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Title: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.3 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on May 22, 2013, 07:53:16 PM Come play Satoshi Buckets (http://satoshibuckets.bitshy.org), a game with a winning strategy! Here's the rules:
Click to get the current status: https://i.imgur.com/9wgIL4a.png (http://satoshibuckets.bitshy.org) Check current status. (http://satoshibuckets.bitshy.org) Newbie version of this thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213362.0) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 22, 2013, 10:40:52 PM Just a heads up. I changed the minimum amount per round requirement. Now it's only necessary for there to be ฿0.01 in each bucket for a round to be triggered on new block. This means that, at this exact moment, anyone betting on the green bucket has an expected payout of 120%.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: KingOfSports on May 22, 2013, 11:57:22 PM This is kind of neat. No idea if its going to get much attention but I'll send .01 to try it out shortly ;D
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 23, 2013, 12:14:34 AM Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: CoinBomb on May 23, 2013, 12:26:55 AM How do the "payout" numbers work? its a bit confusing...
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 23, 2013, 12:46:09 AM How do the "payout" numbers work? its a bit confusing... Thanks for the feedback! I will try to include an explanation on the page. Here is what the numbers mean. Each payout is a number "x1.1" or "x0.9" or something. You multiply this number by how many Bitcoins you spent. So if you spent "0.01 BTC", a payout of "x1.1" means a payout of "0.011 BTC". Now let me explain what the various payout numbers mean:
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 23, 2013, 02:17:21 AM How do the "payout" numbers work? its a bit confusing... I removed the payout percentage numbers. Is this less confusing? Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 23, 2013, 06:28:21 AM Yay, got my first payout :)
Go blue! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: Zaih on May 23, 2013, 06:38:54 AM Cool concept, I really like it. Hopefully more people play so the pool gets a bit bigger :D
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 23, 2013, 08:34:21 AM Yay, got my first payout :) Go blue! Hehehe, congrats! Cool concept, I really like it. Hopefully more people play so the pool gets a bit bigger :D Thanks! That would be nice. More people playing it means there is a bit more strategy, too. I'm a fan of games that aren't just pure chance! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 23, 2013, 02:12:10 PM Satoshi Buckets has passed the ten round mark! In the last ten rounds:
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: Hfleer on May 23, 2013, 05:50:53 PM Satoshi Buckets has passed the ten round mark! In the last ten rounds:
You should add a history of previous bucket falls on the game webpage, and perhaps estimate of when the next round will decide(assuming all buckets are funded). Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: Hfleer on May 23, 2013, 07:18:45 PM How do the "payout" numbers work? its a bit confusing... Thanks for the feedback! I will try to include an explanation on the page. Here is what the numbers mean. Each payout is a number "x1.1" or "x0.9" or something. You multiply this number by how many Bitcoins you spent. So if you spent "0.01 BTC", a payout of "x1.1" means a payout of "0.011 BTC". Now let me explain what the various payout numbers mean: from satoshibuckets.bitshy.org: "A round is triggered every time a new block is mined, as long as each bucket has at least ฿0.01. The bucket that falls depends on the last two hex digits of the mined block: if c0 or higher, the blue bucket falls (probability 64/256); if between 6b and bf, the green bucket falls (probability 85/256); if 6a or lower, the red bucket falls (probability 107/256). Only confirmed transactions over ฿0.01 are part of the round. When a bucket falls: 0.5% of its value is returned to its backers (to signal the fallen bucket), 3% of its value is donated to Bitshy Productions, a transaction fee is paid, and then the remaining value is split in half. Each half is divided equally among the supporters of the other two buckets" Maybe it would be easier if you change the avg. payouts number to the estimated expected value amount for a .01 bet and/or other various bet amounts placed on that bucket(estimated since future bets could alter it). edit. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 23, 2013, 07:20:27 PM You should add a history of previous bucket falls on the game webpage, and perhaps estimate of when the next round will decide(assuming all buckets are funded). Thanks for the feedback! I do want to add a history, soon. As for next round estimate, I'm afraid it is not quite possible: at any given moment the estimated next round time is around 10 minutes away (when difficulty is adjusted). However, I could do something similar to vanity miner: give the current probability that a round will have already triggered, and tell you when the probability reaches certain milestones (50%, 75%, 90%, etc). For example, "Round probability: 52% (75% in 3 minutes)." Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: Boelens on May 23, 2013, 07:46:36 PM This seems like great fun! Go Red and Blue!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: Hfleer on May 23, 2013, 09:27:01 PM You should add a history of previous bucket falls on the game webpage, and perhaps estimate of when the next round will decide(assuming all buckets are funded). Thanks for the feedback! I do want to add a history, soon. As for next round estimate, I'm afraid it is not quite possible: at any given moment the estimated next round time is around 10 minutes away (when difficulty is adjusted). However, I could do something similar to vanity miner: give the current probability that a round will have already triggered, and tell you when the probability reaches certain milestones (50%, 75%, 90%, etc). For example, "Round probability: 52% (75% in 3 minutes)." Ok, what if you have a timer. After all the buckets receive at least 1 bet, a 15 minute timer starts. When timer reaches 0, then the next block decides. That would allow the pots to get larger, and players will have a better chance of knowing whether or not their bet will make it in a given round. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 23, 2013, 09:37:35 PM I can confirm that block 0000000000000063db17bc3c0d4dcb6b5fd0ba2d0bc0a50fe826f61b6e5e3e83 (http://blockchain.info/block-index/385654/0000000000000063db17bc3c0d4dcb6b5fd0ba2d0bc0a50fe826f61b6e5e3e83) was accidentally skipped. I was restarting and fixing the Satoshi Buckets daemon when a block fell through. Fortunately the next block, 000000000000013befd159d14fa549c52d5e9dbc1596e0ed254e742b31b4e38c (http://blockchain.info/block-index/385655/000000000000013befd159d14fa549c52d5e9dbc1596e0ed254e742b31b4e38c) falls in the same range, so nothing was affected.
Full disclosure: The design for Satoshi Buckets is provably fair, unless some block is missed. I, the administrator, could theoretically have set up the server so that I decide which blocks are acted on, and which ones are missed, in order to manipulate which buckets fall. I don't do this, and I won't do this, and I don't have time to engage in such actions when there are real features to implement and other software to write. The only way to make Satoshi Buckets completely provably fair is to make it go back and check every block that has happened. This feature is a little bit beyond my capabilities right now. So to mitigate the possibility for abuse, I will try to keep Satoshi Buckets from missing any blocks, and I make the following pledge: From now on, if I ever add money to any bucket, I will add the same amount of money to all the buckets. (As a donation to players, and to keep the rounds coming.) This way there is no incentive for me to manipulate the buckets (which I won't do, either). My main address is 1Ftr7B5U4DVsCh1q2mh3XLmH25XeeU7P9F (http://blockchain.info/address/1Ftr7B5U4DVsCh1q2mh3XLmH25XeeU7P9F). I use the address below (in my signature) only to receive donations to Bitshy Productions. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 24, 2013, 01:08:32 AM Bug in calculating transaction fees caused blue bucket not to fall on block 00000000000001245368c5bd7af28e67a97dff2ad001e895d816d862a98103e1 (http://blockchain.info/block-index/385670/00000000000001245368c5bd7af28e67a97dff2ad001e895d816d862a98103e1). Instead, red bucket fell on the next block. Bug has been fixed, and a reimbursement has been issued to the lone backer of the red bucket: 19SkgDGkD7GGcCtLMxQzToHBJm37fcBLLE (http://blockchain.info/address/19SkgDGkD7GGcCtLMxQzToHBJm37fcBLLE).
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 24, 2013, 01:14:49 AM The blue bucket has made me so much profit so far :D
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: KingOfSports on May 24, 2013, 01:24:16 AM The blue bucket has made me so much profit so far :D Same! I can now afford to buy a mcdouble now for free! ;DTitle: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 24, 2013, 02:36:05 AM The blue bucket has made me so much profit so far :D Same! I can now afford to buy a mcdouble now for free! ;DBwahahahah! The blue bucket finally fell, after a 15-round streak! All buckets must fall ... eventually. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: scalar33 on May 24, 2013, 03:13:22 AM The blue bucket has made me so much profit so far :D Same! I can now afford to buy a mcdouble now for free! ;DBwahahahah! The blue bucket finally fell, after a 15-round streak! All buckets must fall ... eventually. Woohoo! Down with the buckets! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 24, 2013, 01:09:11 PM You should add a history of previous bucket falls on the game webpage, and perhaps estimate of when the next round will decide(assuming all buckets are funded). I added a round timer! Also, history is now available (if you want it) at /live/history.csv (http://satoshibuckets.bitshy.org/live/history.csv). I'll figure out a way to incorporate this into the web page, later. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: vlees on May 24, 2013, 01:16:10 PM You should add a history of previous bucket falls on the game webpage, and perhaps estimate of when the next round will decide(assuming all buckets are funded). I added a round timer! Everytime I press F5 it just starts from 5:00 again. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 24, 2013, 01:47:09 PM Everytime I press F5 it just starts from 5:00 again. That is by design. The clock only measures how likely it is that a block will have fallen since you started waiting. If you refresh the page, it counts as if you've started waiting again. This is because a round will happen with the same probability at any given time -- the probability doesn't go up over time, only the cumulative probability. By the way, you shouldn't need to press F5, ever. Satoshi Buckets updates the page automatically. I think there is a slight bug in the clock code, but that isn't quite it! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: BitDonkey on May 24, 2013, 11:49:51 PM Interesting game.
I think there are still some kinks to work out. Like right now green bucket shows 0.02, which fell about 4 blocks ago according to the history file. The history file shows subsequent blocks to be no play because green bucket is 0 according to the file. It showed 0.02 before the green fall (on screen) but paid out like 0.01 just like it represented in history file. (I had/have the red bucket paid in) Seems like the screen refresh is behind but the history file is probably accurate. Interesting that when you add to the bucket though the screen shows it almost instantly. FYI I don't see any pending transactions for the green bucket to account for the 0.02 on screen. Keep up the good times with bitcoin! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on May 25, 2013, 12:25:17 AM Im loving this game, the only problem I have is I cant tell if I still have money in the bucket. I think I give enough time but Im sure I bet on multiple buckets a few times. Great game, maybe just need a little more advertisement. I'll probably link my signature to the page if your fine with that. Love the game been playing for the past 3 days
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 25, 2013, 01:44:46 AM Interesting game. I think there are still some kinks to work out. Like right now green bucket shows 0.02, which fell about 4 blocks ago according to the history file. The history file shows subsequent blocks to be no play because green bucket is 0 according to the file. It showed 0.02 before the green fall (on screen) but paid out like 0.01 just like it represented in history file. (I had/have the red bucket paid in) Seems like the screen refresh is behind but the history file is probably accurate. Interesting that when you add to the bucket though the screen shows it almost instantly. FYI I don't see any pending transactions for the green bucket to account for the 0.02 on screen. Keep up the good times with bitcoin! Hi BitDonkey! Thanks for the feedback! The totals shown on the website are for both confirmed and unconfirmed transactions (in order to give good up-to-date estimates on each bucket payout). When deciding how buckets actually pay out, only confirmed transactions are counted. (Otherwise the Satoshi Buckets would be vulnerable to a "man-in-the-middle" style attack, or even a double spend attack.) This brings us to the green bucket. There is one unconfirmed transaction that has been messing with the green bucket's totals on the website all day long: b00ea9d1b3ba00c593ae1f76e6c522b699044834468e59c37d6dc348c919f903 (http://blockchain.info/tx/b00ea9d1b3ba00c593ae1f76e6c522b699044834468e59c37d6dc348c919f903). This transaction hasn't been confirmed yet because the "transactor" didn't pay any transaction fee. From an administrative standpoint, there's little I can do (other than ignore every such transaction manually) since bitcoind doesn't tell me which transactions have paid transaction fees. However, there is a good incentive not to use transactions without transaction fees: it will take forever to be confirmed. Hopefully such transactions will not be common, or I will definitely figure out a way to ignore such transactions on the website. Im loving this game, the only problem I have is I cant tell if I still have money in the bucket. I think I give enough time but Im sure I bet on multiple buckets a few times. Great game, maybe just need a little more advertisement. I'll probably link my signature to the page if your fine with that. Love the game been playing for the past 3 days Hi i3lome! Great to hear you're enjoying the game! There's one way to see if your transactions are still in the buckets: click on the buckets to be taken to a list of transactions done to or done by the buckets. You can use this to check if your address is still in the running. Another way is to see if you've received 0.0005 for every 0.01 bet you made. I would be super happy if you advertised the game in your signature! The game becomes more interesting if more people play it! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on May 25, 2013, 04:23:46 AM Thanks for the reply and information. IT helps out a lot. Link is in my signature. Keep up the good work, I also like the frequent changes, it show that this working means a lot to you. I will be a long time fan
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: scalar33 on May 25, 2013, 08:06:09 AM Someone had 0.11 in red the other day, that was a nice pot.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: Boelens on May 25, 2013, 11:17:35 AM Someone had 0.11 in red the other day, that was a nice pot. That would be me. Put 0.1 in it. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 25, 2013, 11:50:38 AM I fixed the weird timer -- now it starts timing since the last block. So pressing F5 won't restart the timer.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 26, 2013, 12:32:56 AM Quote Bitshy is an independent, anonymous software and games developer. You are a bit shy :P Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on May 26, 2013, 10:04:49 PM Has something changed, cause Ive lost .06 over that last day. Every bucket I fund drops right aways instant loose, so I tried to be smart and buy all 3 buckets, lost everything, didn't even get part of my own coin back. Not mad, disappointed a lil but still been advertising for you. Sad thing is im to the point where im too poor to play.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 27, 2013, 08:38:11 AM Quote Bitshy is an independent, anonymous software and games developer. You are a bit shy :P And I enjoy puns. :-) Has something changed, cause Ive lost .06 over that last day. Every bucket I fund drops right aways instant loose, so I tried to be smart and buy all 3 buckets, lost everything, didn't even get part of my own coin back. Not mad, disappointed a lil but still been advertising for you. Sad thing is im to the point where im too poor to play. Hi i3lome. I went and checked and it seems you have tripped into a bug! Playing in multiple buckets in a single transaction had a weird interaction. I fixed the bug now. If you look at these transactions (http://blockchain.info/address/1RbucktdB7agZuX1qdjce4PYbURRaezc7), you'll see that the green bucket is returning money to the red bucket, rather than its backer (you, I presume). So I will reimburse you for the money you should have won in that time: 0.007. I'll bump that up to 0.01 as a sort of apology. Sorry. :-( On the other hand, it seems you have also had a spat of bad luck. :-( EDIT: Reimbursement sent. (https://blockchain.info/tx/dbf8b431b90885594c588f1ac9aa0d1e12135eeaa0b19ed55823f7579c9b61ea) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on May 27, 2013, 08:52:23 AM Thanks for the reimbursment, Sorry about breaking it/giving you more work to do. I have been advertising for you will continue to do so, bad luck is normal for me. No worries will keep playing. Thank you
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 27, 2013, 10:36:30 AM Thanks for the reimbursment, Sorry about breaking it/giving you more work to do. I have been advertising for you will continue to do so, bad luck is normal for me. No worries will keep playing. Thank you Actually I appreciate it! The only way to make the game better is to break it in new ways! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on May 28, 2013, 10:24:26 PM Hey brother, do you have a banner for your site. Id like to put it on my page and I have some banner advertisement that I would like to use to help promotoe your site.
Im not the best at graphics, but if you have some idea's I'd like to help. I think the only thing your page needs is graphics and advertisement and you will be off and running. I'll be goin out of town till Friday, Ill try and get you something before I leave tonight. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 29, 2013, 12:08:46 AM Hi i3lome! I really don't have any graphics -- only the three buckets I hand-pixeled. Feel free to use those buckets if you make the banner! Take care. :-)
In other news, Satoshi Buckets has recently passed 50 rounds! I will post the stats in a little while. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 29, 2013, 12:21:55 AM Satoshi Buckets has passed the 50 round mark!
In the last 50 rounds:
Interesting trends! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on May 29, 2013, 02:27:17 AM http://s15.postimg.org/6d15meayv/redbucket.jpghttp://s21.postimg.org/nji65e0er/greenbucket.jpghttp://s14.postimg.org/uzc5w8a7h/bluebucket.jpg
If you pm me an email ill send you the files if you want them, I think the host I uploaded to done something cause it seems pixely. The originals look better, let me know what you think. Edit, green looks bad the original isn't like that Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A Strategic Bitcoin Betting Game! Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on May 29, 2013, 01:34:07 PM Wow, that's amazing! I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on May 31, 2013, 09:20:25 PM Sorry brother about the delay just got back intown from a road trip, I emailed you the buckets. my email is i3lome@gmail.com
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: LottoPool on May 31, 2013, 11:28:08 PM Lets get some rounds in tonight people.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: dhenson on May 31, 2013, 11:42:52 PM Red just dumped... someone refill it!
I can see that I'm going to get addicted to this game. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: i3lome on June 01, 2013, 12:49:13 AM Red just dumped... someone refill it! I can see that I'm going to get addicted to this game. This game is awesome we need more people to play so we can make more off it. Im totally addicted to this game too Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: ranlo on June 01, 2013, 03:09:39 AM This game... is amazing. Seriously. It's about time someone comes up with something fresh and new. I love the concept.
Need more people though... been waiting 20m+ for these buckets to flip and it's at 95% probability right now (one still isn't funded). Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: 001sonkit on June 01, 2013, 03:01:14 PM Got on a first time on Green bucket from, being poured with red one's coin!
someone refill it? :P Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on June 01, 2013, 10:24:46 PM Hi everyone! I'm glad you are all enjoying the game!
Satoshi Buckets has been up and running for over 10 days! I haven't done any development for it in the last several days, and I'm going to perform only very minor updates in the next two weeks -- real life is taking over for now. I will still check the forums often! When I come back, I will add a history tab to the page! Meanwhile, you can check the history by downloading the raw history file (http://satoshibuckets.bitshy.org/live/history.csv) directly, or by clicking on each bucket to see the bucket's history. If you have any further comments or suggestions, let me know here or via PM! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: ranlo on June 02, 2013, 05:50:51 AM Hi everyone! I'm glad you are all enjoying the game! Satoshi Buckets has been up and running for over 10 days! I haven't done any development for it in the last several days, and I'm going to perform only very minor updates in the next two weeks -- real life is taking over for now. I will still check the forums often! When I come back, I will add a history tab to the page! Meanwhile, you can check the history by downloading the raw history file (http://satoshibuckets.bitshy.org/live/history.csv) directly, or by clicking on each bucket to see the bucket's history. If you have any further comments or suggestions, let me know here or via PM! Do we actually get to watch the buckets fall? Sadly I've watched for a few hours sporadically but haven't seen it during the round-finish stage, :(. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on June 02, 2013, 10:03:52 AM PROMOTION: The house cut has been reduced to 0.5% until June 9!
Do we actually get to watch the buckets fall? Sadly I've watched for a few hours sporadically but haven't seen it during the round-finish stage, :(. Sorry, but there isn't a falling animation. :-/ Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on June 02, 2013, 10:16:33 AM I also made a first reddit post (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1figzu/satoshi_buckets_a_strategic_bitcoin_betting_game/) for Satoshi Buckets! If you want more people to come play, I suggest going in there and letting them know your thoughts!
I should mention that Chainsaw had the idea of reducing the cut. He suggested I get rid of the cut for a week. The 0.5% cut is as close as I can reasonably get to 0%, in order to make up for the server costs. Chainsaw also suggested I reduce the cut to 1% permanently. I think I might do that, depending on how much turnout we get from the Promotion. What are your thoughts? Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: ranlo on June 02, 2013, 03:01:54 PM I also made a first reddit post (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1figzu/satoshi_buckets_a_strategic_bitcoin_betting_game/) for Satoshi Buckets! If you want more people to come play, I suggest going in there and letting them know your thoughts! I should mention that Chainsaw had the idea of reducing the cut. He suggested I get rid of the cut for a week. The 0.5% cut is as close as I can reasonably get to 0%, in order to make up for the server costs. Chainsaw also suggested I reduce the cut to 1% permanently. I think I might do that, depending on how much turnout we get from the Promotion. What are your thoughts? Here's my 2 BTC: 1) Needs more falling animations, :p. Maybe it's just me, but I think being able to visualize what's happening (as opposed to a refresh that just updates numbers) is a good thing. Not sure how doable that is though... 2) The cut... 1% isn't bad, although I think I have a better way of handling it (although again I don't know feasibility about this either): So my idea is to do two things: allow cheaper bets and reduce fees by decreasing payments that are going back and forth. To do this, you run an account system. The deposits you make go into the account. From here it doesn't matter if you want to put in 0.01 BTC or 0.000001 BTC since all the code is doing is handling the deduction/addition. The 0.01 BTC could be the "minimum deposit" and then you could have a withdrawal minimum or just charge the fees on that. Now, this brings up two new concerns: security and trustworthiness (but honestly I wouldn't be so worried about the trust part. If I'm already sending 50 BTC it's not really relevant whether you're holding it temporarily or in an account, since either way I'd still be trusting you to send it back). The decrease in transactions cuts down your paid transaction fees, and allowing people to do the smaller bets would make some more secure I think. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: bitshy on June 02, 2013, 03:36:23 PM Here's my 2 BTC: 1) Needs more falling animations, :p. Maybe it's just me, but I think being able to visualize what's happening (as opposed to a refresh that just updates numbers) is a good thing. Not sure how doable that is though... 2) The cut... 1% isn't bad, although I think I have a better way of handling it (although again I don't know feasibility about this either): So my idea is to do two things: allow cheaper bets and reduce fees by decreasing payments that are going back and forth. To do this, you run an account system. The deposits you make go into the account. From here it doesn't matter if you want to put in 0.01 BTC or 0.000001 BTC since all the code is doing is handling the deduction/addition. The 0.01 BTC could be the "minimum deposit" and then you could have a withdrawal minimum or just charge the fees on that. Now, this brings up two new concerns: security and trustworthiness (but honestly I wouldn't be so worried about the trust part. If I'm already sending 50 BTC it's not really relevant whether you're holding it temporarily or in an account, since either way I'd still be trusting you to send it back). The decrease in transactions cuts down your paid transaction fees, and allowing people to do the smaller bets would make some more secure I think. 1) Falling animations aren't a bad idea, but I'm terrible at graphics and animation. There's also a good chance that you'll miss the falling animation... Unless it only plays when you have the Satoshi Buckets tab active. Hmm... 2) I really like the idea of accounts. It would reduce the back and forth transaction fees, making it nearly costless to play. I'll have to think about it. I won't implement anything like this in the near future, however: it's a lot of work, and I have to focus on real life stuff right now. But I'll revisit the idea in some 15 days. There are a lot of cool things that could be done with accounts. But again, it's a new layer of complexity on an otherwise fairly simple game. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - Win multiple times! Post by: ranlo on June 02, 2013, 04:15:46 PM There are a lot of cool things that could be done with accounts. But again, it's a new layer of complexity on an otherwise fairly simple game. Definitely. There are some people that like the prospect of playing without an account, but (at least for me) having the extra freedom makes it well worth having one. The account could even be as simple as using just your payment address and a password, so no usernames or anything are being given. I hope everything goes well that you're dealing with in RL, as I look forward to seeing what you transform this game into, :). Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: 001sonkit on June 02, 2013, 05:18:58 PM Lol, 2 ppl is rallying the EV of the bucket with me, really like to know who is playing the bucket with me. All trying to get in the bucket before the EV goes negative
EV calc: http://goo.gl/K0vA9 Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: LottoPool on June 02, 2013, 05:26:18 PM I'm in red bucket as we speak, address 1ba....
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: PurpleTentacle on June 02, 2013, 05:30:47 PM I'm on blue.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: 001sonkit on June 02, 2013, 05:35:37 PM FEATURE REQUEST!
Off-chain Transaction PLEASE. The transaction fee is much a burden for us with these kinds of micro betting. By the way, no one wants to spam the chain and pay for those crazy fees right?. I am 1Casper, who bet with 0.0x1 I bet according to the expected value Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: ranlo on June 02, 2013, 05:45:57 PM FEATURE REQUEST! Off-chain Transaction PLEASE. The transaction fee is much a burden for us with these kinds of micro betting. By the way, no one wants to spam the chain and pay for those crazy fees right?. I am 1Casper, who bet with 0.0x1 I bet according to the expected value We already had a semi-discussion about it up above (on this same page). Using accounts so you aren't sending funds back and forth constantly. :p Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: 001sonkit on June 02, 2013, 06:10:47 PM 0.08 in a blue bucket, is it strategic or GENIUS?
And some more genius on the red bucket - - Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 02, 2013, 07:13:54 PM Satoshi Buckets has passed 100 rounds!
In the last 100 rounds:
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: SirLolicon on June 03, 2013, 08:37:10 AM Made more than 0.02 with this already :v
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 03, 2013, 02:45:11 PM Made more than 0.02 with this already :v Congrats! :-) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: 001sonkit on June 03, 2013, 02:46:28 PM Thanks to the one who tossed 0.1BTC to the blue bucket last night. (My neck is as long as a giraffe for the off-chain mode)
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 03, 2013, 04:20:04 PM (My neck is as long as a giraffe for the off-chain mode) I hear you! There will be an off-chain mode! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 07, 2013, 03:09:34 AM Hey folks! It's time for an experiment!
I've raised the minimum amount in each bucket per round to 0.02 BTC. This is an attempt to reduce the amount of money that is chewed up in Bitcoin transaction fees. This should also raise the expected value of all the current buckets! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 07, 2013, 03:38:55 AM To clarify: the minimum bet is still 0.01 BTC, but no bucket will fall until all buckets have at least 0.02 BTC.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: ranlo on June 07, 2013, 04:10:41 AM To clarify: the minimum bet is still 0.01 BTC, but no bucket will fall until all buckets have at least 0.02 BTC. Ah, thanks for clarifying! I inferred it as being that the minimum bet was 0.02, and I was thinking that would cut down on the number of players as a result. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: HelpPlease on June 07, 2013, 12:36:18 PM All buckets are over threshold but not falling?!?!?!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: ranlo on June 07, 2013, 12:43:58 PM All buckets are over threshold but not falling?!?!?! They only fall when a block is hit (at least is my understanding). So the timer at the bottom is how long it waits before checking for a new block. If one has hit, it uses the hash to figure out which bucket to tip. If it hasn't, the timer will go again. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 07, 2013, 01:54:30 PM There are two reasons why a bucket will not fall immediately when the threshold (0.02 BTC in each bucket) is hit:
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: macros on June 08, 2013, 09:34:25 PM Hi,
I sent 0.01 BTC from my gaming pot to the red bucket https://blockchain.info/de/tx/423b3436f737a5a2776fe2ceaaebbc41b2fb323667e73b54f19cf6c8752a8870 But the value doesn't get updated (was before 0.01 and is 0.01) Please fix that or give me a refund. Edit: I see, only 0.02 of the 0.03 coins were taken on the last drop. Maybe the error hides there. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 08, 2013, 11:43:18 PM Hi, I sent 0.01 BTC from my gaming pot to the red bucket https://blockchain.info/de/tx/423b3436f737a5a2776fe2ceaaebbc41b2fb323667e73b54f19cf6c8752a8870 But the value doesn't get updated (was before 0.01 and is 0.01) Please fix that or give me a refund. Edit: I see, only 0.02 of the 0.03 coins were taken on the last drop. Maybe the error hides there. Hi macros! Thanks for letting me know! The issue should be fixed now. Here's what happened: bitcoind crashed. As a result, the server wasn't updating the bucket values, nor were any buckets falling. It's all up and running again now. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 12:47:16 AM Satoshi Buckets has passed 250 rounds! In the last 250 rounds:
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 01:42:22 AM I did a more in-depth analysis of the bucket history. Here's what I extracted.
Mean payouts:
One-round winnings:
Long-term winnings:
Explanation:
I think it's interesting that a game with simple rules results in so much unknown behavior. I think it's also interesting that the green bucket has been losing so much lately. You'd expect it to always be somewhere in the middle! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: i3lome on June 09, 2013, 02:25:52 AM Have you thought about running a promotion to get more players. Like maybe putting in .05-.1 in and advertise in here. just so people can have the chance to get winning something. That way they get hooked like the rest of us. Im still loving this game, I have better luck with this than any other game
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 03:13:14 AM Have you thought about running a promotion to get more players. Like maybe putting in .05-.1 in and advertise in here. just so people can have the chance to get winning something. That way they get hooked like the rest of us. Im still loving this game, I have better luck with this than any other game I already do something similar. :-) A "bonus round" is a round where the money comes not from the fallen bucket, but from elsewhere. The "fallen bucket" stays where it is (it doesn't fall), and the money comes out of my pocket instead! There's been two bonus rounds so far! This was not on purpose, however, which is why I didn't publicize it. It would happen spontaneously, as a result of relying on the simpler bitcoind interface. Now I have a lot more control over how transactions are built, so "bonus rounds" don't just happen anymore. I think I will try to do some "bonuses" on purpose -- but they'll have to be randomized. (And I have very little money, so this kind of promotion can't happen very often!) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: i3lome on June 09, 2013, 03:43:01 AM That's good to know. A bonus is really not necessary seeing how you always make something if you pick the right bucket.
Is it possible to do a litecoin buckets, or how much would you charge to make me a LTC version. I don't even know where to begin to code a site like yours. If interested just let me know, also Id have no problem sending you a percentage from all transactions with LTC buckets. Im poor as shit so anything helps out and Id want to make sure you get paid good for efforts Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 04:00:06 AM EXPERIMENT TIME!
The last experiment was a success. (Increasing the minimum round amount to ฿0.02.) So now we're going to try something a little further out:
Let's see how this works out! The rationale behind this experiment is that it allows people to try out Satoshi Buckets with a smaller amount, but it also reduces transaction fees by requiring the buckets to be a little bit bigger before they fall. Also, the house fee promotion is almost running out! After tomorrow, I will raise the house fee to 1%. But this shouldn't make a very noticeable difference. (The house fee was 3% before the promotion. That was a big difference!) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 09, 2013, 04:02:19 AM Good changes IMO!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 04:09:27 AM Good changes IMO! Yay! Thanks for the feedback! :-) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: spike420211 on June 09, 2013, 04:15:37 AM to clarify:
once you send money to the bucket, you can't pull it back out, even after multiple drops? Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A new kind of Bitcoin game! HOUSE CUT ONLY 0.5% until June 9. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 04:16:43 AM to clarify: once you send money to the bucket, you can't pull it back out, even after multiple drops? That is correct. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - HOUSE 0.5%. MIN BET ฿0.005. Post by: Jgguy on June 09, 2013, 01:52:10 PM I noticed the amount that is sent to the backers of the bucket that fell is less than the non-standard amount of 0.00005430. It causes the whole transaction to take a long time to get into a block and confirm.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - HOUSE 0.5%. MIN BET ฿0.005. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 04:18:04 PM I noticed the amount that is sent to the backers of the bucket that fell is less than the non-standard amount of 0.00005430. It causes the whole transaction to take a long time to get into a block and confirm. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'm attempting to fix this by raising the amount that gets returned to 2%. (This doesn't increase the house fee ... it just means that losers won't lose so much of their money, and winners will win a little less.) We'll see if this improves the confirmation times. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - HOUSE 0.5%. MIN BET ฿0.005. Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 09, 2013, 04:19:27 PM derp Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - HOUSE 0.5%. MIN BET ฿0.005. Post by: bitshy on June 09, 2013, 05:17:45 PM That's not a good solution - please avoid 5430 satoshi dust. If something is below it, don't send. Huh? My solution does get rid of 5430 satoshi dust. The return transactions should all be at least 10000 satoshis each (2% of 5 mBTC). Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - HOUSE 0.5%. MIN BET ฿0.005. Post by: Jgguy on June 09, 2013, 06:24:37 PM Thanks! That last transaction took 4 hours to confirm lol
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - ฿1 GIVEAWAY! Post by: bitshy on June 11, 2013, 12:27:47 AM The 0.5% house fee promotion has expired. I've raised the house fee up to 1%. (It was 3% before, but 1% is much more manageable.)
NEXT PROMOTION: A ฿1 GIVEAWAY! STARTING IMMEDIATELY! HOW TO ENTER: Play Satoshi Buckets. Each round you play in gives you a chance to win. HOW IT WORKS: Every day, one backer wins ฿0.1 at random! CAVEAT: This giveaway will be administered manually, so please be patient! The address performing the giveaway is 1Ftr7B5U4DVsCh1q2mh3XLmH25XeeU7P9F, for the record. [EDIT: I simplified the giveaway immensely.] Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - ฿1 GIVEAWAY! Post by: ranlo on June 11, 2013, 02:43:55 AM The 0.5% house fee promotion has expired. I've raised the house fee up to 1%. (It was 3% before, but 1% is much more manageable.) NEXT PROMOTION: A ฿1 GIVEAWAY! STARTING IMMEDIATELY! HOW TO ENTER: Play Satoshi Buckets. Each round you play in gives you a chance to win. HOW IT WORKS: Every day, one backer wins ฿0.1 at random! CAVEAT: This giveaway will be administered manually, so please be patient! The address performing the giveaway is 1Ftr7B5U4DVsCh1q2mh3XLmH25XeeU7P9F, for the record. [EDIT: I simplified the giveaway immensely.] That's an awesome promotion! I hope it helps drive more people to playing, :). Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: bitshy on June 11, 2013, 09:57:31 AM There's only been 5 rounds today so far! This means that there's a good chance to win the 0.1 BTC today if you play a round or two!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: ranlo on June 11, 2013, 02:03:43 PM There's only been 5 rounds today so far! This means that there's a good chance to win the 0.1 BTC today if you play a round or two! Number of rounds doesn't tell how many betters there were, :p. Could have been one per round or 500000000 Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: bitshy on June 11, 2013, 03:13:50 PM There's only been 5 rounds today so far! This means that there's a good chance to win the 0.1 BTC today if you play a round or two! Number of rounds doesn't tell how many betters there were, :p. Could have been one per round or 500000000 Each round seems to have around 5 participants on average. Note that every time you win, you keep going for another round! That means that at the end of the day, a single bet can count multiple times in the giveaway! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: Jgguy on June 11, 2013, 03:28:37 PM Did it freeze? It looks like there are some BTC in the red bucket but the site shows 0.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: bitshy on June 11, 2013, 04:37:26 PM Did it freeze? It looks like there are some BTC in the red bucket but the site shows 0. Not quite. The server is still running, and it reflects the current bucket values accurately. What has happened is that the latest "bucket falling" transaction accidentally got a small transaction fee due to a floating point rounding error. So it is taking a long time to propagate and be known to the entire network -- and will take a while to confirm. That's why blockchain.info doesn't correctly report the value of the bucket: it hasn't seen the latest transaction. I've bumped the transaction fees to 101% of their old value (a miniscule difference) in order to prevent this from happening again. But right now, all we can do is wait. Sorry about this! On the upside, every problem we encounter and resolve brings us closer and closer to a system without any problems. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: bitshy on June 11, 2013, 04:41:42 PM What has happened is that the latest "bucket falling" transaction accidentally got a small transaction fee due to a floating point rounding error. Correction: This has happened twice in the last day. That's why the blockchain.info Rbucket address shows 0.05, when the current value is really 0.00. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: Jgguy on June 11, 2013, 06:42:02 PM Ok, glad you are fixing the issues as they come up! I really like this game, although the buckets haven't liked me too much recently.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: CoinBomb on June 11, 2013, 10:52:47 PM you shouldn't be doing any maths with floats - convert everything to integer before you do any calculations ( $satoshis = floor(bcmul($float,100000000)) )
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: bitshy on June 12, 2013, 06:46:03 AM you shouldn't be doing any maths with floats - convert everything to integer before you do any calculations ( $satoshis = floor(bcmul($float,100000000)) ) That's a really good point! I think I've learned my lesson there. I'll rewrite the server code to work with satoshis directly, when I get the chance. First day giveaway results coming right up! (PS: The missing red bucket transactions haven't yet been propagated by the network, as I had hoped they would. If it takes another day, I will reimburse the backers directly. In either case, those buckets aren't being counted in the giveaway. They'll be counted when their transaction gets confirmed.) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! Post by: bitshy on June 12, 2013, 07:21:38 AM FIRST GIVEAWAY DAY RESULTS!
There were 13 fallen buckets on June 11, 2013, in the GMT time zone. In total, there were 68 entries in the giveaway. The last block hash of any fallen bucket was 00000000000000c3201f1711f70ef1560aa987be5a797bd42a702c09312200c6, which, when divided by 68, gives us a remainder of 10. That means the 11th entry wins. So who was the winner? CONGRATULATIONS 13ExrYxnpaSKbVVXFLuX5kYPXSWBr6L6yf, YOU WIN 0.1 BTC! Here's the proof that I've sent the 0.1 BTC. (https://blockchain.info/tx/07c57e96bf21892765de67db467e3ae80b94105eaeb3344c7026dcc276b25f7d) All of the details: Quote Last block hash: 00000000000000c3201f1711f70ef1560aa987be5a797bd42a702c09312200c6 Transactions considered: a8f5ee50f2cd860d5d71be0a823f0f0ab5befdf31bb0bd917fa8ab31bfbc2612 4a409bb7373a7024fe07b9cb849cb7218dce8deb64600ebe60549848929db481 5d60f9a159c67dae14e3107e4c2da037c95f4d88c0654e819afe85b5c3fa02cb a19930fad533e698d0cd0e8175d9e0fa6d5ffa3dd90233f05f9db3a8c9afe918 0146affb8e68333122e48aac1c11ddd4f52cbfbda3fb2c6facc7b33ca0121353 f1bb9495f9fb6d15537da22b53e5357e5cf70f49ddb9763d136780d5807060bf 11fb0baa7c3c35650ba78b70b567797b295e33a1a537022f2aed751e4ef95e49 56d04dfaae951e4520c6da07b23432db0a87ab7ac5367cfd277cf02442f54d9c dbe037721970faad720a6b6c88a19f7823c63caf9db54713219fc97055d6bd61 2d0af8311998f779a29be194a0738cca46fac993b3bac3e9e321fe5a675beec6 d8707b97f0d8be7f60c22139c4750f79b778d29742009974408813b51d6d6f86 51bfbbfb0174df443d86b3b1e6c283c4bb0d4acfb479b20fddb3d3c01cad68ff 1326acdebd511a3e8c1a15f2adcf6804a1a9296148eee025dfc68bb00d0abf88 Address list: 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1D4NXs4RUmtxtXs2iSZQEVv4n6McHYggsK 1GuRHgqsRj35f8AR2gwapAwjDRUVgNm6BR 12rDi3sxfS9SRuUdwXuZAEdHEPtC24c438 1PiEx5xZWbpq1avYLEfPvd8Uyj4LeygYie 18WXEwq4yRMmpA5HpRg1FstdAD2coHiDF5 1Q4byFT2LHu1WobfFQ6gTiU9SfneEWDmtH 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1KUgCGv7vUWupYPafh42isKtHmw3fXyZM6 1PiEx5xZWbpq1avYLEfPvd8Uyj4LeygYie 13ExrYxnpaSKbVVXFLuX5kYPXSWBr6L6yf 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1KUgCGv7vUWupYPafh42isKtHmw3fXyZM6 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1McdmTBdRJbRoCHaN6H8MjtJHhVtidSYb9 1PZ59PZp4g3bG6CnYj93XuSK9VmiSALsBu 1KUgCGv7vUWupYPafh42isKtHmw3fXyZM6 13ExrYxnpaSKbVVXFLuX5kYPXSWBr6L6yf 1PiEx5xZWbpq1avYLEfPvd8Uyj4LeygYie 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1KUgCGv7vUWupYPafh42isKtHmw3fXyZM6 1McdmTBdRJbRoCHaN6H8MjtJHhVtidSYb9 1PZ59PZp4g3bG6CnYj93XuSK9VmiSALsBu 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 13BDX2Vbe4w9K4gZACZaWoD98kUxKb1Qzg 1KUgCGv7vUWupYPafh42isKtHmw3fXyZM6 1McdmTBdRJbRoCHaN6H8MjtJHhVtidSYb9 1PZ59PZp4g3bG6CnYj93XuSK9VmiSALsBu 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1624bdzpDg8uupuSCZP93YHFZw169d8PUr 1Fcf2HiHhaVYwHxU2RGi4bWpfaz6ARiQs2 1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF 1J1YxPuhWEQ5DXGPAiZZb2aDUcp4GDkvgi 1KUgCGv7vUWupYPafh42isKtHmw3fXyZM6 1McdmTBdRJbRoCHaN6H8MjtJHhVtidSYb9 1PZ59PZp4g3bG6CnYj93XuSK9VmiSALsBu 1KUgCGv7vUWupYPafh42isKtHmw3fXyZM6 1624bdzpDg8uupuSCZP93YHFZw169d8PUr 1Fcf2HiHhaVYwHxU2RGi4bWpfaz6ARiQs2 1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1J1YxPuhWEQ5DXGPAiZZb2aDUcp4GDkvgi 1McdmTBdRJbRoCHaN6H8MjtJHhVtidSYb9 1PZ59PZp4g3bG6CnYj93XuSK9VmiSALsBu 1J1YxPuhWEQ5DXGPAiZZb2aDUcp4GDkvgi 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1D4NXs4RUmtxtXs2iSZQEVv4n6McHYggsK 1BdHQJKjQBn3eKpLWBNNw9kqURrPDRopeY 1624bdzpDg8uupuSCZP93YHFZw169d8PUr 1Ee7wYSE3ZfkNnyRsK7D9KVe8iWUFytChL 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1BdHQJKjQBn3eKpLWBNNw9kqURrPDRopeY 1J1YxPuhWEQ5DXGPAiZZb2aDUcp4GDkvgi 1D4NXs4RUmtxtXs2iSZQEVv4n6McHYggsK 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1J1YxPuhWEQ5DXGPAiZZb2aDUcp4GDkvgi 1JANv7Vos6h8vgntDtkCQJJCUkd6Bs4MVH 1A2FH6cxgCqafxj4HaZTEAnkkgHv93vqX6 1BdHQJKjQBn3eKpLWBNNw9kqURrPDRopeY 1D4NXs4RUmtxtXs2iSZQEVv4n6McHYggsK 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1BdHQJKjQBn3eKpLWBNNw9kqURrPDRopeY 1JANv7Vos6h8vgntDtkCQJJCUkd6Bs4MVH 1A2FH6cxgCqafxj4HaZTEAnkkgHv93vqX6 13xTFcfjBehShU7g3baUawpSAh5rjtqDBw 13ExrYxnpaSKbVVXFLuX5kYPXSWBr6L6yf 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a 1BdHQJKjQBn3eKpLWBNNw9kqURrPDRopeY Winner: 13ExrYxnpaSKbVVXFLuX5kYPXSWBr6L6yf Giveaway Transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/07c57e96bf21892765de67db467e3ae80b94105eaeb3344c7026dcc276b25f7d Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: i3lome on June 12, 2013, 07:37:14 AM Do all players payout address show in the address list. I played a few times and don't see mine on the list
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 12, 2013, 07:42:10 AM Do all players payout address show in the address list. I played a few times and don't see mine on the list They should. Did you only play in the red bucket? There's two outstanding red bucket falling transactions that haven't been included in this giveaway. (They'll be included once they are confirmed.) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: i3lome on June 12, 2013, 07:45:39 AM I played red and blue I believe. Let me check
edit, Im not sure what time frame your working with Status: 197 confirmations Date: 6/11/2013 02:16 To: Blue Bucket 1Bbucket59CEs93UrZDKeDJ9cETxFEm9xE Debit: -0.005 BTC Transaction fee: -0.0005 BTC Net amount: -0.0055 BTC Transaction ID: d91a2c2cff4b542c43c8b687420940d95e003ed1503feccd4b1b0ed64c8991fd Status: 207 confirmations Date: 6/11/2013 00:20 To: Blue Bucket 1Bbucket59CEs93UrZDKeDJ9cETxFEm9xE Debit: -0.005 BTC To: Green Bucket 1GbucketpG4rHKict89wWGJLhM1jD9RCac Debit: -0.005 BTC To: 50 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6 Debit: -0.01 BTC Transaction fee: -0.0005 BTC Net amount: -0.0205 BTC Transaction ID: 0caec1ddca6fbb845e00dc2cb19ac3d6db7f3066887d10180310ee12e681979c Prolly my fault with the multi-bucket deals again Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 12, 2013, 08:03:37 AM I played red and blue I believe. Let me check edit, Im not sure what time frame your working with Status: 197 confirmations Date: 6/11/2013 02:16 To: Blue Bucket 1Bbucket59CEs93UrZDKeDJ9cETxFEm9xE Debit: -0.005 BTC Transaction fee: -0.0005 BTC Net amount: -0.0055 BTC Transaction ID: d91a2c2cff4b542c43c8b687420940d95e003ed1503feccd4b1b0ed64c8991fd Status: 207 confirmations Date: 6/11/2013 00:20 To: Blue Bucket 1Bbucket59CEs93UrZDKeDJ9cETxFEm9xE Debit: -0.005 BTC To: Green Bucket 1GbucketpG4rHKict89wWGJLhM1jD9RCac Debit: -0.005 BTC To: 50 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6 Debit: -0.01 BTC Transaction fee: -0.0005 BTC Net amount: -0.0205 BTC Transaction ID: 0caec1ddca6fbb845e00dc2cb19ac3d6db7f3066887d10180310ee12e681979c I see your address in the list above! The address "1J1YxPuhWEQ5DXGPAiZZb2aDUcp4GDkvgi", belonging to you, had 5 entries in the giveaway. Overall, you had a 7.4% chance of winning 0.1 BTC. Quote Prolly my fault with the multi-bucket deals again No, betting in multiple buckets is totally fine nowadays. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: i3lome on June 12, 2013, 08:11:13 AM Sorry about that, I cant ever tell which address Bitcoin Client uses for sending. I guess I should look into that.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 12, 2013, 08:12:04 AM Sorry about that, I cant ever tell which address Bitcoin Client uses for sending. I guess I should look into that. Hey, no problem! I'm here to help. :-) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 12, 2013, 10:26:45 AM A little bit of math about the giveaway:
There were 68 entries yesterday. Each 0.005 BTC bet was worth about 2.5 entries on average. Each 0.005 BTC bet gave you around 4% chance to win the giveaway. That means that each 0.005 BTC bet gives you 4% chance to earn 0.1 BTC -- that's 0.004 BTC expected value -- beyond what you already earn from playing Satoshi Buckets. IN OTHER WORDS, minimum bets are about 80% cheaper thanks to the giveaway. The expected return of a minimum bet is much more than 100%! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 12, 2013, 12:04:30 PM Someone decided to test Satoshi Buckets with huge bets. As a result, there was a round with R=0.125, G=0.19, B=0.15. That was the biggest round yet! (Green fell.) Thank you anonymous tester!
If things like this happen more often, I'll raise the minimum round threshold to 0.05 BTC per bucket, to prevent people from winning a large bucket with a much, much smaller bet amount. (This would once again also reduce back and forth transaction fees.) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: Jgguy on June 12, 2013, 01:54:58 PM I won the 0.1. Thanks bitshy! Didn't get to see those large buckets though. That would have been fun to get in on.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.9 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 13, 2013, 06:37:59 AM SECOND GIVEAWAY DAY RESULTS!
This time there were 32 fallen buckets, for a total of 206 entries in the giveaway. The last block considered was 00000000000000e787eb22c9315c7306ce44f7f1832bc8595b204922c9d87cd5. Divided by 206, that gives us a remainder of 127. So the 128th entry wins. So... CONGRATULATIONS 14f6R5rve7t23wRsYmXuALDTPJH19WKUci, YOU ARE THE WINNER! Winning transaction is here. (https://blockchain.info/tx/fe0fc682317abbe786cf75cf9b32b47e10f2ee7f99e25cf5ab8d429708cf1260) More details: Quote Last block: 00000000000000e787eb22c9315c7306ce44f7f1832bc8595b204922c9d87cd5 Transactions (32): 44a318c1632bad476cb03c2daf4933a56cb091a38365d289bde270826ff5c715 56fda596f11e45acc93b45977ea76c214fb87cc44962d8c610259feb7a27386b 5902e3572d42cd613a2881f7d5271e934125c2b904f37f5c1dbf721513bd90bb 500f7b97d1fd12bab33231b6fc32d79b69f2eb3419d25c7d56c7f69bbe10d902 929336c72e3fd1446f0ce152b9a6a83c80ab6296d41d858fdf7de713c04b26f5 c00cfc72cd143f5e6b839219831347cdbbab48c93f7c55b4ea10c7b8544e4354 49a0560fef2dc6a9013f72957f9098028e3a5c8d062a8c8fa1689640a8391893 956d0b3e53844268fb7d32aa5906a2c7018642adcf96fca3bf7cd3a0861359d3 e6fe21cb7e3972e5af4729be9c0d2c663e0ffbeefc006467a6d9f89050555e90 eac61b43149ebc7385236b69341a4215e7cca91d80ded1bb94198ded91b05a2d 5b561d9e0a1b938590152cacf81a45cf7b020c67528fcf15cabc2c8ac2f2137a ba1c6675140909c5704a1651681d74f307a7cf306a33f129cd07c03359faf146 95be485aee484a931c7e81662908299dcf02f32b8010b3818c06f8fe7d86e982 33bcfa86c3b387d0f9bcc1f5744f7f8fded6d285dc67f2320e2a8b977a891af6 01c469fb0a1513a9958428616a44124b18dafb265fd8c64c6efae14940bbaa9c 146827f77a3b73baf30dd72fbffbeca236532c8b17b36fca820757cf38a77e71 194af2b7b782381bfdcb2dba02f7b0572430ee9ed0978723d66a71ee83879e12 0237408431fea60b0e3bafb88e64468a6d002296f6d80c02ebb983e2400a6ee5 9667773f5bfc699b9a0a1fddcdcdd6bf097683dbfe59ffed8cbc32d550525706 b460fad13bc7e273189ef55cfd63a50addaa79000d57d5c83201f0f901362515 6d321c908a4d2f38b836b693906ff78f3632298405700059cff6229ce29674ab 5918339ef34885d99884316ccf9253ac964e7e546ec6731048507907db3a2ae0 3aa91ee05fd31744d2f554021409dce4981157aad6ad99affab002539faa06d4 5800127ccfd6fe3298c8ecbf8b50793be70b58a98664b100d6eb0795f9a8cbff 8dd28e228dea2575f9b33f9e7d99221409b46caeac854bfcef887bdc8772f569 38bc96998110fa57b780aec967c4bdaef0818e8a5b7d3a885efd2c19a17f2f23 bbd83e6cb76249ebb876efe6387a47003b0a6c3f01d270edb8e5063c319a90df 5847232cb347de5c875d748c580486fd5864ec2a6ff4019887f1a869d8251034 7a93a5ebbee56ea9592ae79bbcf0fd700a9abc46f9f34d7c8bfd4c390b7ced89 345cf1bcf1c3dfc4479162cbeb496c8f826d0261d84039204aced0c5d3696f61 1117b1512ea2551442cef04dcd5b7965d895552d262f9aaec1720c42955f5f68 cec54f79d761bc93bd7f6a1b01af6d93753605dc362a65e318db57b8f01156a7 Entries (206). (List omitted to keep this post short.) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 14, 2013, 11:11:50 AM No buckets seem to have fallen for around 16 hours now. Is this just due to the lack of btc being pumped into the buckets?
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: PurpleTentacle on June 14, 2013, 11:18:50 AM Actually, red fell about 8 hours ago. I still have a little bit going in the green bucket. Maybe I should stop watching it...
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: ranlo on June 14, 2013, 11:25:16 AM No buckets seem to have fallen for around 16 hours now. Is this just due to the lack of btc being pumped into the buckets? Yes. The buckets only fall when there is enough to get them activated. After this it waits for the next BTC block for generating which bucket should drop. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 14, 2013, 11:48:02 AM Actually, red fell about 8 hours ago. I still have a little bit going in the green bucket. Maybe I should stop watching it... Hmm, in that case maybe I'm confused as to how it works. I was of the impression that if I had coins in red, I would receive transactions from red bucket every time a green or blue bucket fell, and when the red bucket fell, I would receive a 0.00000101 transaction to indicate that it's gone. However, looking at the address history here (https://blockchain.info/address/1RbucktdB7agZuX1qdjce4PYbURRaezc7?filter=1), I can see that I've just fallen off the transactions: Quote 2013-06-13 13:10:39 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu - 0.00402483 2013-06-13 15:45:09 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu - 0.00203495 2013-06-13 15:51:02 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu - 0.00144995 2013-06-13 15:54:33 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu -0.00135295 My understanding is, that with the next red bucket transaction (2013-06-13 18:25:20), I would have received either a further payment, or a token small payment to indicate that the bucket has fallen. However, I've had no further red bucket transactions after the 15:54:33 one. Am I misunderstanding the game mechanics here? Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 14, 2013, 11:59:21 AM Am I misunderstanding the game mechanics here? thisisgil: Let me look into it, and I'll get right back to you. But first... giveaway results are ready! THIRD GIVEAWAY DAY RESULTS! This time I went with a slightly different method of selecting the winner, which is a lot easier to administer manually and less error prone. (It also slightly benefits people who enter in smaller rounds over larger rounds. Sorry, but I do think the simplification is worth it.) Essentially, the block hash is now used to pick the winning transaction, and then to select an entry at random from it. So, the last considered block was 00000000000000e9e6d637cadd9059c0ab1cf11175b8f25722ad00270fd01265. This selects the 19th transaction, 5fda6b83c423cad6fdf692937bc5033bd06fa0cc613120fd88a3ce628287008e, and the first entry from that transaction. CONGRATULATIONS 1BdHQJKjQBn3eKpLWBNNw9kqURrPDRopeY, YOU WIN 0.1 BTC! Winning transaction. (https://blockchain.info/tx/64c7e6fbbf812817b0a1c23ed463b9823bf73284e5f2eb888895bba110dd202e) Details: Quote Last Block Hash: 00000000000000e9e6d637cadd9059c0ab1cf11175b8f25722ad00270fd01265 Transactions (32): 8edc4304118381c471abae0d8013de13b8f2a33d590eec45a314a5b104012e44 a9ada3a22e761c1441082630793f9a954441e5b38b08a8b0bcf014f4fade2304 5576d894a875dfd03cbbe067bc6809bea0026e67b2d3f3ab8f2050b01bf8faac cd3bb4a0a5572f5d34a2102166aaa80acd86e888c49ef7820daf458c88366474 a178a8d5938daa317facd18506cc66afa9487b697c4ab86c015066672b10fd77 1a6e00928692bb9f786889691e4f1bb13cb9aef8433298dc4b919f02db9c70ed 53b0c7c237851316f9cd0820ef568ced459be80949f14225a096bec6042fa091 8382b0ce25c44256254363d4f4066bfeda3c4b05982713ab1d22d0d37fe09511 9907baa7e506dae98f63a3adb5937ea114c5b8e65ff9705cd5f39d9945add1c8 acc0c693cc6f5cbbcdfd3b8323f76fb0a08dfc5a864df2e39cacd5fac543e5b9 1af0fdc51c9685d096e55dffaeca2f024e6ca455cc200e82052e3f5d165fbf74 89f4b9dc9c1be67600f12df17b96ad3e88970a0e46515c8ccb9564ff10877199 5fb78562acc2164b28f07b17ef06f40acf299d295c1b0a4377a3faeb7b143ae6 0e60f60b77b6de5246bb717f85cb02134d25ddafc7feb7ccc5778f2c4c04d992 d4f42cb7e4a5253acbd6e609a259b8a080898c18baa84f96288a286bd2739e90 1f5cf75f9251334aa6c1390f8ab5695c896afc0a7352186c3dfa581948673ae2 7aec34982cc9e1283604dac6b620b0196ca95e68216e8afb9610b962c488f156 69626ab301b0f3b262e7c56941ee1c91247004c79c6ac65ce2a0d4340efd38bf 5fda6b83c423cad6fdf692937bc5033bd06fa0cc613120fd88a3ce628287008e 6446a637f87ff47b718372c0a6ac90799535995dc3e1a6be1b22c7c2d26632cd 988b3f755cb30dcdecddd191843e208ffb98bb91266ab9233dd9125ab32946e0 2d5dae7f916efd99c488980c92bb354c208259a1e2d62b1fa30f6c0fd5a66e16 939dcab693f8745314bc300e5afa52b312f1850d14c173a8ae3890b8803fa9c4 e370440869b4f9ced5d51f4905e77684583f263c96f19580ef33845296d5fe36 2f8c18bb3abc154cf3f084ed324025fb415a55e49964b0f7442051aee17a4c4c 443771b2e2089b1c9370755bcb71855072173216d2ee59d14efc5e8d6640e548 657aead7913cd12cb639f5b4533fc9eeb51285ce6146438084ebb9c4eb030a81 029b071a2b2c5cd5621c738f5110a8d1fd8720178446513a6e61196b1c5fd5b6 090a6e4bb3819007fc669f23dd7024ceb3328eeca7d62fc61e53067e61676b2d e3b4ab044966e5e450f15cc328aea29979c704ba3d46e26c9d0d1ff63a914795 291e3322a359268861903d74e2ba856c8a169d8536f1b500b5012ef7130a2b76 e32938c2cd31241d6780c3fcacdcbb431bb109ee97158b3c648ae84451ebe340 Selection method: transaction index = (block hash / 256) % number of transactions winning entry index = block hash % number of entries in chosen transaction These indices are 0-based, not 1-based. Winner: Last block hash chooses 1st entry from 19th transaction. 1BdHQJKjQBn3eKpLWBNNw9kqURrPDRopeY Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 14, 2013, 12:09:08 PM Hmm, in that case maybe I'm confused as to how it works. I was of the impression that if I had coins in red, I would receive transactions from red bucket every time a green or blue bucket fell, and when the red bucket fell, I would receive a 0.00000101 transaction to indicate that it's gone. You almost have it right. You don't receive transactions from the red bucket necessarily -- the transactions come from all three buckets. If you look at the history, http://blockchain.info/address/14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu You'll see that there's transactions from all three buckets. Since you bet in all three buckets, you only really got a small "signal" transaction when the last bucket fell: http://blockchain.info/tx/2d5dae7f916efd99c488980c92bb354c208259a1e2d62b1fa30f6c0fd5a66e16 So everything seems to be in working order. (The only thing that is a littly fishy right now is that the green bucket transaction is taking a long time to confirm. This is caused by too small a transaction fee -- but it's not quite as bad as a few days ago.) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: PurpleTentacle on June 14, 2013, 12:13:44 PM I was of the impression that if I had coins in red, I would receive transactions from red bucket every time a green or blue bucket fell, and when the red bucket fell, I would receive a 0.00000101 transaction to indicate that it's gone. However, looking at the address history here (https://blockchain.info/address/1RbucktdB7agZuX1qdjce4PYbURRaezc7?filter=1), I can see that I've just fallen off the transactions: Quote 2013-06-13 13:10:39 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu - 0.00402483 2013-06-13 15:45:09 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu - 0.00203495 2013-06-13 15:51:02 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu - 0.00144995 2013-06-13 15:54:33 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu -0.00135295 My understanding is, that with the next red bucket transaction (2013-06-13 18:25:20), I would have received either a further payment, or a token small payment to indicate that the bucket has fallen. However, I've had no further red bucket transactions after the 15:54:33 one. Am I misunderstanding the game mechanics here? Yes, I think that's how it goes, but it seems that you received a small amount from the green bucket as it fell 5 mins after your last payment from red, which means that you had no running bets at 18:25. 2d5dae7f916efd99c488980c92bb354c208259a1e2d62b1fa30f6c0fd5a66e16 2013-06-13 15:59:05 1GbucketpG4rHKict89wWGJLhM1jD9RCac -> 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu 0.0001 BTC Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 14, 2013, 12:37:02 PM Yes, I think that's how it goes, but it seems that you received a small amount from the green bucket as it fell 5 mins after your last payment from red, which means that you had no running bets at 18:25. 2d5dae7f916efd99c488980c92bb354c208259a1e2d62b1fa30f6c0fd5a66e16 2013-06-13 15:59:05 1GbucketpG4rHKict89wWGJLhM1jD9RCac -> 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu 0.0001 BTC I started throwing btc at the buckets on the train yesterday to satiate my boredom, and think that I ended up with bets in all three buckets at one point. Green appeared to fall as per your transaction above, however, this would mean that I still had funds in the red bucket until it fell later, but received no further red bucket transactions or red bucket-fall notification amount. I also had one transaction back from blue bucket and then no further transactions or notification that it had fallen. If anyone could help me understand this, it would be much appreciated :) EDIT: You almost have it right. You don't receive transactions from the red bucket necessarily -- the transactions come from all three buckets. If you look at the history, http://blockchain.info/address/14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu You'll see that there's transactions from all three buckets. Since you bet in all three buckets, you only really got a small "signal" transaction when the last bucket fell: http://blockchain.info/tx/2d5dae7f916efd99c488980c92bb354c208259a1e2d62b1fa30f6c0fd5a66e16 So everything seems to be in working order. (The only thing that is a littly fishy right now is that the green bucket transaction is taking a long time to confirm. This is caused by too small a transaction fee -- but it's not quite as bad as a few days ago.) Okay, thanks this helps clear it up a bit. Perhaps you could consider making so that you receive payouts from the address of whatever bucket you still have funds in? It would seem much more intuitive that way. So for example: Joe has coins in red, blue and green. Green falls. Joe receives the following transactions: Green - the token 0.000001 or whatever Red - the red bucket share of green's funds Blue - the blue bucket share of green's funds Next round, assuming Joe didn't reinvest and Red then fell, Joe would receive: Green - nothing Red - the token 0.0000001 Blue - the blue bucket share of red's funds Does that make sense? I think if you manged it that way, it would make things a lot clearer for multi-bucket players! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 14, 2013, 01:16:27 PM Sorry for the double post - just out of interest....
How many confirmations to get into a bucket? 1? 2? 3? Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! WIN 0.1 BTC EVERY DAY! 0.8 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 14, 2013, 01:23:00 PM Quote from: thisisgil Perhaps you could consider making so that you receive payouts from the address of whatever bucket you still have funds in? It would seem much more intuitive that way. Sorry, but that wouldn't work. The transactions have to come from the fallen buckets: it's just the way the bitcoin system is designed. Otherwise we would pay a lot more in transaction fees. How many confirmations to get into a bucket? 1? 2? 3? 1 confirmation. As soon as all buckets have 0.025 BTC worth, all confirmed at least once, one of the buckets falls. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: PurpleTentacle on June 14, 2013, 01:33:09 PM A history of the most recent transactions (only when a bucket falls) would be nice , complete with time, tx link and payments.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 14, 2013, 01:54:20 PM A history of the most recent transactions (only when a bucket falls) would be nice , complete with time, tx link and payments. Thanks for the feedback! :-) I'm planning to implement a history feature in a couple weeks, when I finally have time to sit down and do it. In the meanwhile, you can click on the bucket images to be taken to blockchain.info for each bucket. You can also download http://satoshibuckets.bitshy.org/live/history.csv, if you want to, which contains (very basic) information on each round / block. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 14, 2013, 11:16:34 PM Bitshy - what times do you consider your peak playing hours? Seems mostly European friendly hours to me :)
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: ranlo on June 14, 2013, 11:30:51 PM Bitshy - what times do you consider your peak playing hours? Seems mostly European friendly hours to me :) Good question. I think maybe some type of chart that is broken down into hours (or even like 2 hour blocks) showing the payments input would help. Ex: 2PM: 5 (this would represent 2PM and there being 5 payments total). Doesn't even need to show the amounts. Just something to help visualize when the best time to hang out on the site is for gaming. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 15, 2013, 11:43:02 AM Hello folks, the server is down. :-/ The host says they're fixing the issue, so all we can do is wait.
Bitshy - what times do you consider your peak playing hours? Seems mostly European friendly hours to me :) I think so too. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: i3lome on June 15, 2013, 09:20:19 PM Is anyone else having problems connecting to Satoshi Buckets
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 15, 2013, 10:41:01 PM Is anyone else having problems connecting to Satoshi Buckets Hello folks, the server is down. :-/ The host says they're fixing the issue, so all we can do is wait. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 17, 2013, 09:26:23 AM Bitshy -
Any updates on the downtime? I'm getting serious withdrawal here (plus I still have coins sitting in buckets!) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: counter on June 17, 2013, 10:02:04 AM Yeah I have been having trouble also I was wondering what was up or if it was just me having trouble getting on the site.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 17, 2013, 10:11:11 AM Yeah I have been having trouble also I was wondering what was up or if it was just me having trouble getting on the site. Bitshy said the site was down as of a couple of days ago and that his hosting guy was looking into it. Would love an update though, as I really want to start playing some more :) (Not to mention that we haven't had any 0.1btc prize winners announced for a while now....) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 17, 2013, 10:31:07 AM I am so sorry, everyone.
The site is still down. The server is still down. The host says there was a critical hardware failure -- the physical server machine has broken down. This was certainly not caused by Satoshi Buckets -- something more fundamental is at stake. Unfortunately, on my end, the only thing I can do is wait. If this goes on much longer, I will repay all outstanding bets. Unfortunately, without access to the server, I cannot return individual transactions without returning all of them. Otherwise, if the situation is resolved soon, all of the bucket money will stay in the buckets and will be processed as normal when the service is up and running again. (Nothing was lost in the server crash. The Bitcoin network keeps track of every transaction.) I hope the server comes back up in the next couple of days, but the server host hasn't given a timeline, and they haven't given me an update since Saturday. Needless to say, the giveaway is suspended until the server is back up. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: junglist.massive on June 17, 2013, 11:35:03 AM I'll watcz this theard. write if page will back!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: i3lome on June 18, 2013, 07:04:48 AM Yay, its back up time to play again
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 18, 2013, 08:48:49 AM Paging bitshy! Confirmed trans not showing in red bucket - can you take a look?
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 18, 2013, 10:37:35 AM Oh boy! The site is back up, the server is booting. It should be working in about 15 minutes. Until then, be skeptical about the bucket totals. (Or just look at blockchain.info.)
The giveaway is back on! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 18, 2013, 11:38:42 AM Ok, Satoshi Buckets is officially back up!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - 1 BTC GIVEAWAY! 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 18, 2013, 11:39:46 AM Ok, Satoshi Buckets is officially back up! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vpE6uMJ37dk/UOScrne47aI/AAAAAAAAEL4/Ki-4IWO-SoY/s1600/ron-paul.gif Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 18, 2013, 02:22:30 PM Here's an interesting scenario:
http://abload.de/img/buckets5ou8r.png So at this point, no buckets will fall, because there is not enough money in red. However, nobody with any brains is going to drop coin into red as it has the highest chance of dropping and also the lowest long-term outlook. Surely in this situation, the game should be offering up a carrot on a stick to encourage people to drop coins into red? EDIT: Also - Quote When a bucket falls: 2% of its value is returned to its backers (to signal the fallen bucket), 1% of its value is donated to Bitshy Productions, a transaction fee is paid, and then the remaining value is split in half. Each half is divided equally among the supporters of the other two buckets. Shouldn't it be like this: 1% Bitshy 2% Losers 5% Trans Fee (Est.) 92% Split proportionally amongst other bucket supporters. So for example, if 4 people are in for 0.005 and 1 person is in for 0.01, the person with 0.01 should get 33% of the 92% split and the other 4 people should each get 17% of the 92% split. As it is at the moment, there is no incentive to bet anything higher than 0.005 in a bucket, which means that as people learn, you'll be missing out on an opportunity to encourage higher bets and by extension a higher rake back for bitshy! :) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 18, 2013, 03:47:08 PM Surely in this situation, the game should be offering up a carrot on a stick to encourage people to drop coins into red? There are three reasons why you might still want to play in red in this situation: - You might expect green or blue to get higher by the time red meets the threshold. - You might be feeling lucky. - There is a massive giveaway going on that means that playing in red is still a net positive even if it is originally a net negative. (Hey! That sounds familiar!) Also, if I increased the bucket threshold to 0.05 BTC, it would be advantageous to place a minimum bet in green, in the analogous situation. Then the expected value of each bucket would change once again. So perhaps when we jump to the next Satoshi Buckets round threshold (which will happen some day, I'm pretty sure) that particular situation cannot occur. (Though similar situations probably still can.) Quote 5% Trans Fee (Est.) Right now the estimated transaction fee is actually 0.4%, often less. Quote 92% Split proportionally amongst other bucket supporters. Sorry, this is an error with my description of the game! The reward is proportional to the amount of money you put in! Otherwise there really would be no incentive to bet more than 0.005. I updated the description on the site. [EDIT: I edited this post to add more thoughts.] Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 18, 2013, 04:05:28 PM Thanks for the clarification, bitshy!
There are three reasons why you might still want to play in red in this situation: - You might expect green or blue to get higher by the time red meets the threshold. - You might be feeling lucky. - There is a massive giveaway going on that means that playing in red is still a net positive even if it is originally a net negative. (Hey! That sounds familiar!)50% If we discount 3 as it's only a temporary thing, I'm not sure that someone trying to develop a strategy would rely on luck, which means we can rule out 2. Therefore, we're left with 1: "You might expect green or blue to get higher...." and I honestly don't think that's enough of an incentive to drop into red. Perhaps consider throwing a lifeline into play? Something like if you go in on red and the total of the red bucket is 33% or greater of the three buckets, then you have a 1 in 10 chance to get thrown a lifeline - ie your money stays in red bucket (minus your 1% bitshy rake of course). This gives the player an incentive to back the red bucket AND lures players away from green and blue because there's a 1 in 5 chance they won't get the winnings from red falling. I dunno. Maybe that's overcomplicating it and stupid. Quote Quote 5% Trans Fee (Est.) Right now the estimated transaction fee is actually 0.4%, often less. Yup - I was just throwing a number out there for the sake of illustration - didn't have the inclination to figure out the exact %! :) Quote Sorry, this is an error with my description of the game! The reward is proportional to the amount of money you put in! Otherwise there really would be no incentive to bet more than 0.005. I updated the description on the site. Good stuff! :) Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: JKWong on June 18, 2013, 06:59:33 PM Really nice gambling idea. I bet its and old game you didnt invent. Or am i mistaken ? :)
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: dhenson on June 19, 2013, 03:37:52 AM I took some pity on you guys waiting and tossed some btc in red.
Here we go! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: dhenson on June 19, 2013, 05:28:17 AM haha I guess benevolence pays... my red bet has paid off 4 times so far and is still going strong!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 19, 2013, 10:56:01 AM Coming up: fourth giveaway results. But first, an announcement.
ANN: The bucket minimum per round has been increased to 0.05 BTC. This will result in smaller transaction fees, and more fluidity (since the minimum bet is now one tenth of the round minimum). This change was instituted at a time when the red bucket had 0 BTC and the green and blue buckets had 0.05 BTC, so nobody was negatively affected. (The expected value of the red bucket went down, but nobody was betting there. The expected values of the green and blue buckets went up.) FOURTH GIVEAWAY RESULTS This time, we considered transactions from 14th to the 18th, since there was an interruption of service. There were 33 transactions considered. The last block hash was , so the 22nd transaction was picked, and the 3rd entry from that transaction is the winner. So ... CONGRATULATIONS 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu, YOU WIN 0.1 BTC! (https://blockchain.info/tx/8efe88a4d73b0045863190574b72d04dc52778f2568b660d536b98306156abc1) DETAILS: Quote Last Block Hash: 00000000000000866d28d8a40cb8744b494ee965ac4020bb89deafb6c24ff60a Transactions considered (33): b1e2f8f3fa687053b1feaa6a1ca3224f9e0b31f0ef0246990c2f10551b1eee87 6eb013ff0eb96860111c292080653d43aa7bad554d9db23ae27f7edf8bccded1 a1072712ee9712fc99dc8056a3d6f900fd0f00cdf59d7c4095e272a3a563ebc5 c8729628f3d073d60027e0e0fc9024fc72455efeca1ce691305d8dc25b0d9efa 5c6fd950c1a711737cb84f2cd61107f95bdafe73f8910ae66f7707f8bfeeab4d ad2abdcfd40f83542ba451550eb5f0ee1cf0e9f87dbc966e6e344ec67b643019 339fcb0df863bac848b58824394ef3b14451dfdb543fda4fd86ad062e7c50572 4e671f4f368b0114f6160c233ff257a7520ff287f60bccab3c8786b3fe490705 239bc2aceded208092ac8ef41c2dd743edb680e80f0019f567460a05485517ff 1441921ee990cc53dc5edb56e58155cfd03df04b8f31528d9777eda4567993d2 0ad1238d58eaa825a7c6d8b8f56d42f727220fa67a18907bf59216a3b797cbac 80a1cf18739971ec005e458a09d6aa5e03bee726fbe7d20be8ba00fbd6cf5f03 d7afdff4440ec2a041d3092b2068f4dcf1cfbaa10c0bcfd3d20d882c15c24ee2 225fc024a1bb0a5e9a6852b350b91dfd8498f97b1f7224cece7e6d08abdc6f28 23c395aa127678e014a0705e356308e737ad84ab17b0ae93ed4685883e9a7264 186c7288257541c7449afb91d7960191e3f053086ec849e58357e0197a554707 b8992e5696f2bf4790aa4030fb0f0b2230a493405e62b2da1e67a97d79dc8492 7eba868111852af16e6906df4e9d69e8111ac1bdf7a5752fd6869b1f03914489 9c64614f2b2f2a2641d929b9c15ee2bb839554b32b43f1e9a037a52e67dd8dbd 06ad4318f49fadc1b9a75d4cee75b62164203a01a198bc62116311438628e181 6d5117c51e2e423aa2923f86a01660f3bf0965824fef0f02772f7b00d257eab9 b5a030046eb149618d32caef23a84abda43798b3d153e0f55f66ee14ff44d5d1 9ea51a0b33cca3aedab1b929e7c5b4aee543241838710111e3e511389bfff93e 3269dedf9e9a58c75f05a76fb4c272236c86ce191883cfd2ff4d6228a189a087 9008a9f1dd05ccc88e91cae62eb5050d0cc2678b8c75b9d55a3d94d7d0282601 1ecba0272985e71941d8ce8fa920a0c4cc996fed3d6f5487033c7fe5e2cbb04a 1045fb6f1adf5a8ab48e3539154cb1c51938103d509b10e2b160e29107071acd b6ef86087c8c50dfccafc6ceced7797ad984d9111916e3d4bffd3aa1ac45ca7d 941bced30d7809d5b8603d7660ee6d271638d0bf4e1b30c76d40cc8a1c16776a 308b6cda6f3ecb42780af48fd1a268672cc667633922552cc2a9f51cc78a1ef6 ad1f40973eedd10c8dcae62a19ca1b885498b4fd32535c817c3c5aa7356aef03 8d19afe35a427af725300098c4d782c5353ff554d271b4d7406dd85edfc1c6f2 60f6ad4e350d1534c5ecf7400329e8086fff4cbcff5a2a25c5db608fd7f8c141 Winner: 22nd transaction = b5a030046eb149618d32caef23a84abda43798b3d153e0f55f66ee14ff44d5d1 3rd entry = 14dD2jzPSpY4kzVacPbVThk187MCupwLCu Giveaway transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/8efe88a4d73b0045863190574b72d04dc52778f2568b660d536b98306156abc1 Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.7 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 19, 2013, 11:00:08 AM Really nice gambling idea. I bet its and old game you didnt invent. Or am i mistaken ? :) I don't know. I came up with the idea, but maybe it already exists going way back? Or maybe only with the invention of Bitcoin is such a betting game feasible. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.6 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 19, 2013, 03:11:26 PM Seems to me that the 0.05 minimum has slowed up the game somewhat.....
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.6 BTC LEFT. Post by: thisisgil on June 20, 2013, 02:22:53 PM Every bucket value currently shows "NAN"
Is the site down again? Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.6 BTC LEFT. Post by: dhenson on June 20, 2013, 03:14:39 PM For all you red bucket haters out there, just sharing that I had an 8 drop win streak night before last.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.6 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 20, 2013, 04:03:09 PM Every bucket value currently shows "NAN" Is the site down again? bitcoind crashed. It's up again, now. Let it be said ... bitcoind is not the most stable software. As for the effect of the 0.05 BTC buckets... let's try it out for a while longer. If it turns out to have been a bad idea, I'll revert it. But in the meantime, let's try it out. Giveaway results coming right up. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - UP AND RUNNING! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.6 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 20, 2013, 04:06:02 PM GIVEAWAY DAY #5:
This time there were 19 transactions considered. This is less than the previous days. This is a result of the downtimes, the middle of the week, and the new bucket round minimum. But this sort of means that everyone who participated had a better chance of winning! CONGRATULATIONS 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a, YOU WIN 0.1 BTC! (https://blockchain.info/tx/e29162e4b828f30e457fa1e73ec074b80978596a93d2f72148ed7a282811f559) DETAILS: Quote Last block hash: 0000000000000035d24ae60516a0e661c75bf016c66da9871edb4d3f12c0e067 Transactions (19): c9dc6ba6f46961a092edcc410e9c053f93e278b24243faa2e64ce9f68b068d18 f1988188b09f354c5d00937eb0acd1c864d6c1dd2ad90de4eed27a817201b50e a3d9e8cb8c10bf3faaaca74ad97a39680c594066c0b33dc5e2260c70a602c9b8 94142f73034f681f7ca308abae38ac61d100f884499ccc41b22bb604eb1b5128 0c60cfc00230132218d170b099fa7b0dbc877d6f0525f96115a14aa7df636532 88ece9988d3aa48b7f389fbcf425455cc253c1b55045b91238df4a85711343ac 5d7a99d2e5621fd82815d74874f94d36e83edb8821efe25122da9fc85ba6f577 e96454ff60ec6fff128c0b4a7576003d0f695e30565919e40ef26ab8fb85c58b 450a00d665d6a9661424b35d9ab0491813c36dcac8670b5607e342c1656a6a56 530ee732e6b8972b690008680fb0ee2b7727b3fd4a441910fdfeb7968fa315ca 8b20ae2a65761779b030f6e2f13e853833d18a0193727e26111dbb9170edb8bb bfe2b053086319b1d5765f7761729dfa32d4456b3ab4dd2e2deac67a854ef91b 79db57c3b4cfbbb7314bef72c70b2da6e08d98b15cf7c7c9120147dbee9446ef 48613e55b3376dd8707898981c150afa7ee52e07d3e52c3928ebc7be719754ea 8a612ee2c27364ba547c17b9eb9845db6e95bf02e90b338c503f45733f26aef0 83c9717781bf7a2627a19148ab5e56f08521049d955f97e0219dae1ebafffdef 9424c4343e587213d957e7460b360fbaaafb32daab528e0d67442358ad3ca14a 4dcd19d6c3760b3eebaed9a4d4daba2023eee355fdcd83b2b4ccc00d47b044fd dd0e29e2a87e047edd92ea2abcfe6ec938ea03a4e9c6d49556c5eef39be6a569 Winner: Selected 14th transaction : 48613e55b3376dd8707898981c150afa7ee52e07d3e52c3928ebc7be719754ea Selected 3rd address : 1Gk6r3HUmmCiz6Ak9NyMaDpHTwv711Cm7a Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.4 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 21, 2013, 11:37:44 AM GIVEAWAY RESULTS, DAY 6
Yesterday there were 25 transactions. Things are picking up steam after the events of last weekend (hardware malfunction). Only four more giveaway days left! CONGRATULATIONS 1FsKuysFywCnQkN6JSNQ4k4QSsJjomR1gn, YOU WIN 0.1 BTC! (https://blockchain.info/tx/835c0ff14ef822cd596e801b6bd229fa13abd8dda5265b95ba5a47f1c0f842c1) DETAILS: Quote Last Block Hash: 00000000000000c44d81067142d9d12d0fd631d97cb6e911281c0b4acc9c600b Transactions (25): 572d8d17730c9f7c4fff03b20cc0af7cdd89b8d4259e4f4a7e5fa1f7015f44b2 381f24c668611177a0d81f1ecfba2622eb2b95f0f0ddd638211209516505f0e1 ddb5b49c02ae30a6f8da0c1ccdd65647d1d3ace58165611ccb3a82ec92f3df16 831c3e6038b6f6ab84fee8f6241020347493586d1c9b16e59316d7d476415c05 63536925de1c32207ec5457b2d6c39e1c5dba8a7fb76b1c310b3c97c465279aa 1cb66c2277145d6eb3bc6f5295dd8d2fae77920fe58198792ba0784100923445 9fbb818e04c6f43d732fd26706b761fd11d321b964fcc055007384cb79093d39 746bce6dd1e68de2d0ad6019841e4ab354cdd2a5f801459a90a135ccb22f93af 14b101a2a216698a1bf80d3d8fe22de625f554a1d0fbbb1de8e9ae6bd31e7dce 294687fe393c48546cbaed8fe170be5f85fe4ad476a1359fb015f90a4d7a4ff6 f9cb15a2c3cc7c51db658ae21fe15b2f2321f180ecb910e53d008769211dc78a 74ab486678589bcc373da858112975cb3cf55592412d79a21a65ee4dd1020191 7218aad043996b74e10a7fcacb6ad452e6f528e8267d1ad68f6a8fa62166d9c5 e5bb63dfc4b297efda785422894a49f9757085fe32512bf6ed5e8e4aacc1bc4e 23bf8f55f66ddadeb80ccb432eeb1299e24c269b1256cef81b638bea07e4c0f0 15e6ccabffde548b5fdfb8057ed97e0658eee0ff2935e1dea1e5c070cf3fe89b 61b0b2f9a915c0e1277e26b1bb0c2c82037c3535d30ce29bb864aeba15ac06bd 150632b5aa0a2b79c7941ef4ffb9a76a9b49ce24254d9c68385d7456a4b29edf cd4715ab0739cfd19e75096388318255936cb666f4985ad4b2532b10ba212104 65c781418a8f45de1b37926f558f4325cc00d04cbdfd614b8bf97beccedb22d3 87f1270ba979cba4dcbcc35419486cd5230e6adfe91c4bfa4b1a581f0e5d95c4 89c38da15e8fcdfed97a1148ea36a934d5364f7f1ad256697221f7663db148ba a3015dfed1b002d28d30e245abb364a5e2a75478fef583dc2369810081ef559d 585c2194e13575475f5cf6643aa69c585cff8e251b6260d57d3d274363a52ae2 f7b0a7bd077320aebd74bc459388568cd09c08bd38b45248426a6f49c764e302 Winner: Selected 5th transaction. Selected 11th entry: 1FsKuysFywCnQkN6JSNQ4k4QSsJjomR1gn. Giveaway transaction: 835c0ff14ef822cd596e801b6bd229fa13abd8dda5265b95ba5a47f1c0f842c1 Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.4 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 21, 2013, 02:52:16 PM Thisisgil, I'm trying something a little bit different. This time, the buckets all have different thresholds: red has BTC0.04, green has BTC0.05, and blue has BTC0.065. This should balance the game -- there shouldn't be long periods with red at BTC0, because the expected minimum value for each bucket is very close.
That is, 42% of 0.04 is very close to 33% of 0.05, which is very close to 25% of 0.065. To make the numbers nice and round, I would prefer to set the thresholds at: red = 0.05, green = 0.06, blue = 0.08. This would be a nice simplification to make. But let it be as it is for now. We'll see how this goes. Folks, let me know what you think. Thanks for playing! Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.4 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 23, 2013, 05:39:24 PM I think that the previous change was unsuccessful, so I reverted it. It changed the flavor of the game too much, and made the rules more complicated. So now we're back at 0.05 BTC rounds.
Also, real life has kept me _way_ too busy, and it doesn't seem like it's going to stop very soon. I did not post giveaway results yesterday. Yesterday (after the change) there were only five rounds. So I will hold off on the giveaway another day. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.4 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 23, 2013, 09:08:40 PM Ah! There was a brief moment where I messed up the reversion to 0.05 BTC. Rounds weren't triggering. It should be working fine now, however. Bucket away!
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.4 BTC LEFT. Post by: counter on June 24, 2013, 11:00:08 AM Just wanted to say that this is a fun game and I enjoyed it last time I played. I want to limit the amount of gambling right now but I do look forward to playing in the future. ;)
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.4 BTC LEFT. Post by: bitshy on June 24, 2013, 10:10:50 PM GIVEAWAY RESULTS #7!
Due to a lower transaction volume, I clumped together the last two days with giveaway day #7. This gives 28 transactions, which is around the same volume as the previous giveaways -- so I don't think anyone has really been hurt. This means that the giveaway can last a bit longer, too. So, having said that.... CONGRATULATIONS 1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaB, YOU WIN 0.1 BTC! (https://blockchain.info/tx/70a5ebdd5fbd29baacbf58a7ef6442515117c244e17aa5cfa1d86e81f5f2bd4d) DETAILS: Quote Last Block Hash: 0000000000000026da486bc61d536319c050ddd13261f66c276a16891b31a0dd Transactions (28): 43956acd20ae8c554867da3498dd13355c5f2c9348a4abea190b3234d19f5112 4762ba8c0d2ae369df6a61c9d36972defd957ecc5a1903f13d06aa230032b22d 06f3273cecdd7ede82076f66da2457dce3490f7ba8c50f5ca65eae1c328a5cba 88d9c9ae91caa68c8eab72eea165e4d61162a3aaf6b35482413414822c42a391 2b35e5ba47d4f32f36a5a535af9b7716e1b643ad6d7fac755d20d2c3c34237b3 fc58900feb9a577e5a082128cae9b4030976da8625f26de027ae00979c7781ab 69e089efaff9f9ec0128e32c88f536ec67e903f8b0c3f0bb26cabc154e552980 d698b3b71c2137a634447d76def9342cc8a3ec7f9dcfbf27868a8a63fb861270 5ef3c1208925ca0ad81eacaca48ee798f0a3f3cded0c18e006a53d883ce64cfd 56edfeb65aa201c5629871f8b974f355ccfe3db2b52595ec6c079a796a376877 f3e2aa5d8cba4729b85fc7fed99d50d64967abbdf5e3f015db055cb89ca8a1f0 f4e27187ea5df3fda6407bffaa595500a1fb4de03fb1cf33836a1df590653c52 30e7cf90a9d52893885a670dca7e221a4c92e45c66cb036d933d0507acffd1c5 d37021ef8c320b5648fad343e7acf9579d382a054aa0045d133af26efc2fb925 e26b908bf3cfeb41307fa2c953c0de60e4b9a7810a774202c2658c19a58a5737 381a040cc842c84dd066a6cc78fb2d3e45d52d5811a1cdee95a6b1ddf082e6a8 1e284a64112a959ece2205f464a6326412ae742ef2bc06fc0e81dd4e37ca4a24 bffeebbd13b8beab216f075cc857eb0ba5a369943f1d4fd543a5b7c54adcff08 dbe7d33833161ceaebcfd230124797bef27dcc6c061042303a6b0d2475299329 20a33f1060bc11b6546bb108041f66bf40a79c64ab4081f4046736b8a96ea8fb a877b79dc38055d2abadbdcedcdb32f6e048277445dba891ce59a018b3c5e214 02a746e046d18ee962a788765a15ccc5b18def1051da849c0a734fc9f4b2f5f2 71ff47e7beaa7e2002dcfef3dd540ba4c1288d93a1808067192f50089f9409c1 8c17fa8abc436305b4d12bc3cc14dde006e61ae58beb4071c177027cbc9e3990 f3e31598e31f91e58fc61ea024a2bfe5cb6a0c527c0a078b0b7964e9525cbd5e 907ffd93656f85b5ee41949918e3a1a1064fcb0dafccf01b9d4819a1d53976ba e5222984e25f4b7b6fafa51025fea05449ef881035bb57237a9e12aad5afb69b 244d858d2e18e570971be5929d380e5e93a91a1cec41505c6fc6fec3f73250a6 0296d325c2fd0a02e03cf425027085b13209c8e5ebc95ed79941d93042c4bfc0 Winner: Selected 6th transaction. Selected 4th entry. Winner address is 1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaB. Giveaway transaction: 70a5ebdd5fbd29baacbf58a7ef6442515117c244e17aa5cfa1d86e81f5f2bd4d Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.3 BTC LEFT. Post by: i3lome on June 24, 2013, 10:27:39 PM Wooo, I won. I love this game so most will go back in the bucket
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.3 BTC LEFT. Post by: i3lome on July 17, 2013, 10:07:59 AM Is buckets down for good, Ive been waiting for it to come back up.
Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.3 BTC LEFT. Post by: darkmule on July 18, 2013, 05:03:52 PM Satoshi Buckets. Satoshi Buckets.
Did anyone even try saying that name out loud before naming a game that? Good Christ. Title: Re: Satoshi Buckets - A game with a winning strategy! 1 BTC GIVEAWAY, 0.3 BTC LEFT. Post by: Jgguy on July 18, 2013, 05:42:22 PM I think it's gone unfortunately. The transaction fees seemed to be hard to workaround.
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