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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: stefek99 on October 09, 2017, 02:13:22 PM



Title: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: stefek99 on October 09, 2017, 02:13:22 PM
See the thing: https://gist.github.com/stefek99/3dad201004e81ad52dc16288a3a4c350

I was accused of spam.

See my post history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=194164;sa=showPosts

The only time I've shared the referral link was when someone specifically asked for it.

I'm genuinely worried that now I'll be withdrawn from various bounty campaigns, serious financial consequences.

It is possible to revert negative trust once the matter is positively resolved?


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on October 09, 2017, 02:19:53 PM
I was deleted a post the first week I was in the forum because I shared a referral link and I haven’t got negative trust. So, I wouldn’t worry that much.

I was warned in a private email that I had broken the list of unofficial rules that I should have read. The funny thing is, I had seen referral links posted before I did that and I have seen them after, without the post being deleted, even posts written by newbies, so there seems to be no coherent application of the unofficial rules.

P.S: I can see that you have red negative trust, unlike me, and my understanding is that that comes from lending issues but if it is just because of the referral link I would try to PM the moderator or whoever is in charge.


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: yahoo62278 on October 09, 2017, 02:33:01 PM
A moderator isn't gonna do anything for you. Trust isn't moderated. You shouldn't have spammed a referral link. You need to speak with TBZ


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: Lauda on October 09, 2017, 03:22:55 PM
I'm genuinely worried that now I'll be withdrawn from various bounty campaigns, serious financial consequences.
If your financial life is reliant on bounty campaigns, then you're an idiot and should not have access to those to begin with. As always, the rating is a consequence of your own actions.

It is possible to revert negative trust once the matter is positively resolved?
There's this little thing called a 'delete button' that's right next to a rating that you've left for someone:

https://i.imgur.com/U70YDVB.png



Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: TheButterZone on October 09, 2017, 08:47:58 PM
OP, please take a break from the internet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=194164

Lauda, it looks like OP's latest reply on my auction thread (https://archive.fo/y6Rxm) needs to be deleted too, unless they don't want to suborn perjury anymore (see PM screenshot at trust reference link) & will hire a shipping forwarder after all.


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: Lauda on October 09, 2017, 09:06:11 PM
Lauda, it looks like OP's latest reply on my auction thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2170694.msg22764567#msg22764567) needs to be deleted too, unless they don't want to suborn perjury anymore (see PM screenshot at trust reference link) & will hire a shipping forwarder after all.
I've taken a look, and in combination with what had initially happened as well as now I think the rating is warranted. Next time just make sure to archive the post/evidence using a website such as: https://archive.fo/.


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: TheButterZone on October 09, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Second post archived (https://archive.fo/y6Rxm) but not sure how to archive my PM box with search limited to 1 user's PMs.


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: Lauda on October 09, 2017, 09:51:10 PM
Second post archived (https://archive.fo/y6Rxm) but not sure how to archive my PM box with search limited to 1 user's PMs.
You can't archive something that a guest user (crawler) can't see. The only option would be to screenshot it and archive that screenshot, but that obviously doesn't prove a PM is legitimate. Not that I'd expect you to fiddle around with it, I just figured it was worth noting as some people see screenshots as almost absolute proof.


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: actmyname on October 10, 2017, 01:02:08 AM
I'm genuinely worried that now I'll be withdrawn from various bounty campaigns, serious financial consequences.
If your financial life is reliant on bounty campaigns, then you're an idiot and should not have access to those to begin with. As always, the rating is a consequence of your own actions.
Especially considering that OP is in the UK, this is surprising. Is it that difficult to get a minimum-wage job at a McDonalds, which would earn you more money than if you were to drivel away in signature campaigns? Have some dignity. You're in a first-world country, not Madagascar.


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: stefek99 on October 10, 2017, 03:46:46 PM
I'm genuinely worried that now I'll be withdrawn from various bounty campaigns, serious financial consequences.
If your financial life is reliant on bounty campaigns, then you're an idiot and should not have access to those to begin with. As always, the rating is a consequence of your own actions.
Especially considering that OP is in the UK, this is surprising. Is it that difficult to get a minimum-wage job at a McDonalds, which would earn you more money than if you were to drivel away in signature campaigns? Have some dignity. You're in a first-world country, not Madagascar.

I'm in the UK.

I work as computer programmer.

1 hour of my commercial billable time - should be enough to buy a month of food in a 3rd world country (eating bananas and drinking water).

Signature campaigns, content creation, social media - it adds up.

On a number of occasions I got better per hour earning that working in a job...

Additional benefit: educating myself about new projects while writing the articles.


•••

What happened - I placed the bid to rebuild the trust, to recover the relationship.

Unfortunately - one failure lead to another failure.

This the message I've sent.

In my opinion there should be some communication phase, no need to throw negative trust like that.

Quote
I'm sorry.

Again misunderstanding.

My initial post - that was deleted - was complaining about that I'm from the UK, that I also like gifts and surprises and that I did something unconventional on my FB regarding gifts, posted my virtual debit card etc... It was NOT the place for the conversation, the thread was for the auction only.

I did apologise for that.

Matter cleared.

•••

To re-establish the trust, I've placed the bid and I send the link to USPS "small box flat rate". I thought that what you say is "US address only, unless you sort it out"... I thought that providing link to the USPS with the exact product is good enough.

Apparently it is not good enough - I have some friends in the US who can accept the parcel, alternatively I can find some re-shipment company: https://www.myus.com/gb/

It's not an issue for me.

Can you please remove the negative trust? I'm still in "communication mode" - discussing all the options. We can still communicate.

18 USC 1622: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1622

> Whoever procures another to commit any perjury is guilty of subornation of perjury, and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Not a lawyer, please communicate with me.

Don't throw negative trust like that.

I've sent 0.03 BTC which is something like $143 now.

Please.

So far I'm losing on all sides - negative trust, 0.03 BTC gone, blocked on Twitter...

I want to have quiet and peaceful time rather than causing any trouble.

Recommended Solution - everyone wins - noone loses:
- forget the shipping, forget the box,
- because you have charitable thing in the footer, please hold the BTC
- if you can, please donate the money to: http://centres.iskcon.org/centre/iskcon-san-diego/ (they do a great job providing free food for people in need)
- please remove the negative trust, appreciate such factors as responsiveness, initiative, communication and low scale of misdemeanour

With respect and compliments, pure intentions at heart.


Title: Re: Is it possible to withdraw negative feedback once matter has been resolved?
Post by: TheButterZone on October 10, 2017, 07:03:35 PM
Fair warning of negative trust events were all there in the list of auction terms! Black and white, clear as crystal!

I've removed the rating now that 1) the BTC0.03 (locked to $143.51 USD at time of transaction per blockchain.info) has confirmed 2) you've said your friends in the US can accept the parcel (so at no point will I be signing my name under penalty of perjury after putting a "low value on the shipping form, to avoid customs")

I meant exactly what I said, not what you wanted me to have meant.

USA delivery address only
- the delivery address of the mystery box can only be in the USA.
100% up to you to find & hire a US-based shipping forwarder/reshipper if you're outside the US
- USPS is not a shipping forwarder/reshipper, it is the original shipping service of all the outgoing shipments I pay for, as noted in the Shipping: line of my terms. My original shipping service cannot also be the forwarder/reshipper you hire, a third/fourth party.

You give me too much to spend the time/money to reply to.

My prime directive is to liquidate my goods, so:
Please PM the USA delivery address of your friend in the US. Also, tell me whether or not they can hold the mystery box items for you to pick up the next time you're in the US (in which case, dimensions & weight for carry-on & checked luggage would need to be considered)
OR
if I need to keep the mystery box dimensions down to what you had PM'd: 8 5/8" x 5 3/8" x 1 5/8" (if it's to be these dimensions, of a small flat rate box, there are free ones at every post office).
OR
If you & your friend in the US ever buy each other gifts, you could just have whatever's sent to them be your gift to them, & they would give you a gift of equivalent value later. If you PM me "crack the mystery", I'll let you choose specific gifts for them from my inventory.