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Title: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: luanchau on August 04, 2017, 01:11:42 PM exchanger Bestbulkchanger.com has a scam or not ?
please give me review in site bestbulkchanger :) thanks ^^ Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: savioroshan on August 04, 2017, 07:45:48 PM Buddy, not heard about this site. Better not to use this site.
Always use sites that have well reputation and is active in this forum . Why to take risk?. You can use kraken or shapeshift instead of using unknown sites like bestbulkchanger.com Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: Emoclaw on August 04, 2017, 07:50:37 PM exchanger Bestbulkchanger.com has a scam or not ? No, use Bittrex/Poloniex/Coinbase/Kraken/Gemini etc.please give me review in site bestbulkchanger :) thanks ^^ That website not only looks like crap with fake testimonials and all that, it's not even automatic, you "contact" these people through a form if you want to exchange which is bullshit. Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: luanchau on August 05, 2017, 10:16:18 AM exchanger Bestbulkchanger.com has a scam or not ? No, use Bittrex/Poloniex/Coinbase/Kraken/Gemini etc.please give me review in site bestbulkchanger :) thanks ^^ That website not only looks like crap with fake testimonials and all that, it's not even automatic, you "contact" these people through a form if you want to exchange which is bullshit. thanks so much :) Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: bL4nkcode on August 05, 2017, 10:26:10 AM I've just searched this info from whois
Code: Updated Date: 2017-07-18T02:28:04Z Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: luanchau on August 05, 2017, 12:51:14 PM I've just searched this info from whois Code: Updated Date: 2017-07-18T02:28:04Z thank you so much So Where can I exchange? thanks Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on August 05, 2017, 01:53:31 PM thank you so much What actually you want to exchange? You can use changer.com if you want to exchange bitcoin to perfectmoney or viceversa. I have tried them before for small amount, just try them with small amount before trusting them completely.So Where can I exchange? thanks bestbulkchanger looks scamy, don't use them at any cost. Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: bL4nkcode on August 05, 2017, 02:00:14 PM I've just searched this info from whois Code: Updated Date: 2017-07-18T02:28:04Z thank you so much So Where can I exchange? thanks You can use Poloniex or Bittrex, but if you are from US I will not suggest coinbase because of the of the issue 'tax invasion' just search it on google so you will find it. Or you can try also Localbitcoins.com, they are the only one I know since then. Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: luanchau on August 05, 2017, 04:52:24 PM thank you so much What actually you want to exchange? You can use changer.com if you want to exchange bitcoin to perfectmoney or viceversa. I have tried them before for small amount, just try them with small amount before trusting them completely.So Where can I exchange? thanks bestbulkchanger looks scamy, don't use them at any cost. I have a little walmart gift cards, I want to exchanger to PM, PP or btc I want to find a reputable person for transaction Do you know anyone? thanks :) Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: TryNinja on August 05, 2017, 05:01:15 PM I have a little walmart gift cards, I want to exchanger to PM, PP or btc Create a thread on the Digital goods board[1] and try to find a buyer there.I want to find a reputable person for transaction Do you know anyone? thanks :) or try to sell using Paxful[2] [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0 [2] https://paxful.com/buy-bitcoin/walmart-gift-card Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: bbcwholesell on August 07, 2017, 08:29:32 AM Hi All,
Thanks for all your feedback and post. I read them all. Im a staff of this company. Really people get scared of new site. We are new online does not mean we are new and do not have experience for exchange. 1. We are known locally in our country and we established our site link to serve international clients who were refereed to us by our country clients and since then many from other countries has joined us and get their ecurrency exchanged. 2. its not a crime to be a new company or have a new site. 3. not all new service are scam. 4. yes many service has scammed people but we have built our service in customer satisfaction, trust and integrity. We have no gain to scam anyone as when we satisfy our customers they will bring more customers to us and that means more business and more profit for us. Finally, When our service progress more we shall have a more unique website. Thanks everyone bestbulkchanger.com is 100% genuine and we shall always remain real and genuine. Regards, Natalie. Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 08, 2017, 03:47:27 PM This website bestbulkchanger.com is a scam with 99.9999% certaintly.
Here are the facts: #1 Upon initial contact they asked if I want to exchange $3000 and then wrote many, many emails gradually lowering the sum to $900 #2 I sent them a few hundred bucks a few days ago, all I have now is them asking for more money (on numerous occasions) and telling stories about Poloniex #3 Not only the site looks crappy, it's operated from another country than alleged company is registered in, and it's new #4 They use @gmail.com account, not even setting up GSuite with their custom domain #5 One of the words in their gmail username is wrong: should be bccwholesale; this means they probably changed it a couple of times already; or just illiterate #6 My correspondence with them is 50 messages now, some are lengthy. This is for claimed fee of $20 that they would earn on this transaction. No legitimate business can spend that amount of time. Also, their operations are not automated #7 If they are really experiencing issues with Poloniex, let them present the proof here #8 They use different Payoneer email, not the @gmail one: pay@zizitrading.com #9 Their threads on this forum are locked for comments, to prevent scammed users like me from posting I had another user with similar email on this forum but that was hacked so I had to create this new one. Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: BitMaxz on August 08, 2017, 05:33:04 PM As what i see on the site i saw that their exchange page is not finish yet ..
Look at this page https://bestbulkchanger.com/exchange/ you can see a form which is where you can fill up the form but when choosing you have bitcoin the the amount still usd.. And this page also you can't see any here in this page https://bestbulkchanger.com/investment/ only the image you can see unprofessional design and not finish yet.. so i advice to beware about this site possible its scam site. . Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 08, 2017, 06:58:41 PM Did some more research.
The meme "Zizi Trading" from the Payoneer acc email is connected with Romania. Scamadviser.com also says the BestBulkChanger website is operated from there. Whereas it says Singapore on the website. Google search for bbcwholesell gives result on http://www.nairaland.com/ - that's the only ad apart from here on this forum. How could I not have paid attention to the country of that forum - Nigeria? I did google "her" email in search of scam alerts! Can this info be useful? Quote Domain Name: zizitrading.com Registry Domain ID: 1983957480_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com Registrar URL: https://www.namesilo.com/ Updated Date: 2017-08-07 Creation Date: 2015-11-25 Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-11-25 Registrar: NameSilo, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 1479 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4805240066 Reseller: Mocohost Status: clientTransferProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Domain Administrator Registrant Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org Registrant Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255 Registrant City: Phoenix Registrant State/Province: AZ Registrant Postal Code: 85016 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.3478717726 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: pw-f404bc515d9c57aa56fd357bddc5d635@privacyguardian.org Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: Domain Administrator Admin Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org Admin Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255 Admin City: Phoenix Admin State/Province: AZ Admin Postal Code: 85016 Admin Country: US Admin Phone: +1.3478717726 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: pw-f404bc515d9c57aa56fd357bddc5d635@privacyguardian.org Registry Tech ID: Tech Name: Domain Administrator Tech Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org Tech Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255 Tech City: Phoenix Tech State/Province: AZ Tech Postal Code: 85016 Tech Country: US Tech Phone: +1.3478717726 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: pw-f404bc515d9c57aa56fd357bddc5d635@privacyguardian.org Name Server: ns111.mochahost.com Name Server: ns112.mochahost.com DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ Domains - cheap, easy, and secure at NameSilo.com http://www.namesilo.com BestBulkChanger: IP Address 188.241.58.14 - 212 other sites hosted on this server IP Location Romania - Neamt - Bicaz - Chroot Network Srl ASN Romania AS51177 THCPROJECTS, RO (registered Apr 14, 2016) Quote Domain Name: BESTBULKCHANGER.COM Registry Domain ID: 2125523840_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com Registrar URL: www.publicdomainregistry.com Updated Date: 2017-05-18T11:05:24Z Creation Date: 2017-05-18T11:05:22Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-05-18T11:05:22Z Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com Registrar IANA ID: 303 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry Registrant Name: Domain Admin, C/O ID#10760 Registrant Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org Registrant Street: PO Box 16 Registrant City: Nobby Beach Registrant State/Province: Queensland Registrant Postal Code: QLD 4218 Registrant Country: AU Registrant Phone: +45.36946676 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: Registry Admin ID: Not Available From Registry Admin Name: Domain Admin, C/O ID#10760 Admin Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org Admin Street: PO Box 16 Admin City: Nobby Beach Admin State/Province: Queensland Admin Postal Code: QLD 4218 Admin Country: AU Admin Phone: +45.36946676 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: Registry Tech ID: Not Available From Registry Tech Name: Domain Admin, C/O ID#10760 Tech Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org Tech Street: PO Box 16 Tech City: Nobby Beach Tech State/Province: Queensland Tech Postal Code: QLD 4218 Tech Country: AU Tech Phone: +45.36946676 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: Name Server: ns1.thcservers.com Name Server: ns2.thcservers.com Name Server: ns3.thcservers.com Name Server: ns4.thcservers.com DNSSEC:Unsigned Registrar Abuse Contact Email: Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.2013775952 URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 08, 2017, 07:35:27 PM ... 1. We are known locally in our country and we established our site link to serve international clients who were refereed to us by our country clients and since then many from other countries has joined us and get their ecurrency exchanged. ... Which one - Singapore, Romania, Nigeria? My best bet is the latter. Your nairaland.com posting seems to be a Proof-of-Concept. Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words. I would post a screenshot of a first page of Google results with query Quote bestbulkchanger if I were not a newbie. All needed information is on that page.It's not even Alexa-ranked according to e.g. http://webfind.me/www/bestbulkchanger.com - traffic is too low! Meanwhile "Natalie" "who worked for Payoneer" continues to make fantastic claims about 1800 happy customers, $35K held by Poloniex and rejects any suggestions to verify those claims. Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 09, 2017, 12:43:21 PM Country is still unknown.
Went to their live chat on the site and asked if they have Singaporean landline in their "office of 5 staff, serious and legit". They refused to talk to me. Social icons on website, Facebook and Twitter, but they have no social media presence, links are inexistent. How is that possible with 1800 clients? Moderators - can you kindly check their IPs? do they use VPN/TOR here? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1014271 Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: CageKennylz on August 09, 2017, 05:28:49 PM Used it a couple times and it was fine.
Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 10, 2017, 08:12:12 AM Asked to call them on Singaporean phone number.
This is what I got in response: Quote If you want to meet us please Monday to Friday 9am to 3pm Singapore time. Our office address is on our website. Visit our office with code ( Alex45689 Visit Pass ) The security will allow you in. It's ridiculous, serious and legit business refusing to give me a number I can Skype out to. There's no real company behind BestBulkChanger: they use 27-years old company's number on their site. That 27-years old company doesn't even suspect about that. Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: luanchau on August 10, 2017, 02:01:02 PM thanks all
Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: Hamphser on August 10, 2017, 03:25:59 PM Buddy, not heard about this site. Better not to use this site. I would really definitely do the same thing too and as you said why would use other service if there are sites which are more reputable than on the site have been mentioned aboved? You are just risking your money on that one and everything that you looks suspicious and shady then better to stay away directly on it if you dont really like to suffer unexpected things might happen.Always use sites that have well reputation and is active in this forum . Why to take risk?. You can use kraken or shapeshift instead of using unknown sites like bestbulkchanger.com Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 10, 2017, 06:08:54 PM I would really definitely do the same thing too and as you said why would use other service if there are sites which are more reputable than on the site have been mentioned aboved? You are just risking your money on that one and everything that you looks suspicious and shady then better to stay away directly on it if you dont really like to suffer unexpected things might happen. The reason I fell for it (apart from haste and credulity) was greed. They managed to persuade me that they have a buyer for Payoneer funds who pays a premium. Some shitty country with insane capital controls, thought I. Okay, I believe you that you can exchange Payoneer 1:1 without fees once I reach some volume. If I would use Payoneer as usual Mastercard on an exchanger, I would lose at least 1.5% in Payoneer fees + 3% Mastercard fee. Also, I would risk being spotted by Payoneer and my acc. would be closed. (Obviously that risk remains if you use operators like this one, if their acc. get busted, yours could be as well). If only I knew about Bitwage back then. Or if only I asked for escrow up front. Or if only I did it in $100 chunks... This is from correspondence with them (from one of the 69 messages written so far): Quote Its sad this happened to us. What happened is what we have explained to you the way we have not done to any other client and what i can tell you is that, you will never say we are scam until you complete it to $400 and then we didn't pay then you will say we are scam. Basically, it tells that until I send them $400 more I cannot say they are scam!Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 12, 2017, 07:16:56 PM August 11, 2017, 12:16:22 PM
Quote #31 We can buy bulk of Payer funds also. Visit our site, click exchange and send your orders. Order is completed in minutes absolutely. Absolutely. Waiting for 11 days now. Will be posting updates of the situation here so that this thread doesn't leave the #1 position in Google search. Least anyone else will fall for this! Their story about Poloniex doesn't even make sense: exchangers do not operate by depositing small orders of fiat. They buy BTC in bulk at a discount and then resell during the day. So how they can open new trades if they have empty wallet? Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: ibrokab on August 24, 2017, 02:52:22 PM August 11, 2017, 12:16:22 PM Quote #31 We can buy bulk of Payer funds also. Visit our site, click exchange and send your orders. Order is completed in minutes absolutely. Absolutely. Waiting for 11 days now. Will be posting updates of the situation here so that this thread doesn't leave the #1 position in Google search. Least anyone else will fall for this! Their story about Poloniex doesn't even make sense: exchangers do not operate by depositing small orders of fiat. They buy BTC in bulk at a discount and then resell during the day. So how they can open new trades if they have empty wallet? Any update? Title: Re: Is the bestbulkchanger.com safe? Post by: byteball on August 24, 2017, 07:40:00 PM Any update? Nothing new, they are probably still looking for new "customers" here (and at least on 1 more forum).Actually, they even sent me their spam on 08 Aug although it should've been obvious to them that I was already scammed :) I will post Scam Accusation into appropriate thread when I have time. What I would really like to find out, is this guy from Nigeria or not? Perhaps admins of this forum can know this. Google doesn't show GMail user's IP in the headers anymore. I tried to send a link to a photo in email, but he was clever enough not to click on it. Because if it's 419 scam, then it's a *milestone* for Bitcoin! I can post my funny story to Steem and earn some $$$ back ;-) However, http://www.nairaland.com/3656864/how-know-bitcoin-scammer-nigeria oops - I'm probably not the first one. |