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Shit man this is bad. Real Bad. I hope the admins can do something about this. The only problem is that they will just buy new accounts and spread their FUD on that.

Is there any competition you can think of that would do such thing? Or do you think it is just a random guy who sees you as an opportunity to make money?

Unfortunately, extortionists are not only welcomed here, but they are put into positions of power (in the DefaultTrust network)

The FUD and Extortion is widespread now in bitcointalk ever since the start of ICO frenzy. And almost every other thread have FUD's from unknown sources. There are no rules stating to be banned by spreading this verifiably false statements from those newbie accounts. I guess the best and easiest option was to make the thread self-moderated. Other threads like bankera, polybius are also infested by scam accusations. I do think that there are only 1 group behind that or maybe a single person.

It is unfortunate that the moderators did not react to numerous complaints from the forum participants on the mosprognoz and other scammers. If this goes on, BitcoinTalk will be pushed to the site, where only scam projects will be placed.

I newer saw the topic like this on bitcointalk before ! Do you want to change the rules of the forum? Same things are happening on lot of threats, but nothing is changing and nothing will, coz bitcointalk is decentralized ! Cheers !  
Edit : And who the f@ck is QUESTRA WORLD?

WOW ! Now the scammers are accusing bitcointalk administration and default trust members in supporting of extortion on this forum !  Great.. No more comments !

Dude.. you are number one spammer and scammer on this forum ! Also you are the record holder of negative trust rating !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020

LOL !

Compile a list of connected accounts and provide evidence of their connection/involvement, where possible. Given sufficient evidence, I'd be willing to leave a negative rating to all accounts. The case should also then be taken to someone who can verify their connection from an administrative view (Cyrus) and handled appropriately (permanent ban on all accounts).

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Also, welcome to the internet.

Inaction does not have to imply support.

Thanks for getting back to us!

Well, you will be able to find connection without problems if you read our Russian thread where this group of criminals started activity around 2 weeks ago, it's needless to say that if a few accounts posting BlackPR style posts 24/7 it's not organic discussion, all they do is attacking Worldcore and nothing else from 1st post to the last one. For example, Marina Uni has hundreds of posts within less than 2 weeks, all of them about Worldcore and all of them is flood, insults and absolutely fake information and unreal conclusions as well as jemura. These are the most active accounts. We kindly request you to browse our Russian thread through Google translate from page #30:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2116305.new

People who are involved in discussion are more than tired of this all.

You've got this wrong. You want others to act based on something that you claim has been going on. You need to provide proof for said claims.
1) I don't understand Russian well enough to read that.
2) I don't plan on spending my own, already very limited, time, analyzing your issue.
3) You will have to provide some sort of list and proof if you want to see action from me. I'm sure that the others feel the same way.

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There are way too many cases of this, as well as the opposite (shilling your own project with accounts or paid shilling from others) for members to analyze each and every one of those.

I m sure some russian bounty managers are connected to these account. They always ask 2 or 5 bitcoin to manage your bounty program.

A quality project like WorldCore
it should not have fallen into this situation
spammers damaged the project

Hey Lauda, I have an extortion scheme that I need investigated. Can you help us out?

This Might help the case.
https://i.imgur.com/a5casJ9.jpg
It would really be helpful when the Ann thread is up so that we can see the patterns of posting from those accounts.  The above screenshot is just a snapshot from google webcache.

Last thing i remember is mosprognoz started questioning the worldcore's legalities and all of it are answered. Then he began to post a lot of Scam Accusations and all was answered on that thread. This is not right as Scam accusations should be inside the Scam Accusations thread. He makes the Worldcore thread a place of discussion of this Scam accusations.

mosprognoz statement are being backed up by bambarnia(Can't provide you a screenshot since the thread is down).

Signs that mosprognoz and barbarnia are the same person.

- They always backed up their statement.
Proofs
https://web.archive.org/web/20171002171136
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569;sa=showPosts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts
https://web.archive.org/web/20171002172049/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553;sa=showPosts


 - Two accounts are created on the same date and at almost the same time
mosprognoz - Date Registered:   August 03, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
bambarnia  - Date Registered:   August 03, 2017, 07:10:42 PM

Coincidence?

The spam of Scam accusations continues the next day then, a private message on facebook appears.
 https://i.imgur.com/svYVKD7.png

mosprognoz continues to spread FUD and LIES on the thread later that day. bambarnia suddenly stopped and not backed mosprognoz statement. Also at that time when bambarnia is inactive, many newbie accounts are created to attack the Ann thread and also the Russian thread. jemura and mosprognoz started to spread some lies in the Ann thread. Maria Uni was the first one to be spotted on spreading FUD and Scam accusations on Russian thread.

Signs that jemura and Maria Uni are controlled by mosprognoz.

- Like mosprognoz, jemura and Maria Uni are spreading the same scam Accusations.
- Like mosprognoz and bambarnia, jemura and Maria Uni are both created on the same date. This is the sign that the threat of facebook private message is real and this person are using all kinds of dirty tricks to extort.
Maria Uni - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM
jemura - Date Registered:   September 20, 2017, 02:26:12 PM

- Like mosprognoz and bambarnia, they always backed up their arguments. This time, in russian thread. No need to translate this. Just wanted to point a sign that these accounts are controlled by a single person/group.



The rest of the newbie accounts.

Veleor
- Only posted on Worldcore Russian thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1177936;sa=showPosts
- Date Registered:   September 29, 2017, 11:24:07 PM

Matananan
- Account revived after a few months. Only to post on Deeponion and WorldCore
- Signature is also a clear sign that this account is used for shilling and owned by mosprognoz. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1006668;sa=showPosts

Reyzex
- Revived after a month only to post in Worldcore russian thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071232;sa=showPosts

Bitcointalk profiles of linked accounts.
mosprognoz : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569
bambarnia : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094553
Reyzex : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071232
jemura : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162728
Maria Uni : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162311

I remember when you were actually helpful to people, rather than making snide remarks in inappropriate situations. Can we get that Quickseller back?

He was never helpful to anyone, in a sense where he actually cared about the people who he was *helping*. He was pretending to care, with his ultimate, yet malicious goal to achieve DT status and later strengthen it. My statement is backed up by evidence. The evidence is his obvious lack of *helpfulness* after he lost his DT status/got exposed for his scamming schemes.

So does that mean you cannot help me with my extortion investigation?

Dear Moderator,

Worldcore was also included ion Deloitte report about Fintech - https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/global/Documents/About-Deloitte/central-europe/ce-fintech-in-cee-region-2016.pdf

Mosprognoz with his totally false and fake "information" showed up again here.

We kindly request to recover our English ANN thread.

Thank you!

Thank you so much!

We sincerely hope that such chain of events can be considered by administration as a proof of the things which we are talking about and can be a reason for permanent ban of these accounts and recovery of our English ANN thread.

Why was the English worldcore.com announcement thread deleted from bitcointalk?

Did worldcore.com violate any rules? Usually threads get locked, not deleted.

Did the scammer trick a moderator into deleting a thread?

Did the scammer cooperate with a bitcointalk moderator? I guess not. I hope not. Needless to say, that this conclusion is not too hard to think.

You can find answer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2222344.0
Reason: "On-forum altcoin giveaway / Incentivising posting within thread via bounty."

Can we change bounty conditions but get the thread recovered?

I thing easy to create new one. And i found good explanation of why the topic is closed:

I see now. So this why some threads last month was also taken down.

This is a LEGIT project. If the minimum amount wasn't so high, I would definitely participate.


By the way is there a way to join bounty..just signature and twitter. If still possible?

Also some other big projects, i was ICO investor in, had to cope with PAID fudders... tens of posts a day wath scam accusations, now they are doing good.

Read comments http://scamanalyze.com/check/worldcore.eu.html

THANK YOU NOW LET'S LINK YOUR F--- ON THAT THREAD POOR KID.

I hope the signature campaign is continuing without any issues, good luck on the restoration of your main thread.

Now my stolen money in Panteon Finance used for buying huge AD's in Prague billboards and subway trains.Awesome!

"Help help!BlackPR!"

Smell Krymov's signature ...BlackPR whining is everywhere under his SCAM projects.

As Krymov is a huge pro in SCAM's - its impossible to prove everything completely.

Everyone just see and know its him and his paidposters JUST LIKE YOU "kid". Easy!

Also http://stopkrymov.com/ this source has all proofs and usefull info if folks around here are OK to use google translate.

http://stopkrymov.com/news/ostorozhno-worldcore-skam-poslednie-popytki-moshennika-pavla-krymova-prodvinut-ico-worldcore - this one is about your shitcore directly.

Stealing even $1 is still considered as a CRIME !  But now you are planing to steal millions with help of your scammy ICO ! Nobody will invest in your shitty campaign after reading all scam accusations all over the internet and bitcointalk !

Here is the scam accusation in English :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.0

Here is the scam accusation in Russian :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg23037953#msg23037953

It's interesting how all profiles that accuse about scam have been created in last month. Usually, new persons to the site take time to learn about scams and crypto culture. Also how most of them have commented 90% of the post only to worldcoretopics. Usually, I believe pretty easily that everything is a scam (because 99% of them are :/, you can still make money out of them), but for once I'm thinking that yeah this is pure blackmailing.

It is BS. This world core is a real life company out there. If they will steal money, I go here to police, press charges, because they are in other European country, so the case will advance to Interpol. They will catch them. That's how easy.

But I don't believe this is scam. These idiots wasting their time here to destroy a project so maybe they can get at end of the day around 500 usd.

Same happened to Polybius and Monaco ICO.  Pages of so called "proofs" of how the projects were scam and not to invest in. Many believed. Guess what, Monaco made many rich by going 20x and Polybius is still around putting finishing touch on their banking development.

These people (FUDers) don't waste their time here for poor investors, they are here for personal gain.

Ooh, damn your cute. Best arguments ever xDD And no, I haven't participated for this actually, probaply won't either, have few other projects that feel more appealing. But still, don´t support blackmailing campaigns either.

Can't believe that Bitcointalk allowed this criminals to attack this really good project.

Its not about allowing criminals or not, its about giving everybody a voice whether you are saying the right thing or not. If the attackers are banned out-rightly, it then means any scam projects will not be given right to defend itself because all critics have been banned due to the forum rules. This alone will create more problem than what it would have stopped.

The issue here is simple even if they are banned, nothing stopped them from creating another account and start the attack. Although, to be me, its a clear case of extortion and I expect the admin to do something about it though but you can just send a message to them because one account that I followed has not been tagged yet.

Also, the claims that is being spread should be addressed and you can create a new thread to be self moderated but make reference to the old thread and state the reason why because of new people coming in.

Thank you so much for support!

It's a true pleasure to see that all people adequately understand what's going on. This team of fraudsters and extortionists keeps attacking our company and fortunately they are not successful :) ICO is going fine despite the industry slows down because of upcoming fork of Bitcoin.

It seems, you catch THE POINT:) If they "steal" from account,means accounts exist and work...same can happen in ANY Bank from the TOP 100 list,too.

Need to find out more about this ICO... European regulated, combine card...promising future

You need to understand that there's nothing that can be done. Moderators don't remove likely scams, and the exact opposite is true as well - they don't stop users from saying X Company is a scam either. It is down to the individual investors to judge whether they trust something enough to put their hard earned money into it.

Sorry this isn't the answer you are hoping for, but this is just the way it Is, and always has been.

Nobody gives a f@ck if you are OK with something or not !  

Well we both know what will (usually) happen if you photoshop an admin profile (or anything like that) - that person will likely get banned IF they are caught out.

The problem is, the moderators this forum does have are already overworked. They are just not capable of spotting everything and anything untoward unless it is pointed out to them by another user - even then moderators have to choose what to focus their attention on. There isn't enough manpower on this forum to keep an eye on everything 24/7. Users need to use their own judgement a lot of the time.

In my personal opinion, the system could be a LOT better, but unfortunately this is the system we have and there isn't much we can do about it. The same thing applies with Trust on this forum. A lot of people think the trust system is flawed, and in some ways it genuinely is. But it's what we have and all we can do is make the best of it.

All you can do with users that are not playing by the rules, is use the "Report to Moderator" button under each post. We don't have any other power. Again it is not the best way to deal with a lot of issues, but it is the only approach we currently have.

these guys from Worldcore have a lot of negative comments, I honestly think this project is very somber

Worldcore run by Alex Nasonov is a FRAUD online financial company
 (https://worldcore.pissedconsumer.com/worldcore-run-by-alex-nasonov-is-a-fraud-online-financial-company-201709231104776.html)

" I have too got scammed the very same way like all these gents before me.I got ripped of for 150€.
I have worked with them for like 5 months without any hick-ups or problems. Then just out of nowhere I wasn't able to move my money from their account, my debit card wasn't working anymore, and their support couldn't been reached by their support system, email or phone. They keep saying on other forums that all these are fake reports, but my question is this: How come there are no so many "fake" reports for any other legitimate banks and financial institutions in the world? Like HSBC, LLOYD'S, BARCLAYS, PAYPAL, etc.
Personally, i don't care for my loss or my privacy (they tend to reveal all your private info's ones when you accuse them of a fraud), and I'm going to put a lot of heat on them online and offline in Check Republic. My lawyer is picking up all the documentation and I will setup a website for this case in next few days which will allow people to register and tell their story.
Good luck Worldcore and Alex Nasonov, you are going to need it.This post will be updated later on.
Review about: Worldcore Ultimate Debit Card.
Reason of review: Problems with payment.
I didn't like: Fraud, Theft fraud dishonesty zero customer service "

https://worldcore.pissedconsumer.com/worldcore-run-by-alex-nasonov-is-a-fraud-online-financial-company-201709231104776.html

Are there many negative reports and where are the positive reports? I did not see any ... Besides, are you the owner of the company? What is your role in all this?


in my country has ernst & young, so I know them, and that does not stop a company from being scam. The fact is that there are many negative reports

He is just a paid shill, who was hired by that scam company!

Here is the profile of this paid shill:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1175924

And here are his posts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1175924;sa=showPosts


All of them 183 posts are related to worldcore threads shilling. (there are no posts in other bitcointalk threads) In most of his English posts paid baboon is accusing all the world in Black Pr attack against fuckin worldcore. He is posting that bullshit over and over daily! Now I'm sure you will be accused too...

you are not the owner of the company and even then you are defending this company?

How can you tell if they're telling the truth? I mean, you've already seen the bad comments that people have posted about this company.

I just see obvious lie. If you've heard what are these guys saying all 3 weeks, you understand what that was about.  Also you cant understand what they saying in Russian, like they was saying that company not exist, then when someone shows that it actually exist, they say that Worldcore lying that they has PCI DSS, after you show that they have PCI DSS, they saying that this is fake PCI DSS. Each time it is presented as an absolute truth . Also links what they using like stopkrymov.com or group in Russian social network vk.com is self made BS. All that things are posted by few persons who I already mentioned before in this topic. Almost all of them are registered not more than month ago and already has 1000+ posts and all with accusation of Worldcore. And most of it so obvious FUD- like that photoshopping example.

ps look at mosprognoz, bambarmia, jemura writing style. So often they leave spaces before question marks and exclamation marks and sometimes other punctuation marks. It's not just 100% evidence, but that's one of a lot of things that I mentioned before I thought that they are one guy :)

pss So after you see theirs photoshop work you will believe that persons? Also this photoshop picture was used by "2 different persons" in 20 minutes :)

here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg23722160#msg23722160
and here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236259.msg23722598#msg23722598

Yes bambarmia has a special writing style, which allows him to expose fuckin paid shills, sock puppets and greedy scammy pieces of shit like you, that will support any scam that is paying out. I told you before, if you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, go and visit a fuckin doctor, instead of shilling in scammy ICO threads all day long. How much that scammers are paying you for your fuckin dirty job? Screaming GOOD and WOW for bucks? I heard that scammy shit many times before.

Yet another paid baboon with all his 56 shilling posts in scammy worldcore threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1166168 I just reported this real piece of shit to moderators with permanent ban request, due to false and unproved allegations. If you will not provide real proofs for community within 24h, I will report the link of your profile to my lawyer and local police you fuckin idiot.

Attention Boys and girls.

I created this user account as a precaution so that you won't troll me.

All I would like to say is:  I don't care!!!!!!

Almost all tokens had been sold and it the people who bought it received their tokens immediately.  And, as a bonus, you can trade on Ether Delta already.
So FUD or no FUD, SCAM or no SCAM, it's out there.  Not much more damage can be done by forum talk.  The power lies with the public now.

Sincerely Ed12345

                                        The list of worldcore scammers!

1. bit$

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1175924 215 posts, all of them about worldcore scam. (Most active one)

2. icoinspector

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1166168 84 posts all of them about worldcore scam.

3. FintechEu

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1067343 Topic starter and the head of scammers.

4. DrWolfy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=326671 7 posts all of them about worldcore scam.

5. Wirless007

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43712  7 posts all of them about worldcore scam.

6. OGK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16884 4 posts all of them about worldcore scam.

7. RathnN03

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18945 5 posts all of them about worldcore scam.

8. !Aaron

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=100296  2 posts all of them about worldcore scam.

9. Roberttwall99

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=61679  6 posts all of them about worldcore scam.

10. abrahambaldwin22

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35572 6 posts all of them about worldcore scam.
 
There are about 30 more, I'm just lazy to post all of them !  

Confused why you putting steal between brackets.

You mixing up "steal" with "steel"?