at this another way. I'm going to write two sentences down and you just say if you think they are true.

The reason Muslims bomb other Muslims every day is that there are a bunch of sects of Muslim wackos and each sect thinks it's the only True Muslims.

That Muslims want to take over the world does not mean that all Muslims agree on who the Main Guy Running the World Caliphate is going to be.

They don't intentionally bomb the other Muslims. Their main aim is to murder the non-believers. The Muslim casualties are treated as collateral damage. Take the recent Kabul bombing as an example. The attackers were targeting the German embassy. But they could not reach that far, and were forced to explode while being surrounded by the Afghans.

That's not entirely true. The main reason is about interpretation. Religion is all about interpretation. Members of ISIS are brainwashed to have a very extreme interpretation of texts ripped out of their context. Since a lot of Muslims strongly disagree with them they ISIS Bombs them while the others are trying to live in peace.

The way we can kill isis is actually pretty easy. Theoretically speaking. We just have to get rid of our oil usage. If we can replace the oil usage with green solutions we cut of their main income. No need to ban the Islam, if no one wants oil anymore they're done.
1. It's good for the environment
2. We finally get rid of that scum and can move on with our lives

But that's easier said than done.

Islamic terror is not just ISIS, they are just one of hundreds of Islamic terror groups.

As for your green thing, as far as what good has been done in lowering oil revenue to the middle east, you can thank American frackers for that...

But it was too late. The Wahhabi indoctrination started in the 1980s and continued until the oil prices crashed in 2014. By then, almost all of the moderate Islamic nations (Indonesia, Bangladesh, Turkey, Bosnia.etc) have been converted in to orthodox Islamist strongholds.

Along with that "conversion" the suicide and terror bombings seem to have arrived, doesn't it?

You got more chance of getting knocked over by a car..

No really you got more chance of getting knocked over ..

London terror attack victim died after being knocked into Thames - Metro
metro.co.uk › UK › Parliament terror attack
13 Apr 2017 - London terror attack victim died after being knocked into Thames, inquest ... 'After fighting for her life for over two weeks, our beloved and .

Told you so ^^

If Europe is so liberal about Arabs and refugees, in general, such cases will be permanent in the peaceful cities of Europe. How can one expect good from those who, in essence, hate the civilized world.

What you can expect is bitching and moaning from these very haters, once the pushback starts. They're the victims, it's so unfair, the Western world is so cruel and evil. Then you'll hear the apologists start yapping about the killings and cruelty the Western world did (during the pushback) and they'll conveniently leave out the causes.

All a pack of lies for the benefit of Islam. Takiyya.

No one is expecting anything good from these people. Once the family reunifications start, each one of these refugees are going to bring a further 20-30 of their family members. Then the fun will start. This is the end of the European Union. The Brits were intelligent, so they got out of it early.

It awfully to see that was created in London. My condolences native and near lost.