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Have high hopes for both of these as do many people.
They have a similar circulating supply.
I see both hitting $100 within a year - which do you guys think will hit first?

 :)

A lot of development for both in the next 3 months.

I say stratis will hit $100 closely followed by waves at around $60-$80.

Once DEX is as good as polo waves will pass stratis

For me its better to buy waves coin because I see the poetntial of this coin. Even stratis is good I will pick waves. Like today waves have siganture that is one of the good news because they advertise the waves coin to spread it and if the investor see waves coin and they have interest to invest the price for sure will increase. But it depends to you what coin is better for you.

Sure, I can see both of these hitting $20. That's about it.

I can see both hitting at least $50 some time this year and right now I would invest in Waves as it's the cheaper of the two but I think an even amount spread across the two will make investors some good profit in the long term as I believe these two are good long term projects.

I will vote for stratis, based on the icostats.com and stratis has amazing chart rather than waves itself. remember the price of stratis at the crowdsale was nothing. But i think stratis will be the winner.
Stratis has a lot of potential rather than waves.

I think Stratis is great, but Waves will be one of the key players in crypto. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm never wrong  :)

I am a bit sceptical about Waves and Stratis.
Lets look at waves: decentralized exchange, decentralized voting, encrypted messenger etc. As I know it isnt unique and other coins made it before.
But maybe I'm wrong?
For example, you writing that Waves have good potential and it will be one of key players in crypto.
So can you explain, why?

although i am studying stratis now (so am not in the position to add some comments on that one yet) waves has managed to deliver what the devs have promised and without big problems i have to say. their goal is mass adoption and business oriented ; this will be the key to their success. they are targeting among others a rather underdeveloped market in terms of blockchain (russia) and some of their upcoming features are novel ideas. look at it as a package not as a single coin. my 2 cents.

waves and stratis is good if you hold for longterm
and both will hit that point but maybe in different time ,,
some people say stratis will hit that point 1st, but in my mind waves will hit that point before stratis

I also believe Waves will overtake Stratis at some point. The next couple of days will see Waves hit new heights in my opinion.
Maybe 7 dollars will be hit sometime this week if we are lucky.

i dont believe 100USD is too far a stretch within a year. It will be close imo.

Yes I agree that we could see $7 very soon as this is one crypto that has been performing well even when a lot of others are falling. I also think $100 isn't out of the question however I just don't see it happening this year, maybe $50 sometime this year but I think we'll see $100 in 2018 for Waves and also for Stratis.

Yes sorry. I meant a year from now. So by next June. But I wouldnt be suprised if it happens before.
I agree it has been quite impressive how Waves has maintained its price.
I also think Stratis could reach 100USD within a year (by next June).
It will be a close race and one I will be looking at quite closely lol.

Doesn't really matter which one hits first. Hodl both. Easy $

Both are great projects.  $100 dollars would make many people very happy.   

Both are good projects but to me the main difference is that the Waves team always overpromises and underdelivers to the point of being ridiculous. The Stratis team on the other hand always deliver as good or better as they promise without any unecessary hype.

The two of them are very good projects and the possibility of investing is very high. Both will come to good places. The waves are affecting me. Even in a stock exchange it keeps its price. Waves will be $ 100 in 1 year and will not upset the investor. It is not investment advice.

They don't overpromise, all the stuff is delivered. Peoples are just not patient and want everything NOW.
Sasha is also doing a lot of stuff he's not speaking about ... like he did today:


And if you check this guy lasts posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=230178;sa=showPosts
You'll see all the crazy amount of work he done the past week ...

Waves and Stratis are both different. Both are spectacular anyway.

I believe that both of  coin have a good potential even in long term investment we can expect  more increase on price in this year . We cannot under estimate each coin both have a good development in the past month.  

Yeah you got the point.
The major difference between Stratis and Waves is the funds on the ICO. Waves was overbought (30k btc) and Stratis underbought (900 btc ?).

Waves hit new high today..

Waves looks to be pumping higher than Stratis. In my view both are good for a long term investment because right now the value is low and the in between price jumps will surely cause a big growth in later years.

I mean I think you're wrong here (IDK about WAVES, but I'll refer to STRAT for this one). Roadmap is so huge for STRAT: https://stratisplatform.com/2017/05/12/stratis-developers-roadmap-and-update-june-2017/
The Breeze Wallet (assuming it's not complete shit) alone will make this go to $12? The hype is insane around this coin right now. Granted, it's getting corrected right now quite a bit (down $2-$3 from peak) but it's already gotten so high of a valuation based on nothing. If the devs pull through, I don't see how it doesn't double your "$20." I would love to hear counter-arguments if you have any?


I mean STRAT hit $12 the other day, it's just correcting. As I stated above, it's only based off of hype right now. Literally nothing has happened, nor been released - so it's interesting/amazing as to what has already happened thus far. Hopefully all goes as planned w/ future releases!

These two are my biggest investments (https://altpocket.io/user/Speakmore) right now and I'm riding it out hoping they both get up a lot. Big things for STRAT this month, looking for the hype to be proven correct.

waves will go higher during summer. Becouse of tokenomica.com start.

Both the coins look pretty strong in terms of price and popularity , another strange thing is that stratis has more market cap than monero , and on other hand waves is just after monero. If you plan to invest i would prefer going for waves as stratis has recently been pumped , so another pump doesn't seem it's gonna hapoen

starat he decline.Will it rise soon ???

Stratis is on the way down while Waves is on the way up, could people be selling Stratis and investing it all in Waves? As that's what it looks like to me, Waves was the one I invested more into as I believe it has more upside in price and was cheaper then Stratis so I went with waves over Stratis but like I have been saying I also believe Stratis will also be worth investing some BTC into as well.

both are 100$ coins

both excellent projects stratis got a major pump so it will correct for a few days waves will follow strat in the same pattern but both will grow to 100

Waves is a kind of long term investment asset, and it's not for short time or daily speculation. Now the platform is getting more popularity and used by many new projects as token assets.
I choose Waves even stratis hits $100 first.

i agree with you but i still choose waves and stratis because i see both have a good projects although i am not following them since beginning and i only doing trade with both coins. i see that the two coins have a chance to going up later but for me, i think i will hold it for a long term as i want to see the project works best.

stratis. Is it possible to rise soon?. I got it from 318k.I am very harmful.  ??? ??? :-\

No worries, Strat will rise again! If it goes down under 250k sats I will increase my position, this coin is so undervalued (if we compare Strat with a lot of altcoin).

And Waves, well I think Waves will be the best buy in this year. I see a lot of potential, hold till end of 2017 and get your profit!

If someone knew how the market will go now, he will be very rich. Such a collapse is very profitable for buying a coin.   :) :)

Yes, the stratis will have the possibility to get the next pump. Just keep your coin and you will see the next pump in short time. More people are FOMO stratis in this time. That means a good opportunity to save your stratis for longterm.

Just check out the speed and stability of the Stratis platform, holding long term.

For me, Stratis and Waves are two excellent investments for the medium and long term, Stratis is in a period of correction! Normal! Those who are in the two will benefit from their respective projects!

A good time to average the price. You can buy well.

I'm genuinely curious as to why you say it's undervalued? Can you please further your statement, it's pretty bold.

STRAT is being corrected. If you believe the project has a future (it likely does, hence why it was pumped so high in the first place) then buy into it once it hits bottom as it'll likely never be cheaper than that again.

WAVE I'm not sure. Although it's seen decent growth lately, it's also been going sideways. It could break either way so it's hard to say if an investment (now, at this moment) is wise or not. I know personally I don't like its NXT roots, but I have to admit it will likely be a great performer in the future.

I cannot say anything about the first one to reach to $100, but i can easily say that in long term Waves will be the main currency in this fiels when we see reactions of waves to the real investments and projects.

Stratis will be the to hit 100 usd.

when?

Both are plunging right now.  Theyve been pumped crazy and is correcting right now. Perfect time to get in.

Both coins have great potential.
Maybe they can compete with Ethereum in future.
Everyone can build apps and other things on these platforms.
From the advertising perspective waves is better than Stratis.

I totally agree with you.
Maybe it is a good opportunity for buying stratis.
Both will rock soon.

Didn't STRATIS just drop from 10 to 7 or something like that?

Yes, STRAT is currently down 17.28% (24 hours) and now at $7.15 USD.

WAVES is currently down 14.53% (24 hours) and now at $5.97 USD.

Thinking about jumping in and investing in both, especially if they can get up to $50-$100 range the ROI can be pretty good.

As far as "Waves vs. Stratis" ... I'm liking WAVES better personally.

I have a strong feeling that stratis will be the first to hit $100 compared to waves. I know some peole would disagree with me

Waves is better than stratis even stratis are good coin also but I like waves . This coin have big future and I believe the price of this coin will increase more in the next year because many investor for sure will invest. So its better to buy waves now if you want more profit I suggest to buy waves and also stratis for sure if statis up you can earn a also profit if the waves is up its the same. Dont invest that you cant afford to lose.

Waves for me. But invest small percentage on Stratis too

I am more interested in investing in Waves. Because, I think Waves is very innovative, glad to see Waves growing above 200ksat.

Can someon [explain/i] why they prefer one coin to another? Just saying "I think this is a 100$ coin" doesn't tell me anything

stratis is back on the grind again  8) perfect time to get in!

breeze wallet for stratis should be dropping june 30th. expect another great run  ;)

Stratis is better than waves,to much scam in the weaves and the team of weaves ignore the guys' feel which join this scam ICO project!

I see a good future waves. The only thing that needs the waves is good news. Then the waves will be pumped to the moon.

As a new investor Stratis is what interested me in the altcoins to begin with. It was the first one that I learned about and I'm holding some now hoping for the best.

Well its currently looking like Stratis will be first to 100 but knowing crypto I wouldn't be surprised if Waves suddenly jumped up several times its value. Holding both of these coins is the right way to go.

Spot on - Waves hit 7USD albeit short lived. I think this week will see some nice gains - lets see  :)

Both good projects, Waves FTW. I have invested in both.

I chose both. From stratis i have achieved considerable trading profits at this time. Extraordinary price increases on both provide fresh air for holders like me.

Waves and stratis will be both 100 usd within months i think.

It looks like it will happen if you look at potential of both coins,although at this time price of coin has not touched that level.

I don't know much about wave but I have been trading stratis for some time now and the coins look prominent and has a great support based to me. During my trading experience I have seen this coin increased 200% and have it market capitalization double within a week.

Stratis market Is so amazing this past months and day since it gains pretty huge price for now and I Can't even imagine on what would be the price on it in near future since the volume get by it is so huge aswell as its ranking on market cap jumps faster into 9 spot and im so sure that their are more good happenings unto it since + flactuating movements are still occuring on it right now...

I can see both hitting at least $50 some time this year and right now I would invest in Waves because waves is cheaper from stratis but I think an even amount spread across the two will make investors some good profit in the long term.

I'd go for waves, though both are a work in progress and they are progressing too but I weighed it more in the waves coin.

I pick the waves even their price is almost break even I think waves has a potential in market. Moreover​, I can't lose hope that in the following days or months value of waves were started to raise up.

do you think that the high price not bubble?
I believed that the financial is a process which create bubble and break bubble!

I think wings maybe an better choose than those！
weaves focus lots of scam ICO
stratis has a big bubble in this short time!

Posting this, you are comparing onions with oranges... makes me wonder if you really looked into what they are.

As far as Waves goes, it could coexist with Bancor, but Bancor could overshadow it as well.
Stratis is beautiful in my opinion.

Dunno about $100 but both have the potential and probably will go much higher than their current price withing 1 year.

I didnt say they were comparable outside of circulating supply and the potential price.

What are you on about? wings? This topic is about waves and stratis, go open a wings topic.
Weaves focus lots of scam ICO? You make 0 sense buddy.
Are you mad you have no Waves or Strat? Still not to late to buy you know, buy now or regret in 2-3 months.

I don't think any of these coins will hit $100 within a year because both of them are under $10 right now and none of them were above $11 ever. But if you ask me I would go for Waves because it is traded on 40+ exchanges while Stratis is presented on only 11. I think people who run exchanges know better than me which coin is better.

https://www.quora.com/Excluding-Bitcoin-Dash-and-Ethereum-what-are-the-five-crytocurrencies-you-would-advise-your-loved-ones-to-buy-and-hold-for-2-3-years/answer/Shaun-Biggs?share=207357d0

Waves already has a functional platform with the DEX working. Plenty more work to be done but the product is out of the door unlike 99% of the altcoins that are big on promises but don't even have a working POC.

A decentralized exchange could really be a huge market with big money in the making. None of the centralized exchanges can be trusted with our money and the risk of getting hacked is always there.

I know Stratis is targeting the corporates but I don't know how it will work out long term. If I am not sure of the fundamentals, I won't put my money into it and Stratis is no exception.

When should Waves get listed on Poloniex? Why hasn't it yet...

Waves being a decentralized exchange itself is a competitor to Poloniex. That is the biggest reason why and Sasha's outburst against Polo later on didn't help matters either.

Nice info on the number of exchanges that both are listed. But if I'm going to choose between the 2, I will go with Waves as well, right now is the best time to buy on it, still under valued but the possibility that the price will increase is very likely. We need to get it now and hold before it soars in the future.

I have to buy waves and wait till the end of the year. I expect Waves to make 2x, 3x until the end of the year.

Waves is refueling atm, we might see a spike soon.
Target is 340k

I bought it from 66 and am very sorry to have sold it from 77. He rose while waiting for his fall. The money is connected to the other sub zones. I'll buy them right away

After reading into both projects, I am also just waiting for the good moment to get in. Should be soon hopefully...and then just some patience and the easy money will come in :)

I just bought more Waves today...I think the price will explode one day overnight to 10-15EUR short term....but long hold we'll see 100$.

Waves is one of the most promising coins

I've got both a fair ammount of waves & Stratis, I think they're both great platforms but personally I like Stratis a bit more

Why do you think this? There are some news on the project that lost? I'm waiting the new DEX (to remove some issues) but I think in this phase the price will be steady.
I agree with you for the long term, 100$ is a realistic goal for this excellent project.

Because the price is stabile for a few weeks, there was a lot of accumulation and the price is still cheap because it has 20x chance to grow. When the new dex comes and tokenomica we'll see some huge rise in price.

I think waves will hit 100 dollars first within year because as of now waves is more.popular compared to stratis .  Stratis is good coin also they have potentia to increase. So its better to buy waves coin and stratis to make a lot of profit.

Waves is superior to stratis even stratis are great coin likewise however I like waves . This coin have enormous future and I trust the cost of this coin will expand more in the following year in light of the fact that numerous speculator for beyond any doubt will contribute. So its better to purchase waves now in the event that you need more benefit I propose to purchase waves and furthermore stratis without a doubt if statis up you can acquire an additionally benefit if the waves is up its the same profit

The stratis will be more reasonable to invest in. The stratis gives a lot of the profit for the holders. But i didn't find something is useful in my opinion for the public users. I will need to take the more reasearch about it.

Waves is currently lower priced than Stratis so a better buy. Both seem good long-term
buy and hold coins.

https://twitter.com/hitbtc/status/874957970349727744
stratis will be added to hitbtc in a few days!

Both are in a down trends now.
I think it is a very good time to buy both.
Stratis has one of the best technology in cryptocurrency.
Waves has decentralized exchange.
Stratis and waves will go up for sure.

Waves vs Stratis sound like a comparision thread title, however tech of two are different. It would be more applicable decision to compare Stratis against Ethereum. However, if we look into their market values, then they are both in negative trend lately. So, as others stated it would be a good investment, if both decide to go up and reach where they left and maybe go further. I've invested some funds to stratis.

With Waves at its current price, I decided to go with them - with the LpoS it means you earn more without having to have the wallet open etc which helped to sway me that way.

There is extremely low chance that this coins will hit 100$ this year, 11$ was HUGE for stratis. I would suggest you to wait a bit and then start buying around 2$ each.

I dont think wait 2 dollars befire buying stratis I think its better to buy stratis now because the price maybe will become high. I have stratis also and i have also waves . Its better if you have this two kinds of altcoins and for sure you will earn a lot of money in the future. Buy more waves and stratis and wait the price until they reach 100 dollars after that sell it. Dont waste time dont wait for the increasing price .

In my opinion it will not go to 2$.
Because it has showed lots of support.
It may go to 20-30$ in this year.

Stratis is now at $2.48 and Waves at $2.75. Hitting $2 is very much on the cards. It sucks that I bought near the ATH but I am doing by best to average down by buying more now. These are solid projects that should go up again when the bulls take charge.

yeah right better to buy more while the value really moving down and I guess like what you have said when the bull start to run the price will go up
again meeting or beating the ath and it will generate more profits for those who believes.

I hope waves will hit market 100$ first because of its ability create smart contract on waves platform even there is lots of ICO will happen in waves in future currently waves and straits almost 2$ + having same growth.

Volume on Stratis is going up up up

I always support for waves it's ability and got huge capital from ICO and also I think waves is the platform going to give competition for ethereum .after some time there will be huge Ico going to happen in waves.

I'm holding waves and also will invest a bit more into it... maybe also into ans, golem,...

Just bought into Waves. Price is great. Make a Waves Wallet and have a question: is the Waves Wallet safe? Ive not seen the 2FA function and it seems that I don't hold the key to the wallet.

Can anyone advise?

It is safe.

In the top right hand corner theres a backup. Please save that.


I wish i could add Antshares to this thread.

These 3 are great investments imo.

Waves vs Stratis vs Antshares - my pick for best investments of the year starting now

:-)

I believe all three of these platforms all graduated (ICO) from Class of 2016 (Spring-Summer). Should be interesting to see which will reach to the top 3-5 first.

Im invested in all 3 but waves seems to bring more news and updates over Stratis as well as forming partnerships - I think Waves will win this race.
We know when news is released or due to be released about Antshares/Neo the price moves and moves fast. When they release new updates in the future you will definitely want to be invested already.
They are rebranding in a couple of weeks I think. There may be quite a surge followed by a dump shortly after  ;D

Stratis has absolutely nothing yet and has been all hype so far, but I'm very optimistic for Q4 where things will supposedly really kick off for them.
Waves is already a functional platform.

Actually I invest in waves because I beleive it will pump its price this year. But Im also thinking of stratis it has also a good coin. I will observe these two, hoping I can earn profit on waves.

I've seen the backup possibility, thanks. Will make a backup.

Is it possible for the Waves company to take all my coins and run (like Poloniex/Kraken etc. can do)? I was told it's important that I am the only one to hold the private key.

Also, do you know if there is a 2FA security mode available for the Waves wallet?

2FA in the Future

No 2FA yet on Waves lite wallet. But they plan to add it.
However it doesn't prevent you to protect your seed.

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both is good has decent community and marketcap, both also used for ico especially waves, many ico use it..

So now we have come so far in calling something good when it can be used as a scam/ico platform. Just great. Madoff 10.0 Era

Best to have holdings in both STRATS and WAVES. Diversifying into both will help you to stay in peace. I hold both in equal quantities in my long term portfolio. Missed out on Waves ICO. But I got into Strats during its ICO itself and haven't sold any.

If you think about profit then doesn't matter if it is scam or whatever, as long people are willing to pay more than the price you bought.

Where can I buy both of these coins for USD? On which exchange? ???

hold both, both have big plans and huge potential of earnings in long term

If I choose too much money to invest for a while? As you say, its value has reached $ 50 so it will continue to increase or lower? Long-term investment is good, but how much profit do you make in relation to short-term investment?

Both stratis and waves are crap imho. Worthless empty shells to fill the pockets of the owners

I'm buying both coins on this dip. I have high expectations for these coins. I see both in the top 10 next year.

Waves has a lot of potential. It's the first coin I took out of the exchange and have been enoying lending and the wallet eversince. Don't know that much about stratis...

Can anyone explain what lending is and how it works?

Im holding both of these - Even if one goes to $10 in the future and the other crashes, your still up double profits.

in the wallet is above  a button.... leasing...... you can 7 days Leasing your Waves. 2 or 1200 does not matter

In my opinion waves more prospective than stratis, waves provide token creation same as ethereum and i think this is key for waves to hit higher price

I bought 250pcs, we'll see at the end of the year what the result will be.

Waves and Stratis Both coin will hit up to 20-30$. Because
 Now Coin market in RED, When Market will Rise thous coin price will be up.

I think waves will be a better investiton in future. Stratis isn't bad too but I'd choose Waves.

Look out whom you give your money to --》》 waves CEO  https://youtu.be/XC1sPozgmpA

What a crap!!!!!

It's just total madness that there are topics where people have trust in things like waves. Really total madness

Lol have you moved from 4chan now to Bitcointalk with this bullshit..non stop same shit talk...don't know how you don't get tired. Waves are great and will have great future...Sasha is a hardworking dev and Waves are making  some crazy big things and more to come..

Every rational person should have a look at this interview and listen to the content. The questions asked, the answers given.

https://youtu.be/XC1sPozgmpA

It's utter madness that we let these scammers (same for most other icos and altcoins) suck every dollar out of our pockets for 0 in return. Or if you only speculate you won' t care...but then please don' t try to rationalize things in ways as if anything usefull other then perpetual bubble and burst cycles will be generated by something like waves. Madoff 10.0

"We let those scammers..." do what? Prey on your greed and lack of self-control and due diligence?
Come off your high horse, the reason why you're so salty is because you invested and lost. Someone cashed in on your greed and apparent lack of control.
And perpetual bubble and burst cycles? When has it never been one form of circle or the other? If we should go by your rationalization, everything's a scam - and of course it is! It's capitalism! One man's gain is another man's lose. If you can't deal with it, what are you doing round this "speculative" corner in the first place?

Not salted. Bought at 1 euro sold at 5.50. But that was before I realized the massive scams that are going on. My message is not for speculators who rightly give shit about the underlying shit or scam, but to the people that seriously think that something like waves,  EOS, pilar, tezos will bring something new to the world.

And yes...I'm rather for genuine ideas with no profit than waves like scams that destroy the space.

I do respect your honesty. You at least give your perspective as others just try to lure other people into the multi level marketing crap.

I can agree with you that few crypto bring anything new to the table. It's mostly FUDs, FOMO, pumps and dumps. Very few cryptos have real-world applications and that is what I look for when I'm buying to hold long term.
Virtually all alts have been accused one being one form of scam or the other - dash, steem, monero, eth, etc (pun intended). Some have proven to be scam - onecoin, leocoin, billioncoin. If waves crashes in five years, then it crashed. But five years is like eternity in crypto.

If Waves really is scam project, I can sure not only Waves, all cryptocurrency (Bitcoin & Altcoin) can be scam.
When this future is true, it just is a market in short time for attract investor know blockchain and potential of  blockchain on the world's. A product for PR technology blockchain

Exactly what I said.
If a scam is defined as someone making a run with investors money, then waves and other cryptos are not, because we are not investors, we're buyers - buying a product. ICOs, on the other hand, is where investors flock to - investing into potentials

Waves....  i think its scam coin  ???

Nonstop landing.

There is no minimum support

100 percent fall in 10 days   for sure to 0.0005 next days

Here you most likely bend. The fall to August 1 will be for all kriptovalyut, associated with bitcoin and the withdrawal of a huge amount of cash from exchanges.

Hello. It is very interesting to listen to people's opinions. But for me, it's more priority to me than Waves

Waves wins vs.  The project is moving solidly.Team working

More opinions on this topic? ::)

I'm holding both coins.

i prefer waves but i hold both long term, i like the waves online Wallet and the Exchange i think its still undervalued and can have a big future ( both of them )

Waves and Stratis have both taken a beating price wise.

Waves has come out with lots of updates and partnerships - I think it will be a must have coin for the next couple of years. I think it will be hot with loads of things in the pipeline.
I am on the fence about Stratis. We will see down the line. There is a lot of hype.

Sadly I guess these coins have been a little overshadowed by NEO but I am sure they will have their time.

NEO is a destroyer - it moves fast and by the end of the year it will be a life changer for those that invested lol.

Waves is just in a lull, because of NEO as was mentioned. It has many sucessful ICOs already, and the development is active, it's so new and the dex isn't even at 1.0 yet, so as long as it's over 100k it's still doing good. Seems everyone is trying to copy Eth, neo is just the china version, but every day I see a new ico for a new type of eth, based on eth blockchan. Waves is on it's own, totally unique with many features eth doesn't.  Stratis doesn't really have anyone using their product, do they? A lot of promises and potential. Strong development, I think it's one to hold and buy the dips, it already tested it's high around 400k and by the end of the year it should be back there. Next year I could see it at 0.01.

I think waves still better because waves have their own wallet, platform and any other excellence

When Waves released their new and improved DEX, they will most likely become one of the most popular decentralized exchanges.

My vote is also with waves. Waves have got the potential of being among the most cherished and expensive digital currencies by just little more hard work and improvements. Waves are far better than eth and I don’t see any point in comparing waves with shitty coin like strat. Start is hell useless.

i think waves too.

their dex service will be really good service and make waves a  big pump. still it gives a chance to buy. its price 5 dollar is so low

I go with Waves,

Its slightly cheaper, but has the same potential as Stratis, if not more due to the DEX added bonus.

I can see it hitting $100 once more high profile ICO come over to it.

Guys i need help, i am starting to loss my hope on waves, price is freezed and it is going down for more than a month.
I know it has a lot of features that other altcoins doesnt have, but tell me, when are they gonna release a new update? or do you know when it will probably have a pump?

Unfortunately noone could tell you when a coin will be pumped.

However there is a lot to look forward to and soon for Waves.
The new Dex is imminent as well as an investment bank opening om their platform.

Hold waves till the end of the year and I am sure you will be glad you did :-)

Why is one coin so dependent on others, especially all these ICOs? Should not the more ICOs happen the better, as like what happened with ETH when all the ETH ICO did? Also, WAVES is not 1.0 but don't forget Bitcoin is also only at 0.14.2. So really, there is no such thing as a 1.0 crypto and we cannot use that to measure maturity. This is all still strong speculation. Only time will tell.

Smart contracts in winter will be the biggest boost for Waves! After they release smart contracts, Waves will most likely have more ICO's.

Very hard to judge for me as those two are both great projects. But Waves holders seem lot more than Stratis holders especially in forums. Too many Waves post up here. So its gonna be better I suppose.

I'm Waves holder and reached alot profit in it. But if judged by who can hit first, i think Stratis is more potential to run first. Because volume of its trade is larger, so it's faster to rise than Waves.

Since When Waves is a scam... totally bad insinuation. Since 15 months, the project is totally viable. Ok the actual process to create coins is too easy. Lot of scams for sure... but look the success... and there is few.

Stratis is not the same but as well a good project.

Who is the best choice? in what? price? probably stratis.

I have huge expectations for Stratis until the end of the year. If they manage to deliver at least 50% of their roadmap we should see at least $30+ in price. The breeze wallet launch is imminent and that should attract freaking HUGE amount of funds as mixing services are being shut down lately. And all those funds should pour into breeze wallet. Also coins like XMR,ZCoin would become pretty useless as they can't provide the same grade of anonimity that tumblebit technology will do.

Stratis sidechains and smart-contracts are also expected to be launched this year in Q4 and they will be better than Ethereum ones as they won't have any problems with scaling and the devs behind are state-of-the-art professionals and of course hard-workers. It is very unlikely to not see at least $50/STRAT until the end of the year.

I've got to say that I'm not so familiar with WAVES roadmap and future plans,but it seems to me that Waves team had so much time and haven't demonstrated themselves.. Nothing revolutionary so I don't see how they could reach $100. If any of you have any arguments for Waves or contra-arguments let's continue the debate.  ;D

Waves has nothing revolutionary, you must be kidding? I am not even going to dignify this comment with a response.

As I said I have not documented about Waves future plans and news. I heard that in the last time they made some partnerships. Give me some arguments why Waves should surge in price. This is what the thread is for.

Waves is much bigger than Stratis even though it trails in marketcap currently which means it is undervalued. Waves CEO Sasha has lots of connections at very high places. Even Vladimir Putin has shown interest in the Waves Platform. Sasha is also good friends with Vitalik. There has been some partnerships lately. Stratis has none of this backing to the best of my knowledge.

Stratis has no russian backing,but has much bigger links with Microsoft and other companies. Nicolas Dorier is developing for Stratis as well. They just made a partnership with Earth Twine and they are in works to make the world's first seagood dedicated blockchain: https://stratisplatform.com/2017/08/17/worlds_first_seafood_dedicated_blockchain/ (https://stratisplatform.com/2017/08/17/worlds_first_seafood_dedicated_blockchain/)

As I said above Stratis has a growing team of devs working on different projects of the roadmap. Future is bright for Stratis.

I strong believe that Waves is the future, as it will be much easier to use than Ethereum. Ethereum is something for big companies to use

I have to disagree with you on this one. Stratis main target are corporates and whole industries to work with the sidechains and smart contracts that will be released soon this year. Ethereum has big issues with scalability which Stratis has the solution for.

Upcoming Waves features:

- New DEX
- 1000 transactions per second (Bitcoin NG protocol)
- Tokenomica
- Smart contracts
- debit card

I think strats will hit $100 as it is oldest and for some time now many traders has built great trust on it.  Wave on the others hand is not doing too bad and before this time next year we may see this two coin above  $100 if all things be equal. Others similar coins like neo, lisk and xem may also be above $100 by this time next year.  I have been trading strats and going up as high 100 dollar will be a great  advantage to me.

I am more interested in investing more in Stratis than Waves. Because Strat had been at a better price some time ago and now a very cheap price to do buy back. Strat an altcoin that gives me a very satisfying advantage.

I want to buy Stratis but I have not seen a coin with a market cap as high and a community as dead. It's absolutely a shame. I don't know why, the marketing is even stronger with it than most coins.

You should buy Waves! Almost no marketing (at least not until Waves 1.0 is launched), and a very strong community!

http://wavescommunity.com/burger-king-russia-issued-a-token-on-waves/

Just saying..

Woooow
Very surprisingly, I still have some coin waves, and still hold it. I saved it on HitBTC. I will hold it until the price improves.
Slightly disappointed with Tidex's service, I still find it hard to sell some coins there. And WD process is a bit difficult.

I like the idea of developed projects and that seems to be rare in the top 100 list on coinmarketcap. Both are platforms with room to grow, so I own both.

I have a strong feeling that stratis will be the first to hit $100 compared to waves. I know some peole would disagree with me.

You have good decisions to have both as I can see these coins have the potential to boom in the market. Possibilities can happen actually so having waves and stratis can have our wallet really soaring value.

I think both of them are good projects and deserve better prices. The prices of these coins are really near to each others, and I think this prices can be really high in the future.

Both are good project but I must say that both have (kind of) lost momentum. So many new projects have been launched last year. It's hard to keep it up.

Stratis is a sleeping giant . many developers say that Stratis is more suitable for large-scale commercial applications than ether . waves are also a good coin , but i think Stratis will reach $100 first .

Both of Waves and Stratis are the good coin. But I think Waves will hit 100$ first. Waves are undervalued now. I will buy more waves now. Just splits your investment on Waves and Stratis. Let's see on the end of this year

these are the first coins that I bought for a long time, I hope they will not let me down and the icon of the year will cost about $ 30

I believe that both coin are very good and have potentials of going high in the crypto world, but I will prefer to invest in waves and hold on long term because it is more stable and more potential.

Waves at $100? Not even with a miracle, it can not even go to $5 haha
Stratis is a crappy coin too, i do not think that it will ever surpass more than $30, not even with god's help.

I like the idea of developed projects and that seems to be rare in the top 100 list on coinmarketcap. Both are platforms with room to grow, so I own both. ;)

You should choose waves, this is a good coin, and maybe they will go to the moon by the end of this year, many coins are trusted and held.

Stratis will never be able to reach $ 100 in the future. I have other thoughts thinking of you. waves have a better foundation than Stratis and the waves community is very crowded. I will invest in waves instead of investing in Stratis

Both of these coins have a good history and that was a very popualar platforms and tokens some time ago, but now Im not sure that both of them have a good future. Waves started in 2016 and it was one of the 10 biggest coins , but now they cost about 3$ and only 46th place.
Stratis next one 47th palce.. Anyway it looks like they pass their chances and now without hype they won't rise.
Anyway I think maybe, just maybe stratis can still succeed in the future, as for the waves, their time seems to me passed

Yes, these two coins are very good, the have similar circulating supply  but to me, waves is better because it is more potential and it would likely hit that price before stratis but I doubt if it will rise as high as this amount before the end of the year especially as it seems like we do not know when the market will recover from this bear but I believe it will rise .

after lots of thought and reading for me waves is still a good coin to invest and i will be always saying that it could bring you some extra money in coming market recover.

if I think for now I will always support to wave its ability and get big capital from ICO and also I think wave is a platform that will give competition to ethereum, but actually I invest in wave because I believe it will pump the price this year, But I also think about that stratis also has good coins. I will observe both, hoping that I can make a profit from the waves.

Wave and stratis are both undervalued coin ,both have big potential to be in top 15,but as we know crypto has become less innovative and more hype so potential coin are always undervalued,while stratis is targeting business daaps whereas waves is targeting to become next eth.we can see sharp price change at the end of this year for sure.

both are good but i am personally leaning towards stratis

Why are you thinking that stratis is better? I don't see any points why this investment could be better, if you have some points about that please write them. I am really interested about that.

Waves is more good then Stratis. Waves Smartcontracts looks like going to beat ethereum contracts. More features and less fees.
Thats what we are waiting for.
Stratif is good too but waves is really nice.

They both are not good coins, they are shitty ones, that is the main reason of why the prices are not going up, i really believe in all the other coins, but waves and stratis? they have no future, and there is no way that they can grow up

Both of them have the potential to increase in the future. Therefore, if you can put your money either in waves or stratis. There is nothing we need to worry after investing our money in these coins. They all have the strength to become better and bring profit to investors

Very interesting comparison. It seems to me that both projects are somewhat similar. But I would invest in Stratis, because this project seems to me more promising and interesting.

I think that both stratis and waves can go up very powerfully. I really like these coins and I buy them at any opportunity! I think they have a great future!

If I pick out too much money to make investments for a while? As you assert, its fee has reached $ 50 so it'll keep to boom or decrease? long-time period funding is ideal, but how lots earnings do you are making in relation to brief-term investment?

I think both waves and stratis have great growth potential. But although their good potential, I would buy waves instead of stratis, because I think waves is more popular than stratis.

I don't think these coins have the potential to hit 100 USD within a year. It's like dream to me. I was hoping to see waves at 100 USD in this year and I heard many predictions about it and now it's less than 3 USD in price and many people lost their hope from WAVES. Straits is another good coin but I still don't think this coin can hit even 10 USD within a year.

I kind of agree with you. They have lost momentum. I still believe Waves is a very solid project and maybe it can shine this year, but the bear market has crushed many dreams.

Stratis would be experiencing a slow development growth since they only raised around 900BTC+ few yrs ago and the price of bitcoin is cheap while waves in the other hand raised bigger but only few exchange support or lists tokens that are using the wave platform. I would say that waves is superior because Stratis has no Dapps nor use case yet

waves and stratis can compete for each other to reach the higher position in the coinmarketcap but I guess waves will get increase first than stratis. it still a long journey for both waves and stratis to increase higher and that coin can reach the highest price too like the other coins. this two coin still undervalued right now and we can buy both waves and stratis while the price still cheap.

Stratis has been under the radar for years as they have been working hard behind the scenes. Late 2018 will be their "coming out party". I've been staking STRAT for a while now and I'm not looking to sell my tokens anytime soon.

IMHO 100 usd is a very high price for them. They exist for a long time and can't show anything so revolutionary to have such a pump.  Waves can reach 12-15 usd this is real but not 100 usd)

Instead of comparing them, they still work and I have to examine it!

i dont believe in waves project anymore. because waves project already lost its hype. there was a huge hype last year but team especially sasha make investors dissapointed. i dont think it will go up so much in the future.

I had invested to both of them stratis and waves, but I sold them because they are not good investment at this crypto world, they are not profitable, their prices always same so they are bad according to me.

I guess stratis will be winning this one since waves are really not on the race till now, there are no developments and news from the devs. Which is i am really disappointed to learn. Since i am really a fan of it since the day it was released.

As it seems to me now it is better stratis, but now I would not buy it, since it seems to me that it will still fall in price however I am sure that after the bottom the price for it will grow.

both coins are doing good and had getting much attention with the traders. I will go with waves as this will rise faster than stratis will their current development as I see this will go up strong in the coming years. Hitting $100 for next year is a tough and for me $50 is a great achievement for waves.

NEO>Waves>  :D ;)

expecting 100 usd is something so much xD  they must go like x60 x70 for hitting 100 usd. i dont think it is realistic to expect such an increase in such a short time period.

Waves is very versatile and already have working platform for smart contract and many other wonderful service.  Stratis on the other hand is developing most of its services.  I will pick waves first before Stratis!

Both have lost momentum and don’t seem to be able to recover. I don’t see them moving when the market revolvers, it’s slow.

Waves and Stratis are paying attention, always moving in the same way in the market. I find both of them unsuccessful. But if I had to vote, it would be waves.

I have stratis and I'm thinking that strat has better team and community than waves, strat team working hard but I dont say same things for waves unfortunately so I chose strat instead of waves.

For me is the same, both of them are coins that have something to say on market but if i need to pick one of them it would be waves.

Sometimes it's a good thing for me to read the article written to make more profitable shopping from the market. Sometimes when I look, I want to see both sides of the medallion. Market fluctuations are not really as bad as I thought it is my style to make purchases during fluctuating times. I would never hesitate to take even Staris. Occasional fluctuations allow people to be aware and spread subcodes. Bzazan buyers invest in price increases.

I'd like more Stratis. I don't have anything against Waves but Stratis is better as I think. I easy learn both coins. And that's why I have such mention. In Waves I don't like easiest way to create own token for ICO. And I hope Stratis will make it more difficult for some scam filter. I understand that  it not help. But maybe

I think stratis and waves are very good coins which can rise again with the rising prices of the many other coins. But in my opinion, stratis might reach better prices before of the rising of waves.

I can't seen the status of that both coins in the coinmarketcap since i stop working in trading because of the recent situation.
 But of course neo and stratis have potential and have possible to hit your price expectations just keep strong and pray the red signal become better goes into green all altcoins increase in the market before end of this year.

The price does not matter much. For me, both of the tokens are very cool. I really cannot make a final choice. Therefore, I hold Stratis and Waves. I am sure that these altcoins will gain really well next year.

Both of Waves and Stratis are the good coin. But I think Waves will hit 100$ first. Waves are undervalued now. I will buy more waves now. Just splits your investment on Waves and Stratis. There is nothing we need to worry after investing our money in these coins. They all have the strength to become better and bring profit to investors.

As a new investor Stratis is what interested me in the altcoins to begin with. It was the first one that I learned about and I'm holding some now hoping for the best.

I like Stratis as well but I am on the side of those people, who support Waves. In my opinion, STRAT has fewer chances to gain than Waves. Certainly, neither of then will hit $100.

Both projects are interesting, but I trust WAVES more. It seems to me that this project is much more stable than STRATIS. In addition, WAVES are developing more actively.

Well both of them have been decreasing a lot from the peak price. Stratis and waves are in the same tier right now. Both are over priced coin. Remember there will be more and more platform that offers blockchain service and that will be so difficult for both of coins to defend its place.

I think both having tough time here against ETH. Lately waves drop a lot, however I still like the WAVES.

none of them, there are much more better projects with actual products, like bancor. search more.

I think the waves are better I just need to work a little better my team is always patient for him and I need to wait more hopefully we all win. good luck

I support both projects, they are very cool, I think that each of these projects has a great future, but I would give preference to Stratis

Waves is now really taking the lead to be honest. They have partnered with Rostoc, a company founded by Putin and will possibly generate a lot of traffic on the blockchain and smart contracts will soon be activated on the mainnet.

It seems to me that Stratis have more chances and prospects for growth. It the first will reach a point in $100 if to compare it and Waves.

I am more support of waves than stratis, because waves is one of the coins that already has high popularity and have lots of volume in all markets,which more convinced me that waves had their own platform

in fact, both STRAT and WAVES have equal chances to reach a price of $ 100. But I like STRAT more and I invested more in it.

in fact I have both assets from the coin. Seeing the fluctuations and the announced projects, I feel more of a big advantage in waves. I suggest that you should have a large number of waves.

these are my two favorite platforms. I really like STRAT. I think that he has more potential for growth, but also Waves, will also grow

A difficult choice, but for me all are equal, and I don't see someone bigger benefits, and the ihz must not, therefore, to say with certainty who all atki not, as many would say.

i think waves.
but sasha and his team isnt worknig hard.
waves has really good project.

I prefer and preferring stratis for judging from the watform waves that are now too many garbage coins, perhaps stratives would be good for long   term

from the beginning, waves has got so many garbage on their platform. and it seems sasha and his team doesnt care much. it dont find them as a good team.

Maybe Stratis don't start ICO on their platform yet? :) Exclude these two That's why Stratis platform is clear today. But when they start project in the full force I think the same result will not take long to wait. But I'd like Stratis more nevertheless. And I buy more Strat not Waves

Waves VS Stratis

Now let us first define what is Waves abd Stratis
What is Waves?
- Waves is a blockchain platform and already developed. Their main target is one off developers or small teams. They aren't really going after any Enterprises.  Their wallet is easy on the eyes and easy to use. They allow you to earn Waves by running a full node, supposedly up to 1% per month. You can also "lease" your waves to someone running a full node and share in their earnings. Leasing is great because you don't have to be online to do that...you can lease, disconnect your computer from the internets and still earn mining rewards.

What is Stratis?
- Stratis is a blockchain platform that allows developers to build dapps on top of it. The development team has released the product and their wallet is easy to use. They use Proof of Stake, but staking isn't the easiest thing for the average user. The wallet tells me I'll get rewarded after 10-15 days if I were to leave the wallet connected for the entire time, which I never do. The more have you in your wallet, the quicker the reward.

What us the purpose of the Waves?
- Waves enable you to make custom tokens, which means you can launch your own cryptocurrencies. You can also decentralize trading and crowdfunding, as it has integrated fiat currency gateways like USD/EUR/CNY right in your wallet.

Via Waves, you can also launch ICOs to fund your projects from around the world in a matter of minutes, without going through intensive cryptocurrency coding. This will make life easier for startups and open up a new era of community-backed projects.

What is the pupose of the Stratis?
- The vision of the Stratis platform is to become a one-stop shop for all blockchain things, mostly becoming a blockchain-as-a-service (BAAS) platform.

The Difference of Waves and Stratis is Waves has a smaller market cap than Stratis today and maybe a higher ceiling than Stratis because you can't under estimate the power of free organic marketing.

We can invest both in long term. two of them have a very good infrastructure and I expect to have nice upgrades. waves and stratis have high hopes

To tell the truth, I really don't know which one will hit 100$ first. But I'm sure these coins are promising and it's a good choice for investment.

Waves need to work more on their marketing because no matter how good you are, you will still need strong projects running on your platform to get things really starting.

Waves will struggle with Stratis for a long time and the winner will be a Stellar. As for me Stellar really better then waves and stratis...

For me, waves and stratis are on one level, and both coins still grow until now, and I see that waves and stratis have good progress to increase back. But I think waves will become popular than stratis because waves have another coins or tokens which using the same network. And if the waves project explodes, then the price will surely increase higher and will be entered to the great coins level. But still, it will need time for waves to show the power and even for stratis and I am sure that both coins will get up to the higher price.

LOL at shills that talk bad about Waves not going after enterprises

Biggest Russian companies have signed memorandum (SoW) with Waves already:
- Moscow Stock Exchange
- Sberbank - one of the biggest banks in the World
- Rostec (industrial corporation)
- Kazakhstan

List goes on, its just top of my head

Sasha is working hard but nothing happened to the waves platform. I should remind you that even there was a problem with mercatox as waves official exchange site. they are working so hard but they have created nothing.
They were interesting to create such a copy cat smartcontract. that's a joke.

startis and waves, in my opinion also good,
developers are always updated, maybe both need time to develop and prices will definitely rise

Waves and stratis Both are good altcoin. I have collected 2 both altcoin. And I have a hope that the two coin will rise my expectation. My expectation not $100, this thinking will be very bad for market situation now. I hope Waves will go $20. And stratis will $15.
I hope my expectation will fill up after 4-6 months.

Waves is one of the oldest ICOs, I remember that Waves and Lisk were heavily hyped in a period of time. Stratis has some doubt around it. Honesly, I think the market has better projects to invest in as many similar projects have appeared after Waves and Stratis.

I think that you are right, because it has shown quite good results in a fairly short time. This indicates the prospects of the platform and the relevance of the society.

I choose Waves, because latest release of Waves Node makes Smart Accounts enabled. The smart account is an account with attached transactions checking script. In other words, a script which is attached to an account so the account can validate every transaction before confirming it. I like it! 8)

Waves is not an ico because it is already an altcoin, although waves is also a platform that some ico use because its cheaper than etherium .

overall , waves is more better than stratis because as i said earlier , waves is like eth and it is actually a competitor of eth before but now eth did already take the lead as it is more reliable than waves .

concerning I walked I have been meeting negative feedback for a long time, because this project does not meet all the requirements. Based on this, I have no doubt that Stratis can go ahead.

Nevertheless, quite a few users of the crypto currency trust the Wave project and make the appropriate investments. I think that if this project offers attractive opportunities, then for such ideas there will always be a place in the market for crypto currency.

Good point bro. Seems you're have a skill about Fundamental Analysis. Before I read this thread, I just Bagholder Waves. After I read this thread. I want Bagholder Stratis too. Hahaha

I agreed. Good comparison. But I see some inaccuracies. The main difference of Stratis and Waves is the methods. Stratis slowly and carefully make own blockchain platform for enterprise, ICO and more. Waves made something working and give it to the people. And we can see now what this lead to.

very clear and detailed what you wrote,
indeed stratis and waves I recommend waves,
because waves have the opportunity to overtake eos from marketcap in the future

waves is the foremost I think, because I have gotten a good reputation. and for long term or short term trading waves is also very suitable for me. in terms of technology or usage I don't understand about coin waves. and I'm not familiar with the coin stratis, so I prefer waves only. ;D

They did fund their project through an ICO, even before you joined bitcointalk. They collected about 30k Bitcoin, and Waves ICO price in Bitcoin is the same as it is now.

Market fluctuations are not really as bad as I thought it is my style to make purchases during fluctuating times.
I would never hesitate to take even Staris. Occasional fluctuations allow people to be aware and spread subcodes.

Both are a good project and both have a good potential even in long-term investment but current Stratis Market cap $157,735,425 USD or Waves Market cap $220,606,757 USD here is we see investors like Waves, so  I think the right choice is Waves

I don't think so. I saw Stratis by 400k sat and in that moment project have not so much achievements. But today Stratis is the whole ecosystem with platform for ICO, masternodes, many other improvements. Now Stratis is much stronger then a year ago. That's why I think this project have much more chances to be more successful.

waves>

Both coins are very attractive. I think it is best to divide the capital into two parts and invest in both coins. I think that each of these coins can multiply your capital several times.

in fact, today there are quite a lot of platforms, but in my opinion everyone will work in their field, because every sphere of human activity requires a certain approach.

I think these are 2 very good coins, personally I have invested in both of these projects so I wish them good luck ;D

I choose Stratis project because I follow this team in great detail and I believe that they will improve their product to perfection

I almost really forgot about the crypto assets that i have that runs in the waves platform including waves crypto itself. Well, waves is still in the bearish trend that it remains in a low market cap and price today. I guess waves still have the edge above stratis in the long run but both are good cryptos as far as investment is concerned.

I prefer waves from stratis,
because the development of waves is better, and waves are platforms like ethereum and xlm

Stateful Smart Accounts, part 2: Prototyping ERC-20 and NFT(ERC-721) step-by-step: https://blog.wavesplatform.com/stateful-smart-accounts-part-2-implementing-erc-20-and-nft-erc-721-step-by-step-7bac364fdadb

Gogo Waves!

Both projects are over rated. Their hype have gone and that's what has already happened with em all. there's no ico that interested to use their platform and it can be considered as the result if both of platforms fail to get the demand from the investors. in fact that so many people are talking bullshit about them all.

waves are doing good job but noone cares and price reflects that,was supporter in waves long time but losing 90% of btc value in short period of time is something to think about

THough I don’t believe that this two coins will be hitting $100 value this year or the next means 2019 ,but i am biased on these choices,because waves is sitting on my wallet for long now and i am confidently waiting for the great pump it will give me.so basically stratis is nothing to me lol

I really like these coins, but most of all I invest in STRAT! In any case, you need to carefully consider investing.

I will pick Waves not because that the project is better than Stratis but because it is well capitalised, I don't know how much the team has left in their wallet but I know they still have alot of BTC to spend on their development unlike Stratis that raised less than 1kBTC and looking at their burn rate it is likely to have dip to less than 200BTC in their wallet

I think this two platform can not larger show anything and I don’t recommend to invest money in their tokens. By the way, now waves is conducting a bounty campaign. In my opinion this is not a good sign.

Waves IMHO good old, prooved solder, but 100$ is too optimistic for it, IMHO 10-12 it can reach in the nearest future if it will be pump om market.

Good confrontation and extremely tempting to think and to think what to do in a given situation with this applicant or another. This is probably the main entrance in choosing the best.