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Give me your opinion about… Can the blockchain be applicable for the medical sector? Explain your pros and cons please. Thank you. 

Applicable for what?
I think we can use the blockchain technology to store information about people`s medical condition.
Some people here were saying that the blockchain is not a very efficient way to store information.I don`t know why they say that.Do you have any project in mind,OP?
I can`t figure out any pros and cons.
Can you share with us your ideas,or you are searching for ideas for free.

It can be used to record the history of the patient for example. It's some extremely sensitive data, I am not aware if a data breach already happened in this field but if it happens it will be a big scandal.

With the cryptography and signature, those data could be visible only with the approval of you or a doctor, pharmacy, or something like that. I think It could also increase the efficiency of a healthcare system generally speaking.(payments, bills, whatever).

I don't see any viable ways of applying it to medicine. The Blockchain has a lot of perks albeit none that I can see in that specific area. As mentioned, patient information is too sensitive and private. Patient confidentiality would be pretty much useless if records were stored on the Blockchain.
Apart from that I'm not sure of any realistic applications. I know that in the U.K. The NHS is overworked and can do with drastic system framework changes (IT systems) but even so I don't see how the Blockchain is an answer to that.

Ptoy is doing a service on blockchain with patients data. Not sure If I'm right with this since I'm not a follower of that project, but if your plan is to make the medicine transaction to became more easier by using the blockchain network then I you can create a little delusional state between the drug dealer and drug users since they can easily get some drugs without a doctor's prescription. But if you consider to check each side to make this project run smoothly and cannot abide some laws then you must go seek for legal advice before implementing this project.

                                  in medicine field blackchain technology using for recording patients data. like pulse rate, blood plusher, hearth beat and other all information human body details recorded by in medicine. blackchain technology has great features like security and fast response and easy to using. for that reason more people using to this technology. in my country already using for patients purpose so we have to choose one best technology for our needs.

Why not? First, cryptocurrency is a convenience. By the way, you have raised a very important topic. I believe that in the beginning it is necessary to introduce cryptocurrency in such an important area of Medicine! But that's just my personal opinion...

In my opinion healthcare is a field which could benefit from blockchain technology.
Imagine you have all your history stored in a shared ledger, where doctors can access using your ID number. They could see if you have any allergy, which is your blood type, etc.

Nonetheless, it could have also some bad repercussions, mainly due to privacy issues. For example, insurance companies could inspect your health before issuing a policy.

You could also take a look to the following projects:
https://dentacoin.com/ (https://dentacoin.com/): blockchain used for dental treatments
https://robomed.io/ (https://robomed.io/): smart contracts used to pay for medical treatments

I believe a blockchain based system can become a very beneficial addition to the medical industry if they can use it efficiently. However I don't think making a proper currency for it would be that useful at all. Another concern I would have is the privacy of the patiënts. A public blockchain with all the information would never be implemented, since it would be a violation of the privacy of the patiënts.

Yes it can be use for the medical sector when it comes to the recording purposes. There's a lot of companies that are starting to adopt blockchain like the banking sector and in medical sector it's just the same when it comes to keeping your records you can apply blockchain technology with it. And every information which is needed for viewing can be seen immediately if someone wants to have an access about ones history or information.

The concept of blockchain can be applied to any sector,well theoretically.In terms of their practical acceptance,not many would rely on a technology to an extent where no third party that is a human is  involved.Otherwise depends on the sub-section of medical you're targeting.I think I explained Pros and Cons in one sentence.

This idea has been brought to the general public several times and everytime it is just another scam attempt.

I believe classical medicine in order to work properly there must be physical contact between the patient and the physician. There cannot be any sort of "telemedicine" for treatment - because treatment is not just prescribing drugs but also supportive care and the words of the physician which have a great deal of importance to the patient. Any app based treatment is also of no use and it is just a vaporware.

In blockchain technology there has been attempts to use it for medical records - I dont know how far that is possible and I dont like the idea at all.

If not scam,another failed ICO that couldn't change shit.


Touche.You just described my point in simple words.Although there are still ways to achieve the doctor patient relationship only on the blockchain but that would take ages to come into practice.
Idea seems good but it is not feasible.

Yes cryptocurrency can be applied to the health care sector, more than medicine if we understand it as the heal of diseases. In the health care sector cryptography and signature have a lot of advantages to record the history of patients and respect their privacy. Health conditions are extremely sensitive data that can be misuse to third parties and security in digital communication is essential.
There is also other applications of cryptocurrencies to the health sector: issuing ICOs can be a way of getting fund for research and develop projects that do not reach conventional fundraising.

there is possibility to apply in medical sector.

It can apply to medical records since Blockchain is decentralized and that can help us solving problem that we're facing in this sector. Critical information is not accessible when it is needed most which sometime is costing lives. I think with Blockchain we can make this info accessible anytime and anywhere.

It can definitely be used in the medical realm but so far no good ideas have come forward (PTOY included) that are realistic and provide a true benefit.  When something comes out that is directly affiliated with a reputable hospital, we'll know it.

In collaboration with Big Data it can make tremendous results by storign lots of medical records in Blockchain and making them secure

In my own opinion, the blockchain is a public legerr that ensures nothing is hidden in other to aid transparency. However, there are some things that are better kept private and one of them is medical records in other keep human decency and sanity if the medical records of an individual becomes if public knowledge, then we might have a case of mass suicide on our hands.

Area I see the blockchain working in the medical sector is on drugs produced where each and everyone of those drugs have been given a serial number and the moment I buy one or before I purchase it, I can go to the blockchain to check if its an original or a counterfeit product that will go along way in reducing the amount of counterfeits drugs in the market.

I think you can apply blockchain technology in the information about medicines and practices and its effectiveness with few actual documentations of the people who take it or undergo with a certain treatment without the need of disclosing names just name of the hospital or place and then if the doctor wants to know more information then he can just directly contact the hospital where the medicine is actually use or the treatment is performed. This way, doctors will have an idea if a particular sickness or disease has some suggested medicines if they don't have experience with it before.

Built-in theme. I have a question on this topic too.  My father is ill. He's got Alzheimer's. This is a serious violation of mental activity. Long time ago, we noticed , that cannabis slows the sickness and has the healing power on disease. But not everywhere you can buy. Now we live in another place where it is not legalized. It was interesting to hear your opinion as safely possible anywhere to get cannabis for treatment. Or should not even touch this topic?

The more transparency in modern day medicine the better and I believe the blockchain can provide that. 

doc.ai is new ICO which specializes in medicine. I think it can be very interesting

Blockchain great for accounting of any data. So any sphere where accounting of data is required could adopt blockchain technology. I'm talking not about huge number of unless ICOs in medicine, I'm talking only about data storage and accounting

I share your view that cannabis really helps to heal even the sick. But, as you rightly pointed out. Look on the Internet, unfortunately, not everywhere it is legal. Probably will be able to buy online.

First of all, blockchain is a data system, so if you want to apply it in the field of medicine, you have to determine that its effect is to store data and operate medical services with care. digit number. From the effect of it, you can develop a project according to your ideas.

In my opinion blockchain is SUPER-appliable to the medicine sphere in various cases:
1) It can help us to store doctor's portfolio safely and to kick out suspicious ones
2) It may help us to keep info about diseases and injuries and so on without a chance to put something fake inside

If anyone in this thread is interested in teaming up to build a healthtech [Suspicious link removed]pany, reach out to me. We're building a core team.

- Not until people start using blockchain based applications in their daily lives.

- Mate,no one trusts doctors blindly.People visit a particular clinic only after checking the reviews or family/friend recommendations.Case is even more secure if you're visiting a Government Clinic.

- No one fakes science.Why would they ? Ebola or other genocide stories are again subject to the respective conspiracies.

Don't remember the exact name but there was a blockchain project about safe medical data storage. I don't see any other usage of blockchain here. I think that you should work in this sphere for a long time to know what could be improved by such technologies.

Medical sector is one of the promising market and if you can integrate one other promising market like cyripto currency it would be a great project, keep working on that, sounds exciting.

I have seen a certain project which it did involve medical sector. As far as i remember it is on Bowhead project which you can access their site on here http://bowheadhealth.com/ but going back and seeing on their recent feedbacks they do have a bad reputation since they do make a bounty campaign but participants not being paid on the amount on what being posted.Going back on topic its really applicable on such sector which we can able to see that theres someone who did able to make use of it which i can see it does really have the advantage rather than on its cons.

 Another concern I would have is the privacy of the patiënts. A public blockchain with all the information would never be implemented, since it would be a violation of the privacy of the patiënts. :P :P

The BLOCKCHAIN technology as a whole indeed has many uses in the medicinal industry, like putting records of patients on the blockchain.

Let's not jump the gun and give the projects who have been in the development stages some time before they start showing us results. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of projects headed in this direction and lets wait on them to show if at all it could be fruitful. Indeed this is a really hard to practically implement idea but with time and effort, this could be a possibility in the future.

bitcoin is a digital money that functions the same as paper money. so in my opinion, bitcoin can be applied in any sector including for medical. such as in a drug factory, hospital, clinic and other medical places.
the possible thing to do is to pay all things about medical using bitcoin.

Such an option we had not even considered because it is terrible in our time to do with medication, for which you can obtain responsibility.

Medical experts that has knowledge on how blockchain technology works can raise funds for research and provision of medicine to the ruler populace through ico projects and assistant channel to eradicate a particular disease that may attack our societies.  There was an ico that was louch around August this year called carecoin, the idea was to connect patients to the nurses but they cloud not raise much fund as many people did not understand they intentions. Companies that are also into medicine business can open they payment gate to bitcoin and others altcoins.

When I was speaking about fake info in terms of medical sphere - I spoke about cases when people(under the influence of their personal interests) fake information about their health - for example, you don't want to go to army - so you're trying to find way to evade it, and "getting a disease" - is a way in this case; also students who were not attending their classes try to do the same thing as well

"MedCredits is the first blockchain powered platform connecting patients and doctors worldwide on a decentralized network."

-My opinion;

Quite frankly there's a tendency for end-users to abuse the usage of the blockchain technology. While it may have a wide range of application, the underlying principle should not be overlooked.

The blockchain is a decentralised ledger. Now that being said, applying that to medicine? That would require a refined research that solves a unique problem.

Of course!

The Blockchain is applicable for all the sector including Medical. It's safe, secure and fast.

Applying blockchain to a confidential and private information like health records may not work but you can use it to store other values which can be interlinked to another database.

sure it will work and ive seen some of these before that many ico 's in the past are using the blockchain technology with thier medical platform , not only medical but all kinds of platform like gaming, financing/banking, health, etc. blockchain technology is amazing and can give innovation to our economy and can help the companies to market thier products easily across the universe.

Cryptocurrency is a digital currency that uses cryptography for security, it is not issued by any central authority.In this modern world people are facing many medical issues, to overcome this difficulties, MIT graduate students researches are developing a cryptocurrency-backed technology. They are developing a system called Med Rec, for managing medical records that use the Ethereum blockchain.

There is tremendous potential for blockchain in the medical sector. The other day, we had a discussion with another startup that is developing wearable tech that measures a person's heart beat rate, blood pressure and saves that information on a blockchain so the information is secure.

We (from healthbase) are, however, working on securing our patient's data on the blockchain and also incentivizing it for the patients and care providers rather than allow the medical companies to use your data without your permission.

Privacy laws in Germany are extremely strict and our patients who come to our clinics are also extremely aware on this subject matter.

Concerning the statements in this thread about projects like these being another attempt to scam - we can only say it is rather unfortunate that it happened and it shouldn't have. We cant comment on the integrity of other projects out there that have failed in this space but here in Germany, we are scrutinized on every level as far as this project is concerned. One of our code advisors is from the Frankfurt School of Blockchain and he is known to be extremely selective about the projects he personally supports. We are also working round the clock with clinics and other well reputed healthcare experts in Germany concerning this project.

Our point is that there are serious stakeholders in this project and while (perhaps) the other failed projects were not maybe held completely accountable but we certainly will be and for us - failure is simply not an option. :-)

So all pessimism aside, there is potential for blockchain to change healthcare/medicine and it is just a matter of finding the right way to do so.

Yes of course. Blockchain be applicable for the medical sector since it applicable for banking sector. However blockchain can be use as a means of saving or keeping hospital tangible files and patient medical records.

Good idea, it'll be a a hit if all factories or pharmaceutical companies to pharmacy will accept coins or tokens for medicine.
But how would start the project? Build your own blockchain system? Ethereum based currency?

i think Blockchain has the potential to revolutionise how individuals’ medical records are stored. As a digital record keeping system where data is hashed onto the blockchain.

I think that Ethereum based currency would be the best solution because of the smart contracts, which are the best solution in this case. Well, at least that's my opinion :)

In the main financial newspaper of my country (Italy) last week came out an interesting article about the blockchain applications in the state sector. He talked mainly about possible applications in healthcare and the treatment of large masses of confidential data.

Can you please tell which ones are scams? I'm invested in quite a few of them

I really like Simply Vital Health. They seem to have the strongest and most legitimate team... PTOY might end up being a scam :(

Did you ever notice that none of these companies have actual physicians working for them? I don't understand how they can make a product for physicians without knowing what physicians like

This is only an issue outside the United States from my knowledge. Counterfeit drugs are usually sold from online stores in other countries

This is a very good point you bring up.

I'm invested in 5 different medical blockchain ICOs.

The first one I did was PTOY which I am feeling very iffy about.

I just went on bitcointalk today and found another medical ICO that looks like a scam. They have no real medical doctors on their team to advise how the product should be built. If you get through all their jargon, it's pretty obvious they are scamming. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2089073.0)

I do like SVH though. The team is very interactive and they have a project that can have a real application in the medical world.

I am looking at SVH and it says you have to donate 35ETH minimum ???

Can EMR systems be used with Blockchain technology?

The main issue hospitals have is getting hacked and paying millions for it. I've seen it happen a few times around my local hospital in the past few years.

Would you mind sharing that article?

Certainly block chain has an immense potential to improve the health care sector.
But will regulate it ? Gov or companies

Usually private companies regulate the hospitals.. govt only regulates government run programs

What a coincidence! I posted about that Hearth one being a scam today too. I went into their telegram group and asked a few questions and their admin privately messaged and belittled me. Their team is fake too.

Do you work in the medical field GreenRivers?

No I'm in the legal sector of Healthcare but my wife is an RN. Yourself?

I'm a practicing Internal Medicine physician. Been working for over 10 years now. I'm also an investor into cryptos and I'm hoping one of these medical ICOs will take off. I have about $10k invested in each one and I keep trying to find more to invest in. Whichever one takes over the industry will moon!

That's great to hear! It'll be wonderful getting some investment advice from a physician about healthcare ICOs. Just something cheaper than SVH, the 35 ETH minimum is too much right now

SVH will release that minimum soon. They're following US ICO regulations set by the SEC, that's one reason I love them so much. But they still don't have any physicians on their team which bothers me a little. It's similar to PTOY (which is most likely a scam) in that terms, but I really like the founder of SVH. She's a young woman with a bunch of enthusiasm and knowledge in the field.

I will update other medical ICOs I like here once I find some!

Thank you! I appreciate that!

This interesting thread made me think "Can donor information be safe stored in a blockchain and (how) would that give an advantage?"

yes you can, reward the work of medical assistance with blockchain token these are true value carriers in this case, dont bother going to a bank just look for a person interested in working in the medical industry,

so people thall will desire medical assistance will have to buy or aquire those token

this way a doctor can become a doctor and a jobless person can become an assitant without asking the banksters for their money.

it doesnt work however when the doctor doesnt take back his token for his services, so its better a bigger medical corporation creates such a token

it will still end becoming regulated, because why should single doctors be allowed to pay more medical tokens to their assistances than others.

regards

they come up with ico for driving vehicle why not medicine yeah,,

still funds and token credit, but basically very helpful, some projects have emerged and successful like PTT project (patientory) but indeed the response from the market has not been strong and impressed stagnan, drug purchase can be faster and service through third party connector can connect well by their customers and services. this is an excellent blend.

Of course, for count on pills

PTOY (Patientory) hasn't given an update in months - I'd be careful calling them a successful project, and this is coming from someone who invested heavily into PTOY.

At any given time companies could track their pills current location and inventory.

I believe it can... The world of technology is so vast now that it already has a great hold of almost everything.  Even in the world of medicine, cryptocurrency has already creep in... so there is no reason that it can also dominate the medical world

I somewhere wrote about this

that simple application is a consistent database for patients in need of being in the queue before taking any medication

and the inability of anyone to intervene

And how is that possible? I have several ICO which have gone rough and scam. Even some ICO are promoting to have developed complete treatment of cancer and other life-threatening diseases but they are just vaporware to draw people and are actually pure scams.

In our country government hospitals have the biggest load of patients and not the private ones. Even if a private company is associated to a hospital, how does that matter with cryptocurrencies?

Have you ever heard of something called Medical Records and Medical Record keeping section?

Medicine supply transactions and health support supplements will be faster for all countries when using blockchain and other crypto currencies, but strong implementations have not been achieved until now and some projects fail in the sale of ICOs such as bowheads (AHT).

there is a very important need for the system that connect with the service if you want to directly jump into the health substance, cannot be directly on run without a mature business structure.

introducing blockchain to medicine could also lead to an anti corruption campaign.

Such as : registering all science and medicine related papers to prevent corruption of scientific evidence and prevents political governments to corrupts it to suit their agendas.
mainly all controversial science discoveries, for exemple "genetic medicine" , "genetic science".

such a blockchain forced registration would prevent disaster like we have witnessed under USSR with Lissenko ( lissenkism ), claiming genes doesn't exists, and basically erased all scientific evidence of genes existence during this era. Problem which sent USSR 20 years back in this field. and slowed down their medicine drastically.
All this mess made most scientist review all of the papers written after his departure.

Had these informations been written in uncorruptible blockchain system, Lisenko could have never been able to claim the non existence of genes and rewrite medical and scientific evidence to suit its own agenda.

Also current scientists all over the world are facing a new political crysis since western scientist "believe" DNA doesn't affect IQ, or "races doesn't exist"
whereas in asia, chinese  company BGI genomics try to find the common genes shared by people of >140IQ. and other asian countries claiming races and IQ correlation.


basically the controvertial list goes on both sides and is just endless, with science and medicine being rewritten as many times as it can possibly suits agendas of current leading ideologies.

making medicine and science corruption free, would push medicine and science  years  if not decades ahead of our time.

I do agree with you Sandberg ........ but
Lyng in inhérent to mankind ........ from the origins
Does technology which never lies (blockchain) can have its place among human beeings ?????

Does anyone have good Healthcare ICOs?

SimplyVital Health looks promising. It is for accredited investors only + KYC.
Project is lead by Katherine Kuzmeskas, who some refer to as being the "Elon Musk of healthcare".

Anything new that's good?

Very promising that field with new applications.

Blockchain can be applicable in the health sector especially in the area of pharmaceutical and record keeping. Using cryptocurrency in the medical field gives easy way and authentication of drugs, I think it will be another way to reduce fake drugs.

I LOVE the SVH project. I spoke to Katherine on the phone and she's awesome! I highly recommend that ICO.

I also recommend HealthTRUST+ (www.healthtrustplus.io)

The team is run by actual physicians with healthcare experience and looks so solid. I spoke to the project lead Dr. Ferrara on the phone and he's awesome too!

I think blockchain technology can be applicable to other sectors like medical and several projects has come up to this effect. One of those projects that has come up is carecoin though it fail during ico but it has a great white paper that if you want you can still download and study how blockchain can be applied for medical. I think blockchain technology discovered has a great potential that has not been utilize yet and medical is one of the areas that is laying unutilize.

Blockchain is the technology and it is it is applicable for any sector. CryptoCurrency is based on blockchain technology. Blockchain enhance cybersecurity and change the way businesses make transactions. Transactions are irreversible.