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Title: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: Karin on May 23, 2013, 04:20:07 PM Introducing Asteroid, a self-contained, open-source, ready-to-run solution for Bitcoin and Litecoin mining on Macs! Download 0.9.7 now (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php) (updated Feb 15, 2014) http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/Screenshot_0.9.6_expanded.png Normal view http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/Screenshot_0.9.7_collapsed.png Collapsed view Everything is self-contained within a single app. There's no install process, no extra drivers, just save and run. The UI is clean and minimal, with many features not found in any other miner. Features in first release: - easy install, clean unified UI with full retina graphics - pre-configured with settings for the most popular pools, just enter your login and go - crowdsourced settings, so you get the best hashrates as found by other Asteroid users - live coin balances - monitor from your smartphone with MobileMiner (http://www.mobileminerapp.com/)! - uses keychain to keep your passwords organized and secure - hash rate in dock icon, as well as device stats in dock menu - in-app feedback - automatic software updates - open-source - and uses the unofficial cgminer for Mac OS X (http://spaceman.ca/cgminer/) and sgminer for Mac OS X (http://spaceman.ca/sgminer/) binaries - ultra-transparent - Asteroid is written in an interpreted programming language (AppleScriptObjC), so you can read the exact same code that runs it (instead of trusting a pre-compiled binary) - cgminer 3.12.3, cgminer 3.7.2, and sgminer 4.1.0 on the backend Screenshot of pool setup: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/pool_setup_0.9.7.png Screenshot of dock menu: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/dockmenu_0.9.2.jpg Screenshot of Preferences - General: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/prefs_general_0.9.7.png Screenshot of Preferences - Litecoin: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/prefs_scrypt_0.9.7.png Screenshot of Preferences - MobileMiner: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/prefs_mobileminer_0.9.6.png Screenshots of MobileMiner with Asteroid's stats on an iOS device: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/mobileminer_eg2.png http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/mobileminer_eg1.png System requirements: - Mac OS X 10.8 (10.7 coming soon, in the meantime check out my cgminer for Mac OS X (http://spaceman.ca/cgminer) for 10.5+ support) - Discrete graphics card (such as nVidia or AMD), or an Intel HD 4000+, or a USB-based mining device Download: Latest version - 0.9.7 (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php) If you are seeing problems upgrading between versions, or at other times, launch Asteroid with the option key held down. This will reset your preferences and Asteroid will start fresh. Website: www.asteroidapp.com (http://www.asteroidapp.com/) Twitter: @AsteroidApp (https://twitter.com/AsteroidApp) (app news), @kcspaceman (https://twitter.com/kcspaceman) (me) Donations: Support this project by automatically donating some of your hashing time via the in-app Preferences (where you can donate X minutes every Y hours). It's gotta be the easiest way to donate to a project ever, eh? BTC: 18jzhWi8VU3RtDAyEGFCapkftG7haJyhmY (https://blockchain.info/address/18jzhWi8VU3RtDAyEGFCapkftG7haJyhmY) LTC: LSXnenY65x9VXL2iRWhchzfLFQsKHTLwGj (http://ltc.block-explorer.com/address/LSXnenY65x9VXL2iRWhchzfLFQsKHTLwGj) DOGE: DRvqwL8FZucQNmDCvVQnQTGPUvDhCUvA6Y (http://dogechain.info/address/DRvqwL8FZucQNmDCvVQnQTGPUvDhCUvA6Y) Licensing: GPL v3 for Asteroid, GPL v2, GPL v3 and custom open-source-friendly licences for various included code (see included) Source code: Go to "View source code" under the Asteroid menu, or right click on Asteroid.app -> Show Package Contents -> Contents -> Resources -> AppDelegate.scpt & AppHelper.scpt Asteroid is written in AppleScriptObjC, an interpreted language hybrid of Cocoa and AppleScript. This means that the code you read on your computer is exactly the same code that gets executed. Open the source file, edit the code and run the app, that's it! Every Mac in the last 15 years comes pre-installed with everything you need to edit Asteroid (no Xcode or special command-line utilities needed). AppleScriptObjC is also really easy to read, super powerful, and a great language if you want to learn more about programming. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on May 23, 2013, 04:42:03 PM Greetings.
I would like to try it with my MacBook (GeForce 9400M, 2.0 MHash/s with DiabloMiner). Best regards. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: emunebtk on May 24, 2013, 03:07:59 AM Would love to test it out on my Mac Pro running 10.7 Lion...does it have scrypt enabled for Litecoin mining or only BTC? PM sent
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on May 24, 2013, 04:38:48 AM Yes, it's compiled for scrypt / litecoin though the UI isn't hooked up yet. That's coming in the next few versions. Tentative feature roadmap is here (http://spaceman.ca/asteroid/releasenotes/0.4.1.html), and can change based on what people ask for (squeaky wheel and all that)!
Of particular note is that Asteroid will (eventually) include crowdsourced settings to help everyone get the best hashrates without needing to fiddle with command-line toggles, etc. Asteroid will manage it for you. And I discovered something cool when I was running some stats tonight. Because Asteroid is a front-end to cgminer, you'd think it would use up more CPU time in total. But Asteroid + cgminer uses less CPU (6% versus 8%) than if you ran cgminer alone in a terminal window! The text interface cgminer that uses is a relative pig compared to the nice GUI Asteroid uses. Asteroid disables that interface and uses its own. So hey, extra CPU time for other stuff, cooler computer, etc :) emunebtc, I sent you a PM back. Thanks for being a guinea pig for me! Still hoping for public beta this weekend. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on May 24, 2013, 09:29:29 AM Greetings.
I tried Asteroid 0.4.1 in my MacBook (13-inch Aluminium Late 2008), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GBytes 1333 MHz DDR3, Nvidea GeForce 9400M 256 MBytes, OS X 10.8.3. I got the following error, when trying to initialize miner (I selected feedback, to send you the crash report ???): Quote The miner API never came up, therefore we can't do anything. Please report this bug. I didn't modified any option (Intensity 2 flexible) and was trying to connect to Deepbit.net3 tries later (killing and starting again the program), it started mining without errors, it connected to Deepbit.net, but the mining was always with 0.00 MH/s value. With DiabloMiner I can get (only) 1.7 to 2.0 MH/s: Quote Starting DiabloMiner (GPU)... ----------------------------- [5/24/13 9:40:33 AM] Started [5/24/13 9:40:33 AM] Connecting to: http://eu.triplemining.com:8344/ [5/24/13 9:40:33 AM] Using Apple OpenCL 1.2 (Dec 4 2012 18:26:30) [5/24/13 9:40:35 AM] Added GeForce 9400M (#1) (2 CU, local work size of 256) mhash: 1.8/1.9 | accept: 1 | reject: 0 | hw error: 0 I tried then to select the TripleMining pool... same problem (API never came up) and the program freezes, with "initializing miner..." forever. This time, I tried several times and always got the same API error. That way, I couldn't select any other mining pool. As a new feature, it would be nice to have a direct button to access the console or better, a own console, like Windows's GUIMiner and others. P.S.: MacBook Console: Quote 24/05/2013 10:51:22.042 AM Console[4371]: Marker - 24May 2013 10:51:22 24/05/2013 10:51:31.013 AM cgminer[4383]: Started cgminer 3.1.1 24/05/2013 10:51:32.727 AM cgminer[4383]: Probing for an alive pool 24/05/2013 10:51:38.855 AM ReportCrash[4421]: Saved crash report for cgminer[4383] version 0 to /Users/ruicosta/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/cgminer_2013-05-24-105138_Rui-Costas-MacBook.crash 24/05/2013 10:51:50.437 AM Asteroid[4374]: alert: The miner API never came up, therefore we can't do anything. Please report this bug. 24/05/2013 10:51:54.681 AM Console[4371]: Marker - 24May 2013 10:51:54 Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on May 24, 2013, 09:52:26 AM Thanks for the report!
I tried Asteroid 0.4.1 in my MacBook (13-inch Aluminium Late 2008), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GBytes 1333 MHz DDR3, Nvidea GeForce 9400M 256 MBytes, OS X 10.8.3. I got the following error, when trying to initialize miner: Quote The miner API never came up, therefore we can't do anything. Please report this bug. I didn't modified any option (Intensity 2 flexible) and was trying to connect to Deepbit.net3 tries later (killing and starting again the program), it started mining without errors, it connected to Deepbit.net, but the mining was always with 0.00 MH/s value. Looks like cgminer is crashing when Asteroid tries to launch it. Could you please send me the crash log file it generated (/Users/ruicosta/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/cgminer_2013-05-24-105138_Rui-Costas-MacBook.crash)? You can send it to aster7oid@spa-ceman.ca (remove the 7 and the dash before emailing that address). As a new feature, it would be nice to have a log window, to see the connections to the mining pool and other conversations. I agree, and this is in the works. It will go one step better and organize the errors for you for easy submission through the in-app "Send feedback" feature. The status line is also due for some tweaks so the user has a better idea what it's doing when things go wrong.Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on May 24, 2013, 10:13:17 AM I have another report of an nVidia 9400M user unable to run cgminer on a mac due to a segmentation fault 11 from a few weeks ago.
If you are comfortable with the terminal, try the following to see if any these work. If so, it should be a simple fix for the next Asteroid. 1) Open Terminal 2) Type "cd " and then drag-drop Asteroid on the Terminal window, press enter. 3) Type "cd Contents/Resources", press enter 4) Type each one of the lines below and see if cgminer starts and begins mining: ./cgminer --hotplug 0 -k diablo ./cgminer --hotplug 0 -k poclbm ./cgminer --hotplug 0 -k phatk ./cgminer --hotplug 0 -k diakgcn You'll need to enter your pool settings each time. Thanks! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on May 24, 2013, 10:46:34 AM Thanks for the report! I tried Asteroid 0.4.1 in my MacBook (13-inch Aluminium Late 2008), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GBytes 1333 MHz DDR3, Nvidea GeForce 9400M 256 MBytes, OS X 10.8.3. I got the following error, when trying to initialize miner: Quote The miner API never came up, therefore we can't do anything. Please report this bug. I didn't modified any option (Intensity 2 flexible) and was trying to connect to Deepbit.net3 tries later (killing and starting again the program), it started mining without errors, it connected to Deepbit.net, but the mining was always with 0.00 MH/s value. Looks like cgminer is crashing when Asteroid tries to launch it. Could you please send me the crash log file it generated (/Users/ruicosta/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/cgminer_2013-05-24-105138_Rui-Costas-MacBook.crash)? You can send it to aster7oid@spa-ceman.ca (remove the 7 and the dash before emailing that address). As a new feature, it would be nice to have a log window, to see the connections to the mining pool and other conversations. I agree, and this is in the works. It will go one step better and organize the errors for you for easy submission through the in-app "Send feedback" feature. The status line is also due for some tweaks so the user has a better idea what it's doing when things go wrong.Karin, the last quote of my last message is the copy/past of the Mac console. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on May 24, 2013, 10:53:18 AM Karin, the last quote of my last message is the copy/past of the Mac console. Yes, and thanks for that (I posted before your edit)! Cgminer also made its own crashlog with extra information that may help me with debugging, info that isn't dumped to the console when it crashes. It's the file located on your computer here: /Users/ruicosta/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/cgminer_2013-05-24-105138_Rui-Costas-MacBook.crash. If you're able to send/post that it may help too.Thanks! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on May 24, 2013, 11:15:02 AM crash file sent by email ::)
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on June 01, 2013, 10:06:07 PM Wow, the response has been amazing, thank you! @AsteroidApp (https://twitter.com/AsteroidApp) on Twitter may be your easiest way to follow development.
I can tell there is a market for Mac mining apps. I've had 16,000+ visitors (not hits, but visitors) to my cgminer tutorial since I put it online only a month ago! I've posted a new version, 0.4.2, for private beta testers to try out. It incorporates many tweaks, fixes, and improvements. I've also lowered the system requirements to Mac OS X 10.6. I may do 10.5 PPC support if anyone besides me is interested (for USB-based miners) http://spaceman.ca/asteroid/images/Screenshot_AsteroidMenu.png In-app feedback is live, please use that to report any bugs or your thoughts. However, I need to add some code to my webserver in order to save logs from the in-app feedback. So today, please copy-paste any errors from into the feedback window as those still send great. Tomorrow you can simply click the checkbox and your debug logs will be submitted to me automatically (all without a software update on your end) Litecoin support coming this week :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: SpaceCadet on June 03, 2013, 03:44:47 PM This looks to be very useful! What version of cgminer are you running? I've only been able to find osx binaries for 2.4.? (not at the machine). It runs well enough, but lacks a lot of what I have on my windoze version. I use shell files for the different pools I use to simply the start up, but the gui looks much cleaner (once I get the conf tweaked for a given pool :). Scypt and stratum support would also be very nice!
I'm using the extra cycles on one of my kids iMac i5 with an amd video card. Using cgminer 2.4 with no ability to tweak the card settings, I get around 80 mh/s at -i 8. I found an app to spin up the case fans so it runs much cooler than it did with the stock fan settings. (iMacs weren't built for driving hard!). Cheers! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on June 03, 2013, 08:42:51 PM Using cgminer 3.1.1, although 3.2.0 came out a few days ago. I'm working out a few issues on porting it and will likely have it in the next version of Asteroid.
Asteroid has been working great on iMacs, I sent you an invite to participate in the private beta test as a PM so you can try it for yourself :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: webjoe on June 16, 2013, 06:16:08 PM Looks good I'd like to try it with my ASICMiner USB Block Erupter and I'm happy to post back feedback through the app. How can I download it?
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on June 18, 2013, 09:15:19 PM Thanks webjoe! I'll send you a PM with details
Given the changing landscape of casual mining, I've focused on Litecoin and USB mining in recent weeks. I'm pretty comfortable where they are and in a few days I hope to make it all public (otherwise it'll be private forever... the pitfall of being a perfectionist...). Latest features include OS 10.6 support, cgminer 3.3.0, Litecoin, USB mining, and misc improvements throughout based on tester feedback. :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wasthatawolf on June 25, 2013, 01:09:05 AM Just got a USB Block Erupter and I'd love to try out the Asteroid software with my Macbook Pro
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: adviceadam on June 25, 2013, 07:14:22 AM I have a Mac Pro (with a 5770) that I would love to try this out on.
Title: Crash Report Post by: A_Member on June 26, 2013, 01:02:25 AM Asteroid crashes when I do either of the following things:
Choose a bitcoin or litecoin pool, enter any username and password(valid or not), and press accept or cancel. Press the play button over the hashrate indicator bar. The "Send Feedback" button on the "Feedback" window doesn't do anything. (That's why I didn't send feedback through that route.) I am on a MacBook with a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor, 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 memory, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB graphics, and I am running Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4 (11E53). Here is the crash report from one of my crashes: Code: Process: Asteroid [5155] I hope that helps you fix some of the bugs. Title: Re: Crash Report Post by: Karin on June 26, 2013, 04:22:26 PM Thanks A_Member! That's the first serious problem I've seen reported on the latest build. The send feedback routine didn't work because the miner backend hadn't created a log file yet, which Asteroid erroneously assumes is always the case, so at this point it could be a problem with Asteroid. I'll attempt a few things for 0.8.1 that should help with your setup.
Asteroid crashes when I do either of the following things: Choose a bitcoin or litecoin pool, enter any username and password(valid or not), and press accept or cancel. Press the play button over the hashrate indicator bar. The "Send Feedback" button on the "Feedback" window doesn't do anything. (That's why I didn't send feedback through that route.) I am on a MacBook with a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor, 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 memory, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB graphics, and I am running Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4 (11E53). <snip> Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: SpaceCadet on June 26, 2013, 05:08:04 PM The new version is working on my (well, my son's :) iMac - the new features are very handy! Everything seemed to work as advertised, though I didn't have a lot of time to spend with it yet.
Some more things to consider: - cgminer works well without much tweaking for sha256, but you have to tweak it a bit to get the best performance with scrypt with ATI/AMD GPUs. See the scrypt readme for details, but passing the number of shade processors or concurrent threads can make a big improvement. Of course, each card model has different values. Luckily, there aren't many options on a mac. Unfortunately, I haven't investigated the card on my iMac yet so I can't report what my instance would use. I noticed there's a command line dialog box - does that pass parameters to cgminer? Not sure what tweaks you could make with an Nvidia GPU. Some ideas to think about: -- Add an ability to read a .conf file (might have to be unique to each site) to get the tweaks -- Add a dialog box/form that has some of the main tweaks exposed that a user could set -- In a perfect world, it could ID the specific card then set the tweaks for it from a database Also, advertise that it has stratum support :) (I know, I should have guessed that since it uses cgminer in the backend). More as I find it... Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on June 26, 2013, 05:51:31 PM Some more things to consider: - cgminer works well without much tweaking for sha256, but you have to tweak it a bit to get the best performance with scrypt with ATI/AMD GPUs. See the scrypt readme for details, but passing the number of shade processors or concurrent threads can make a big improvement. Of course, each card model has different values. Luckily, there aren't many options on a mac. Unfortunately, I haven't investigated the card on my iMac yet so I can't report what my instance would use. <snip> -- Add a dialog box/form that has some of the main tweaks exposed that a user could set -- In a perfect world, it could ID the specific card then set the tweaks for it from a database -- emphasis mine (Karin) You're in luck, this is exactly what Asteroid does (and a feature I love to talk about)! Each time you start scrypt mining, Asteroid will wait for your hash rate to stabilize, and then check your settings/hashrates with the Asteroid webserver. If someone has found better settings for your card, Asteroid will let you know. For example, this is what you'll see in Asteroid's Litecoin preferences: http://spaceman.ca/asteroid/images/Screenshot_LitecoinConfig.png Which could lead to this: http://spaceman.ca/asteroid/images/Screenshot_litecoinrecommend.png By default, Asteroid won't upload your settings to the server, but it will check see if anyone else has found better settings for your hardware and make recommendations accordingly. What I would like is for more people to check the box that says http://spaceman.ca/asteroid/images/Screenshot_uploadsettings.png so that we can collectively populate the database with more settings for each Mac / graphics card. Of course, any tweaking you do can greatly benefit other Asteroid users if you find a combination that works well. I've only revealed thread-concurrency and work size as these are the two most significant and "best" values to tweak, according to the scrypt readme for cgminer. :) I noticed there's a command line dialog box - does that pass parameters to cgminer? You bet. I'll clarify the wording on the dialog box for the next version. Also, advertise that it has stratum support :) (I know, I should have guessed that since it uses cgminer in the backend). Good point! I'll do that. I should lift a few terms from the cgminer specs to be completely transparent. More as I find it... Awesome, keep 'em coming, and thank you for taking the time to post this. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: SpaceCadet on June 26, 2013, 06:02:24 PM Very cool! Can't wait to check it all out - great work!
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on June 29, 2013, 06:57:51 PM 0.8.1 is out this morning, release notes are here (http://spaceman.ca/asteroid/releasenotes/0.8.1.html), and duplicated below:
Compatibility on 10.6 and 10.7 needs some tweaks, although the miner backend should work fine if you were so inclined to access it through the app bundle. More details (and a new project!) to be released soon! ;) You testers have been amazing, I'm even getting text messages from some of you. Don't forget to check out the website too, if you haven't seen it yet: http://www.asteroidapp.com/ Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on July 01, 2013, 11:43:18 AM Greetings.
The new version still aborts with the "Error -54". Very strange. Already sent feedback with debugging info. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 01, 2013, 01:46:36 PM Greetings. Hey Rui, looks like Asteroid was waiting for the miner to crash, and then diagnose the error -54. However, the miner doesn't crash, it's just not able to load the kernels. I've fixed this for the next version.The new version still aborts with the "Error -54". Very strange. Already sent feedback with debugging info. In the meantime though, you can try a fix by entering "--worksize 64 -I d" in the "Start command-line miner..." command under the "Mode" menu. If that works, then great, the new version of Asteroid will handle that automatically. If not, I'll have to look for other causes of that error. Thanks for the report! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on July 01, 2013, 02:15:39 PM Same... sent another feedback.
Strange things are happening with the trackpad of the laptop, stopping to work when Asteroid is mining... If I stop Asteroid, the trackpad works again. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: djtriggz on July 10, 2013, 04:10:38 PM I have here a macbook pro retina 13 and asicminer usb disruptor
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 15, 2013, 03:21:09 AM 0.9.0 is now out! New features include complete device agnosticism (countless multiple miners!), temperature monitoring with alerts and automatic cooldowns, hot plugging devices, lifetime stats and the latest unofficial "cgminer for Mac OS X" binaries (http://spaceman.ca/cgminer/).
Asteroid is still in private beta, but as you can tell by the version number, 0.9.0, I am rapidly approaching where I'll do a public beta. Full changelog is here (http://www.asteroidapp.com/releasenotes/0.9.0.html). Here's a screenshot of the latest build: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/Screenshot_0.9.0_2.png :D Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: mnyonpa on July 15, 2013, 04:02:25 AM Will you add bfgminer support too?
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 15, 2013, 04:52:30 AM Will you add bfgminer support too? Asteroid has all the hooks for multiple miners, and it's not the first time I've been asked about it, but it would require additional time to maintain a universal binary version of bfgminer and some time to test compatibility. Time that would take me away from maintaining cgminer and Asteroid. But that being said I'm not averse to doing so if the demand is there.The other side of that is a smooth user experience for the target audience, which are everyday users who don't need to be saturated with details (I'm thinking similar to the BitMinter audience, but on any pool and a cleaner UI). Again, that's somewhat of a cop-out but I can't ignore that KISS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle) is a strong design principle for this project. But let me ask since you brought it up, and I'm honestly very interested, what do you find you like in bfgminer that you don't see in cgminer? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: mnyonpa on July 15, 2013, 05:17:08 AM But let me ask since you brought it up, and I'm honestly very interested, what do you find you like in bfgminer that you don't see in cgminer? Well, for me it is simply that I have an ASIC and corresponding drivers installed, so I can freely switch between bfgminer and BitMinter client, but as soon as I want to use cgminer, I have to remove kernel extensions and reboot, which is a little bit inconvenient :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 15, 2013, 02:31:54 PM But let me ask since you brought it up, and I'm honestly very interested, what do you find you like in bfgminer that you don't see in cgminer? Well, for me it is simply that I have an ASIC and corresponding drivers installed, so I can freely switch between bfgminer and BitMinter client, but as soon as I want to use cgminer, I have to remove kernel extensions and reboot, which is a little bit inconvenient :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 15, 2013, 07:19:05 PM If you're in need of more beta testers, I've got a couple of MacBook Pros that I can test on, along with two of the ASIC USB miners.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 15, 2013, 08:10:47 PM I've had a bunch of requests in the last couple hours, you should all have received invites now. And thanks! :)
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 16, 2013, 07:59:27 PM OK, here's something odd I've observed running on two different Macs.
I'm using a pair of the USB miners. In the "Asteroid" window, both ASICMINER options are checked. The lower one is labeled 1, the upper is labeled 2. I start the mining, and things spin up (so to speak). Block 1 shows it is tooling along at around 300+ Mh/s. Block 2 shows it is "starting." If I uncheck Block 2, everything comes to a halt--zero Mh/s on both, and they both show "stopped." Yet, the Miner Console shows the thing is still working. Odd, no? Here's the other weird thing. I would expect that if both miners are running that the speed would be 600+ Mh/s, but the pool stats show it's only half that amount. I'll send a bug report directly to you, Karin. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 16, 2013, 08:02:15 PM Oh, forgot to mention--if I have just one of the miners plugged in, it runs at about 250 Mh/s rather than 300+.
Very strange indeed! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 16, 2013, 09:05:30 PM Oh, forgot to mention--if I have just one of the miners plugged in, it runs at about 250 Mh/s rather than 300+. Awesome, thanks for the reports and log files! It looks like they're mostly UI bugs. With what you provided I should be able to clean it up easily enough (looks like it just gets confused with identically internally named devices).Very strange indeed! I'll do some tests on the rates reported by the pools, although it's been my experience that they typically under-report hash rates and shouldn't be seen as very accurate. Have you seen accurate hash rates reported by that pool with those same devices in other mining programs? Your logs show you averaging 625MH/s and the number of submitted shares looks good for your hash rate. Nonetheless, I'll of course double check. Thanks again! :D Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 16, 2013, 10:06:09 PM Here's some more info, which I think is good.
On a whim (and on a different laptop, the one at home) I plugged one miner in, launched Asteroid, and fired it up. After it was up and running, I plugged the second one in. At this point, the Asteroid window went kablooey--the two miner bars got written on top of the overall bar, so it's a bit messed up UI wise. But, the console shows definitely higher hash rates more along the lines of what I have seen using Bitminter, for example. So, other than the UI problem that I "discovered" I'd say things are looking up! ;D Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 16, 2013, 10:33:37 PM I'll do some tests on the rates reported by the pools, although it's been my experience that they typically under-report hash rates and shouldn't be seen as very accurate. Have you seen accurate hash rates reported by that pool with those same devices in other mining programs? Your logs show you averaging 625MH/s and the number of submitted shares looks good for your hash rate. Nonetheless, I'll of course double check. Thanks again! :D Oops, forgot to answer this question! Yes, hash rates reported by Eligius (and other pools) with these devices in MacMiner have reported in the 660 Mh/s range (2x330). But, the rates in MacMiner were using the FPGA/ASIC miner that he has built in, not cgminer. Perhaps that's the difference? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 17, 2013, 11:59:39 AM To help illustrate, here's the link to my stats where you can see the 600-700 range using MacMiner's FPGA/ASIC option and then the lower range using Asteroid and cgminer.
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1BoCjgNQmsc8EK3Fmo1QgBjwuUTsy5ys66 (http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1BoCjgNQmsc8EK3Fmo1QgBjwuUTsy5ys66) I'll try to quiet down and be less of a pest now. ;) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 17, 2013, 01:40:27 PM Interesting, thanks for the update wlwesq. I think you're on to something, as I seem to confirm it here as well (normal hash rates reported, but only half being reported by the pool). I spent most of yesterday trying to isolate the problem and will continue looking today as well. :) Signs point to perhaps my compilation of cgminer, which I'm currently troubleshooting. Asteroid itself (the GUI) doesn't seem to have a direct effect at all. I'll let you know, and thanks again!
EDIT: The cgminer build used by MacMiner appears to have the same issue. Bfgminer seems to be unaffected. Still investigating... Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 17, 2013, 04:20:32 PM It is interesting, definitely, and curious. The miner output window shows everything is kosher. Yet the pool (and the Asteroid GUI) show half of the hash rate. Doesn't make sense, and I'll look forward to what you find out. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 17, 2013, 09:58:20 PM Just a quick update. For grins I switched mining pools to BTC Guild, and the "only half the hash rate is showing up" experience remains. The console shows otherwise, but both Asteroid and the pool are reporting roughly half of the rate the console reports.
So, at least we know it's not something tied to a particular pool (unless both Eligius and BTC Guild have the same issue, whatever it is). Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 18, 2013, 01:39:52 AM Yes, the rate displayed in Asteroid is just a UI bug due to multiple identically-named miners. The half-hashrate being reported to the pool (only with USB devices) seems to be a problem with my cgminer binaries and is definitely a serious bug for anyone doing USB-based mining with Asteroid now. However, I've narrowed down the problem and should have a fix ready soon! :)
I'll roll it out to the cgminer for Mac OS X (http://spaceman.ca/cgminer) binaries I maintain for the community too. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 18, 2013, 09:24:20 AM Yes, the rate displayed in Asteroid is just a UI bug due to multiple identically-named miners. The half-hashrate being reported to the pool (only with USB devices) seems to be a problem with my cgminer binaries and is definitely a serious bug for anyone doing USB-based mining with Asteroid now. However, I've narrowed down the problem and should have a fix ready soon! :) I'll roll it out to the cgminer for Mac OS X (http://spaceman.ca/cgminer) binaries I maintain for the community too. Excellent news! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 18, 2013, 01:45:40 PM ... wlwesq, are you using Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) on those machines?Excellent news! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 18, 2013, 02:28:42 PM But let me ask since you brought it up, and I'm honestly very interested, what do you find you like in bfgminer that you don't see in cgminer? Well, for me it is simply that I have an ASIC and corresponding drivers installed, so I can freely switch between bfgminer and BitMinter client, but as soon as I want to use cgminer, I have to remove kernel extensions and reboot, which is a little bit inconvenient :) In the meantime I saved the relevant code as an applet for yourself or others to turn on/off the com.silabs.driver.CP210xVCPDriver drivers without rebooting. It works quite well! I use it for testing Asteroid and how it plays with other miners. You can download it here: Toggle USB to UART.app (http://www.asteroidapp.com/files/ToggleUSBtoUART.zip). Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: HellDiverUK on July 18, 2013, 10:20:21 PM I'm getting half the hashrate issue with cgminer 3.3.1 on Windows (downloaded from the official place earlier this evening). Maybe it's just a cgminer issue rather than your build?
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 18, 2013, 10:37:30 PM ... wlwesq, are you using Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) on those machines?Excellent news! No, just 10.8.4. I haven't felt the urge to get into the OS X beta (yet). 8) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 18, 2013, 10:41:00 PM I'm getting half the hashrate issue with cgminer 3.3.1 on Windows (downloaded from the official place earlier this evening). Maybe it's just a cgminer issue rather than your build? Now that's rather odd. You'd think given Windows's prevalence that folks would be discussing it already, but maybe very few have two USB miners plugged into the same computer. Fortunately, I've been able to plug one into the laptop at home and one into the laptop at work, so I'm covered. Edited to add: Still, each hardware device is reporting roughly half speed to the pool, even from separate computers. Sorry for the confusion! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 18, 2013, 11:11:42 PM I'm getting half the hashrate issue with cgminer 3.3.1 on Windows (downloaded from the official place earlier this evening). Maybe it's just a cgminer issue rather than your build? Just so I understand, are you seeing half the hashrate reported by your pool, but full speed reported by your miner? And what mining hardware are you using if you don't mind the question? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: HellDiverUK on July 19, 2013, 06:57:55 AM I'm getting half the hashrate issue with cgminer 3.3.1 on Windows (downloaded from the official place earlier this evening). Maybe it's just a cgminer issue rather than your build? Just so I understand, are you seeing half the hashrate reported by your pool, but full speed reported by your miner? And what mining hardware are you using if you don't mind the question? Correct. Hardware is: AMD FX8320@4.2GHz, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM, Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX, Windows 7 x64. Erupter is plugged in to a USB3 port, which on this board runs off an ASMedia chip. Mining all night on BTCGuild sees 91MH/s, cgminer reports 333MH/s. ??? I've not had a chance to fire up my Hackintosh to try Asteroid. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: HellDiverUK on July 19, 2013, 07:59:38 AM OK, plugged the miner in to a USB2 port before I left for work this morning. BTCGuild is now reporting 233MH/s, so it looks like the miner is working better in a USB2 port.
Must be a USB driver issue... ??? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on July 19, 2013, 08:55:20 AM OK, plugged the miner in to a USB2 port before I left for work this morning. BTCGuild is now reporting 233MH/s, so it looks like the miner is working better in a USB2 port. Yeah, I agree, although it's proving difficult to pinpoint how/why the number of shares produced is lower, especially when the local hashrates are just fine. I've got a few more ideas I'm following up on.Must be a USB driver issue... ??? I could be away for up to four days this weekend, but development will resume asap. :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: HellDiverUK on July 19, 2013, 10:48:55 AM I'm going to have a go at running the "slow" miner through a local stratum proxy, too - see if that helps?
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 19, 2013, 03:43:04 PM OK, plugged the miner in to a USB2 port before I left for work this morning. BTCGuild is now reporting 233MH/s, so it looks like the miner is working better in a USB2 port. Yeah, I agree, although it's proving difficult to pinpoint how/why the number of shares produced is lower, especially when the local hashrates are just fine. I've got a few more ideas I'm following up on.Must be a USB driver issue... ??? I could be away for up to four days this weekend, but development will resume asap. :) This may or may not help the search for answers, but here's a further observation. My "slow" USB device is running off of a powered hub (USB 2.0) hooked into a MacBook Pro (mid-2009 15" 2.8 GHz). My other USB device is running off of a MacBook Pro (early 2013, 13"), no hub, and seems to be reporting the correct hash rates to the pool. I'm going to plug the "slow" one directly into the mid-2009 MacBook Pro and see if it's any different. I'll report back what I find. Enjoy the time away! 8) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 19, 2013, 03:59:29 PM Well, this didn't take long. Plugging the "slow" device directly into the USB port on the laptop had no effect on the speed reported to the pool.
I guess the next step is to swap the two devices to see if one of them is defective in some fashion... ??? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: dogcowdave on July 25, 2013, 07:26:55 PM I've seen a similar problem. I only have 1 usb asic, when running under asteroid or cgminer on osx the pool gets only about 1/2 speed, but if I take the same asic & run it on my PC I get full speed out of it. Looks to me the problem is with cgminer and number of asics doesn't matter. I will be trying bfgminer on osx this evening if time allows.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: DeviledMoon on July 25, 2013, 08:06:52 PM I've seen a similar problem. I only have 1 usb asic, when running under asteroid or cgminer on osx the pool gets only about 1/2 speed, but if I take the same asic & run it on my PC I get full speed out of it. Looks to me the problem is with cgminer and number of asics doesn't matter. I will be trying bfgminer on osx this evening if time allows. ive been finding bfgminer has better performance on mac aswell Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on July 30, 2013, 12:21:36 AM It appears the BFGMiner definitely has better performance in terms of what it's reporting to the pools, but it's still a bit slow.
Within the miner I'll get 660-680 MH/s, but only about 580-600 are getting reported by the pool. This is observed using MacMiner 1.3.17 (which may not be the latest build or official release version). In MacMiner, the FPGA/ASIC miner works great except that every once in a while it'll just stop. I can set up a notification for idle workers but it always happens when I'm at work and can't take the hour round trip to restart the buggers. :P Hopefully the BFGMiner will run with greater stability, even if I'm losing several dozen hashes/second. Better that than huge swaths of downtime. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Anonymailer on July 30, 2013, 12:47:36 AM It appears the BFGMiner definitely has better performance in terms of what it's reporting to the pools, but it's still a bit slow. Hey, interesting to hear about the different hashing rates, is this with ASICs or GPU mining, and what rates were you seeing with cgminer? Within the miner I'll get 660-680 MH/s, but only about 580-600 are getting reported by the pool. This is observed using MacMiner 1.3.17 (which may not be the latest build or official release version). In MacMiner, the FPGA/ASIC miner works great except that every once in a while it'll just stop. I can set up a notification for idle workers but it always happens when I'm at work and can't take the hour round trip to restart the buggers. :P Hopefully the BFGMiner will run with greater stability, even if I'm losing several dozen hashes/second. Better that than huge swaths of downtime. The 1.4.6 beta version of MacMiner updates bfgminer to a version slightly newer than the 3.1.3 release (as a few bugs were fixed afterwards) and BFG Miner and FPGA/ASIC Miner should automatically restart if it stops unexpectedly. Please give that a shot and let me know how it goes for you! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: th3asias on August 01, 2013, 11:44:48 AM Am interesting in testing. i have 2 ATi 7950 working in a Mac Pro..
Thanks. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: wlwesq on August 02, 2013, 08:29:41 PM It appears the BFGMiner definitely has better performance in terms of what it's reporting to the pools, but it's still a bit slow. Hey, interesting to hear about the different hashing rates, is this with ASICs or GPU mining, and what rates were you seeing with cgminer? Within the miner I'll get 660-680 MH/s, but only about 580-600 are getting reported by the pool. This is observed using MacMiner 1.3.17 (which may not be the latest build or official release version). In MacMiner, the FPGA/ASIC miner works great except that every once in a while it'll just stop. I can set up a notification for idle workers but it always happens when I'm at work and can't take the hour round trip to restart the buggers. :P Hopefully the BFGMiner will run with greater stability, even if I'm losing several dozen hashes/second. Better that than huge swaths of downtime. The 1.4.6 beta version of MacMiner updates bfgminer to a version slightly newer than the 3.1.3 release (as a few bugs were fixed afterwards) and BFG Miner and FPGA/ASIC Miner should automatically restart if it stops unexpectedly. Please give that a shot and let me know how it goes for you! Will do. The different hashing rates is with ASICs. CGMiner was producing hash rates around 330 Mh/s per ASIC, but the pool was reporting rates about 60% of that figure. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: gr33k on August 06, 2013, 06:50:14 AM I'd like to beta test if spots are still open :)
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: purelithium on August 13, 2013, 11:05:50 PM I have a ModMiner Quad device that I'd test the software on. Let me know how to get the software if you want me to test it.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: mumuchwal on August 18, 2013, 02:21:55 PM Sent a PM, very interested to beta test and dig into the software's functionnality to eventualy make it crash then bug report.
Please get back to me :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client -- now in public beta! Post by: Karin on August 19, 2013, 08:53:00 PM Asteroid is now in public beta!
Thank you to all the private beta testers who helped get Asteroid to where it is now! I'm constantly blown away by all the emails and texts I get from people interested and offering to help. You can download the latest version here (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php). Biggest new feature is MobileMiner (http://www.mobileminerapp.com/) support! Now you can monitor Asteroid and all your devices from your iOS or Android-based smartphone. Here's a screenshot of MobileMiner showing stats from Asteroid: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/mobileminer_example.png Automatic software updates will keep you up to date with Asteroid automatically. Also, use the in-app "Send Feedback" command to send me any bugs, comments, and/or suggestions, as that will also automatically include the relevant debugging log files I need to solve any problems. There are a few major known bugs with this current release: 1) Some USB-based devices are generating about 60% of the work they should be, despite showing a normal hashrate in Asteroid. This is the biggest development priority right now, and with help from the cgminer devs I've tracked the error down to an included library that I'm currently putting through the wringer. Asteroid will alert you after hashing for 30 minutes if it detects you are subject to this bug, with a few questions to help me narrow down the problem. You may also check your pool's stats page to see if they're seeing the same hashrate as Asteroid tells you, or if it is low and therefore subject to this bug. 1) UI bug when plugging in new USB-based devices. Workaround: Plug in device before starting Asteroid, or ignore the problem for now 2) UI bug with multiple identical mining devices Workaround: none, but rest assured that Asteroid is still mining with them (see the in-app miner console for details) I've also updated the first post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214268.0) with more screenshots. Title: Re: Asteroid -- public beta out now! - a new Mac mining client Post by: HellDiverUK on August 20, 2013, 10:00:23 AM I intended helping with the beta, but I never got my Hackintosh working properly. ::)
But, good news is I just ordered a MacBook Pro, which should be here tomorrow. I'll certainly be trying out Asteroid with some Block Erupters as soon as I can. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on August 23, 2013, 04:53:17 AM Version 0.9.3 now out -- download (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php)
Should fix the problem with USB-based miners not generating all the work they should be due to flaky libusb libraries interacting with cgminer on Mac OS. I've actually had to downgrade the version included with Asteroid, but it seems to work well. You can expect ~40% more credit from pools and more consistent hashrates. Although please let me know how it goes :) Still some known issues, the biggest of which are a couple of UI issues surrounding multiple identical devices (even though Asteroid says it's not working, it really is -- check the miner console), and adding a device while Asteroid is running. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on August 23, 2013, 04:11:37 PM Version 0.9.3 now out -- download (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php) Gives a error when starting, the old GPU error, but then starts mining with the GPU of my MacBook. Thanks for the update.Should fix the problem with USB-based miners not generating all the work they should be due to flaky libusb libraries interacting with cgminer on Mac OS. I've actually had to downgrade the version included with Asteroid, but it seems to work well. You can expect ~40% more credit from pools and more consistent hashrates. Although please let me know how it goes :) Still some known issues, the biggest of which are a couple of UI issues surrounding multiple identical devices (even though Asteroid says it's not working, it really is -- check the miner console), and adding a device while Asteroid is running. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on August 23, 2013, 04:44:25 PM Gives a error when starting, the old GPU error, but then starts mining with the GPU of my MacBook. Thanks for the update. Excellent, that's expected behaviour. Asteroid detects it's getting an error -54 from the mining engine, alerts you, and then restarts the engine with a set of modified settings that works. I *should* save that setting between launches, but it doesn't yet. I'll put that into the next update, and thanks for the feedback! :)Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: purelithium on August 25, 2013, 06:27:12 PM What does it mean if the hashrate bar is yellow? Also, there is a weird UI bug that causes the address balance to overlap with the mining info in the lower right corner.
Like this: https://i.imgur.com/tlDHqmS.png Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on August 25, 2013, 09:48:04 PM The hashrate bar indicates your current hashrate relative to the maximum since you last launched Asteroid. If it dips too far below that max the bar turns yellow, and further still it turns red. It's supposed to indicate visually if there's perhaps a problem with one of your miners (imagine 10+ block erupters connected and one goes down, pushing the main hashrate bar into yellow since that one erupter isn't contributing anymore -- you would notice it quickly).
Sometimes, for reasons I'm not yet sure, the hashrate on USB Block Erupters goes up to 350+MH/s for a few moments. So when the hashrate returns to normal (as you're seeing), the bar turns yellow since it's now below its maximum. I'm keeping a close eye on USB drivers and block erupter performance, so if/when I find a more compatible arrangement I'll implement it asap. :) I just noticed that overlapping address balance issue myself, thanks for mentioning it! I'll fix it in the next release. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: purelithium on August 25, 2013, 10:58:52 PM Thanks! Interesting software, I really like it.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: nwoolls on August 26, 2013, 01:56:48 AM The hashrate bar indicates your current hashrate relative to the maximum since you last launched Asteroid. If it dips too far below that max the bar turns yellow, and further still it turns red. It's supposed to indicate visually if there's perhaps a problem with one of your miners (imagine 10+ block erupters connected and one goes down, pushing the main hashrate bar into yellow since that one erupter isn't contributing anymore -- you would notice it quickly). Slick idea! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on August 26, 2013, 11:08:07 AM How can I enter Mac OS X cgminer's "screen mode --> screen -r" as I do with Linux (in my RPI)?
Also, with 2 USB Block Erupters, It keeps mining with supposedly only one USB Block Erupter, with "335.6MH/s" @ Asteroid green display. The AMU-2 keeps giving 0, @ the Devices/AMU-2 display. I swapped them... same.... AMU-1 - 0. But Miner Console gives me correct information: 667 MH/s and both AMU's accepting shares. Sent Asteroid feedback. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on August 26, 2013, 02:17:19 PM How can I enter Mac OS X cgminer's "screen mode --> screen -r" as I do with Linux (in my RPI)? I'm afraid I don't understand the question. If it helps, you can add command-line options via the "Mode" menu. If you want to add parameters before cgminer gets executed that might be a bit more tricky, but certainly not impossible. What did you have planned, exactly? Also, with 2 USB Block Erupters, It keeps mining with supposedly only one USB Block Erupter, with "335.6MH/s" @ Asteroid green display. The AMU-2 keeps giving 0, @ the Devices/AMU-2 display. I swapped them... same.... AMU-1 - 0. But Miner Console gives me correct information: 667 MH/s and both AMU's accepting shares. Yeah, this is a known issue (http://www.asteroidapp.com/forums/discussion/15/known-issues-with-0-9-3#Item_2) with multiple identically-named devices at the moment. I've rewritten the code and this bug is still being a bit elusive, but I'm still working on it. You're entirely correct though, the you are getting the correct full hashrate (as you can see in the miner console), and it's simply a display bug. Sent Asteroid feedback. Very awesome, thanks! With the logs I get from people it's easy to see what's working or not. Even when things are running smoothly, I still like seeing other people's setups, if Asteroid is doing what it should, etc. So thanks again :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: ct1aic on August 26, 2013, 02:54:53 PM How can I enter Mac OS X cgminer's "screen mode --> screen -r" as I do with Linux (in my RPI)? I'm afraid I don't understand the question. If it helps, you can add command-line options via the "Mode" menu. If you want to add parameters before cgminer gets executed that might be a bit more tricky, but certainly not impossible. What did you have planned, exactly? Hi and thanks for your kind answers, Karin. I would like to get access to this cgminer console: http://ct1aic.dyndns.info/MinePeon_CST.png Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: purelithium on August 26, 2013, 10:44:17 PM https://i.imgur.com/Mkre8P2.png
So I see this weird UI bug. I tried clicking the little blue triangle while the miner was initializing, waiting for the info to pop up, then I see it just overlaps with the big hashrate bar, creating the lovely composition above. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on August 26, 2013, 11:59:18 PM I would like to get access to this cgminer console: Aha, I see now! There is a way to do this when the miner is launched, but it's not as easy to get access to that console on-demand. I'll add the option to show it at launch in an upcoming version. I know of a way to show the full text console on demand, but it's a bit more difficult to implement. Fortunately, I have to add some of that functionality as part of sandboxing in order to get Asteroid into the Mac App Store, so it will likely be implemented eventually! So I see this weird UI bug. I tried clicking the little blue triangle while the miner was initializing, waiting for the info to pop up, then I see it just overlaps with the big hashrate bar, creating the lovely composition above. Yes, that's the other big known issue (http://www.asteroidapp.com/forums/discussion/15/known-issues-with-0-9-3#Item_2) at the moment. Fortunately they're just UI-related, but I know it's annoying, I see it myself :) The best way to avoid it while waiting for the next version of Asteroid is to wait for the status line to say "Mining" before hitting the twistie for the device list. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: HellDiverUK on August 29, 2013, 09:16:05 AM Just posting to say I've tried Asteroid on my new Macbook Pro, and I'm seeing the same issue with reporting of only a single Erupter. I am still beta testing, I just haven't got much to say that hasn't been said already. :)
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: thefunkybits on September 02, 2013, 06:38:32 AM Please add support for other alt coins! Possibly even a more open source format that would make it easy to point to different alt coin pools no matter how new they came on the scene
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on September 02, 2013, 02:59:41 PM Please add support for other alt coins! Possibly even a more open source format that would make it easy to point to different alt coin pools no matter how new they came on the scene Good idea, I'll put this into the next version. Should just be a few UI changes. Asteroid technically can mine to altcoins right now if you want, by choosing the bitcoin type for alt coins that use SHA-256 and litecoin for alt coins that use scrypt, but I'll make this easier to distinguish in the next version, and thanks very much for your feedback thefunkybits! :DTitle: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: tk1337 on September 02, 2013, 03:51:17 PM asteroidapp.com isn't resolving, but would love to try out the miner, looks pretty slick for OSX.
Do you have a mirror I could download from? (I own several domains, I could easily host a mirror if you would like, message me.) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: XFox on September 02, 2013, 03:57:08 PM asteroidapp.com isn't resolving, but would love to try out the miner, looks pretty slick for OSX. Worksforme. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: tk1337 on September 02, 2013, 04:26:46 PM asteroidapp.com isn't resolving, but would love to try out the miner, looks pretty slick for OSX. Worksforme. It finally loaded, but looks like there are some issues, either with the hosting provider (dream host) or random outage. Code: Warning: mysqli_connect() [function.mysqli-connect]: (HY000/2013): Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading authorization packet', system error: 0 in /home/asteroidapp/asteroidapp.com/index.php on line 111 Edit: Finally was able to download it, no more mySQL errors showing, so it looks like the server got a restart finally. Like I said, if you would like a mirror location, let me know, I'll be happy to host it. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: tk1337 on September 02, 2013, 04:59:49 PM Also, sent in a report...
The UI doesn't seem to be communicating with cgMiner's API, the miner is running yet the UI thinks it's failing to connect, when it's not. I would attempt to debug it myself, however I shouldn't even be on the forums atm, I've got code due tomorrow for work, lol. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: tk1337 on September 03, 2013, 06:32:16 AM Also, sent in a report... The UI doesn't seem to be communicating with cgMiner's API, the miner is running yet the UI thinks it's failing to connect, when it's not. I would attempt to debug it myself, however I shouldn't even be on the forums atm, I've got code due tomorrow for work, lol. Finally had a moment to try the miner again, found the issue to be a conflicting cgminer.conf file, after removing it, miner is looking good. So, to people that have been using cgMiner, MacMiner, or the bundled cgMiner for Mac script and you're having issues, then try removing (or just moving as I did) your cgminer.conf file located in /Users/[Username]/.cgminer/cgminer.conf Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: HorusFTW on September 03, 2013, 05:10:17 PM Has anyone had any success in getting Asteroid to mine FTC? It seems to connect but its hashing is slow and fluctuates drastically. No shares accepted to this point.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: zpply on September 18, 2013, 09:10:51 PM Anyone have this working with ppcoin?
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: crazy_rabbit on September 25, 2013, 05:01:56 PM I seem to have gotten Asteroid working with some caveats: The Miner Console gives me output that it's working, but the GUI itself seems screwed up. Too many problems to list. However, the pool does show that's mining, so if you can overlook the fact that the GUI is just totally broken, it does seem to mine.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on September 27, 2013, 01:54:21 AM I seem to have gotten Asteroid working with some caveats: The Miner Console gives me output that it's working, but the GUI itself seems screwed up. Too many problems to list. However, the pool does show that's mining, so if you can overlook the fact that the GUI is just totally broken, it does seem to mine. I wouldn't say it's totally broken, but there are a few known issues. :) To bypass the UI display bug, wait until the miner has started mining before clicking on the triangle to show all your devices. Users have been active in submitting feedback and I'm hoping to be able to tackle more of them soon! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: gweedo on October 10, 2013, 10:21:31 PM Can i use this to mine on the testnet using my bitcoind? Didn't see a way to do that.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: DiCE1904 on October 26, 2013, 07:42:52 AM Send in my feedback so you could see what I'm working with. I have a Little single and 10 Erupters but only one erupter mines out of all of them.
Very excited to see the progress you have made with this program. Keep it up! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: iLoveXojo on October 28, 2013, 06:19:01 AM I'm having a problem: I cannot get mining started on my iMac 8,1. I'm mining Litecoins and whenever I start the miner, I get this error message:
"No devices enabled, waiting...". I have tried to do this with CPU and GPU mining. Any ideas? Thanks. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on October 28, 2013, 10:19:31 PM I'm having a problem: I cannot get mining started on my iMac 8,1. I'm mining Litecoins and whenever I start the miner, I get this error message: My guess is that perhaps your early 2008 iMac doesn't have a graphics card compatible with Apple's implementation of OpenCL, which is necessary for using GPUs for cyptocoin mining on a Mac. You could explore CPU mining for litecoin, in which case I believe you would want to look at a product called "cpuminer". Asteroid is a front-end interface to cgminer, and cgminer no longer has CPU mining enabled as a feature any more, for various reasons (slow, used by botnets, etc)."No devices enabled, waiting...". I have tried to do this with CPU and GPU mining. Any ideas? Thanks. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: iLoveXojo on October 29, 2013, 12:33:33 AM I'm having a problem: I cannot get mining started on my iMac 8,1. I'm mining Litecoins and whenever I start the miner, I get this error message: My guess is that perhaps your early 2008 iMac doesn't have a graphics card compatible with Apple's implementation of OpenCL, which is necessary for using GPUs for cyptocoin mining on a Mac. You could explore CPU mining for litecoin, in which case I believe you would want to look at a product called "cpuminer". Asteroid is a front-end interface to cgminer, and cgminer no longer has CPU mining enabled as a feature any more, for various reasons (slow, used by botnets, etc)."No devices enabled, waiting...". I have tried to do this with CPU and GPU mining. Any ideas? Thanks. Ah, thanks! What is your experience with the Iris graphics? Iris (and Iris Pro) is being used in Apple's latest models which run Haswell. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on October 29, 2013, 02:46:50 AM Ah, thanks! What is your experience with the Iris graphics? Iris (and Iris Pro) is being used in Apple's latest models which run Haswell. The Intel Iris Pro is an integrated graphics chipset. But surprisingly, and for the first time ever on Macs, the Intel Iris Pro graphics can be used with Asteroid for GPU-based mining thanks to the new Mavericks 10.9 which added OpenCL support for those chipsets. As far as I know, all previous versions of Intel Integrated Graphics would not work.As for general purpose usage, I think it's a great day-to-day graphics setup. Mavericks dynamically adjusts the amount of shared VRAM it uses with the rest of the operating system, so it's very memory efficient. And gaming speeds are on par with what the dedicated graphics chipset was in the previous Mac models. An Asteroid user reported around 35MH/s when mining Bitcoin. Litecoin hashing speeds weren't very high either. Your best bet mining Bitcoin these days is from USB-based ASIC mining devices though, but as a Mac user and tech fan, I'm generally pleased with the Intel Iris Pro for the normal user! (I like gaming, so I still buy machines with dedicated graphics cards whenever I can for that extra boost) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: huryde on October 29, 2013, 05:11:04 AM I have been using Asteroid to mine with my GPU and MacMiner to mine on a separate pool with my Block Eruptors at GHash.io in conjunction with my cloud mining at cex.io (https://cex.io/r/0/huryde/0/). Asteroid has been great, even with Maverick. It does pop up a warning about my Block Eruptor drivers.
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: iLoveXojo on October 29, 2013, 05:14:32 AM Ah, thanks! What is your experience with the Iris graphics? Iris (and Iris Pro) is being used in Apple's latest models which run Haswell. The Intel Iris Pro is an integrated graphics chipset. But surprisingly, and for the first time ever on Macs, the Intel Iris Pro graphics can be used with Asteroid for GPU-based mining thanks to the new Mavericks 10.9 which added OpenCL support for those chipsets. As far as I know, all previous versions of Intel Integrated Graphics would not work.As for general purpose usage, I think it's a great day-to-day graphics setup. Mavericks dynamically adjusts the amount of shared VRAM it uses with the rest of the operating system, so it's very memory efficient. And gaming speeds are on par with what the dedicated graphics chipset was in the previous Mac models. An Asteroid user reported around 35MH/s when mining Bitcoin. Litecoin hashing speeds weren't very high either. Your best bet mining Bitcoin these days is from USB-based ASIC mining devices though, but as a Mac user and tech fan, I'm generally pleased with the Intel Iris Pro for the normal user! (I like gaming, so I still buy machines with dedicated graphics cards whenever I can for that extra boost) Either that or purchase a graphics card and connect it via Thunderbolt 2 ;) Thunderbolt is the best thing to happen to the Mac. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on October 29, 2013, 05:06:13 PM Ah, thanks! What is your experience with the Iris graphics? Iris (and Iris Pro) is being used in Apple's latest models which run Haswell. The Intel Iris Pro is an integrated graphics chipset. But surprisingly, and for the first time ever on Macs, the Intel Iris Pro graphics can be used with Asteroid for GPU-based mining thanks to the new Mavericks 10.9 which added OpenCL support for those chipsets. As far as I know, all previous versions of Intel Integrated Graphics would not work.As for general purpose usage, I think it's a great day-to-day graphics setup. Mavericks dynamically adjusts the amount of shared VRAM it uses with the rest of the operating system, so it's very memory efficient. And gaming speeds are on par with what the dedicated graphics chipset was in the previous Mac models. An Asteroid user reported around 35MH/s when mining Bitcoin. Litecoin hashing speeds weren't very high either. Your best bet mining Bitcoin these days is from USB-based ASIC mining devices though, but as a Mac user and tech fan, I'm generally pleased with the Intel Iris Pro for the normal user! (I like gaming, so I still buy machines with dedicated graphics cards whenever I can for that extra boost) Either that or purchase a graphics card and connect it via Thunderbolt 2 ;) Thunderbolt is the best thing to happen to the Mac. From what I hear though, Intel is pretty negative on certifying devices that would allow for consumer-grade eGPU technology, but there are some DIY methods that may be worth exploring...(but it could be so much simpler!) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: forbun on November 02, 2013, 08:56:38 AM I have a MacBook Pro and I'd like to try this.
However, I saw from cgminer the following warning: Quote Q: Can I mine with cgminer on a MAC? A: cgminer will compile on OSX, but the performance of GPU mining is compromised due to the opencl implementation on OSX, there is no temperature or fanspeed monitoring, and the cooling design of most MACs, despite having powerful GPUs, will usually not cope with constant usage leading to a high risk of thermal damage. It is highly recommended not to mine on a MAC unless it is to a USB device. http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/ Does this problem apply to Asteroid? If not, why not? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: huryde on November 05, 2013, 06:04:44 AM How can I trash all preference and get a fresh install?
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: XFox on November 05, 2013, 12:45:15 PM How can I trash all preference and get a fresh install? Launch Asteroid while pressing the Option key. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: forzendiablo on November 10, 2013, 02:18:20 AM i ttied it on my latest iMAC and on mac mini with maverick osx - on both it never starts mining, it says 'starting' but nothing happends.
any ideas? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Robert Lewandowski on November 10, 2013, 02:24:03 AM Wouldn't you basically break even on solo mining litecoins?
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on November 26, 2013, 06:26:13 AM i ttied it on my latest iMAC and on mac mini with maverick osx - on both it never starts mining, it says 'starting' but nothing happends. The version you used had a bug that prevented Asteroid from updating its display if certain types of USB-based ASICs were connected. This is now fixed in the latest version, 0.9.4, which you can upgrade to by running Asteroid and going to "Check for updates..." in the Asteroid menu (or by downloading from the first post in this thread).any ideas? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on November 26, 2013, 06:28:42 AM I have a MacBook Pro and I'd like to try this. Sorry for not replying sooner! Yes, this problem applies to Asteroid if you are using it to mine with your computer's graphics card. If however, you are using USB-based mining devices and not your internal graphics card, there are no heating risks to your Mac at all.However, I saw from cgminer the following warning: Quote Q: Can I mine with cgminer on a MAC? A: cgminer will compile on OSX, but the performance of GPU mining is compromised due to the opencl implementation on OSX, there is no temperature or fanspeed monitoring, and the cooling design of most MACs, despite having powerful GPUs, will usually not cope with constant usage leading to a high risk of thermal damage. It is highly recommended not to mine on a MAC unless it is to a USB device. http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/ Does this problem apply to Asteroid? If not, why not? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on November 26, 2013, 06:36:38 AM Asteroid 0.9.4 is now out
Download here (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php) or run "Check for updates..." from the in-app Asteroid menu This is a maintenance and bug fix release. There are still some known issues (namely UI quirkiness), but the main improvements are as follows:
As you may or may not know, the latest versions of the underlying mining engine used by Asteroid, "cgminer", is no longer supporting GPU mining. Asteroid 1.0 will likely follow suit, but I plan to maintain a GPU-capable version of Asteroid for as long as possible. Biggest requests I hear are for 10.6 and 10.7 compatibility, which are now next on my list of development priorities. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client Post by: Karin on December 02, 2013, 04:59:48 PM Asteroid 0.9.5 is now out
Download here (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php) or run "Check for updates..." from the in-app Asteroid menu This is also a bug fix release that should take care of a lot of the rare cases people had where Asteroid wasn't updating. There are still some known UI issues (particularly for multiple identical devices) but rest assured they are indeed mining (click the "i" to see). Change log is as follows:
Please remember that Asteroid does not need any extra drivers or installs of any kind, unlike other miners! True plug-and-play. :D Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: purelithium on December 03, 2013, 01:43:46 AM Asteroid still only displays the hashrate of 1 of my 3 erupters in the UI, but the "Miner Console" lists the proper hashrate. They show up as "AMU-1, AMU-2, AMU-3" instead of "ASICMINER USB Block Erupter" as the image on the website indicates it should be... What's going on?
Also, none of my settings were saved when I upgraded from 0.9.4. Very frustrating. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 03, 2013, 04:07:31 AM Asteroid still only displays the hashrate of 1 of my 3 erupters in the UI, but the "Miner Console" lists the proper hashrate. They show up as "AMU-1, AMU-2, AMU-3" instead of "ASICMINER USB Block Erupter" as the image on the website indicates it should be... What's going on? Ah yes, this bug has been a fickle one. 0.9.5 was mainly a bugfix and compatibility release. Fortunately it seems as though very few people have any operational/functional problems with it now, so I can refocus now on UI quirks such as this one. It only affects multiple identical devices (and is tough for me to test as I have some devices but none identical). Even though I've coded Asteroid to recognize them with a unique ID, there's something in the code that isn't referring to the unique IDs that are internally assigned when it goes to draw the UI. As you note, they do mine fine regardless, as the console shows. I hope to squish this one soon, as it's been there a while and will only keep being an issue :) Also, none of my settings were saved when I upgraded from 0.9.4. Very frustrating. Yes, my apologies for that. However, it should be easy to re-enter pool information if you use one of the default pools as your login information will be pre-populated from previous keychain entries regardless of Asteroid version. Actually you just gave me an idea, perhaps I can allow custom pools to be saved in a similar manner... Anyway, Asteroid does include code to migrate preferences from version to version, but the format changed slightly between the two most recent versions and I think there's likely a bug or two in there too. I'll have a look for 0.9.6, and thanks for the feedback :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 03, 2013, 11:48:04 PM If you mine Litecoin / scrypt (regardless of what miner frontend you use), the Asteroid website now has a list of all the best settings that Asteroid users have come up with for thread-concurrency and worksize, the two most significant variables when mining scrypt:
Asteroid's litecoin / scrypt settings database page (http://www.asteroidapp.com/litecoindb.php) The page shows the hashrates and popularity of each GPU, along with the settings used to get those speeds. It's geared towards Mac users, but the hardware is similar regardless of platform. This list is updated live, and is also the same database from which Asteroid makes recommendations to users. Meaning, if you use settings in Asteroid that are faster than everyone else's for the same hardware, Asteroid will upload your settings (with your permission), updating this webpage, and show alerts in Asteroid the next time any other user with that same card launches and faster settings are available on the server. All within a couple minutes. Even if you don't choose to upload your settings, you will still get recommendations on the best settings to use, even the first time you launch the app. So get out there and get hashing! :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: purelithium on December 04, 2013, 09:27:29 PM Yes, my apologies for that. However, it should be easy to re-enter pool information if you use one of the default pools as your login information will be pre-populated from previous keychain entries regardless of Asteroid version. Actually you just gave me an idea, perhaps I can allow custom pools to be saved in a similar manner... Anyway, Asteroid does include code to migrate preferences from version to version, but the format changed slightly between the two most recent versions and I think there's likely a bug or two in there too. I'll have a look for 0.9.6, and thanks for the feedback :) Pool settings aren't as annoying as having to re-enter my MobileMiner API key. Pool settings are generally easy to remember, but an API key requires me to find it and enter it in manually. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 04, 2013, 11:09:52 PM Pool settings aren't as annoying as having to re-enter my MobileMiner API key. Pool settings are generally easy to remember, but an API key requires me to find it and enter it in manually. The API key is arguably an authentication token that I could easily store in the Keychain too, thus making it independent from any preference file format changes. I'll add it to the list for the next version :)Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: sboc on December 06, 2013, 09:19:25 PM 1) When mining LTC I think the speed on the mining speed incorrectly shows MH/S instead of kH/s.
2) The preferences screen is still blank after entering the Bitcoin address. 3) Once the miner is stopped I cannot start it again. I have to qui the program and launch it again. 4) When mining Litecoins there's an issue with the notification message in the dock. Think it says mis....lue or something like that. Keep it going. It really has potential. Edit: I am not too sure about 1) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 11, 2013, 01:11:12 AM 1) When mining LTC I think the speed on the mining speed incorrectly shows MH/S instead of kH/s. I haven't heard of this bug, since it's strictly a numerical algorithm that gets applied to all hashrates regardless of coin type. It *might* be that you had selected a Bitcoin pool perhaps by mistake? I could be wrong though, please let me know if you've confirmed it and/or can repeat it.Edit: I am not too sure about 1) 2) The preferences screen is still blank after entering the Bitcoin address. Are you using the latest version of Asteroid? I added a fix for that bug but it may not have caught it. I'm guessing the API reply from blockchain.info is giving it a hard time. I'll add some error-checking at the same time as I implement this same functionality for Litecoin addresses (in the upcoming version of Asteroid).3) Once the miner is stopped I cannot start it again. I have to qui the program and launch it again. Thanks, I'll investigate. If/when you can send in a feedback report (go under the "Asteroid" menu and go to "Send Feedback") with a line or two about what is happening, I'll have the relevant log files as well that Asteroid generates that may help me more quickly troubleshoot your specific setup (and implement a fix for everyone if possible).4) When mining Litecoins there's an issue with the notification message in the dock. Think it says mis....lue or something like that. Yes, this bug has been reported, and thanks for doing so as well. It's actually trying to say "missing value", which is an error that is coming from the litecoin hashrates not being parsed properly. It's on my list for fixing in the next version.Keep it going. It really has potential. Thanks! :DTitle: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: sboc on December 14, 2013, 07:54:57 PM 1) When mining LTC I think the speed on the mining speed incorrectly shows MH/S instead of kH/s. I haven't heard of this bug, since it's strictly a numerical algorithm that gets applied to all hashrates regardless of coin type. It *might* be that you had selected a Bitcoin pool perhaps by mistake? I could be wrong though, please let me know if you've confirmed it and/or can repeat it.Edit: I am not too sure about 1) I have verified this and it does in fact show incorrectly. I did select a Litecoin pool. I think it might be caused by the fact that my region is set to Denmark - Danish which causes the miner output to display for example 2.345 kH/s instead of 2,345 kH/s. The first option will by English systems be parsed as 2345 which is in fact 2(point)345 MH/s. And I am using 0.9.5 which I assume being the latest so I guess something does still screw up the preferences after entering the Bitcoin address :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 15, 2013, 03:54:47 AM I have verified this and it does in fact show incorrectly. I did select a Litecoin pool. I think it might be caused by the fact that my region is set to Denmark - Danish which causes the miner output to display for example 2.345 kH/s instead of 2,345 kH/s. The first option will by English systems be parsed as 2345 which is in fact 2(point)345 MH/s. Curious, I had another Danish user mention this just tonight too on the official forums (http://www.asteroidapp.com/forums/). I think that narrows down the problem (international formats). Thanks sboc!And I am using 0.9.5 which I assume being the latest so I guess something does still screw up the preferences after entering the Bitcoin address :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 17, 2013, 03:55:46 PM 0.9.6 is planned for sometime before Christmas, and should include a lot of bug fixes and tweaks for bitcoin and litecoin users (MobileMiner, improved settings sharing, etc). Thanks for all the feedback reports being submitted!
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 17, 2013, 04:24:48 PM Got some good coverage on ZDnet this morning!
Bitcoin and Litecoin mining with Asteroid for Mac (http://www.zdnet.com/bitcoin-and-litecoin-mining-with-asteroid-for-mac-7000024296/) And an article I consulted on for cryptocoins was posted by the same author this weekend: A crypto-currency primer: Bitcoin vs. Litecoin (http://www.zdnet.com/a-crypto-currency-primer-bitcoin-vs-litecoin-7000024301/) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: nwoolls on December 17, 2013, 06:01:13 PM Got some good coverage on ZDnet this morning! Bitcoin and Litecoin mining with Asteroid for Mac (http://www.zdnet.com/bitcoin-and-litecoin-mining-with-asteroid-for-mac-7000024296/) And an article I consulted on for cryptocoins was posted by the same author this weekend: A crypto-currency primer: Bitcoin vs. Litecoin (http://www.zdnet.com/a-crypto-currency-primer-bitcoin-vs-litecoin-7000024301/) Congratulations! ;D Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: perezoso on December 28, 2013, 04:15:45 PM Apologies if this is the wrong place - I didn't see a separate CGMiner for Mac thread.
Is anyone else considering using CGMiner for Mac with (finally shipping?) Hashfast hardware? CGMiner for Mac seems to be immediately updated with other CGMiner releases (thanks!) and, I assume, includes CGMiner mods for HF. Correct? I assume that Asteroid, as it relies on an older CGMiner build, will not work with HF hardware. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on December 29, 2013, 12:03:37 AM CGMiner for Mac seems to be immediately updated with other CGMiner releases (thanks!) and, I assume, includes CGMiner mods for HF. Correct? Correct!I assume that Asteroid, as it relies on an older CGMiner build, will not work with HF hardware. Correct at the moment, but my internal builds of Asteroid support a variety of different miners, including old and new versions of cgminer. Once it is released, it will be on the same update schedule as my cgminer for Mac OS X builds. But at the moment, yes, you are correct :)Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: perezoso on December 29, 2013, 05:39:35 AM CGMiner for Mac seems to be immediately updated with other CGMiner releases (thanks!) and, I assume, includes CGMiner mods for HF. Correct? Correct!I assume that Asteroid, as it relies on an older CGMiner build, will not work with HF hardware. Correct at the moment, but my internal builds of Asteroid support a variety of different miners, including old and new versions of cgminer. Once it is released, it will be on the same update schedule as my cgminer for Mac OS X builds. But at the moment, yes, you are correct :)Excellent. Thank you. Once I get some hardware (assuming they ship some hardware), I'll try it out and let you know how it goes. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: wontonforevuh on December 29, 2013, 06:52:12 PM I get an incorrect worker username/password error.
Am I supposed to put in my account.workername in the Worker username field? or just the workername? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: danosphere on January 11, 2014, 04:33:47 PM Anyone concerned with heat issues using asteroid (or any other miner) on a rMBP? I have a 15" rMBP and the CPU Heatsink temps during normal usage are around 36-45C, when I run asteroid they are pretty much pegged around 61-64C. This seems a bit hot. I know Macs don't have the best cooling but I'm worried I'll return to a dead macbook one of these days (I run asteroid at night).
Anyone else have this concern or run into issue / can speak to the legitimacy (or not) of this concern? I do have the macbook propped up for increased airflow and I even try and open a nearby window to allows outside cool air to be drawn into the cooling system. Thanks Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: chopsticks on January 12, 2014, 03:18:39 AM I get an incorrect worker username/password error. Am I supposed to put in my account.workername in the Worker username field? or just the workername? Depends what pool you're working in. Be careful and note if the delimiter should be "." or "_" An example: chopsticks.workername <-- works in GHASH.io chopsticks.workername <-- does NOT work in BTC Guild! chopsticks_workername <-- works in BTC Guild Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Blackbird0 on January 12, 2014, 03:32:33 AM Anyone concerned with heat issues using asteroid (or any other miner) on a rMBP? I have a 15" rMBP and the CPU Heatsink temps during normal usage are around 36-45C, when I run asteroid they are pretty much pegged around 61-64C. This seems a bit hot. I know Macs don't have the best cooling but I'm worried I'll return to a dead macbook one of these days (I run asteroid at night). Anyone else have this concern or run into issue / can speak to the legitimacy (or not) of this concern? I do have the macbook propped up for increased airflow and I even try and open a nearby window to allows outside cool air to be drawn into the cooling system. Thanks If you're very concerned, purchase one of these bad boys: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A2243862011%2Ck%3Alaptop+fan+pads&keywords=laptop+fan+pads&ie=UTF8&qid=1389497508&rnid=493964 I've been using one on laptops for years, from back in the days when I ran BOINC on all my machines. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: Karin on January 21, 2014, 11:40:40 PM Asteroid 0.9.6 is now out
Download here (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php) or run "Check for updates..." from the in-app Asteroid menu Absolutely countless bug fixes and improvements. Asteroid can now use multiple mining engines simultaneously, meaning you get the latest version of scrypt-mining software, the latest version of bitcoin (sha-256) mining software, and any other specialized forks of cgminer, thus guaranteeing you the latest driver support. Yet you'd never know the difference -- everything is integrated into a single, consistent UI. http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/Screenshot_0.9.6_expanded.png Change log is as follows:
Please remember that Asteroid does not need any extra drivers or installs of any kind, nor any knowledge of the command-line! True plug-and-play. Here's the new MobileMiner login screen, which provides instant feedback on your login details. Login information is also stored in the Mac OS X keychain, so they are remembered with each new version of Asteroid without ever needing to re-enter them. :D http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/prefs_mobileminer_0.9.6.png Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: nwoolls on January 21, 2014, 11:44:56 PM Here's the new MobileMiner login screen, which provides instant feedback on your login details. Login information is also stored in the Mac OS X keychain, so they are remembered with each new version of Asteroid without ever needing to re-enter them. :D http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/prefs_mobileminer_0.9.6.png Congratulations on the new release! That screen alone looks fantastic ;D Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: perezoso on January 25, 2014, 02:23:15 PM CGMiner for Mac seems to be immediately updated with other CGMiner releases (thanks!) and, I assume, includes CGMiner mods for HF. Correct? Correct!I assume that Asteroid, as it relies on an older CGMiner build, will not work with HF hardware. Correct at the moment, but my internal builds of Asteroid support a variety of different miners, including old and new versions of cgminer. Once it is released, it will be on the same update schedule as my cgminer for Mac OS X builds. But at the moment, yes, you are correct :)Excellent. Thank you. Once I get some hardware (assuming they ship some hardware), I'll try it out and let you know how it goes. Hi Karin - HF hardware is finally in hand, although it arrived while I was out of town (groan). Am still planning to use cgminer for mac to control the first babyjet and more that are on the way. Hopefully we'll see 3.11 compiled on your site soon? Willing to be a guinea pig here if you create a version of asteroid that will support HF hardware, with the 3.11 mods. Plan to try to get up and running Sunday evening, North America time. Thanks! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Thom on January 25, 2014, 02:27:12 PM Anyone concerned with heat issues using asteroid (or any other miner) on a rMBP? I have a 15" rMBP and the CPU Heatsink temps during normal usage are around 36-45C, when I run asteroid they are pretty much pegged around 61-64C. This seems a bit hot. I know Macs don't have the best cooling but I'm worried I'll return to a dead macbook one of these days (I run asteroid at night). Anyone else have this concern or run into issue / can speak to the legitimacy (or not) of this concern? I do have the macbook propped up for increased airflow and I even try and open a nearby window to allows outside cool air to be drawn into the cooling system. Thanks Get SMC-FanControl. It's a menubar item with which you can max out all your fans. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: forzendiablo on January 25, 2014, 03:25:06 PM i wrote many times that i cannot run this tool on 1 of my macs - i mean it runs but never mines yet dev doesnt care ??? :)
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.5) Post by: Karin on January 25, 2014, 05:36:30 PM HF hardware is finally in hand, although it arrived while I was out of town (groan). Am still planning to use cgminer for mac to control the first babyjet and more that are on the way. Hopefully we'll see 3.11 compiled on your site soon? Willing to be a guinea pig here if you create a version of asteroid that will support HF hardware, with the 3.11 mods. Plan to try to get up and running Sunday evening, North America time. Thanks! Yep! It must have came out while I was asleep, but it's compiling now. I noticed that 3.11.0 will actually lower hashrates for nanofury devices without additional command line arguments, so I'm going to throw some code together to allow the user to reset it if they want.Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: Karin on January 25, 2014, 05:46:37 PM i wrote many times that i cannot run this tool on 1 of my macs - i mean it runs but never mines yet dev doesnt care ??? :) Hey Forzendiablo, I can assure you I do care :) You can contact me by text message, email, twitter, the Asteroid forums, these forums, and the in-app Send Feedback in Asteroid. Which method did you use? I apologize if it got lost somewhere.Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: chopsticks on January 26, 2014, 10:36:33 AM Thanks Karin! Excellent work
Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: perezoso on January 27, 2014, 02:45:32 AM No luck here, so far, getting the BabyJet to hash with 3.11.
Getting a "Hashfast detect (6:3) failed to initialize (incorrect device?)" message. Update: It hashes using the PC build of 3.11. Is this a driver or permissions issue? Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: Karin on January 27, 2014, 07:45:32 AM No luck here, so far, getting the BabyJet to hash with 3.11. Getting a "Hashfast detect (6:3) failed to initialize (incorrect device?)" message. Update: It hashes using the PC build of 3.11. Is this a driver or permissions issue? Yes, it is a driver issue. Without knowing more about your particular setup, just copy/paste this into Terminal before you launch cgminer 3.11.0 and it will disable all the known present conflicting drivers: Code: sudo kextunload -b com.silabs.driver.CP210xVCPDriver; sudo kextunload -b com.silabs.driver.CP210xVCPDriver64; sudo kextunload -b com.FTDI.driver.FTDIUSBSerialDriver; sudo kextunload -b com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDC; sudo kextunload -b com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCACMData; sudo kextunload -b com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCACMControl; sudo kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleUSBFTDI.kext It may give a few errors but it's not a problem, it'll just complain that some of the drivers you tried to disable aren't installed (which we know), but others likely are installed. The above is also temporary. Either logout and in again, or restart your machine, or replace every "kextunload" with "kextload" and run it again. Any of those will put your drivers back to how they were. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: perezoso on January 27, 2014, 05:53:05 PM No luck here, so far, getting the BabyJet to hash with 3.11. Getting a "Hashfast detect (6:3) failed to initialize (incorrect device?)" message. Update: It hashes using the PC build of 3.11. Is this a driver or permissions issue? Yes, it is a driver issue. Without knowing more about your particular setup, just copy/paste this into Terminal before you launch cgminer 3.11.0 and it will disable all the known present conflicting drivers: Code: sudo kextunload -b com.silabs.driver.CP210xVCPDriver; sudo kextunload -b com.silabs.driver.CP210xVCPDriver64; sudo kextunload -b com.FTDI.driver.FTDIUSBSerialDriver; sudo kextunload -b com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDC; sudo kextunload -b com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCACMData; sudo kextunload -b com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCACMControl; sudo kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleUSBFTDI.kext It may give a few errors but it's not a problem, it'll just complain that some of the drivers you tried to disable aren't installed (which we know), but others likely are installed. The above is also temporary. Either logout and in again, or restart your machine, or replace every "kextunload" with "kextload" and run it again. Any of those will put your drivers back to how they were. No dice on that, I'm afraid. It did find the device and it did start to hash (better than before unloading the drivers), but it was throwing a lot of errors (unhandled operation, mainly type 12, I believe) and complaining "device disappeared". When I killed it, it reported on HFB0, HFB1, and HFB2. Apparently it kept finding and losing the BJ? Controller is a Mac Mini Core2, last generation of the ones in the old-style plastic box, "Late 2009", I believe. running OS X 10.9 (BFGminer doesn't work either. It finds the device, the fans spin up and it apparently starts to hash, but you completely lose control of the process. Terminal is dead to any inputs, stuck on the add device screen. Only way to kill it is to quit out of Terminal altogether.) The BJ is good. It hashes on 3.11 PC version. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: cytron on February 05, 2014, 05:10:36 PM Hello there, i'm new to asteroid, and I seem to have a problem with it..
The app is telling me i'm mining at 7MH/s, while my pool indicates a hashrate of 12kh/s... I don't understand what's my problem.. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.6) Post by: Karin on February 05, 2014, 08:32:09 PM Hello there, i'm new to asteroid, and I seem to have a problem with it.. Hey cytron, my guess is that you are using a non-US locale, which confuses Asteroid when it tries to read "7,00 kh/s" for example (versus "7.00 kh/s"). This is my fault and better international support will be coming in an upcoming version.The app is telling me i'm mining at 7MH/s, while my pool indicates a hashrate of 12kh/s... I don't understand what's my problem.. If I'm wrong though please let me know and we'll look at other possibilities. :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: Karin on February 16, 2014, 09:37:41 PM Asteroid 0.9.7 is now out
Download here (http://www.asteroidapp.com/downloader.php) or run "Check for updates..." from the in-app Asteroid menu Among the biggest changes is the addition of live coin balances! Enter the API key from your pool's webpage and you'll see live balances in Asteroid of what you have currently mined. Also changed is the switch to sgminer (http://spaceman.ca/sgminer) for all scrypt mining. sgminer seems to be the spiritual successor to cgminer 3.7.2 insofar as scrypt mining, and it has already seen a number of bug fixes and improvements -- one of which is the ability to choose between 5 different kernels. The Asteroid website will track these kernels for you, and as always, recommend the best kernel and other settings for you to use based on the contributions of other users (16,000 scrypt setting submissions to date). Redesigned pool setup sheet: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/pool_setup_0.9.7.png Change log is as follows:
Please remember that Asteroid does not need any extra drivers or installs of any kind, nor any knowledge of the command-line! True plug-and-play. And one of my favourite new features? http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/Screenshot_viewsource.png Asteroid is one of the few pieces of bitcoin software written in an interpreted language, meaning the code you read on your screen is the code that your computer executes -- there are no fully compiled intermediaries apart from the mining engines themselves (cgminer, sgminer, etc) which are also open-source. So if you wonder how Asteroid does something, just go to "View source code" from the Asteroid menu and it will pop up. Feel free to edit it, save it, and re-run Asteroid to see your coding changes. :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: film2240 on February 20, 2014, 12:06:59 PM Can you add support for my DualMiner ASIC with all mining modes (BTC only,LTC only and BTC/LTC combo mining) asap as I really want to try this out/get started quickly/reliably on my mac?
Thanks :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: Karin on February 20, 2014, 07:16:28 PM Can you add support for my DualMiner ASIC with all mining modes (BTC only,LTC only and BTC/LTC combo mining) asap as I really want to try this out/get started quickly/reliably on my mac? Thanks :) They haven't yet released the source code they're using (possibly contravening the software license), but I've sent them an email and we'll see what they say. Thanks for the feedback via PM too, it's good to hear this is a real device. Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: ladycor on March 04, 2014, 08:53:02 PM Hi there. Excuse my absolute noob-ness. I have a Macbook Pro with an Intel 4000 card and have tried to run Asteriod to mine Litecoins and Dogecoins. The max rate I can seem to get is 13 or 14 kh/s. Is this the limit of my card/laptop or is it possible to get a better rate? I am in the US on US pool servers.
Thanks! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: Karin on March 04, 2014, 09:11:11 PM Hi there. Excuse my absolute noob-ness. I have a Macbook Pro with an Intel 4000 card and have tried to run Asteriod to mine Litecoins and Dogecoins. The max rate I can seem to get is 13 or 14 kh/s. Is this the limit of my card/laptop or is it possible to get a better rate? I am in the US on US pool servers. Thanks! According to the scrypt database (http://www.asteroidapp.com/litecoindb.php) on the Asteroid site, people are generally getting around 21kh/s with that device. You may just need to increase the intensity you are mining at, which you can do from the small triangle seen here: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/Change_intensity.png If you increase your intensity too high your computer will bog down and may feel less responsive. Too low and you may not be getting the best hashrate. :) Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: ladycor on March 04, 2014, 09:40:29 PM Hi there. Excuse my absolute noob-ness. I have a Macbook Pro with an Intel 4000 card and have tried to run Asteriod to mine Litecoins and Dogecoins. The max rate I can seem to get is 13 or 14 kh/s. Is this the limit of my card/laptop or is it possible to get a better rate? I am in the US on US pool servers. Thanks! According to the scrypt database (http://www.asteroidapp.com/litecoindb.php) on the Asteroid site, people are generally getting around 21kh/s with that device. You may just need to increase the intensity you are mining at, which you can do from the small triangle seen here: http://www.asteroidapp.com/images/Change_intensity.png If you increase your intensity too high your computer will bog down and may feel less responsive. Too low and you may not be getting the best hashrate. :) Thanks for the advice! On my screen, the intensity defaulted to 10 and I've bumped it up to 12 or 13 and still get a bit shy of 14 kh/s. At this point I do not try to use my machine for anything else. Should I give up on mining until I have a more powerful machine and card? Thanks again! Title: Re: Asteroid -- a new Mac mining client (0.9.7) Post by: Karin on March 04, 2014, 11:18:22 PM Thanks for the advice! On my screen, the intensity defaulted to 10 and I've bumped it up to 12 or 13 and still get a bit shy of 14 kh/s. At this point I do not try to use my machine for anything else. Should I give up on mining until I have a more powerful machine and card? Thanks again! It depends what you're mining. Most serious mining is done with fairly high-end graphics cards, but you may still find it fun to play around in what are called "altcoins", or basically anything that isn't bitcoin / litecoin. A website like CoinWarz (http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency) is a great resource for finding what may be profitable and/or worthwhile :) |
