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Hi Guys.
I just loaded kraken with 15k which is some saving I do have to play with crypto.
How would you invest it ? Which % on which crypto and why ?
Thank you :)

You can invest in all coin you like! But need more times seaching about this coin via google.
No body can help you! Only you with experience and feel will make a decision
 ;) ;) ;)

Research Waves.
Huge potential.
It has a EURO gateway, which no platform I know about has.
It has a built in DEX.
It has custom tokens with there own possible tx fees.

A lesson which can be hard to learn for newbies, is not to get too excited at the start. As you can see in the posts above me, people are recommending to throw money at all kind of coins. They most likely do that because they have those coins by themselves, and want the price to go up, so they can dump on you.

The smartest (however the most boring) thing to do is to buy only bitcoins with your money, and keep them sitting. It is for sure not exciting, but will be the most stable profit you'll get of any coins out there.

Also, if you really want to invest in something, don't follow someone on the internet blind, but do good research by yourself before you buy anything.

1. Buy bitcoin. 100% bitcoin and nothing else.

2. Don't trust anyone telling you to buy something else. If you want to invest in alts you have to do your own research.

You will miss some great oppurtunities when not investing in alts. Projects that will outperform bitcoin short term. But the chance that you buy into some scam is much greater.

For me personally, investin into bitcoin is wise option as we can see bitcoin show promising value over 7 years and this year , bitcoin reach $ 5500 which is insane value and nobody can't expected that happen but that's the fact

Investing into ICO may more profitable but the risk are greater than bitcoin

Buy bitcoin and sell it just before the bitcoingold fork, people are getting crazy about the fork and price is rising on an unexpected way. Sell half of that just before the fork and invest it on altcoins.

if i had a 15k euro i invest to altcoins these days.for long-term i buy waves,dovu,0x protocol token and at short-run i bought definetly Centra.i think on the november it become 3x

I think that you should diversify your portfolio and invest a portion of your savings in Bitcoin and another in altcoin. You should invest around 50 percent in Bitcoins as it is the world most popular crypto and will provide stability to your portfolio. You should buy various popular altcoin with the other half. You should invest in ethereum, monero, civic, siacoin and litecoin. All of these will increase the rate of growth of your investment and will help you earn more profits in the long run.

The best thing you could do is to properly research on crypto currencies in general. Making up your own mind is a big thing here in the crypto world because a lot of people would like to push their altcoin on you. There's a lot of fake/biased news out there so it's even more important to be very critical.  Because there are many scams out there I would take extra precautions and invest only in coins/projects that you would use yourself.

Wait for a Bitcoin dip.  Buy Bitcoin.  Hate to say it having just put chunks into ALTS, but, yeah.  Do that.

If you must buy ALTS, read until your eyes bleed, set a maximum profit price in which you'll sell (100%, 300%, etc), buy, and hold until that amount, or total bust.

With such money is only one way. The best option will be buy bitcoins for all and hold this coin. It will be the best profit for you but it is long term

13k in Bitcoin when it dips after the fork/s.
1k in 5 long term coins (I'd buy them now, or soon, as the prices are down for most of them)
1k in 5 well researched ICO's.

Invest in platform projects and DEXs. This projects have a huge growing potencial.

For me, bitcoin and eth are the safest options. But when I got in the game I was very excited and I couldn't just watch grass grow. So I started playing with altcoins everyday. Day trading if you will. Learned a lot about it. Highly dangerous though. Lost a little when the crash caused by the chinese happened. So trading analysis isn't everything like some people claim, not when it comes to crypto. I'm into mining also, looking to build a decent farm with my friends. Maybe look into hosting miners for other people. Do what suits you best, each venture in crypto land has its potential risks and rewards.

In my opinion you should spread a risk with invest of more than 1 coin.
%70 Btc and %30 Altcoin will be good ratio.
You should investigate more carefully before you make an investment to Altcoins.  

I think it is always better to buy some bitcoin with your first investment money. You can start learning from there following alts. And there are some nice alt investments like Ark, bat, ethereum so on. You should personally choose.

You can make long-term investments with Bitcoin, ETH, Monero, NEO, etc ... but to be sure you should invest in Bitcoin or or projects ICO has good platform. The profit margin will be very high when you invest in large scale ICO projects. If you are a newcomer to the market, the first thing you need to do is find out the previous project, and consult with the community.

I'd invest in iconomi , bytom & stellar , undervaluated

I really agree with you,
if I have that kind of money I might invest to bitcoin

Wow Guys. I have to say a MASSIVE thank you ! Many people here are trying to help me and i'm happy about it.

So, as you have been a great help and invested your time for me, I want to do the same, and explain you a bit more of what I've done.

Let's take a step back. I do currently have aroun 170k sitting between my bank account and paypal.

So from april I started to study investments and other possible way to use that money. I'm actually making around 15k a month with my job, so cashflow is ok.

I decided to invest around 90k for now, keeping 80k as cash. Cash is king, I learned this everywhere.

So I invested 45k in a diversified portfolio of ETF (some more risky, some less) between S&P 500, emerging markets, UK markets and some in Bonds as well.
I invested 5k in an ETF that replicates the gold trend.
Then I invested 10k in the forex with an automated software (which is performing shit btw as I expected... too nice make money sitting and doing nothing, but maybe possible).

So I had 20k left which, after long research, I decided to invest in cryptocurrency.

Yesterday I said 15k but I decided last night to rise up this to 20k.

I invested in a diversified risk portfolio:
Stable Currency
1 Bitcoin for 4.4k Euros
5.23 Ethereum for 1.3k Euros

Potential Good Return but still stable Currency:
2.5 Zcash: for 500 euros
40 Litecoin for around 600 euros
4 Dash for around 1k euros

High Good Return is the value goes up, unstable risky Currency
2230 Ripple
10.000 Lumen
1.000 Eos
This has a total of 1.5k Euros

ICO's
6 Ethereum (around 1.5k euros) invested in the Ico of Electroneum

Then Are left 7k, which I wait and I'll probably put in ALL or around 80% on Bitcoin but AFTER the Fork, so I'll buy them as a discounted price (maybe).
If i put 5k on bitcoin, the rest will go in other currency like monero and ICO's.

Hope this maybe help you guys and help me as well with some more advice from you :)

Well if you want to be careful you should buy Bitcoin and watch slowly the rise.
You can buy altcoins. Pick what you want, but first read and research and then buy.
I'm looking at Deeponion at this moment, looks good to me. Coin is on Novaexchange.

If youre interested in any ICO's, Id seriously consider Electroneum... even just 500 euro. Seen lots of good stuff about this.  It's going somewhere for sure. Please check it out and use my ref number if you decide to! CF9278 :)

Otherwise Bitcoin/Ethereum!

All sorts of people recommending Bitcoin. While I think this is overall a safe approach, with your investment, I would do a weekly or monthly cost averaging approach, i.e. do weekly or monthly trades with maybe 10-15% of your overall investment to cost average out. We are entering, I think, one of the most volatile phases in the crypto world and I would hate to see anyone losing 50%+ of their investment becuase of overall market correction. Stay safe!

if I were you, I'd be investing about 11-12k in ETH, and I'd be saving the rest just in case (you can invest more than 11-12k in ETH but i would be saving some money on the side just in case).

Buy bitcoins with that amount of investment. Hodl until December or March next year. I can actually suggest to you some altcoins but it seems to me that bitcoin is not yet through with its bullish behavior in the market right now. I think much profit will be coming from such behavior of bitcoin right now. We will see more surges coming.

Why would the price of ETH increase? It's a utility token and with all the ERC20 ICOs happening I can't see how there won't be substantial downward pressure until things cool down a bit.

Maybe once POS is up and running...

invest 10.000 Euros in bitcoin and spend remaining with girls and drugs lol.
Don't try to spent all of them in one night take your time life is short.

I would hold with that amount.

Maybe even hold NEO. With steady GAS income.

60% btc
15% eth
15% ltc
10% pick several promising altcoins

If you are banking on people's advise to know the coin you will invest in or trade in, then that is a very wrong move. Everyone will tell you the coin they feel right, but it is best you do your own research to know which coin is worth going into, which is really making some great moves and when to get in and sort.

15k is a pretty big money to just invest anywhere, without doing some research on your own, other wise I will advise you put most % in bitcoin, being the legacy coin, and even get some free airdrops in upcoming weeks,  and spread some other percentage in the few altcoins that can give you a quick boost after you have studied the charts to make your own decision or read through the thread to see  coins people are talking about mostly, so as to limit your research (now that most have dropped value is the best time to make a move).

Waves, ethereum, bitcoin!
Those 3 I think!

Hahaha +1 to what Undermood said :D :D :D

First of all, don't ask people you don't know what to do with your own money. This the biggest mistake you will ever make. I am hoping you won't take anything anyone says here seriously. Whatever is being said, take it with a pitch of salt. This is a diverse community from people around the world. You don't know how much experience we have in this space,don't know why we are in this space and you don't know what our values are. I can bet my legs, all the suggestions you get will just be mentions of what each person is investing in. You don't know if they are long term or short term hodlers.. This is very important when picking a coin to put your money in. I always say you need to know this before you put your money in because once your money is in you judgement can easily be clouded. I will share the coins I'm looking at right now and I suggest you do a lot of research on each coin you plan to invest in. My longterm coins(IOTA, Stratis,Ark EOS,0X)... Short-term-Bitcore - they are currently running an airdrop. You need a minimum of 10 coins on your wallet and you will qualify for 25% more.. The last airdrop is later this month

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The best thing for me is to divide your deposit and make an investments at young and promising projects (at ICO or post ICO stages).

Don't trust anyone promoting their coins.

Be smart invest at least 70% in BTC an the rest in some very well picked Altcoins which have future potential. The most importend thing is that you do the research for yourselve because on every Bitcoin Forum 90% of the people are promotion their coin.

Invest it for good. 15,000 Euro is a big money and think wisely before you invest it. There are a lot of coin that and ICO's offering there services to invest but make it sure the security of your money and it have a return of investment once you invest it.

No one can give you the correct strategy which cryptocurrency and how much you need to invest. This is very subjective. Today the coin can show a stable growth zenya tomorrow it may disappear and you will remain without money. To earn by trade you need to have certain skills and to constantly monitor the price trends. Beginner can not do it.

its a very good amount of money to start with
i would put 1k euro on 15 projects after a research

You need to do your own research. If you are just chasing the price, you will fold your hand as soon as the market moves against you, which it will. Look for the best people. What makes you think they will succeed? What motivates them to do what they do? What have they done in the past that makes you think they will be succesful at the task?
Most of these projects are going to fail and lose all of the capital that is put into them. You have got to believe in your own mind that whichever project you chose to put your capital at risk in will succeed.
A good rule of thumb, ask yourself this question "If the price of the shares in this project/company fell in half, but nothing else changed, what would I do?" If the answer is not, "Buy more with a grin on my face." Then you should not risk your capital speculating on it.
It is either a "Hell-Yeah!" or it is a "No!"

it depends what is your timetable if long term go for BTC, sure value

You should buy bitcoins immediately because the new fork is about to come and you will get bitcoin gold for the same amount you will be having bitcoins in your wallets. and after all this sell your btc gold and convert in bitcoins and hold for 6months. u will have a great profit.

Wait for bitcoin fork in nov, the prices are sure to drop. Buy btc for 30%, eth for 30% aswell and save some money just in case.

Dude, if i was you i would lose it for sure. But its so easy to tell others what to do. But here it goes anyway
First decide do you wanna be an investor, or a trader.
If you wanna invest then study the best promising projects, buy whenever you feel like it and hold.
If you wanna be a trader then instead of jumping right in, buy Bitcoin or better yet USDT
Then lay low and wait for a real bloodbath
Wait until everything turns red, -15 to -20% on BTC or ETH
Then go all in on whatever you want. You think its easy, but its not.

Buy and hold bitcoin for "lower" risk. Look around for promising icos if you can take higher risk (and potentially higher rewards in the short term, or losses).

Also before buying for bitcoin you should go in when correction occur. Bitcoin now is going on a healthy correction and can drop to 5,200usd as the support line. If it breaks that supprort it can go upto 4,800usd as the next support line.

If it were me I'd put most in BTC (at a nice dip in the chart).. but I wouldn't rush into becoming fully invested too quickly. How long have you been monitoring the crypto market? How extensive is your investment experience? I'd start small and gain confidence as you become profitable if you plan to invest in anything other than BTC.

Buy Cardano (ADA). It's a real deal..

https://whycardano.com/
https://iohk.io/projects/cardano/
https://iohk.io/projects/cardano/#team

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/iohk-launches-cardano-blockchain-ada-now-trading-bittrex/

You should leave me thn 50% into bitcoin, if you want to trade some altcoins. Good altcoins are waves, eth and stratis in my eyes. All three coins are good longterm investments!

Just buy Bitcoin

I think you have your answer:

Buy BTC after the price dips, should be coming soon in a couple weeks to a month.


And I will just repeat what others have said:

Don't trust what other people say or at least take it with a very tiny grain of salt.
If you absolutely NEED to put some money in an altcoin, I would say take at least 3 weeks to research it yourself to come to your own conclusions.

splitting is quite good but if you already got some knowledge about trading better to stick with btc for a while correction is ongoing and for sure
just allow the fork to be completed and then lets see if what would happen right after.

Whatever people tell you to do, do your own research before investing in anything. Bitcoin has been pumped because of the coming Hard Fork. People think to get some free money and therefor buy btc to get free bitcoin gold.

I think it is smart to use this altcoin dip to accumulate some promising altcoins. I advise everyone to look into SONM and BNB. I think these two coins have big room for growth on the long run. Please quote me on this and come back next year and u will thank me.

If you have this money and you are willing to invest this it is good for you to make a wise decision find the correlation of two or three currencies and invest in that during this time you search for the prices up and down of that currencies and when find some appropriate time you can make your profit through this. Once you start profitable investment like this you will start searching more about trading and investment.

I would invest in Electroneum ico ( https://my.electroneum.com/join/F5D3E5 ).
It sounds promising. you can do your research about it and decide. I bought some.

It is not only bitcoin to invest in, there are many great projects around that have the potential to be very big just like bitcoin in the future, if all these forks for people who want more money and power keeps coming I dont know about bitcoin, the altcoins at this stage can give you definitely higher returns, although bitcoin in the future will only rise up, I think eventually Amazon will start using bitcoin as a payment method.

wait for next btc down after hat buy btc and wait to 2020  ???

You can start by investing in a good ICO or a bright future quality coin. Do not forget that you must be patient if you want to do better and make money in the future.

If you want to put them into cryto consider diversify the portfolio, e.g 50% BTC, 30% ETH, 20% Alts, or 40% BTC, 30% ETH, 30% ICO. Also invest gradually over time so you don't hit a recent peak. Following twitter and youtube talk will help so you understand the reason behind the fall and rise and make informed investment decision.

I would advice you to invest everything in BITCOIN.

Best is to wait for a dip and get bitcoin, maybe for 75%. And 25% Ethereum. These would be the safest investments. Or check for yourself what would be a good and safe altcoin, so you spread the25% over Ethereum and this altcoin.

you can invest some ethereum and bitcoin , i think this two coin have more stable prices and hold it in long term no problem

also waves and decent are the second choose

Hi Guys.
Again thank you so much for your kind words/advice and the time you invested on me.
I replied in page 2 about how I've invested by now, so I can copy/paste it here for new people who will comment

I invested in a diversified risk portfolio:
Stable Currency
1 Bitcoin for 4.4k Euros
5.23 Ethereum for 1.3k Euros

Potential Good Return but still stable Currency:
2.5 Zcash: for 500 euros
40 Litecoin for around 600 euros
4 Dash for around 1k euros

High Good Return is the value goes up, unstable risky Currency
2230 Ripple
10.000 Lumen
1.000 Eos
This has a total of 1.5k Euros

ICO's
6 Ethereum (around 1.5k euros) invested in the Ico of Electroneum

Then Are left 7k, which I wait and I'll probably put in ALL or around 80% on Bitcoin but AFTER the Fork, so I'll buy them as a discounted price (maybe).
If i put 5k on bitcoin, the rest will go in other currency like monero and ICO's.

Hope this maybe help you guys and help me as well with some more advice from you Smiley

Hookers and blow.

If you need to come here and ask what to invest in then it's better off in your bank. Common sense will tell you that every person will shill the coin they have as they're looking for people to buy to pump the price.

Very good 3 lovely ideas. The first will give you back airdrops with free cash, the second will make you earn big once the prospectus coins get pumped back before or after the fork, making you to earn very large percentage of profit now when most of them are down, and the last one, if you can watch out for the team might really be very great too, but I'd consider 1 & 2 the more right now if I were the OP.

try to invest in the electroneum presale ICO and surely you become happy to your investment, crypto world have money option choices where do you want to invest you many you need to learn how to invest and get skills to avoid losses of your invest.

I think you are putting the cart before the horse. Your first asset in crypto is not money, but knowledge of which coin will be the best for you. The general rule of thumb however (if you don't know what to invest on) is to put your money on bitcoin for certain period without check the prices all the time.

Invest an important percentage (I'd even invest onto 75%) of your budget on Bitcoin, leave the rest to invest in ICOs that seem promising and profitable in the short term.

You can invest in crypto market because at this moment crypto platform very fall down.I think waves is best crypto now & waves platform day by day improve. Ethereum is pretty good this coin future is so much bright.

I would advise you to invest in: BTC (25%), ETH(25%), LTC (25%) and the remainder (25%) to spread among the promising Ethereum tokens.

don't just put all this money in one coin try to diverse in at least 5 coins

75-80% Bitcoin and the rest spread between alts and promising ICOs.

I wish i was starting back in may to just put in btc, ltc, eth or smth like that and just hold. Its really time consuming and stressful to search for next big thing and to trade. Better just to set and forget. But thats just me

Even for someone that tells you to buy 100 % bitcoin i agree but make a research even for bitcoin as well.
i read someone 13k in btc and other to alt and i agree. but even for 2k do not stop making a good research.

15k Euros  :o, maaaan. If I had such amount of money i would invest in NEO. It's like to make a deposit in a bank, but you'll get much more profit because of free GAS.

Wait for Bitcoin Gold fork, the price will drop. Buy 3 Bitcoins and with the rest of the money, buy Ethereum. Wait a few years and you are all set. ;)

This is really the wisest option I can ever consider. Altcoins are good, but sometimes, just focusing your attention on a single coin with more prospect and the first movers advantage with the largest market cap is just safer than gambling it into other altcoin.

ETH too aint bad as it has been solidly doing its thing, and with the upcoming upgrade might get something good coming. Every other investment into other altcoins should not be much at all.

If you are looking to invest in a upcoming crypto you should check out Propthereum.io. They are an asset backed cryptocurrency and will be purchasing A-grade property worldwide with proceeds raised from their ICO. This will generate a rental income and underlying value for the PTC token holder. The great thing about this is that the coin will always increase in value.