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First Bitcoin fork, then cash then China everytime we think Bitcoin has survived it and it shall move on, then suddenly out of the blue we get news that bitcoin is being forked again in November. There was a proposal, consensus was reached, why then do they want to do this. It will make three Bitcoins and we shall be a divided house. I don't understand this Roger guy at all, whose he to make decisions on behalf of Bitcoin community. I do hope no fork happens or what do you think will there be a fork.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-20/-bitcoin-jesus-ver-sees-the-digital-currency-splitting-again

you just described almost every day of bitcoin for the past 6-7 years that bitcoin entered first exchange and was traded on a larger scale

the proposal and consensus was New York agreement as far as i can remember and that was SegWit2x and that is what they have been doing: activate SegWit before August 1st and then hard fork in a couple of months to 2 MB (not that i agree with it though).

not necessarily.

there is drama coming to "bitcoin" and he wants to use that to pump his altcoin called bitcoin-cash.

Forks aren't necessarily bad. Sometimes forks are necessary for bitcoin to move forward. The news about a possibly fork on November isn't new.

Division between communities is to be expected in a decentralized platform. Like it or not. People will always have their own opinions and ideas on how to move a certain project forward.

Also, I don't think Roger Ver has that much anything to do with the November fork, as he has already has a version of bitcoin that he prefers. And also, Roger Ver definitely has no authority to make decisions on behalf of the bitcoin community. He already has his own project, BitcoinCash.

Let's just clear one thing up here, Roger Ver does not make decisions for other people. He may have some support and some money to pay people to do things for him. Bitcoin is a Open Source experiment and anyone can submit code to change the way Bitcoin works. < like this implementation, where they upgrade the Block sizes >

The final decision is with the people who decide to run the code. You can decide what software you want to run and if there is enough people supporting that implementation, consensus is reached to fork Bitcoin.

People like Roger Ver will pay people to support the cause he believe in, because he has the money to do that. < Payment can be direct or forums that he paid people to design for that purpose. >  ::)

The November fork is not in any way, shape or form "out of the blue". I have known about it since late July and others surely before that. So I am not sure where you are getting your info from. Maybe you just heard about it now, but we have known about it for a very long time.

I personally hope there is a fork as it allows for implementation (or easier implementation) of Lightning Network, which we need asap as fees are getting out of hand.

you are being too melodramatic here :D

we all know there will always be some kind of issue with bitcoin that worries people. and it has never mattered what that issue is, they build it up in their little heads and the FUD helps it too. and here nothing has changed, there will be the same FUD as always, there may even be the same drop too but at the end of the day the panic sellers lose and the whales become richer when bitcoin recovers.

as for RV. don't bother yourself much with what characters say about bitcoin, they always have some benefit in what they say no matter who they are.

Bitcoin is an all year round trading asset. The seasons come and go..bitcoin is exhibiting untold desterity in maintaining upward momentum. I am impressed by its robustness.

Fork is happening and unfortunately we don't have the power to stop it from happening, the markets have gone crazy as fuck since the announcement of the fork was made, bitcoin reached all time high 6100$,and it ain't no joke. Worst part is there is going to be another fork in November, mostly between November 18-20. God knows what is going to happen. Just wish that things happen really fast and then no one should be regretting about anything.

Yeah, this winter will be harder than for the characters of Game of Thrones...
I hope, eventually, the price of Bitcoins will rise

I don't think why people are so much worried about bitcoin hard fork, it's the price we pay for bitcoin being open source. If someone doesn't like something about bitcoin, they are free to have their own version. It's another thing that a lots of people don't go with them and their version turns out to be a debacle. We have had enough hard forks, though majority of bitcoin lovers don't want them to take place, and bitcoin has always emerged as a winner. I don't think it's going to be a big deal this time too.

Precise and like they say " coming events cast their shadows" bitcoin has already risen above all the challenges forkers and other evil people who dislike bitcoin are doing to sabotage it's success. I also don't think the story will be different like it was in the past and bitcoin will come out of any potential challenge so strong.

While we don’t know exactly how things will play out in November, things are still looking good. I think this is something we are all going to benefit from.

Winter was here and pass quickly. Now is again summer  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/XxdymWil.png

Looks like if all the opposite of what you wrote in this thread is happening at the moment, bitcoin is upto $6,1k and it seems that we have a strong support in there, i dont think that the price will go down again because we are very up at the moment. More than 2 thousand dollars in less than a week, this is amazing, i didnt thought that it was really going to happen, and less in those moments that we are going to face a new hard fork.

The November fork has been talked about quite heavily over the last few months so everyone should be aware of it, perhaps the upcoming bitcoin gold has overshadowed the November one, the one in November at least has something decent in it, the bitcoin cash and the bitcoin gold fork are just senseless to me anyway, If I was a gambler I would put money on us having at least another 5 or 6 forks by this time next year, it will get to the point where it will become a joke.

imo segwit2x fork is already a joke and will laugh for days if this happen :D

Winter has come. It was very short and, uhm, not so cold.  ;D Or did it ever come at all? And now summer is here. Bitcoin has successfully made it past $6,000. So far, it is still holding on to it tightly. Perhaps we will see this month a bitcoin priced at $7,000 before dipping. And then rally once again right before the year ends.

I don't think we're in store for 'a divided house'.  Even the fork supporters will likely continue
to use bitcoin...and so will everyone else.  It does surprise me a bit that this bitcoin gold
fork is happening, because it seems completely unnecessary, just like bitcoin cash.  And it's
going to be in for the same fate as well, relegated to the bargain bin of shit coins, and with
very few buyers or users.  Ever.

Bitcoin gold won't have an effect on the real bitcoin.  I'd put money on that.

I agree with you about this, does winter really comes with Bitcoin because I think it is always a blossom season for it for every split that happened and will happen, Bitcoin nowadays are becoming stronger and stronger after each issues and FUDs that is throwing into it and it is just like the defensive mechanism of it are becoming harden the more you attack it. People are getting used to Bitcoin's haters and doubters and they are not listening to those easily nowadays.

I also want no forks to produce. Now the market is chaotic, although BTC has been rising prices. But I think the risk is great, and it's easy to ruin the value of bitcoin if you branch it out. Come or go back to mining mechanism

Chill out man. Fork or not bitcoin will still thrive. And more importantly, Roger did not make any decision. He just made an opinion that there's separation in the developers that will cause the forks. For me, forks are good as this causes some competition and the winner becomes "stronger". Will it divide the community? Yes. But in the end, majority always wins and we will hop on that bandwagon. Just look out for profit opportunities during all this circus.

Keep the forks coming, they aint stoppin btc. They just keep proving that btc is here to stay!!!

i think fork have another purpose to keep maintain btc on the right track and i think its not depend on the fork because we know bitcoin price will be higher after the fork happen. so if there is any fork is coming, we only need to wait and hoping that if the price is down, then we can buy bitcoin again. like many people said, this time we have to face a fork and we don't need to be panic and we can sit down and enjoy the ride and after the fork, we can see the price will increase again.

As we see Bitcoin Cash is valued at much lower level than grandfather Bitcoin.
I suppose, every next clone of Bitcoin will be valued even lower  than Bitcoin Cash.
What is the purpose and sense to produce this "low-end" clones is a mystery for me.
As some said previously, this only produce chaos and confusion for newcomers to crypto-world.

I believe there will still be new forks for bitcoin in the yeas ahead if it is financially worth it. Bitcoin will still be bitcoin.

It is difficult to predict what might happen when a hardfork occurs. In the past, a lot of people were worried that the bitcoin might go down, but things did not look like they were, and now things are going to be alike.

Its true that Roger ver has already become the anti christ of bitcoin.But he has nothing to do with november fork.Frequent hard forks has become a matter of serious concern.Earlier,People were afraid of hard forks and they used to sell their bitcoins in panic.They sincerely expected that hard forks should not happen.

But nowadays,things have changed totally upside down.People are eagerly expecting hard forks to occur and they even buy more bitcoins so that they could get equal amount of free coins.Then,they just dump those free coins quickly.It is for this reason that bitcoin price is now increasing very high and has reached $5,910 today.

Overall,frequent hard forks is not good for the progress of bitcoin.

if the winters of Westeros was also like winters of bitcoin then they wouldn't need the wall nor the nights watch. we should call George R. R. Martin to have that in mind when writing "The Winds of Winter". maybe in the middle of the fight with the Others we find out "winter" was all FUD for Little Finger to buy more coins :D

Well, it could go into a bear market in a short time.But bitcoin has never been afraid of anything, isn't it?

I just want the end of the winter to hold my bitcoins during years, delete my bitcoin apps and forget about it.

https://i.imgur.com/sbMnmfa.png

And the willybot would be the one that is teleporting armies around westeros , right?
And the characters that disappear like donkeys in the fog would be the darkweb markets :)).
Unfortunately this analogy will make Satoshi the Mad King cause everything started because of him and his premonitions.

Each speculation that forks will bring helicopter money makes the price go higher.
Once those coins derived from forks will start showing their true value (big fat 0) the forks  will stop influencing the price.


It's still one fork to go, not everything is over yet.
And probably this one will be a bit messy.

Forks made bitcoin surpass the cap on its max price. Just the news of another fork by november made bitcoin to reach its all time high record of 6100$. We can imagine how much potential does it have.

Well it does not really directly affecting the Bitcoin price since the trade mostly will be between bitcoin and the forked coin. It will not affect much the price of Bitcoin or the trade between BTC/USD but anyway we will know what are the people's reaction whether they will still stick to the "real" bitcoin or switch to another which they see it as a better one. As they say, the fork that will happen is different from what happen during BCH.

They've already killed poor Aerys II with a dagger in his back. They even killed the Usurper Robert Baratheon with a boar in his belly. now the Tommen Baratheon, protector of the realm sits on the iron throne with swords in his back like forks. and nobody uses donkeys anymore in kings landing. they are the mount of the wildlings which choose alternative ways.

they bring helicopter money but the money doesn't fly in bitcoin. those who want bitcoin will sell their fork for bitcoin directly not indirectly using a fiat.
that is why they don't affect the price after the fork but may affect it before.

Forks need to happen for the better of Bitcoin. But this is starting to get ridiculous. It doesn't need to happen every few months it only needs to happen to improve on the limits of bitcoin

Although I agree that there is need to brace up for more impact because even with the victory recorded so far by bitcoin currently and in the past, there are still more to come and only someone who is not conversant with the situation of things will think the upward trend will continue without some challenges. It will come but we have our consolation that just like the past, bitcoin will still triumph.

The part of dividing the house into 3 is what I won't go for because a lot of forks will still come and the core supporters are still very  much active which means the whole of the other forks will be treated as an alt and for that reasons the population is not divided into several groups supporting each alt. Traders are trying to make money that's why they trade in alts aside that, no other objective.

Still looking good for Bitcoin haha, even with all of the hard forks and FUD from every corner. And once the forks happen we'll sell the Bitcoin fork chain for more Bitcoin. $9,500 per BTC by Christmas.

That is correct. We don't need developers or minings taking decisions. If consensus is not reached, let there be a fork. The free market will decide which branch has more value. The other branch can occupy a niche spot or gradually fade away.

Will be closer to the end of November, another fork, of course a small but still worry about this is not worth it, as Bitcoin will remain at the forefront.

Every bitcoin forks make the bitcoin become more expensive and higher price