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I saw something that caught my attention as soon as i read this thread:

Thread link


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2051623.0

https://www.ethereumplus.org/#team

https://i.imgur.com/Wc0TgNo.png

I had seen these two guys louis stocking and Nominee reyes somewhere, so i decided to search where i had seen these two people and find this:

https://ethtrade.org/

https://i.imgur.com/xulGi90.png

https://i.imgur.com/Nm3CQTn.png
https://i.imgur.com/StgzSgP.png

https://www.cryptocompare.com/profile/CryptoInvestor/#/activity

You can also see that candy is part of the ethtrade.org team.


Accusations against ethtrade.org:


https://managingyourfinance.com/ethtrade-review-is-ethtrade-a-scam-or-legitimate-read-before-you-invest

Although this seems like a clear case of an attempted scam or fraudulent display of the project (which raises the question about the validity of anything said by the project), I would like someone else to review it as well before I leave a negative rating.

https://www.ethereumplus.org/images/avatars/user-02.jpg

Ramaswamy Raja

Founder

This photo was modified date: 2017:07:06 17:41:16, with Adobe Photoshop CS6

Thank you for pointing this out. I was not the one at NewsBTC who vetted the team for this particular project, but hopefully it's an isolated incident of which the founder was unaware or at least uninvolved. I've inquired about this in hopes of kickstarting further investigation, and also recommended more and more vetted escrow agents for the partnership to proceed.

For the partnership to proceed ? You are the first poster of the thread which gives you an edge over everyone else who knows the team better.That image is clearly photo-shopped.Since you've attempted to introduce the project to us,why don't you tell us more about the team or supplying their linkedin profiles maybe ?

Edit ; Just  found a linkedin profile of their co-founder https://www.linkedin.com/in/sri-saiteja-annareddy-982a3277/ and it's fake.He looks like a 20 years old guy with 15 years of work experience,that's his linkedin profile says.

Yes, I will demand the partnership be ended if this project is clearly a scam. I just posted it because it's a NewsBTC client and they didn't know how to post it. I don't actually know the team, myself... I wasn't expecting to have to investigate, because I am extremely busy with other projects. Please be patient but feel free to continue digging up evidence if there is any to find

https://i.imgur.com/sxAhs8H.jpg

Look at his hairs  ;D

 ;D


Just to see team members, anyone easily says that this project is scam

Where is Ramaswamy Raja, the founder of the project?

take a look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-nPLj7xU7M  ;D

LOLLL that's a fucking JOKE hahahaha, all of them are trying to grab money with this shitty "scam" project and unfortunately, fail before the war starts  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Any other Bitcointalk accounts that need to be tagged besides: The Bitcoin Co-op (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=113797)? This project just stinks of a scam.

This guy @Aditya Sharma (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1086417) looks like he is who are being responsible for the project




There is this other guy @Ethereumplus Community (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1084482)

Thanks. I will most likely tag them all as soon as I write up the feedback that correctly reflects on the situation. This is a "high risk project" at best.

Please don't tag us, if that means some kind of black mark, or something. I actually just put my job at NewsBTC on the line to reach out and force an investigation into the matter, and I am really not involved. This account is also jointly owned by other Bitcoin Co-op directors who are not even involved with NewsBTC. Our non-profit doesn't deserve negative feedback because I failed to pay close attention to a NewsBTC client I didn't pick up--I am honestly sorry for that, and trying to make amends.

I assure you I have expended the greatest effort I can in getting to the bottom of this, despite launching my own (legitimate) coin at the same time while managing CoinFest (http://www.coinfest.org) and Blockchain Gaming (http://www.blockchaingaming.com). No money has been invested yet, and I would not allow that to happen if this was a scam. Until it does, I request being given the benefit of the doubt about my involvement in the whole situation. We're actually discovering some interesting facts, right now, and have time yet to uncover them

If you are not involved in the project, why are you keeping the thread despite these *high alert* findings? Have you been paid to post the thread?

Remove or lock the thread in the meantime. I don't think people trust the wording "force an investigation" whilst you keep the thread open and let more people get suckered into this, highly likely, scam.

Well I work at NewsBTC and I was told to, yeah. I didn't investigate the project, at all, and assumed nothing bad would happen. I recognize that that was irresponsible. I am willing to delete the thread... I will do it now, actually, which you can verify. I will update you all here on the situation soon

UPDATE: It told me "You cannot delete your own topics in this board." Do I need to contact a moderator to delete my threads (never done it), and if so, which one?

To add:

Nominee (member of the ethereumplus.org team)


https://www.facebook.com/ethtrade/videos/466322063728728

The founder of ethereumplus.org MR. Ramaswamy Raja

https://i.imgur.com/fdAxGJD.png

https://i.imgur.com/yMmeCJw.png

https://i.imgur.com/a6VFgqt.png


You are only giving importance to this problem because someone in the DT can give you negative feedback, you did not care about people, you are only worrying about yourself, your reputation.

unbelievable

Told to, by whom? I wonder whether the person who told you to do this was paid or is part of the project.

Horribly irresponsible indeed.

You can lock it and then move it into archival for the time being. This option can be found in the lower left corner when you visit the thread.

https://i.imgur.com/70C0EgJ.png

I have now done so, thank you very much.


Our owner. I got mad at him and he was apologetic. We're discussing it, now, and I'll have information about the entire situation soon.


I'm really sorry, and you don't have to believe me, but that's not true; I've done a lot to help people in the community without any expectations. I would have been acting the same way without threat of having the Co-op's profile tarnished. I will continue to do the best I can to prove that

I understand we might not be on mutual platform, but putting such comments without any base is not good. I have been replying to your comments doesn't mean I am founder or owner.

You guys have worked hard to figure out people involved in the project, but did not noticed the very basic essence of platform COIN/ SMART CONTRACTS. Apart from this no one can stop you if you have decided, but your freedom of speech shouldn't defame someone.

You pointed/ alleged couple of members involved in team, which i took to board and you will see the results soon.

Lets play fair. Biased is something not really required here.

Comments without bases? You are seeing more than enough evidence linking the two sites.

If this Mr. Ramaswamy Raja is the founder of www.ethereumplus.org and is connected to the site ethtrade.org ( PONZI SITE)



If you are not the founder and are not the owner of the project, why the hell, you answering the questions asked in the ethereumplus.org thread?





Heh? I hope you are no longer a person to hack me every day, Dude I already have many scammers who hate me for having harmed their business.

You should not take revenge on me, just concentrate on doing something honest that you will have good results.

You seem to be some kind of paranoid, I am neither a scammer nor i want to hammer you. I decently requested you to avoid any kind of baseless debate.
If i am no hell to answer, at once lets agree. Then who are you a "Public Prosecutor" or waste man sitting idle with lot of time in hand to comment here there and everywhere.

On your point about Mr. Raja, I haven't crossed you yet, just wanted you all pay attention towards technology and mythology of ETHP. I am not resisting in any way to explore facts.
Please carry on with research.

I apologize for Aditya Sharma. I'm not sure which member of the Ethereum Plus group he is, but he was supposed to stop posting such comments. I was going to wait until my knowledge of the situation was more certain before posting anything more about it, but it appears that the member of the group associated with ETHTrade is arguing in its defense with the ones who are not. It would really make my night easier to wait until they are done and I know what exactly is happening, but I could intrigue you all with the emerging details of their soap opera if this bitcointalk debate gets out of hand.

I am Community Developer for ETHP. :) Now when you understand and know whats going inside the room, hopefully you also understand we are pretty serious on reputation part.
I have been trying to focus on project rather than individual.

https://www.ethereumplus.org/

Not professional editor wakakakakaka

Surprisingly, all the people involved are real. I don't know why they chose to edit certain pictures like that. Trouble is, the Raja guy is deep in ETHTrade, but he's kinda rich and influential in the community over there in India (which is why he's put as the founder). The other brains behind the operation don't care about ETHTrade and wanna publicly denounce it (which NewsBTC recommended), but Raja is threatening them. I'm guessing the remaining team members are either in Raja's pocket or remaining neutral due to fear. Trying not to name who's who, there.

I felt I should bring it up immediately, though, because I suspect Raja is already collecting pre-ICO funding without the consent of the rest of the team, all of which he would control. Even if you believe in the idea behind this project, it's obviously not wise to invest under those conditions. In my opinion (which I might already get yelled at for expressing thus far), they are likely to split up, which will be costly for the remaining (anti-ETHTrade) team members but free them of scammy influences... those still interested should wait for that to occur and hope the project still has momentum to continue. I honestly can't tell you

This whole project, and everyone related to it, should be neg. rated.

Speculation?

I don't think everyone in the project was dishonest, although those who aren't were startlingly naive to get into this position. I'm not going to defend them or their reputations, though, if anybody wishes to pursue that; just trying to convey my understanding of the situation. I think it would make things worse if I didn't attempt to do so.


One of them said so, but said it was just Raja's friends and associates, nobody from bitcointalk or the general community. Neither I nor NewsBTC were even aware of it, actually.

They should not be sticking around, all things considered.

To your knowledge, do they have any other accounts on Bitcointalk? NewsBTC and you should probably keep a distance from this project.

I'm pretty sure they don't. They're not really part of the global cryptocurrency community very much. Schemes such as ETHTrade, OneCoin, MMM Global, etc tend to prey locally on newbies, especially in developing countries. One of the CoinFest organizers who does a lot of work in Africa is actually being sued by OneCoin for defamation.

I have no doubt of that.



I have an idea why they decided to edit photos of the 2 team members, a few weeks ago I saw something scary on a blog about ethtrade, I guess that's why they edited this photo



One of these members of www.ethereumplus.org travels to several Asian countries to advertise ethtrade.

Another member of www.ethereumplus.org made charity in the philippines to publicize ethtrade.


I agree.

Which ones? I'm guessing it's not Sai Teja or Dinesh; they're the ones who wanted to denounce, and they run some legitimate businesses. But they've been silent for a little while now, so I fear Raja's combined tactics of intimidation and bribery may be having some success. They really only have difficult options, at this point.


Well obviously nobody wants to be involved with this situation, but you have to remember these are human beings with families and stuff. I will be honest with you about foul play I see, but my role is to help people. Those people are usually somewhat naive, or else they would not need help. So if the possibility exists that they are innocent, I can't just flatly ignore them if they need advice--that would hamper my ability to determine their innocence or guilt, anyways.

You're right, it's not them.



This is not surprising, ethtrade is running until today, the person behind the ethtrade must be someone with a lot of influence and enough power to threaten whoever is on his way.



Unfortunately the innocent are always harmed, what innocent people in this group must do is: get away from scam projects and create their own honest projects.

This reminds me of my country's politicians, they use poor and innocent people as perpetrators of their macabre crimes.

Raja was early investor of Ethtrade, and now he has nothing to do with it. ETHP is altogether different and has NO relation with Ethtrade. The progressive updates on way, please stay connected.

This is getting very interesting, you did not introduce yourself in the thread, raja and all of the team did not introduce themselves
 in the thread, but you want people to invest in your project?

Are the same people who invested in a ponzi site that fools people by saying they are a registered company in hong kong, in hong kong there is no registry of that ethtrade company.

Now you say that he (raja) is no longer connected to Ethtrade, should i assume that he (Raja) has withdrawn his money in Ethtrade and no longer invests in Ethtrade?

Why the hell does Raja take part Ethtrade's events? They are not simple events, they are events in many parts of Asia.

I bet this is, to my introduction. I did mentioned as Community Developer.

As iterated and re-iterated, I hardly keep any knowledge or information about Ethtrade. Although your question may be valid, but i am afraid i cannot answer that.

To my understanding and discussions with internal Team, i announced about Raja, when i say he is no longer connected, this means, he has nothing to do with Ethtrade.

I guess, can understand your pain. This is why i requested you to look at other verticals and roadmap of ETHP. You will surely find it interesting.

I appreciate your vigilance but being desperate is something not a valid outlook to business.

I been involved with Ethtrade cos a friend Yago pardavila was used as a face of the website along with many others who disapeared soon.

3 days before Blockchain london Loise close stoking sent me 3 pictures confirming my worst nightmare Ethtrade was a scam.

after invest most of my money in this company and help to collect funds i felt horrible. i did put a report on the police wondering if any day we will see who was behind of it.

Now looks much better, not enough with seize all accounts from USA UK and Europe, now they start another scam but this time with profile pictures, if any of you are real ill find you and tbring you to the justice even if this mind spend my last pound on it.


they have abuse from the confidence of thousands of investors.

pretty sure Candy dosent exist  but Loise close stoking and friends yes.


hope all of you finish in prison

Ruben

Wow! They actually titled this video "highlights", then proceeded to clip together scenes that were everything but highlights. I'll admit that they successfully juxtaposed the looks on all the principals' faces like deer caught in headlights at the beginning of the vid with seconds of this dude toward its end:


Yep, that was his highlight at the event, for if it wasn't, them Hendi brainiacs wouldn't have included it. Further, they successfully depicted the genuineness of their marks in attendance via their expressions, but missed the marked completely when they each and every time depicted themselves as unsavory characters.

glad to see you here i didnt have time to send you a PM

what is clear is ETHTRADE owners are  behind of this new "proyect"

Actually Candy is real!!!!! this is becoming surrealist

The fuck is VB doing associating with these tards?

please remove me from twitter bounty!! number 233 thanks i have to many doubts on this ico and do not want this token thanks.but good luck on your adventures

Yes, they are all real. Hopefully you are checking your PMs

I'm just gonna leave this here: http://www.findmugshots.com/arrests/louis_cloise_stocking_id_8136274.html

Now yes, im sorry y missed your message :) had few text yesterday and yours was in another page

Good morning lads


about the arrest of louise close stoking i did see sometime ago and a user called axisflip wrote in he knows really well this scammer/ metamphetamine dealer.

We could do a serie with at least 3 seasons

i did join them on slack, im making aware as much people i can.

Have any way to put down this website in a legal way???




edited:


Charges 1

Charge: BURGLARY
Charges 2

Charge: NONSUPPORT OF DEPENDENTS
Charges 3

Charge: BURGLARY - TRESPASS IN OCCUPIED STRUCTURE,SEPARATELY SECURED
Bond: 130000.00
Charges 4

Charge: SAFE - CRACKING
Charges 5

Charge: ENGAGING IN PATTERN OF CORRUPT ACTIVITY - CONDUCT, PARTICIPA
Bond: 0.00



look like the perfect blockchain consultor right???

You forgot something ...


Now he looks like the perfect blockchain consultor.

EDIT: Watch the very beginning of this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpAvk2xNsdU - and see seven people do the seal clap.

Now it's perfect.

Real -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuP3VIm2sWY


Bonus track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBN19FnT13Y

WOW! As in Bow Wow Wow. Talk 'bout surreal, the above track submission was meant at a joke till I noticed something ...


The chick resembles Candy, the dude in the back row on the right resembles Louis Cloise Stocking, and the dude, or whatever it is (bottom row left), quasi-mimics one of Louis' mannerism depicted below ...

they took their photos from the ethereumplus website and ethtrade website.

I hate the justice, cant believe any of them is in prison already, well louise has a court soon if he dont come back to USA for it, police will arrest him as soon as he puts a feet there.

but i assume he will hide his back in Asia......

Jesus Fucking Christ! This is way serious than I thought it would be.Bunch of Indian Scammers operating Ponzi sites from Dubai.I wonder why hasn't any Indian Official spoken against them or tried to stop them ? How far they have reached outside of the forum ? How much investments they have raised ? This is seeming like a corporate scam now.Fuck that women who wanted to become an escrow to the project.Don't they fear laws ?

Ha ha ha ha ha




she is beautiful

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/59/cd/c0/59cdc0c633ffb903aa01aab2e74ea1a2--emoticon-love-smiley-symbol.jpg





A true museum



It seems that Louis wanted to say: congratulations

---

It seems that ethtrade puts a background music in all the videos they do, with this background music can not hear what they say unless it's someone who is where they are.

https://www.facebook.com/ethtrade/videos/419868771707391/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

candy is one of the ethtrade leaders in Vietnam



Why did he do it?




They put another photo of the founder of the site ethereumplus

Https://www.ethereumplus.org/#team

And removed all photos from ethtrade team members




Unfortunately they are not arrested.

If only the US LEs were able to go into another country and arrest whomever they please, then rogue entities would think twice prior to attempting their nefarious acts. But I guess that that's something we'll never see in our lifetimes given that most countries are only able to enforce their laws withing their respective borders. So fuckin sad.  :'( Mark my words, one day the US will break the mold and match into any foreign land they wish so to arrest anybody they wish. I'm guessing that perhaps some rogue Russian holidaying in Greece may be an initial example of my farout vision. What do you think?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056243.0


That's takin' retard to a whole new level.  ::) ::) ::)

"Welcome to Ethereum Plus, ticker symbol ETHP. Please take a moment to participate in our poll so that we know what the fuck ETHP should stand for. Thank you. Team ETHP."

Them fuckin scammy retards didn't even the foresight to include Ethereum Plus as an option in their poll. I guess that's what happens to the brain when you're a vegan who prays to multiple gods while anally absorbing star anise incense, eh?

To be fair, perhaps ETHP took a page outta EOS' playbook: https://eos.io/faq.html


Personally, I believe that EOS acquired an available 3-letter .io domain not giving a fuckin shit as to what the letters would stand for, hence their clever FAQ entry.

If it were a terrorist, it would be clear that the US government  would send its spies to sequester the terrorist

Or if it was someone like Alexander Vinnik.



Of course, this will happen, as long as these retarded terrorists continue their actions, they are giving opportunity to US government.


The case of Vinnik is just the beginning of the US government wants to rule the world

Oh, these beaches are very beautiful

https://cms.hostelbookers.com/hbblog/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2010/12/Praias_Mykonos_Elias-Beach.jpg

ISLAND OF MYKONOS, GREECE

these scammers know how to enjoy life

I have not seen it ;D




@Aditya Sharma (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1086417) does not give up.

He wants to show that we are wrong about the project he participate. Strange that he is the only member of the ethereumplus team  that posts here on bitcointalk ;D

Ethereum plus is product, we referred  ETHP as Empowering Technology and people. But you people are damn busy in some confusing things, which wont help much but will resist adding common sense.
Anyways Common sense is not so common in every common person.

I request you guys again to read and study about product before you start releasing your abusive and UN-ethical comments.

GET WELL SOON FOLKS.

Okay, we had a meeting where we unanimously decided to start releasing ONLY ethical comments about ETHP, e.g. calling out team members whose likeness were gleaned elsewhere then later expunged from your site for reasons unknown, albeit we have an idea as to why. Why? Because we like you. M.I.C. ... K.E.Y ...

WE GOT OUR MIND RIGHT!

Im saving money to do this meeting with local authorities of another countries since will be difficult any of you go back to a country like US, or Uk hoppefully soon you get what you deserve, you guys are fuck uploading videos of charity.... youre not robin hood youre maddoff mate


thanks but i like how i think

Introducing the new EthTrade-cum-Ethereum Plus handshake:



Any questions?

For a change, I agree you this time. Yes, No one is Robin Hood here. Precisely they are businessman and charity is just to enrich and collaborate with society.
I can sense furiousity in your comment presented by lot many spelling mistakes.

Though i still appreciate your responsibility ownership towards society, which as if now seems desperation to kill ETHP rather understanding ETHP.

I again hereby declare, I am in no advocacy to ETHP. I am just saying lets gather the fact and understand the theorem behind ETHP. Before we finally judge.

Is this (arrow) Candy?


The guy standing is Chris "Normal People Create Normal Things" Cheon.

I'm just gathering the facts to understand the theorem behind ETHP so you can be the judge.

I'm just tryin' to understand the theorem as to how most, if not all, of ETHP's principals are directly connected to EthTrade when ETHP stuck it up are asses in declaring that such is not the case. Before we finally judge.

Question: Is Leroy Fodor handling your PR?

I'm just gonna leave this here as my right to exercise my theorem.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/candy-bui-08939b146/


Quick aside: Decades ago I went to a medium, but I don't recall if she told me that in one of my past lives I was a push-start or a pull-start. Namaste.

Joke:

A push-start and a pull-start walk into a bar:

Bartender: The usual? Pānī on the rocks and warm unt piss?

 :o

He said it, unbelievable, so show us in detail that



 ???

common sense?

Common Sense is a pamphlet written by Thomas Paine in 1775–76 advocating independence from Great Britain to people in the Thirteen Colonies.

Common sense is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things that are shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without need for debat

So I just see you do not understand the situation. ;D



What product? All I saw in his thread were photos of some ethtrade personalities (site ponzi).

Dude, somebody once told me: in a wood, Where has many nail, the nail crooked will be hammered

Will they leave their snacks to chat at bitcointalk?






This is the part that irritated me a lot, ethtrade facebook page has people complaining that they have not been paid and other people are complaining that they deposited money but the money does not appear in their ethtrade accounts and guess what the ethtrade do? Ignore these posts and continue to post videos of charities and their tours


ha ha ha ha ha ha


Can someone understand the theorem behind ETHP?



My brain is so small that i can not understand the theorem behind ETHP :'(

any news??

anyone knows where we can check how much money they did on their ICO???

They postponed it because their founder is busy getting harassed by all the people he signed up to ethtrade. I think he also got spooked at my accusation of him being the ethtrade founder... which would explain why ethtrade suddenly started admitting losses but trying to pivot to Bullcoin as a way to escape (or rather, prolong) their public collapse.

Sounds to me like the venerable Leroy "Honestly" Fodor is thier current consultant-in-cheif. HAHAHA


If you like Ethereum Plus, you're gonna love Blockchain Plus ...


Personally, I'm bullish for RateCoin 2.0.

ethtrade not found!!!!!

https://ethtrade.org/


NOTHING says trust us and our new coin thingy than having a landing page warning its marks that it can't be trusted.  ::) ::) ::)

Seriously, these fuckers NEED Leroy "Honestly" Fodor to get their shit together. I'm sure there's a price that Leroy will consider in giving up his gratis gig of island-hopping the Philippines, administering free meetups in teaching the locals how they, too, can go from nothing to operating mega-sized bitcoin mining farms in three months or less, predicated on number of days of sunshine beaming on west-facing solar arrays on hot tin roofs surrounded on three sides by towering trees powering the farms, living quarters, discos, etc.

http://prntscr.com/g7rf3f




::) ::) ::) ::)

I have to fix every fuckin thing 'round here!  :P :P :P

for this we love you gleb!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Wow, you kicked their ass... ha ha ha ha

I would like to see the face of these scammers, I bet they should be thinking:

Ramaswamy Raja: I'm going to take revenge bruno, you can be sure that I'm going to take revenge bruno, you took my retirement, you know how hard it is to live here in India? Now how do I pay for my coffee? How do I pay for a hotel? You took everything from me. :'( :'( :'(


Aditya Sharma Why you do not understand the theorem behind ETHP?  :'( :'(

Actually, I'm been to India and know firsthand that a cup of coffee costs ONLY ~5 rupees (less than a U$ dime).

If I understand the theorem of Hindi Gods correctly, I'm pretty sure it'd be impossible for me to take everything from a Hindu. I know I wouldn't take, let alone want Raja or Sharma's Chakra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra).

It seems vitalik has lost mind or maybe someone trying to impersonate him..
I thought vitalik will never visit Indonesian countries but I am wrong after seeing this pic....bufffff

wtf???? VB is supporting ethereumplus???


we must mislead something right?????


gleb please explain to me this

I was under the impression that VB was merely at the wrong place at the wrong time, giving him the benefit of doubt. I guess I'll go on record here and say that if he's hooked with this assholes, then his cred will be ruined.

I really doubt Vitalik has time for such clowns, lol

He took time to stand next to the clowns for the photoshoot. Are you saying that one of the brightest men in crypto isn't bright enough to vet some entity affiliating themselves with his brand prior to committing in having a pic taken standing among them?

I could see him making a mistake like that, yeah. Although I'm still not sure it's him in the picture I saw before

Let's fix this right now. That is not VB. That's the Novak clown.


Aside: I just now happened to check my Trust thingy and see I've been award more kind comments. Thanks, guys. Apologies for not returning the favor, for I personally have yet to partake in the program on this USELESS^{<according to Leroy "Honestly" Fodor>} forum.

Bruno

feedback system is not fair, and useless under my point of view many false profiles, many people with 2 or 3 accounts if theymos care about the forum its time to put some measures and block accounts

anyway we have more interesting things to debate

good morning to all,i have 2 days off!!!!!

Well, I hope you enjoy your two days off while I go and kill myself due to being enlighten that the Trust thingy is useless.  :P :P :P

It is very obvious now that Ethtrade & EthereumPlus are one. I heard lot of bitcoins and etherium was stolen from investors by these guys. I was almost a victim too by these people thru Ethtrade.org luckily i did not push thru my investment transactions due to Aug 1 event. Then after that the site is already a scam. Save by the bell, must warn the others about Ethereum Plus.

I dont know if there is a law againt bitcoins thieves because i think we cannot file a case against them in court because of running away our bitcoins. Maybe if a country using bitcoin as fiat then maybe a law for this will be created.

Will if these two persons of former staff of Ethtrade.org are now in this Ethereum Plus then it will be a 100% scam. If these Ethereum Plus will claimed that they will nothing to do with Ethrade scam then i say no employers were going to hire a persons with a background record of thieves and scammers. So tell them to the marines if they are clean.

That's generally happen, Scammers hire new scammers with previous scam history and looks that the employee doest not double tap or scam them itself. Generally a person with pseudo name or anonymous history will only join it.

Was selling Minexcoin on livecoin and then suddenly i got a nortification that ethereumplus is available with BTC/ETH pair for trade.
https://www.livecoin.net/en/trade/index?currencyPair=ETHP%2FBTC

Seems like these scammers are pushing this coin too hard.

These exchange list any coin since they profit from it, everyone wants profits, scammers want profits without effort, investors want profits and do not want to know if the coin was created by scammers, since they have a profit is what matters to them and the exchange list any currency since they make profits.

All about profits.