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Any speculations? What do you think about investing into zec or mining zec?

Any alternatives for mid / long term invest / mining?

Not know much about ZEC. It's based on zero-knowledge proof, suppose to have more privacy and selective transparency. But, ETC plans to integrate zero-knowledge proof as well in the future.

You can think for the long term mining rather than to use the zec as for mid or long term investment, because the supply os really low. I mean it will be so easy for zcash to surpass or in top 10 coin.
Because that was a good zero knowledge coin.

They were a large hype in the news on their release. They are still one of the profitable coin for miners. But they are nothing more that a bitcoin fork with increased level of anonymity.

I have kind of ignored Zcash so far, but I heard a story about them on radiolab and it definitely piqued my interest. I'm researching them now.

good profit for miners, not the best but still.

So good thing is to longterm mine and hold till something good happends, what about other altcoins? Which might have potential in longterm, i know its hard to say but what are your thoughts.

I mean HUSH (~8coints / day ) Signatum (~200 coins / day) ZEN (~1,5-2 coins / day) and more...

Do you see any potential in some other altcoins even if they are less profitable atm?

Currently ZEC has high inflation because of the fast coin issuance. The technology is revolutionary and has potential. If governments get hostile towards crypto I think the anonymous ones like ZEC and XMR will gain momentum.

it seems like the price never pump after the rumor that poloniex dislist ZEC, the main reason i think people began to consider whether anonymity is necessary

This would be great for long term investors because ZEC prices would rise sharply if this happens and it could be a new industrial revolution in the world and will create a niche market.

Zec can invest long term..

Yes and many exchangers start accept zec and ZEC will be listed on BithumbExchange on the 28th September, it will takes impact on ZEC's price would rise, we can check about ZEC on bithumbexchange on here http://bithumb.cafe/archives/11945
But you must use Google translate because the language on the link is not use English language but it will be easy to be translated by Google in English language and could be understood.

My friend gets a zec and ether. He says that if you invest and wait for growth, then it's better ETH , and if you need to bring out the Fiat it's better to have a zec. But personally, my opinion that it is better to invest in ETH - I believe in it more

Too old for me

They talk about ZEC with its anonymity, but as I know the best coin on this is XMR, so I buy some XMR along with ETH and BTC.
My friend said ZEC pumped just because it is listed in Bithumb, maybe it's good for speculating in a short term. 

The other reason ZEC will be pumped because of this statement of Edward Snowden: Zcash Is 'Most Interesting Bitcoin Alternative': Noted whistleblower Edward Snowden has come out in support of the privacy-oriented cryptocurrency zcash, calling it the "most interesting alternative" to bitcoin.

Writing in response to a tweet from technologist Mason Borda which read: "Zcash is the only altcoin (that i know of) designed and built by professional and academic cryptographers. Hard to ignore," Snowden replied, "Agree." Take look on here https://www.coindesk.com/edward-snowden-zcash-is-most-interesting-bitcoin-alternative/

I think Zcash is a sleeper coin that has great features and one day will skyrocket in value one people catch on to its utility.

Zcash has only been out for just under a year with roughly 10% (2.3 Million/21 million) of its maximum supply mined so far. The developers also control a good portion of this (20%) so there is even less in the hands of traders and individuals.

Once enough coins get in the hands of the market manipulators, we will probably see more action, but right now I think it is intentionally being kept low so big players can continue to accumulate as much as they can get their hands on.

I fully believe Zcash has $1,000+ potential within the next 2 years and have had at least a few rigs mining it since its launch.

I think this is the same crypto currency as everyone else? You just need to answer the questions. Is it bargaining? Where is it traded? Is the volatility large? Trading volumes are large? It's just stupid to do a technical analysis.

We'll wait till it pumps and I will sell everything I have. Don't want to hold it anymore.

Zcash is currently ranked 14th in the coinmarket, my advice you will be more profitable if mine coins are ranked top ten in coinmarket. NEM, IOTA and Monero can be an alternative for you and note for NEO you do not glance at it because the movement of the chart is still unstable right after the regulation of china.

Ethereum, Zcash,Bitcoin look like they are joined together. If you look at their graphs. whenever bitcoin drops, so does zcash. If bitcoin increases in value, Zcash does the same.

Where is correlation between ZEC and BTC movement? https://i.imgur.com/qCL75JX.png

Yes but  Zcash will be listed on CEX.IO!
They are excited to announce a new market on CEX.IO — Zcash, one of the top existing cryptocurrencies. The market launches with 4 pairs available for trading:
ZEC/BTC
ZEC/USD
ZEC/EUR
ZEC/GBP
Depending on the demand, they will consider adding more pairs with Zcash, as well as margin trading, in future.
CEX.IO team is thoroughly investigating the market and demand when considering to launch trading of any altcoin. Provided the technology and protocol behind Zcash, they believe that the addition of this cryptocurrency is a worthy improvement of their services.
I think the price will be pumped.

I think ZEC whale is crazy. Also I think that ZEC is super cheap right now and has got a good backing recently by the likes like Edward Snowden. People even have started to call it better the Monero. I have a bag of ZEC, for long term- 3-4 months, lets see how things fold for this one.

LOL!


How did Edward responded to mining subsidy? A lot of your hashrate would go to the company.
And there is another issue... did you ever compiled the ZEC wallet yourself? Seen how man requests are branching out to fetch additional binary data?

The marketcap of this coin doesn't make me confident in holding it. I'm probably wrong, but I think I'll drop them as soon as I can.

zec last year had a value, almost like a monero coin but zec using crytography has a complex class, mathematicians can raise a hand ..
Probably for the current volume of about $ 56,972,700 or 12,895 BTC ..

I think Zcash have a good future.
I support the use of cryptocurrencies, like ZEC as a currency for all kinds of purchases. when you will spend ZEC in OpenBazaar, it's a good way for growth.
I hope it will pumping in future.
See ZEC price : https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash

They did implemented ZEC over there? The first approach of tying Monero into OpenBazaar has timed out, and people reacted very frustrated about their donations in the project.

ZEC is the one of the coin which is mine with the GPU mining and the traders also now buying coins like ZEC, Monero, Neo and etc... You have to watch the price dump and bump carefully to passout in the value wise. Even in miner gate ZEC is the one of the profitable mining move but I always prefer Monero and BCN also now.

I have got an updating about the zec, but i don't know it will be effect to the price
The Zcash Foundation is now officially a 501(c)(3) Public Charity. You may not be particularly interested in non-profit tax law, but if you are passionate about the Internet, privacy, and the future of public infrastructure, then this is important news. the Zcash Foundation is now the first public charity dedicated to building internet payments and privacy infrastructure for the public good.
https://z.cash.foundation//blog/zcash-foundation-officially-nonprofit/

Totally agree with you. And relying on a rustc version that was released literally the day before the Zcash trust setup ISO's were built, smells bad as Peter Todd‏ revealed:
 
https://petertodd.org/assets/commitments/b5b297ee39639504309655f86d3b553d4b3877f7f8d6f495b53939020fc554b6.txt

I think it is not for long-term Investment. You should select the top 10 coins which is listed in cryptocurrency.

Why not? If we want make investment for long term must use the analysis fundamental of the coin include zcash, the fetures of zcash  not shared by other coins, you can find all of information about ZEC on this the official website https://z.cash/
The top Ten coins which is listed in currency usually on https://coinmarketcap.com/ doesn't mean it is good for long term investment due to it can move up and down (the fluctuating in the price).

ZEC is unfair project, because miners will donate 20% of mining coins to the development team, which is unfair to me, I will us Monero for anonymous transactions.

I think today ZEC is good for long term investment because there is good news Zcash Investment Trust has officially Filed with the SEC
The Zcash Investment Trust is a positive sign for Zcash as institutional investors can now diversify their crypto-currency holdings beyond Bitcoin and Ethereum Classic with the Bitcoin and Ethereum Classic Investment Trusts. https://medium.com/@ChuckSRQ/breaking-news-zcash-investment-trust-has-officially-filed-with-the-sec-1a0291bf73fc

ZEC be more better because This morning, Grayscale Investments launched the Zcash Investment Trust. Grayscale, a trusted authority on digital currency investments, has $1.2 billion in assets under management. The Zcash Investment Trust is its third investment vehicle, following the Bitcoin Investment Trust (OTCQX: GBTC) and the Ethereum Classic Investment Trust.
The Trust’s shares are the first securities solely invested in Zcash. The investment objective of the Trust is for the shares to reflect the value of the ZEC held by the Trust, determined by reference to the TradeBlock ZEC Composite Reference Rate at 4:00 p.m. New York time, less the Trust’s expenses and other liabilities. The Trust is a passive investment vehicle that is not actively managed.

Zec is the first project wich has invented and implemented zero knowledge protocol at their network. I guess it's very good pick for mid- and long-term HODL. BTW take a look at ZEN. It costs much less but it has huge potential to grow up to ZEC cap.

I am a long term investor of ZEC, i believe its technology and may not like other ico pump at once, but i think it will pump sooner or later.

Zcash is also showing its movement. As most of cryptocurrencies it has started running after it was walking. I know guys who mine this currency and get profit, but they use cool hardware.
Probably you’ll be interested in this calculator:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/zec?HashingPower=200&HashingUnit=H%2Fs&PowerConsumption=200&CostPerkWh=0.12

I do not think that mining of ZEC is as lucrative as it used to be earlier. With the rising popularity the of ZEC its mining difficulty has been increasing. For me instead of mining I would instead directly buy this one.

I really missed out on this. It's a good investment had it been someone could get in when it was cheap.

Yes trading altcoins with ZEC is good than mining ZEC especially when there is new updating from the developers ZEC
today Zcash v1.0.13 is out and it's a good one! Low memory proving, This first implementation of payment disclosure
enables a sender to present a proof that they transferred funds to a recipient's shielded address. & more!
Usually it will be effect on the price to be more expensive but there is not guarantee about it and it is not advice for investment.

It started a year ago, it has a mining support
But it's not very profitable of mining
Money transfer is fast the only advantage of this

I like ZEC because the developers makes updating like this Dev update - Dec 1: Progressing on 1.0.14 (due at the start of the new year), Network upgrade 0 planning and development, expanding the team, UX research, AMA next week, etc. This versions includes a lot of great improvements such as streamed proving for reducing the memory load in transactions involving shielded addresses and an experimental feature to test selective disclosure. https://t.co/KYh5xl5NWi

I think ZEC or Zcash is the coolest alt for mining. It is also growing steadily.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/ 

It is absolutely anonymous and supported by large investors. Here is the video about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWuK7ETMkt4

Zec is solid the alternative coin in community, investors and the development. New updating from Dev update - Dec 8: Continued work on 1.0.14, Overwinter and Sapling network upgrades, hiring, UX guideline development and just ended their end of the year AMA. Here the detail of information about it, i hope i don't late share about this updating and it can helps for us, https://forum.z.cash/t/december-8-2017-dev-update/23971

I like ZEC verty much and I'm investing in it everytime it goes down...  i think privacy and anonymity will be more  and more important ;)

Yes it is the fetures of zec also Dev alway makes update - January 8: 1.0.14 released (includes viewing key support which means shielded address watch-only capability for wallets & node supported shielded value tracking); Overwinter & Sapling network upgrade specification work; and more! https://t.co/cdPzn6m38C

i really don't know much about zec whether mining or something else but the thing i knew that it is making a lot of traction among the crypto community so i think it is a good investment.

One of my coins in the top for production! look at the DASH, it was also mined very much and what prices it has grown! with Zcash will be the same!

No real use for it beyond Bitcoin exchanges. I wouldn't be in the city trying to get a store to use ZEC by any chance.

Zec has good progress like The zk-STARK paper has been published: "Scalable, transparent, and post-quantum secure computational integrity" https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/046 co-authored by Zcash scientist, Eli Ben-Sasson. Congrats to Eli and co-authors! I don't know how much of you who follow the the progress of zec but i think zec is one of the best alternative coins, it is always updated by the developer and community.

Trading platforms in Japan may stop working with coins Dash, Monero and Zcash because of  the fact that these coins are used for money laundering and other illegal activities. Think about it before investing.