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The crypto market cap is still relatively tiny.

Maybe after the increase in block size to 2MB towards the end of the year, or maybe sooner than that if things stay bullish. Four digit coins might become history soon, and in a few years become as unattainable as double digit coins are today. Hopefully in a few years people will be making threads entitled "when $100k".

This will happen eventually anyway. We're going step by step. Remember how fast we hit $2.000 this year after march's hard fork rumors. If bitcoin could maintain its development, we'll hit $10.000 within 10 years for sure.

10? Nah. 2. Probably less but I'm just assuming some exchange will get hacked or something big and negative will happen. That always slows down price increases.

Yeah but damn--we're still very near the ATH and we just popped back from a$1000 dive!  $10,000 is a very high number for the next year, but I do believe it could happen.  Could.  And I've been meaning to save my sig campaign earnings, but I keep spending it.  Now I'm really starting to question paying for stuff with bitcoin.  I don't think I'm going to sell or otherwise let go of any crypto that I get.  That's always turned out to be a real bad idea.

in 2013 all people are talking about when $2K 

now you are talking about when $10K?

maybe in next year people will talk about when will 50K$ per one i think  :)

i clearly remember back in 2014 that i saw articles from those days and 2013 that people were speculating $10,000 for bitcoin. so it is not really new. back then the $10K mark was still a thing (i could only find an article on forbes but it doesn't seem to be what i had in mind).

and it is still too soon for it. first we need to end this nonsense about block size debate which has clearly been keeping bitcoin back.

I think we see price of bitcoin at 10k dollars in the year of 2019 or maybe 2020 on that years for sure bitcoin price will reach more than 10k. So those people want invest bitcoin you can invest now and for sure after few years of holding you can earn a lot of profit. But invest only you can afford to lose . Invest only the extra money you have. Because we dont know what is the future of bitcoin price.

I admit that the total value of cryptocoins is still small, but your reference is the global finanical market. if you refer to the GDP from some one small country, we are now very strong.

Yes, if you compare the crypto market cap to say gold and silver's market cap you'll quickly realise that it is nowhere near the size of even precious metals, let alone the fiat currencies that bitcoin is supposed to be replacing.

John McAfee said that $500,000 in next 3 years is definite, i definitely wouldn't bet my own dick on live TV for that but $10k in 4 years is easy as f***. No kidding, price is already near $3000 and all we need is a triple in value. Usually a halving will bring around a 5-7x increase in bitcoin value and there is no reason to believe this isn't the case in the 2020 halving.

Honestly though i'd much rather see bitcoin have more merchants accepting it and a wider customer base, instead of its price just skyrocketing.

That can happen soon. In the meantime, it is good to just enjoy the ride and not express any impatience on its current value. In fact, Bitcoin has been called the fastest-growing investment vehicle so far beating any other type of investments. People are making money here and we are on the verge of its greatest bull run in history...watch out for that soon next month.

Bitcoin is still relatively young and that is we should always remember. It is still evolving and it will encounter many problems later on (which hopefully can be solved faster than it is now) but one thing for sure it will be growing steadily.

I'll throw a guess and it is somewhere between now and next July or if it does a collapse and correction first it depends, but within the next two to three years on the long end scale.
I lean towards sooner than later though but we will see how the community decides to go with it after Segwit2X comes and goes and whether 2MB turns into the next concern or if we resolve any future issues before that point.

If this was like the old days this rally should've taken us to 10k.... its only 3X from here, maybe it's comin  

Ya you are obviously correct. Only the people before 2013 know this   fact.It shows the growth of bitcoin day to day.That is happened only by us.We proud to be a part of bitcoin growth. You may inverse your money to get huge profit.

Way too high.
I do believe in bitcoin increase but not that way up.
We have to be real here and that price wont be allowed by the government.
That will just take us to a brink of making bitcoin be washed away.
It is better to take it slowly rather than lose it.

I actually started paying for food deliveries in BTC because I ran out of Fiat, haha. I just parked all of my Fiat minus what I need for rent and utilities in cryptos or stocks though. No point in keeping any money in the bank with interest rates so ridiculously low.

Bitcoin prices are predicted to continue to increase every year. If the current price of bitcoin is at the $ 2,700 price then I also have the same opinion that we will reach 10K in 2020. As long as all conditions are calm and the absence of negative news then bitcoin can be a very valuable thing. And for those who hold to bitcoin then this will be very profitable in the future.

What blocksize increase? You still think the 2x stuff is gonna happen?! :D :D
Before the increase the blocks it will be extensively viewed how much SegWit is gonna improve the actual situation.
I'm pretty sure we won't see a hardfork the next coming 12 months!

In terms of the thread title I would like to say that we should and will do it step by step.
We are barely at the half of that $10k goal! So let's try to reach $5k first.

Market cap is indeed tiny, which is why i believe that $10k is not probable but rather something that is inevitable. If you think about it, bitcoin is everything that fiat and even gold is and so much more. It deserves to have a much larger market cap.

$10k would mean a $180-210billion market cap depending on the amount of coins in circulation. This might seem a large amount right now but guess what we thought when market cap was at less than 10 billion? Obviously everyone thought that market cap couldn't go up any further -_-

I would say that by 2025, after 2 halvings it is safe to say that bitcoin market cap will quadruple to approximately the $10k level. This plus the inflation of fiat currencies naturally will push bitcoin comfortably over $10k imo.

Bitcoin is famous for winter rallies, we can see 10.000 USD in November. I see some similarities about this rise and 2013 rise. If things go well there's no reason for dump, Bitcoin could go 10k easily with another rally. Though it needs to pass 3k strength first.

I dont think we are able to see 10k this year, bitcoin still in unstable condition and then alt coins have gain a lot of attention causing bitcoin investor to decrease, slowly we are seeing bitcoin price crawling up, but to reach 10k still need a breakthrough

I think that it would take a long time for bitcoin to reach $10,000.Already,it is struggling to reach $3000.We all expected last month that bitcoin would soon cross $3000 and it may cross $4000 by this year end.But Due to fear of hard fork after segwit activation,lots of newbies sold their bitcoins which lead bitcoin price to fall down to $2250.But now its recovering.So may be,by the year 2020,bitcoin price may reach $10,000.

If it hadn't been for the Gox fiasco and the China ban back in '13/'14 I wonder how high it would have gone? if nothing horrible happens now, will it just keep rising? or will there be an inevitable dump and bear market again before the next big leg up?
Probably a stupid question, nobody has a crystal ball.

Honestly, every such negative event that doesn't outright kill crypto as a whole is just a fresh opportunity to me. It gives me more time to accumulate and gives new people more chances to proser as well.
Let's just hope that the fresh millionaires actually use their money sensibly rather than blowing it all on coke, lambos and hookers and then going into debt.

I think after the Segwit and block size increase, the price could be $10k in a year.   

Let's be realistic, 10000$ is just exaggerated at this moment. I'm not saying it's impossibe but this will not happen so soon, not this year anyway. And it's hard to predict all the things that would happen at the market and influence the price and what direction will Bitcoin go after August 1. So let's take one step at the time.

Marketcap is still thin but we have to know that it will take lots of time to get new investment added to bitcoin so we can't predict when marketcap will grow so that price per bitcoin will be $10k+ but when segwit will be activated I think price will easily cross over $5000 and when LN will be started than price can shoot upto $10k easily.  ;)

Just don't mind the $10,000 as long as price is always rebounding and not to the point that it will drastically goes down always and continously. Soon we can reached that but it needs time. Reality speaking or not, I can say that it has chances to happen.

There are still lots of events in developments that will take placed. Speculations of price increase will not end hence it will give a strong foundation for the bull. Ride the waves and let's see where we will landed.

For me we 10,000 dollars in the after few years or 2-3 years because as of now the price of bitcoin is veryhigh and still continue and i believe before end of this year2017 the price of bitcoin maybe around 5000 dollars and the price of bitcoin in the year of 2018 will be 6000-8000 dollars and in the years of 2020 maybe around 8000-10000 dollars and for sure if that happen many people become instant millionaire because they earn a lot of profit.

Not really. If you closely pay attention to how Bitcoin has increased in value, and how the sentiment has been more bullish than ever before, you'll understand that you're wrong. Various altcoins have indeed gained a certain form of attention, but that's mainly due to the fact that people are stunned by the sheer increase of Ethereum, and thus invest in other altcoins in the hope that they will experience the same level of growth. Ethereum without the ICO hype would be sitting below Litecoin's price at current levels. I am not an altcoin fan at all, but the only altcoin I do somewhat appreciate is Litecoin. It has maintained its value extremely well throughout the years. All other alts are straight junk.

You did all the calculations and following your reasoning, I think it makes sense.

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Still we are not even  $3000 and OP already wants to know when we will be in the $10.000?

Wait until we get to  $3000.

If you pay real close attention, you'll notice that there's a lot more people participating in the crypto-markets than before. It is true, that a lot of people are diversifying into altcoins, but since there's so many more people joining the market in general, Bitcoin is and will be climbing. Bitcoin is the hedge against risk and will, along with Ethereum, hold the largest positions in most portfolios. But people will be putting some of their money and/or profits into alts regardless, since the potential gains are too large to not even try.

I can't even speculate if it's going to rain in that moment with looking at the sky. Since the announcement that segwit is being implemented 1st of august, I thought that the price will be going down by a little and we had that little drop to 1900$ (preev.com) but the it went up to 2,756$(preev.com) so I'm even sure about anything and now thinking about investing into bitcoin pre aug 1st.

Price went up 4x from 3 years ago, but that was a deflated coin suffering from Mt Cocks fiasco and China bans. You reallly think the next 3 years will see this same growth?

Of course it can, whether or not it will is a different question. However, with the influx of new people into the crypto-markets the rates of adoption increase. The more people come in, the more people will come in during the next run. Cryptos are in a stage of exponential growth which could potentially sustain itself up to a point where finances in general are run through the blockchain.
Cryptos are a far more efficient way of equity participation, so it's not completely unreasonable to believe that stock markets could one day be replaced by this technology. In a more pessimistic scenario crypto-markets would be sponging up Paypal/Visa/Mastercard shares of financial transactions, which would still be massive.

In either case, I personally expect a market in the trillions within a few decades. That does not mean that buying a Bitcoin will make you rich though, since it could always be replaced by a better coin if BTC doesn't scale fast enough to cope with increases in demand.

I think the next 3 years will see bigger growth than the last 3 years. I wouldn't eat my dick if I was wrong, but I'm pretty sure it will be more than $10k in 3 years. It took a hell of a lot of time to recover from those problems, there are no pressing problems only good forecast as of now.

Like seriously, what's the point of you basically rehashing everything that I have said, without adding anything contributing? Try harder.

I do not believe that growth will be as strong in the years to come. Bitcoin has already made a leap over the past year. And now the growth of its price is unlikely to be as rapid. If bitcoin reaches such a large price, it will happen in 50 years

Reading comprehension? You stated that a decrease in BTC investors is generally wrong, which it is not. You also stated that all altcoins are junk, which is patently false. Perhaps you should spend more time paying attention and less time being so awkwardly impulsive.



I believe the same, but I wouldn't be surprised if something stunted growths. In my book it's more likely that adoption rates will increase rather than staying constant or falling off though, which implies a price in excess of $10k to me. I do prefer assuming the worst case scenario though, so I won't feel disappointed if my expectations are off. Also feels better to have more than you hoped for to begin with.

Bitcoin is the reserve currency and gateway to the alts, it is more than a "hedge".

The market cap is tiny. The average person still has either never heard of it or doesn't have a clue what it is even if they have heard the word. I think your opinion is way off.

Bitcoin has changed considerably in many aspects since 2013 and, thus, I don't think it is a good reference.
Same, I think, Bitcoin is still too young to draw any reasonable conclusions regarding seasonals.
Having said all that, I do see a next spike, coming as soon as the next month, as quite probable. But I don't think we will pass the $3500 mark that easily. As soon as we cross $3k we are in the uncharted territory and it is extremely difficult to make any educated guess what will happen there.

If this market was similar to the 2013 market we would have dumped back to $600 by now instead of near the ath. Confidence in the long term is on a much higher level than then. People pretty much get that the next halving is going to make the price go way up, and there are a hell of a lot more big players invested now.
I think we see $10k next year.

Good to see such positivism here. Even if it's different than 2013 rally we are sure that Bitcoin will make new highs. In the long term everybody win some. Maybe next year, maybe 5 years later, one thing is for sure: We'll see $10k.

What on earth is there not to be positive about? I am still blown away by the burst from the last year and a half.
Not everybody wins in a bull market, bears and many day traders get decimated.

I think its impossible that we can see $10k value next year and i think it takes more years around 2020 to 2022 is the possible that i think the price can be reach in $10k value because after halving like other said the price can be double after halving ..
Because we are relaying on demand and supply so our supply will reduce that can affect the market price and increase more value.

The price won't double due halving alone. That would require most previously mined coins to literally disappear. The prices will definitely go up though.

Sometime between now and the next halving. Patience grasshoppers...

Market cap is irrelevant so do not pay much attention to it.
$10k should be achieved at about less than 2 years from now. We are so close on the 3000 USD mark and once we crossed that line, it would be not that too hard to achieve new ATHs. And to think that "less than 2 years" is a long time, then it would be not impossible to achieve the 10,000 USD target.

Yes the opportunity is open when we look at the current bitcoin price. The increase in bitcoin price every year can reach 100%, this is indeed a tremendous movement. Yes it may take 3 to 5 years to see bitcoin has a price of 10K USD. This is indeed a dream but all the circumstances of bitcoin at this time always starts from a dream.

I would like this dream to become a reality. But I'm used to trusting in logical thinking and it tells me that bitcoin can not achieve such a high price.
It seems to me that in order to achieve such a price, the popularity of bitcoin should grow several times. And it grows very smoothly now.

After seeing the recent leap nearing the $3000 I think it is possible in about two years too. Big numbers make Bitcoin get attention, and attention can make it go very very high in a short time, precisely because market is still low. Things can grow a lot when there is a little market, but tend to grow more slowly when market is widespread and established.

Bitcoin price can reach $10k in 2017. There is not really that small chance for that. But after that price will be reach there will be huge correction and price would stabilize at around $5k.   Most people would not fell price reached that high, since would not sell on top.

Since bitcoin is keeps on increasing due to Users increases.But it takes few years from now. In 2020 the price will as increased by what you thought or think .If the price of bitcoin crossed 10000,means many investor may get very much huge profit.

I doubt we see $10k that quickly. New ATH is easy, and should be within the reach of the  next spike. But $10k is another ball game. Closer to the next halving we may have a shot at it.

The fact is that the forecasts for today are really very many and which will be realized incomprehensibly. Although it would be nice to shoot the price up to 10,000 dollars for one Bitcoin. But should I expect 50,000, I do not even know.

Nobody can make threads if you are not letting people to be free like that as you see there is a huge role of bitcoin in these types of cases because everybody is not the same. So bitcoin is understand all around the world problems so nobody can say that there will be threads and more because everyone believe that bitcoin is right place so we should say that yes.

People will always continue to hold their coins - it has been like that since the very beginning, and it will continue to stretch out in the forthcoming years. In general, coins will become less affordable as per whole unit price (yes, I know people can buy fractions), and that will give people an extra stimulance to keep holding. People realize that if they spend or sell their coins, they might end up having to buy their coins back at higher levels.

Crypto Market is insignificant not without reason - average Joe either never heard about Bitcoin or it is sceptical about it.
Mainly because he is feed with mainstream news about 'Bitcoin being tool for terrorists" and other bullshit.
Some things cannot be accelerated and take time to grow - I would rather see stable growth based on increased adoption rate than speculative bubble like we had in 2013.

I know it can be difficult to not spend out bitcoin but if we really want to get profits then we need to do our best to avoid that and see if you can use fiat instead.

I don't know will ever be this price or not, but I do know that even if now we know that in the future we will see four numbers in the price of bitcoin we still won't be able to keep all their coins. To live you need now. Bitcoin and the future will be unattainable for many as now. How many people kept their coins in 2008?

We are already seeing the price of bitcoin at four digits and we are near to reach 5 digits very soon. What do you mean kept their coins on 2008? Bitcoin started at 2009 and now we are 2017. Do you mean 2018? If you mean 2018, I'm one of those people that are keeping my bitcoins up to that year.

$10k ? maybe next year we could possibly reach that barrier but as of now we can't expect that this year. hard fork will soon come maybe around november. so much better if just lilow on investing on bitcoin because we're on crucial states right now because of segwit. so im guessing bitcoin could actually meet $10k nextyear by the summer.

To be honest, this is a very optimistic forecast. I would very much like to have 10,000 dollars for Bitcoin. But it seems to me that this year we will not reach such a level yet.

10k usd by march 2018 , with tim draper and cliff high ;)

lo, how do you know month and year of the bump we are speculating. If price moves with the hard forks which is gonna happen on future and tomorrow. Please wait till tomorrow then you can speculate it with your imaginary lines. I wish and think bitcoin to touch this value in 2020 to have stable grow of bitcoin and btc related businesses.

Without getting rid of these update and segwit problems and updates, we can't even reach 3k usd for the bitcoin. We have problems for the blockchain and these should be fixed and we can be ready for a pump.

im sure segwit will be activated with success without problems and fud... my pronostic +3k usd the 2nd week august ..just look ;)

For me I also waited value to be possible to happen, since bitcoin has been stable to grow specially with exchanges market of crypto, bitcoin was so popular. That price is really a remarmable one if we will have it in the future of bitcoin, so we must be positive and eager to wait. Patience of waiting is the key to be successfully fulfilled with your dreams and expectations.

late 2019- 2020, because of halving and, hopefully resolved majority of problems 'till that year. Not before..remember that it takes much, much money to make MarketCap of Bitcoin (alread rather large) to grow 4x. It is much easier to achieve that on some altcoin with 20x smaller MarketCap.

Unless, institutional investors start to invest billions theough ETF funds.. and that could happen in 2019., perhaps even late 2018.