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Will Trump ever get his border wall? and how it will affect Bitcoin?

I think Mexican will build this wall before the TRUMP in order to stop Americans that steal their jobs

The wall is already 90% built, you can google what it looks like
eg. https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/pedestrianfenceexamples-1024x766.jpg,

what he actually have to do is connect it and step up enforcement around it. Right now there's even citizen border patrols in Arizona because there's a severe lack of manpower in the actual border patrol.

Now around Trump inflames another scandal about relations with the Russians. Tillerson is going to leave his administration. I think that it will not be up the wall. Perhaps he will remember the surrender of America in Syria. I think that he is already a lame duck and not worthy of interest.

Trump really wanted to build the wall, but it has come to the realization that it's going to be very expensive now that he has no idea on how to make the Mexicans can pay for the wall. I believe that the wall will be a very good security for the citizens of the USA because most of the Mexicans who come there engage in illegal activities like drugs and murders.

I think he will build the wall next year

He's a dick, if he has the money he presumes, then where is that wall? If he does, he will pay all of it

I'm still kinda bullish on Trump ( still think it's better than Hillary ) :-\

NO they do not.

Only a small percentage are criminal, but that small percentage is a big problem, because they freely roam around, back and forth across the border.

I hope he won't build it. It's a complete waste of money. Anybody who wants to get into the US, will get in, period. Most people come in via air traffic anyways, so the wall is completely pointless when it comes to stopping the main source of inbound traffic.

The money is far better invested in legalizing drugs and selling them under a strictly regulated entity. That way drug crimes will die out and the US will have a new, enormous, source of income. But I suppose the pharma industry doesn't like that approach, which begs the question: why don't they just jump on board and partake in the proceeds?

I assume you are just ignorant on these issues.

It takes no money to "legalize drugs," check Colorado and Nevada. Legalizing drugs provides a serious income stream to the state that does so.

As for "Most people come in via air traffic,", ....

That's not true of movement between the USA and Mexico.

He better!

It takes money to lobby for the legalization of drugs. You can't just walk up and go, hey, legalize this. Although Trump potentially could, which he won't. Either way, I am not talking about Cannabis, which has been widely accepted for many years despite its legal status. I'm talking about drugs in general. Good luck legalizing those without extensive lobbying efforts that will make sure that all the fuckwits who profit off of their current legal status won't feel left out.

I think that he is going to build the wall, regardless of whether Mexico is going to pay for it or not. It is going to cost anywhere from $10 billion and $50 billion to build the wall, which is small when compared to the multi-trillion annual budget of the United States.

valid point.

should we then embark on a multibillion dollar infrastructure project, which will take years to build, in order to attempt to deter a "small percentage" of immigrants that would be criminals? certainly easier to simply police the border a little harder, a lot harder even ( I shudder to think of the abuses people will suffer at the hands of overzealous border agents). agents are much cheaper than rebar and government contracted work.  seems like sweeping policy change is the answer here, not infrastructure spending. and thats coming from me, so that should say a lot.

The rhetoric Trump espoused worked; people that would come here to work and not cause trouble, are scared to come and are preemptively leaving, to avoid being deported. that means, only the bad actors that dont really give a fuck about being deported are the ones that would come, and possibly cause crime.

how is a wall going to stop someone like that?

the wall is silly. the concept the wall represents is not. but the wall is a red herring, just like locking her up, and draining the swamp.
not an attack, I know we butt heads alot.

and the wall wont stop drugs so much. Mexican-produced recreational drugs (coke, heroin, some opium, and a bunch of stale ass pot) come over the border via car, on boat, and via the mail system. Its not smart from a business standpoint to simply walk a package of that value across an open, unprotected space that could be compromised by not only border agents, but possibly rival cartels. smart money would hide the drugs, and not compound the misery by attaching them to human smuggling/border violation. hence cocaine submarines, gas tanks full of weed, and shipments of lollipops getting caught in customs with delicious heroin centers.

how many licks does it take to get to the middle of a heroin lollipop? ;) you dont have to answer that, im good.

That's how it will look like ;D

If he wants to keep the illegals out, then there is no need for any of this. Just allow the immigration authorities to deport these illegals without hassle and arrest anyone employing illegal aliens in the United States. The flow of undocumented immigrants will taper down by default.

I guess from the one side of fence it will look more luxurious  :D

I don't care what makes you shudder. Probably the horrid thought of your fragile little snowflake hitting the ground one day?

The border today is essentially a war zone due to the operation of the Mexican cartel gangs. Yes we need the border fence.

Thank you for that well researched, well stated reply :D I got lost reading your flowing response.

The wall is built quickly, and I think it is very meaningful to build it, which can reduce the incidence of smuggling and crime, although it takes a lot of money.

I don't mind this kind of wall at least it looks good - can attract tourists

Thnaks man, i just read a speech of him. I think that money could be used for something better.

Someone Should build a sent money to Mexico Coin.

He should build that wall. He's totally right when talking about illegal inmigrants and the troubles they bring to a country. I assure you that those people who say stupid things about him only because they hate Trump also get upset/angry when they see those "poor illegal inmigrants" are involved in most of illegal business in their country, etc. (*cough* hypocrites *cough*)  ;D

I'm assuming you want to do the shit jobs "poor illegal immigrants" get right? Who the fuck are you to be talking about immigrants when you can't even spell it right? Learn to speak the language before you use it to insult.

Most of these Mexicans have a better work ethic than you, would much rather hire a hard worker than a self entitled ass-wipe like you.

I can assure you people hate Trump for more than the reason you said, maybe it's the fact that he's the idiot in charge of some pretty important things. The man that says global warming was a myth made by China. The man that says there's fake news against him....

I heard that Mexico has one of the toughest laws against illegal immigrants in the world. When Mexico is showing no leniency towards the illegal aliens in its territory, then why should the Mexican illegals should be given priority treatment?

I'm laughing so hard, thank you very much for that (and for telling me I spelled that word wrong, I didn't notice). Well, of course I'm talking about those immigrant in a general way I know there are exceptions, but you can't tell me they don't do all that stuff too, please
But it's okay, I'm sorry if my opinion insulted you or something hahaha  ;D

No one discovered America. Indians were living in the Americas for the last 10,000 years or more. You can say that Columbus was the first Southern European to visit the continents (the first European was Erik the Red, who discovered Greenland). Leif Eriksson was the first European to land in mainland North America. And China's Admiral Zheng landed in the Americas 70  years before Columbus.

if they had jobs there, they wouldn't be running to US in the first place.



The construction on the wall has begun and I believe that mexico will be paying something like 30-40% but yes, it's most likely going to protect them a little bit more from illegal aliens than all that weaponry.



No, he didn't go out in the world to escape from poverty of Europe, he went out to discover the new route to trade with India and stumbled upon Americas. Also, all those europeans weren't immigrants aswell.

What is for you the concept of "discovery"? Columbus discovered America for the society which at that time communicated among themselves and did not know about the existence of such a continent. It doesn't have to be a desert continent. And now scientists make discoveries in the ocean, but that does not mean that it's uninhabited.

No he won't. They will use that argument to distract the public as usually they find a way and they'll do something else without noise. puppet appears, you watch the show because they want you to do that.

Perhaps you need to educate yourself about the meaning of discovery. You can't say that the Americas were discovered by Columbus, when Erik the Red had done the same 500 years back. Zheng He landed in the Americas somewhere around AD 1430. The journey of Columbus holds significance only for Southern Europeans.   

Has anyone ever thought that there are better options than a WALL.?
If we start building a wall for every border then it will be meaningless. Walls can be penetrable or can be jumped with some types of equipment, you need army or guards to check it again and again. I think its plain stupidity. 

From what I figure, some parts of the wall will be built in strategic areas. Seems like building a whole wall from end to end is a waste. Probably easier to dig a lot of it out and make it into wide streams of water and have cameeras setup to see.

lot harder to oe quiet swimming through water and sneaking through water. Probably a few hundreds miles of wall will be built and more security ramped up

This is a pretty good idea! I think they were talking about using natural water features to help save money by reducing the total amount of wall. I never considered making the water features from scratch   :o It would be a lot cheaper long term to dig a bunch of trenches than to build stuff out of concrete and metal, and it won't disrupt the environment as much. Also, if we ever need to change anything, it's easy to dig more holes, than tear down old wall and rebuild.

I do not think he will be building anything in the end and even if he does, he sure as hell won't be getting mexico to pay for it  :P

Trump is a very intelligent and shrewd businessman. He has put Mexico in a very tough spot. If he levies a duty on the Mexican products, then there is no other option for the Mexicans but to pay for it. Else, the products can't be imported in to the United States and the manufacturing units will close down. Millions of people will lose their jobs.

What will Mexicans do, when will he really build a wall? In Mexico will not begin to work strongly much. At least if to compare the level of profits of Americans and Mexicans, then a result will be not in behalf on the habitants of Mexico.

Even in the fictional world of Game of Thrones, Walls were built to protect the citizens from people and things that would seek to destroy them. I think building the wall will protect the US people especially since Canada is allowing basically anyone into their country.

Wasn't the wall already supposed to have been made by now?

They will hire Mexicans to build it for them. But I think they (America) will not build that wall, they have larger issues to solve and allocating budget for fence building is gonna cost them more than the amount they are losing. Building walls will not solve their problem with aliens and immigrants.

They will hire "legal workers", and these guys can come from Mexico, Bolivia or any other UN member nation having good relations with the United States. And the money is going to come from the levies charged on Mexican products. The tax payers are not going to pay for it.