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September 21, 2017, 04:21:13 AM
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First Bitcoin fork, then cash then China everytime we think Bitcoin has survived it and it shall move on, then suddenly out of the blue we get news that bitcoin is being forked again in November. There was a proposal, consensus was reached, why then do they want to do this. It will make three Bitcoins and we shall be a divided house. I don't understand this Roger guy at all, whose he to make decisions on behalf of Bitcoin community. I do hope no fork happens or what do you think will there be a fork.
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September 21, 2017, 04:30:52 AM
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First Bitcoin fork, then cash then China everytime we think Bitcoin has survived it and it shall move on, then suddenly out of the blue we get news that bitcoin is being forked again in November.
you just described almost every day of bitcoin for the past 6-7 years that bitcoin entered first exchange and was traded on a larger scale

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There was a proposal, consensus was reached, why then do they want to do this.
the proposal and consensus was New York agreement as far as i can remember and that was SegWit2x and that is what they have been doing: activate SegWit before August 1st and then hard fork in a couple of months to 2 MB (not that i agree with it though).

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It will make three Bitcoins and we shall be a divided house.
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I don't understand this Roger guy at all, whose he to make decisions on behalf of Bitcoin community.
there is drama coming to "bitcoin" and he wants to use that to pump his altcoin called bitcoin-cash.

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September 21, 2017, 04:37:34 AM
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Forks aren't necessarily bad. Sometimes forks are necessary for bitcoin to move forward. The news about a possibly fork on November isn't new.

Division between communities is to be expected in a decentralized platform. Like it or not. People will always have their own opinions and ideas on how to move a certain project forward.

Also, I don't think Roger Ver has that much anything to do with the November fork, as he has already has a version of bitcoin that he prefers. And also, Roger Ver definitely has no authority to make decisions on behalf of the bitcoin community. He already has his own project, BitcoinCash.

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September 21, 2017, 06:58:17 AM
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Let's just clear one thing up here, Roger Ver does not make decisions for other people. He may have some support and some money to pay people to do things for him. Bitcoin is a Open Source experiment and anyone can submit code to change the way Bitcoin works. < like this implementation, where they upgrade the Block sizes >

The final decision is with the people who decide to run the code. You can decide what software you want to run and if there is enough people supporting that implementation, consensus is reached to fork Bitcoin.

People like Roger Ver will pay people to support the cause he believe in, because he has the money to do that. < Payment can be direct or forums that he paid people to design for that purpose. >  Roll Eyes

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September 21, 2017, 07:00:27 AM
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First Bitcoin fork, then cash then China everytime we think Bitcoin has survived it and it shall move on, then suddenly out of the blue we get news that bitcoin is being forked again in November. There was a proposal, consensus was reached, why then do they want to do this. It will make three Bitcoins and we shall be a divided house. I don't understand this Roger guy at all, whose he to make decisions on behalf of Bitcoin community. I do hope no fork happens or what do you think will there be a fork.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-20/-bitcoin-jesus-ver-sees-the-digital-currency-splitting-again


The November fork is not in any way, shape or form "out of the blue". I have known about it since late July and others surely before that. So I am not sure where you are getting your info from. Maybe you just heard about it now, but we have known about it for a very long time.

I personally hope there is a fork as it allows for implementation (or easier implementation) of Lightning Network, which we need asap as fees are getting out of hand.

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September 21, 2017, 07:33:16 AM
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you are being too melodramatic here Cheesy

we all know there will always be some kind of issue with bitcoin that worries people. and it has never mattered what that issue is, they build it up in their little heads and the FUD helps it too. and here nothing has changed, there will be the same FUD as always, there may even be the same drop too but at the end of the day the panic sellers lose and the whales become richer when bitcoin recovers.

as for RV. don't bother yourself much with what characters say about bitcoin, they always have some benefit in what they say no matter who they are.

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October 21, 2017, 07:56:00 PM
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Bitcoin is an all year round trading asset. The seasons come and go..bitcoin is exhibiting untold desterity in maintaining upward momentum. I am impressed by its robustness.
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October 21, 2017, 08:08:50 PM
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First Bitcoin fork, then cash then China everytime we think Bitcoin has survived it and it shall move on, then suddenly out of the blue we get news that bitcoin is being forked again in November. There was a proposal, consensus was reached, why then do they want to do this. It will make three Bitcoins and we shall be a divided house. I don't understand this Roger guy at all, whose he to make decisions on behalf of Bitcoin community. I do hope no fork happens or what do you think will there be a fork.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-20/-bitcoin-jesus-ver-sees-the-digital-currency-splitting-again

Fork is happening and unfortunately we don't have the power to stop it from happening, the markets have gone crazy as fuck since the announcement of the fork was made, bitcoin reached all time high 6100$,and it ain't no joke. Worst part is there is going to be another fork in November, mostly between November 18-20. God knows what is going to happen. Just wish that things happen really fast and then no one should be regretting about anything.


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October 21, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
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Yeah, this winter will be harder than for the characters of Game of Thrones...
I hope, eventually, the price of Bitcoins will rise
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October 21, 2017, 08:21:52 PM
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I don't think why people are so much worried about bitcoin hard fork, it's the price we pay for bitcoin being open source. If someone doesn't like something about bitcoin, they are free to have their own version. It's another thing that a lots of people don't go with them and their version turns out to be a debacle. We have had enough hard forks, though majority of bitcoin lovers don't want them to take place, and bitcoin has always emerged as a winner. I don't think it's going to be a big deal this time too.

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October 21, 2017, 10:09:52 PM
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I don't think why people are so much worried about bitcoin hard fork, it's the price we pay for bitcoin being open source. If someone doesn't like something about bitcoin, they are free to have their own version. It's another thing that a lots of people don't go with them and their version turns out to be a debacle. We have had enough hard forks, though majority of bitcoin lovers don't want them to take place, and bitcoin has always emerged as a winner. I don't think it's going to be a big deal this time too.

Precise and like they say " coming events cast their shadows" bitcoin has already risen above all the challenges forkers and other evil people who dislike bitcoin are doing to sabotage it's success. I also don't think the story will be different like it was in the past and bitcoin will come out of any potential challenge so strong.
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October 21, 2017, 11:01:06 PM
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While we don’t know exactly how things will play out in November, things are still looking good. I think this is something we are all going to benefit from.
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Winter was here and pass quickly. Now is again summer  Grin


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October 21, 2017, 11:15:53 PM
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Looks like if all the opposite of what you wrote in this thread is happening at the moment, bitcoin is upto $6,1k and it seems that we have a strong support in there, i dont think that the price will go down again because we are very up at the moment. More than 2 thousand dollars in less than a week, this is amazing, i didnt thought that it was really going to happen, and less in those moments that we are going to face a new hard fork.
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October 21, 2017, 11:25:43 PM
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First Bitcoin fork, then cash then China everytime we think Bitcoin has survived it and it shall move on, then suddenly out of the blue we get news that bitcoin is being forked again in November. There was a proposal, consensus was reached, why then do they want to do this. It will make three Bitcoins and we shall be a divided house. I don't understand this Roger guy at all, whose he to make decisions on behalf of Bitcoin community. I do hope no fork happens or what do you think will there be a fork.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-20/-bitcoin-jesus-ver-sees-the-digital-currency-splitting-again


The November fork is not in any way, shape or form "out of the blue". I have known about it since late July and others surely before that. So I am not sure where you are getting your info from. Maybe you just heard about it now, but we have known about it for a very long time.

I personally hope there is a fork as it allows for implementation (or easier implementation) of Lightning Network, which we need asap as fees are getting out of hand.
The November fork has been talked about quite heavily over the last few months so everyone should be aware of it, perhaps the upcoming bitcoin gold has overshadowed the November one, the one in November at least has something decent in it, the bitcoin cash and the bitcoin gold fork are just senseless to me anyway, If I was a gambler I would put money on us having at least another 5 or 6 forks by this time next year, it will get to the point where it will become a joke.
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October 22, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
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First Bitcoin fork, then cash then China everytime we think Bitcoin has survived it and it shall move on, then suddenly out of the blue we get news that bitcoin is being forked again in November. There was a proposal, consensus was reached, why then do they want to do this. It will make three Bitcoins and we shall be a divided house. I don't understand this Roger guy at all, whose he to make decisions on behalf of Bitcoin community. I do hope no fork happens or what do you think will there be a fork.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-20/-bitcoin-jesus-ver-sees-the-digital-currency-splitting-again


The November fork is not in any way, shape or form "out of the blue". I have known about it since late July and others surely before that. So I am not sure where you are getting your info from. Maybe you just heard about it now, but we have known about it for a very long time.

I personally hope there is a fork as it allows for implementation (or easier implementation) of Lightning Network, which we need asap as fees are getting out of hand.
The November fork has been talked about quite heavily over the last few months so everyone should be aware of it, perhaps the upcoming bitcoin gold has overshadowed the November one, the one in November at least has something decent in it, the bitcoin cash and the bitcoin gold fork are just senseless to me anyway, If I was a gambler I would put money on us having at least another 5 or 6 forks by this time next year, it will get to the point where it will become a joke.

imo segwit2x fork is already a joke and will laugh for days if this happen Cheesy

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October 22, 2017, 12:21:17 AM
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Winter has come. It was very short and, uhm, not so cold.  Grin Or did it ever come at all? And now summer is here. Bitcoin has successfully made it past $6,000. So far, it is still holding on to it tightly. Perhaps we will see this month a bitcoin priced at $7,000 before dipping. And then rally once again right before the year ends.
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October 22, 2017, 12:23:40 AM
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I don't think we're in store for 'a divided house'.  Even the fork supporters will likely continue
to use bitcoin...and so will everyone else.  It does surprise me a bit that this bitcoin gold
fork is happening, because it seems completely unnecessary, just like bitcoin cash.  And it's
going to be in for the same fate as well, relegated to the bargain bin of shit coins, and with
very few buyers or users.  Ever.

Bitcoin gold won't have an effect on the real bitcoin.  I'd put money on that.
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October 22, 2017, 12:30:25 AM
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Winter has come. It was very short and, uhm, not so cold.  Grin Or did it ever come at all? And now summer is here. Bitcoin has successfully made it past $6,000. So far, it is still holding on to it tightly. Perhaps we will see this month a bitcoin priced at $7,000 before dipping. And then rally once again right before the year ends.

I agree with you about this, does winter really comes with Bitcoin because I think it is always a blossom season for it for every split that happened and will happen, Bitcoin nowadays are becoming stronger and stronger after each issues and FUDs that is throwing into it and it is just like the defensive mechanism of it are becoming harden the more you attack it. People are getting used to Bitcoin's haters and doubters and they are not listening to those easily nowadays.



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October 22, 2017, 12:51:33 AM
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I also want no forks to produce. Now the market is chaotic, although BTC has been rising prices. But I think the risk is great, and it's easy to ruin the value of bitcoin if you branch it out. Come or go back to mining mechanism

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