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July 25, 2017, 09:42:37 AM
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The $1.1 trillion government spending package Congress passed and the president signed into law earlier this month includes $1.5 billion in border security funding, but it can only be used to replace existing fencing and barriers; it cannot be used to build a concrete wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Will Trump ever get his border wall? and how it will affect Bitcoin?
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July 25, 2017, 04:35:44 PM
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I think Mexican will build this wall before the TRUMP in order to stop Americans that steal their jobs
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July 25, 2017, 04:59:05 PM
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The wall is already 90% built, you can google what it looks like
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what he actually have to do is connect it and step up enforcement around it. Right now there's even citizen border patrols in Arizona because there's a severe lack of manpower in the actual border patrol.

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July 25, 2017, 05:16:34 PM
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Now around Trump inflames another scandal about relations with the Russians. Tillerson is going to leave his administration. I think that it will not be up the wall. Perhaps he will remember the surrender of America in Syria. I think that he is already a lame duck and not worthy of interest.
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July 25, 2017, 08:11:12 PM
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Trump really wanted to build the wall, but it has come to the realization that it's going to be very expensive now that he has no idea on how to make the Mexicans can pay for the wall. I believe that the wall will be a very good security for the citizens of the USA because most of the Mexicans who come there engage in illegal activities like drugs and murders.

 
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July 25, 2017, 08:28:35 PM
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I think he will build the wall next year

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July 25, 2017, 09:03:45 PM
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He's a dick, if he has the money he presumes, then where is that wall? If he does, he will pay all of it
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July 25, 2017, 09:15:46 PM
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He's a dick, if he has the money he presumes, then where is that wall? If he does, he will pay all of it

I'm still kinda bullish on Trump ( still think it's better than Hillary ) Undecided
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July 26, 2017, 12:30:38 AM
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Trump really wanted to build the wall, but it has come to the realization that it's going to be very expensive now that he has no idea on how to make the Mexicans can pay for the wall. I believe that the wall will be a very good security for the citizens of the USA because most of the Mexicans who come there engage in illegal activities like drugs and murders.

NO they do not.

Only a small percentage are criminal, but that small percentage is a big problem, because they freely roam around, back and forth across the border.
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July 26, 2017, 12:34:18 AM
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I hope he won't build it. It's a complete waste of money. Anybody who wants to get into the US, will get in, period. Most people come in via air traffic anyways, so the wall is completely pointless when it comes to stopping the main source of inbound traffic.

The money is far better invested in legalizing drugs and selling them under a strictly regulated entity. That way drug crimes will die out and the US will have a new, enormous, source of income. But I suppose the pharma industry doesn't like that approach, which begs the question: why don't they just jump on board and partake in the proceeds?
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July 26, 2017, 12:44:37 AM
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I hope he won't build it. It's a complete waste of money. Anybody who wants to get into the US, will get in, period. Most people come in via air traffic anyways, so the wall is completely pointless when it comes to stopping the main source of inbound traffic.

The money is far better invested in legalizing drugs
and selling them under a strictly regulated entity. That way drug crimes will die out and the US will have a new, enormous, source of income. But I suppose the pharma industry doesn't like that approach, which begs the question: why don't they just jump on board and partake in the proceeds?

I assume you are just ignorant on these issues.

It takes no money to "legalize drugs," check Colorado and Nevada. Legalizing drugs provides a serious income stream to the state that does so.

As for "Most people come in via air traffic,", ....

That's not true of movement between the USA and Mexico.
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July 26, 2017, 12:55:40 AM
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He better!
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July 26, 2017, 12:55:43 AM
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I hope he won't build it. It's a complete waste of money. Anybody who wants to get into the US, will get in, period. Most people come in via air traffic anyways, so the wall is completely pointless when it comes to stopping the main source of inbound traffic.

The money is far better invested in legalizing drugs
and selling them under a strictly regulated entity. That way drug crimes will die out and the US will have a new, enormous, source of income. But I suppose the pharma industry doesn't like that approach, which begs the question: why don't they just jump on board and partake in the proceeds?

I assume you are just ignorant on these issues.

It takes no money to "legalize drugs," check Colorado and Nevada. Legalizing drugs provides a serious income stream to the state that does so.

As for "Most people come in via air traffic,", ....

That's not true of movement between the USA and Mexico.
It takes money to lobby for the legalization of drugs. You can't just walk up and go, hey, legalize this. Although Trump potentially could, which he won't. Either way, I am not talking about Cannabis, which has been widely accepted for many years despite its legal status. I'm talking about drugs in general. Good luck legalizing those without extensive lobbying efforts that will make sure that all the fuckwits who profit off of their current legal status won't feel left out.
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July 26, 2017, 01:34:14 AM
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I think that he is going to build the wall, regardless of whether Mexico is going to pay for it or not. It is going to cost anywhere from $10 billion and $50 billion to build the wall, which is small when compared to the multi-trillion annual budget of the United States.

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July 26, 2017, 05:53:11 AM
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Trump really wanted to build the wall, but it has come to the realization that it's going to be very expensive now that he has no idea on how to make the Mexicans can pay for the wall. I believe that the wall will be a very good security for the citizens of the USA because most of the Mexicans who come there engage in illegal activities like drugs and murders.

NO they do not.

Only a small percentage are criminal, but that small percentage is a big problem, because they freely roam around, back and forth across the border.

valid point.

should we then embark on a multibillion dollar infrastructure project, which will take years to build, in order to attempt to deter a "small percentage" of immigrants that would be criminals? certainly easier to simply police the border a little harder, a lot harder even ( I shudder to think of the abuses people will suffer at the hands of overzealous border agents). agents are much cheaper than rebar and government contracted work.  seems like sweeping policy change is the answer here, not infrastructure spending. and thats coming from me, so that should say a lot.

The rhetoric Trump espoused worked; people that would come here to work and not cause trouble, are scared to come and are preemptively leaving, to avoid being deported. that means, only the bad actors that dont really give a fuck about being deported are the ones that would come, and possibly cause crime.

how is a wall going to stop someone like that?

the wall is silly. the concept the wall represents is not. but the wall is a red herring, just like locking her up, and draining the swamp.
not an attack, I know we butt heads alot.

and the wall wont stop drugs so much. Mexican-produced recreational drugs (coke, heroin, some opium, and a bunch of stale ass pot) come over the border via car, on boat, and via the mail system. Its not smart from a business standpoint to simply walk a package of that value across an open, unprotected space that could be compromised by not only border agents, but possibly rival cartels. smart money would hide the drugs, and not compound the misery by attaching them to human smuggling/border violation. hence cocaine submarines, gas tanks full of weed, and shipments of lollipops getting caught in customs with delicious heroin centers.

how many licks does it take to get to the middle of a heroin lollipop? Wink you dont have to answer that, im good.
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That's how it will look like Grin

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July 26, 2017, 11:22:05 AM
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If he wants to keep the illegals out, then there is no need for any of this. Just allow the immigration authorities to deport these illegals without hassle and arrest anyone employing illegal aliens in the United States. The flow of undocumented immigrants will taper down by default.
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I guess from the one side of fence it will look more luxurious  Cheesy
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July 26, 2017, 11:58:14 AM
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Trump really wanted to build the wall, but it has come to the realization that it's going to be very expensive now that he has no idea on how to make the Mexicans can pay for the wall. I believe that the wall will be a very good security for the citizens of the USA because most of the Mexicans who come there engage in illegal activities like drugs and murders.

NO they do not.

Only a small percentage are criminal, but that small percentage is a big problem, because they freely roam around, back and forth across the border.

valid point.

should we then embark on a multibillion dollar infrastructure project, which will take years to build, in order to attempt to deter a "small percentage" of immigrants that would be criminals? certainly easier to simply police the border a little harder, a lot harder even ( I shudder to think of the abuses people will suffer at the hands of overzealous border agents). .....

I don't care what makes you shudder. Probably the horrid thought of your fragile little snowflake hitting the ground one day?

The border today is essentially a war zone due to the operation of the Mexican cartel gangs. Yes we need the border fence.
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