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With bitcoin value increasing to new heights every day or week, is long term investment of bitcoin in alts no more? Because with the increase of value in bitcoin, all alts suffer and their value in bitcoin decreases even if they are stable enough to keep their value in dollar sustained.

So all one can earn from such long term trade is a loss in bitcoin.

So, is short term trading alts the only option or even that is too risky for now and holding could be the only option.

And for buying alts, one should use dollar instead of bitcoin.

The presence of so many alts and tokes are actually ruining the crypto currency market. The amount of investment bitcoin should have received, is getting divided due to the presence of so many alts. So bitcoin is not growing as desired. However, the point you raised is completely valid. With increase bitcoin value, the alts are getting devalued compared to bitcoin but not compared to USD. So it is better to use alt/usd pair for trading instead of bitcoin. But I truly think that so many alts are not worth having in anyone's portfolio. There are only few alts which are actually good and technologically superior than bitcoin. But other alts are mostly worthless.

Bitcoin: yes.
Alts: no. I don't hodl alts more than 1 month. New alts on the market every day. There are always some alts better than others. If I don't see an alt that is good to invest I'll hold bitcoin and wait for the right moment to join.

I don't chase the market price. I learned many lessons on this market. Hold bitcoin is my top 1 priority.

Buying bitcoin and selling bitcoin is still profitable. Why do you insist on moving funds to altcoins? Effectively you are selling away bitcoin to buy altcoins. If you have faith in that altcoin then by all means do so but that does not mean price will rise like bitcoin for that specific altcoin in future.

Now there are still methods to do short term bitcoin trading as well. Trading at a difference of 100$ in price is worth it and you can do that too. It does not mean that there will be loss in bitcoin - its totally your own methods of trading and analyzing how you can make profit out it.

So far as altcoin is concern, the old days from investing and holding to it is not much for now as the bitcoin price skyrocketed its price day by day and ICO scammed doesn’t help but give bad images to every token created. I hope there is some way on limiting the abusing team on this matter.

Forking is also one reason it won’t prosper as of now and I’m doubting it would change this year. I have my own holdings but soon I’ll be honest, I will exchange it for bitcoin if nothing will change.

I disagree. Although altcoins become worth less Bitcoin per Altcoin when bitcoin rises, they are still able to rise a lot in their value in USD.

Besides, in contrary to what your title suggests, Bitcoin can still be a worthy long-term investment. If it becomes a regular aspect of our lives, it could reach a worth of multiple millions of dollars per Bitcoin, which would mean a possible increase of TENS OF THOUSANDS PERCENTS! Even though altcoins have more potential to grow, as they can grow tens of thousands of percents in just a couple months, without such inlikelyness to have joined the game, they are much riskier too. The risks involved are great.

Therefore, I think that Bitcoin is still the best way to go for Long Term Investments, if you can't find a really worthy Altcoin you're such of which will grow a lot in the future.

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a simple logic that many people do not understand about Altcoin existence.
Bitcoin is a symbol of the cryptocurrency itself,and altcoin created as a tool/way to earn Bitcoin from their service,offer and others.
Altcoin will exist as long as Bitcoin exist and have a value,
no matter what will happen,it will exist forever as long as we can see Bitcoin.
because people will never satisfy with all that they have and still find a way to make/earn it.
that is why,even though Bitcoin price is surging.Altcoin will always exist and some alts will be die,but another one will appear to replace it as a role for earn Bitcoin from others.
so,altcoin will never lose its value if Bitcoin still exist

and about valuing their alts using dollar,
i think it's depend on the trader themself,which one will they do and what will that do.
for a longterm,it would be better for valuing it to Bitcoin.
because Bitcoin price will always keep increasing.

I don't think it makes any difference if the price of Bitcoin is rising to do long-term investments. And i also don't think people do long-term investments in altcoins. It is only Bitcoin that is worth investing long-term but not altcoins, and if the price of Bitcoin is increasing, that is a good thing for investors.
A person buying altcoins with Bitcoins does not need to worry about the growing price of Bitcoin, as the value of his trade will still be the same if the price of Bitcoin increases or decreases, and he will have the same amount of money invested if converted to dollars.

Altcoins is really for short term investment. There's no real alt that is much better to hold longer term than bitcoin. That's why I don't want to trade altcoins. I try to stay away with the market for quite some time now except for few tokens that I can't sell because the value has lost 50% already.

Bitcoin is really the only crypto's good for long term and for short term. I have seen traders who do bitcoin trading everday, sometimes they would win a lottery, sometimes just a few dollars. But it is ok as long as you you gaining profit. But if you hold it least say last six month, I'm sure you have more than double your investments already.

you think like a desperate person,. the value of bitcoin will never be unstoppable,., bitcoin value will keep rising as usage and mining are depleted.,. but it is only a reliable altcoin in short-term trading., because if we rely on bitcoin we must have at least 1 btc to do short-term trading..

Altcoins trading is now mostly taken to earn money since faster fluctuatation in the chart of any altcoin. Now BCH price growth is good than other coins so choose this coon to trade would be best.
Since bitcoin price rising everyday it is now has to consider as short term and long term investment for the bitcoin buyers. After purchase, hold certain amount in your wallet itself for a year. It will truplecthe cost from now.
Then you will get reward for the bitcoin gold which is gonna split on November.

Of course you can still grow your bitcoin by investing your bitcoin in to alt-coins, there are many alt-coins that have grown by more than bitcoin has in the past year or more and that is evidence that there is still plenty of opportunity.

This , you are talking about the disadvantages of ALTs because of the progress of Bitcoin. The title says something else. As soon as I read the title I had a whole lot of things to say against the topic. But now since you are talking about ALTs , then your right. And buying ALTs with dollars is obviously much Profitable then buying it with Bitcoin.

Sooner or later the moneys flowing back to alts

From your point my friend it sounds that long term holders are losing hope about their holdings, but think about these, those high potential coins will remain no matter what happens, and its because bitcoin is increasing of course the time will also come that those alternate coins will rise and pump up so just sit back ang relax.

Probably better idea would be to invest in bitcoin and hold it instead of buying altcoins and watching them decreasing in value - but i could be wrong, don't take this as advice.
In my opinion yes, but you can do short term trading with bitcoin too, also i don't see holding altcoins for long term as option.
Irrelevant. If you have 1000$ there is no difference in buying altcoins directly with them or first buying bitcoin worth 1000$ and then buying altcoins with bitcoin. It is like exchanging dollars to euros to pounds - or just exchanging dollars to pounds. Also if you think buying altcoins with bitcoin is waste of bitcoin/too risky/any other reason - there you go, you answered your question.

Well, the rise in value of Bitcoin really affects these Altcoins but what can Bitcoin do?

A true Crypto shouldn't depend on any other Cryptocurrency for survival.

The nice thing about this Market is that no Central authority can manipulate things to favor a particular coin. Everycoin gets the value it deserves.

I don't think this is true, there are many great alt-coins still that are growing more than bitcoin!

Altcoins were never considered as a long term investment by cryptocurrency traders because they rely over bitcoin. Sensible traders always shift their investment from altcoins to bitcoin whenever they feel a rise in price is about to happen, so the altcoins suffer a huge downfall.  
Although long term trading of bitcoin is always preferred over short term trading but in case of altcoins it is better to do short term trading, because altcoins are highly volatile and you never know when it will going to dump.

Yes, trading of cryptocurrency is a vice versa situation and to avoid the risk of loosing your investment short term trading/investment of altcoin and a promising ICO is the best while long term investment of bitcoin is also the best. But you can do some short term trade when the price surge aswell for another chance of quick buy when there's dip.

Yes i agree with you to some extent, that altcoin long term investment is a not good idea for now,because the bitcoin value is increasing day by day and because of this many altcoin's value have been decreased. you can buy the alt with usd rather than bitcoin. Actually there are many altcoin being introduced out of which only few of them are doing good with their technology other are just worthless and due to this bitcoin is gaining high value than the other altcoins value, which is affecting the long term investment.

In the presence of alts bitcoin investment is getting low and bitcoin has more potential than other coins out there . But still many people invest in alts as they think one day it will overcome bitcoin. But is is very difficult for alts to rise as its price is also affected due to prices of bitcoin if bitcoins prices are lowered than alt-coins will also face a same problem and all other coins as bitcoin has become a center coin for exchange for most f the alts and other coin. Most of the people buy coin by using bitcoin and this to helps it.

in my opinion, doing long term investment in altcoin can be work if we choose the right altcoin and we know about the project will be rise in future. I know that with increasing of bitcoin price, altcoin is suffer and can not increase at all but in some day after bitcoin price can reach the stable price even if its just for short time, altcoin will reach the position back and in that time, I think our investment will give the profit to us. short term trading will be another option to still get the profit but like I said before, we need to choose the right coins.

We only see a growing number of altcoins, however it will not imply that BTC long term investing is not profitable in any way.

I believe that bitcoin will always be a good investment in a long-run, perhaps a constant trading of certain coins will make the altcoins stable as of today.

AFAIK No one is going to Hodl an altcoin. just an opinion.

That sooner would be like one century and later would be like thousand centuries. Do not get me wrong and I am not mocking you or criticizing you, but let’s just put the facts at the top of our personal likings. I am not saying that altcoins are not worthy of anything or can't grow.

Bitcoin is the first digital currency, people trust it more, it has the scarce supply and above all it is the benchmark for all other crypto coins. Nothing can replace this coin.

Price fluctuation of bitcoin has been a part of Trading for a long time now, so this kind of statements are nothing new but i understand where you're coming from.

I always believed that altcoins were not meant to be a long term invesment, especially if you compare them with bitcoin. It is true that some altcoins are becoming worthless to hold as each day the btc price rises, but as long as bitcoin exists there's going to be a space for an old altcoin or a new altcoin to grow and keep its value.
I'm pretty sure that for some people it's not that long term investment of bitcoin in alts is no longer exists, it's just becoming more and more difficult.

I agree if you say to do hold, because if I have to be honest myself feel quite confused to trade in this situation. the more coming is just the fear and panic.

Yeah there are some good altcoin are available in the market but investing them on long term is not gonna give that much profit because the growth rate of any alts is very very less when compared to bitcoin.Bitcoin growth rate is very high it reaches $ 6000 mark in last days it is becoming more and more popular and stable.It attracts more people towards bitcoin to make them invest on it which makes more demand on bitcoins which still increases the price.

I just start learn... Good Example from u, i will control to be not greedy~ Thanks

 There is no way that we can deny the importance of bitcoin as way of investing for the long term. In fact, bitcoin is the m;st preferable coin in the world of crypto currency if you want to go for long term investment. You can never ever think of this thing that bitcoin is no longer used by the investors for long term investment. If we look at the graph of market price of bitcoin, then we’ll come to know that it is the best option for long term investment.

I agree that with the fluctuations of btc market then short-term investment is more reasonable and as you say, it is also more risky. But I believe that long-term investment is still a good profit for us. If compared to the previous time, btc prices have increased a lot and that is the opportunity for investment ,both long-term and short-term.

Holding BTC and waiting altcoin are good choice, if we buy altcoin when btc sideway, btc is down then, we lost many monney

If we see the past record of all the coins present in the world of crypto currencies since the time it was introduced, it is none other than bitcoin which is the best coin in the world so far. Bitcoin holds a very bright future and the way its market price is increasing, I must say that bitcoin is the best coin if someone wants to go for long term investment. You only need to be patient and keep control on your nerves, bitcoin will help you make very much rich.

Yeah, one side Bitcoin price is increasing, on the other hand, i have lost so much in investing alt coins..

Ya it is so true that even good Altcoins are also getting suffered but it is due to Bitcoin price rise, that is why no one wants to buy this coins in Bitcoins but it is much better to buy in Dollar but in comings days we will see some good news in altcoins which will boom the price high.

Your observation is very much correct and at the same time, alts developers needs to up their games. The reason is because the people dealing in the trade are human beings which is expected that they react to events as they see it but unfortunately most developers just go to bed after the initial ICOs rather than releasing updates, ensuring time lines are met but that's not what they do and when that happens, there is no value to be gotten from investing in such and that means that people begin to shift their interest where they can get value.

What can be better than holding on bitcoin? Mnay people become millionaire by doing this just. The period of their holding based upon many few years so it proves that BTC is actually menat for long term investments. Actualy, bitcoin is also the best for short term investments because no altcoin has such a great potential of multiplying as bitcoin has but the profit price enlarges with time. So it is upto investor whether he wants more money or less.

It is not just your opinion alone but a reality for millions of crypto users. Yes, everyone who is somehow linked with crypto market is well aware of the fact that bitcoin is the best coin for long term trading and without bitcoin the survival of crypto market is no possible. As far as holding bitcoin for long term is concerned, it is crystal clear from the recent increase in bitcoin prices that it is going to continue this journey till the existence of digital currencies.

I think as the BTC price rises 1 sat is going to actually start becoming too high for more and more altcoins (its not quite a problem yet). I hope LTC or other "top 10" coins with a lower $ value hopefully get be used more as a base to offset this problem.

I'm not so sure that investment opportunities for BTC are completely gone in the wind now as many people suspect that there is a lot of room to grow (lots saying it will reach 10k) but I do think the alt coin investment/trading against Bitcoin is going to become less viable as time goes on. Even solid alt coins like Eth are taking a hit from the rapid rise in price. It's unsustainable for certain coins at the moment. Time will tell I guess.

It s okay to keep Bitcoin
It s also better to keep altcoins.

Alrcoins have its function
I ll buy those cheap altcoins after BTC forking

I ll invest in both BTC & Altcoins.

If you cant invest big and want 100 or 200x then it's better to invest in altcoins or ICO's. You can't make a huge profit with Bitcoin now. So it's better to keep some and invest more on altcoins.

Yap and better be careful on ICO's you are investing because not all can be very profitable. But nonetheless altcoins now adays are good for investing. And even mining for some reasons. Maybe the hardfork is the most important for bitcoin horders right now but after hardfork, people should be back at finding a good altcoins out their. Even tokens now can give big protits, you just have to invest in the right one.

You cant be sure since there are traders or investors do really think off on holding altcoin for long term purpose but actually i do really see this stuff to be good on short trades because the volatile is high and the value is still low which it can really potentially give us good profits and the thing about long term btc investment it is still worth it thing to do but dont expect that you would able to get 2x-3x considering on its current price its not really possible at all already.For now im do actively doing shorting on bitcoin.

Right. As Bitcoin is constantly increasing, altcoin can not keep up. Altcoins are constantly falling down but looking at Alts / Usd does not change much.
At the moment I'm going to buy altcoin with Bitcoin. And wait Bitcoin down. Then Alts / Btc will increase. I need to increase the amount of Bitcoin.

Holding altcoins is simply waste of time according to me. We cannot assure that this coin will increase in future and we cannot able to confirm that this coin will be long last in the price chart. For traders or holders bitcoin is the best option for the investors who expect good profit in future.
Don't short your bitcoin try increase amount you hold in bitcoin and exchange it for fiat too. That will cost more.

Just always keeps on reading news and updates regarding to this project no questions about the possible rise up of this coin in the near future as there's a lots of room for innovations and more people see the big potential of having a success in this coming year,.

No it isn’t. You don’t have to be panic and you don’t have to think that bitcoin will make your fearful. Be brave and face this dip. Bitcoin have been developing since 2009 and till now it has faced so many hard forks and dips.

But nothing have made it down to zero. It always rehabilitate and come out with more profits. So don’t fear and hold, it will surely shoot up and make you rich.

Yeah holding altcoins too long is very risky as no one knows when the price will crash but if you have invested money in bitcoins and if you hold it for a long term then you will surely make huge profits from it as price will continue to rise according to the time passing by.

Greatly depends on how much returns you want, on long term investing big in bitcoin is a good one, short term investing in some good altcoins will give definitely more profit.

At the top of the list, there will always remain one coin and that is bitcoin. Bitcoin is and will remain the best coin for long term investment especially. The way bitcoin is making such a good reputation, things are going to be in very much favor of bitcoin in the coming days. There is no doubt in this thing that holding of bitcoin is the most profitable thing to do right now. You need to believe in bitcoin.

I do not think that holding altscoin is to waste the time. because there are a lot of good altcoins who have very good future , for example etherium is the best altcoin for trading. it is in fact providing opportunities to people to make more and more money from trading altcoin. To me i personally have invested a good amount of money in altcoin, in fact i am holding more than 5 altcoin in present time, and i am hopping that it will give me a good profit after some time.

In fact it is always worth to invest in bitcoin for long term, I think long term investment is the best option for bitcoin. In long term invest I think the chances of losing money is very rare and there are always good opportunities to make good amount of money. Long term investment is even better for such people who do not have any experience in short term investment, because in long term investment you do not need to remain as active and study the market on regular bases.

I definitely agree with you, Bitcoin will always be and will stay on top despite of its challenges. I believe in Bitcoin and I will be holding it for more years to come as well. It did prove us wrong when China decided to ban ICO's and exchanges but it did prove that Bitcoin is better and still keeps on increasing its value.

Investing in altcoins is not good at the moment. If you are expecting a huge market growth of 2x to 10x in just few months like those in March 2017, then this is not the right time. Bitcoin is running so fast now and altcoins cant hold anymore. Thats why fast pumps and dumps in Bitcoin in BTC will make the alts fall from its position. Better stick with BTC for now.

There are types of alt coins that performs very well in the market, Be selective in choosing alt coins, There so many types of alts that are no longer active in the market. and if you are smart enough to choose alt coin based on their chart performance then precisely you will also yield a good profit. Bitcoin in any field like long term and short term investment are still consistently effective, As we've witness in its historical performance its constantly good performer, No doubt bitcoin is a good investment in any field.

Bitcoin investment would still grow
Bitcoin would be still the king of crypto land within next year,
I dont know in detail

It is grow by trading volume and market cap, Bitcoin ll be still an investment

BTC is the king,
if BTC falls then altcoins is falling.

It is likely that crypto land is tied to BTC.
BTC is still a good long term investment

Alts are definitely offering a better alternative to BTC if you're new in the crypto space and have virtually no BTC. At the moment with some research, you might land on a real diamond project and get a 1-3k return on your initial investment, which in the short term, is almost impossible for BTC to happen. Alt's are just offering a different ecosystem and I don't think this is a bad thing, many are saying that anything beyond bitcoin is worthless, but there are so many projects out there that offer so many solutions to today's problems, that some of them are meant to survive. The tricky part is finding which one's will, but if your analysis is correct and that project really becomes what it's meant to be, it will very likely make you rich, or at least offer you an income that was beyong any other expectation you would have in the traditional investment securities. Keep BTC as a hedge and buy into altcoins to increase your potential return, my suggestion is.

Some of them are receiving their death sentence pretty soon, no doubt about that, while only few of the strong ones will last eventually. It is long overdue for some of the alts to get out of the market anyway. However, like I said, all alts cannot die and some of them will still thrive.

It is understandable that as the value keeps rising, most of them still keep suffering and it is just best to hold what you have now in BTC so you don't keep losing on the alts pending when everything will get stabilized.
However, long term BTC investment still remains and you can buy no matter how little cause the little you buy today will amount to something big tomorrow. No doubt!

Selection is very important. There are some altcoins that are just good for pump and dumps and there are some groups where someone calls the shot and you just see a huge spike within a short split of second for the coin. These are shit coins and should not even be dabbled into. It is best to find coins with a good project, coins with good dev, coin with huge support and coin with future to trade with. This is a good way to invest and diversify one's portfolio for those who feel bitcoin is too high to get into which I don't see as such.

I really think there are two diferente angles to look at this. One is pure profit in FIAT. I think the market is hard to beat and it will not be easy to gain more with alts speculation than you do in BTC. Another angle is the technology and market of alt coins and tokens projects. We don´t know wich ones or even if there is any already born but some blockchain projects will be huge. So diversifying and holding participations in such projects will be very good in the future.

I don’t really think so that long term investment and that too in case of bitcoin is no more. In fact, bitcoin is very much popular just because it is very suitable option for holding and long term investment. These are all the misconceptions which are just confusing us. The way bitcoin market’s price is increasing with each passing day, I think that it is the best option to do long term investment.

But we are all in for the money isn't it? Admit it or not. That's why its really really hard to hold on your coins specially at the price today. $5500, $6000, $6500 are all mental barriers now. I still try to hold as I can, however, it the opportunity has presented to me to get and cash out huge profit, I might take it and will try to just re-buy when bitcoin price is at low point and discounted price. I think this is the sentiments of most traders now, can't resist to cash out bitcoin with this ATH prices today.

Eth has always tried to chase bitcoin and is fond of standing next to it. After bitcoin, eth is the most suitable coin for investing your money and even better than eth is waves. Eth is not better than waves in any regard. Bitcoin is the only coin which is biggest market holding coin. Bitcoin should be your choice for making bug money in the crypto market. Let us all stop wasting money on other coins.

I think the majority of people trade alt coins only to increase their bitcoin; I personally think that holding an alt coin for more that 15 days is a bad idea because a lot can happen to the btc price in that time. and it seems like the majority of people think this way, when btc is on the rise everyone is quick to jump the bitcoin wagon and sacrifice the alts they have that's why in a lot of times when btc is rallying alts drop. alts have no future, not all of them at least

Sure, ICOs have the possibilities of having a huge increase as time goes on but that does not mean a lot of profit cannot still be made with bitcoin based on what one can afford.

We all don't know what the peak value or ATH of bitcoin will stop at, so if it is possible to have some of it, diversify the portfolio just a bit, then i see no reason why. However, investing in ICOs should be something one should be careful of as most of them can still end up failing, so it is a higher risk.

I wouldn't say that with the bitcoin price raising, altcoins drops. You need to differentiate the reasons why bitcoin price raise. Is it natural growth in demand, any particularly good news or is it like for example right now, a cheap way to multiply your money. People are now selling all their altcoins to have money to buy bitcoins, because they will get free forked coins. That's why the altcoins are now low, and bitcoin high. After the forks are done bitcoin price will maybe drop a bit, while altcoins will raise. From that point, if there is any other big news, the bitcoin and altcoins can raise in value together for some time.

The main reason why altcoins can not increase its price is that people are only focusing their mind and efforts in bitcoin and its fork. I have a strong feeling that in their heart, they still want to buy altcoin but unfortunately, they want to receive free bitcoin gold for free money. Well, we can not stop them from doing that. there are many altcoins which have the potential in the future. Keep believe in cryptocurrencies and everything will be fine

Well if you look on the bright side, the volatility of the market actually pushes people to start using their bitcoins not just as a trading tool. This will help out the price of bitcoin in the long run because if fewer people are holding bitcoins and a majority of them want it, it will drive the price up for sure. Lucky will be the ones who managed to be patient and hodl on to their coins.

In the case of alt coins, it depends on if you are looking at it on a BTC stand point or on a FIAT stance. If on BTC, you will see a lot of alts die off since they would be worth dust if BTC keeps on rising. If on a FIAT perspective, some major ones like ETH, LTC and XMR will still be there as they have stabilized the value on their own.

Selling bitcoin fast is risky, only for long term investment for me. Altcoin can be sell fast but i think it is very possible to earn money with holding altcoins few months or longer

Focus and interest of people would really be bigger on bitcoin itself compared on altcoin.This is why we do really always see the supremacy of bitcoin among alts which we would normally see. Long term investment on bitcoin is somehow senseless already because we cant already expect for x2 x3 x4 easily considering on its price is already high and reaching even on x2 would really be hard as of now thats why people do really tend to go on alts.

Bitcoin is the coin that we need to invest for long term, because when time come past this crypto currency will multiply their value. When I started in bitcoin community their value was $2500 but now it was double now into $5000 and soon to be $7500. Growth of bitcoin was so fast and no limit so I have no doubt regarding long investment in bitcoin.

It seems like the best option is a good balance of both short quick trades of altcoins and most of the times holding bitcoins. I've lost a lot of bitcoins from holding onto altcoins that I thought would at the very least hang onto their bitcoin values. I'm trading to get more bitcoins, not fiat!

Holding altcoins for the long term has resulted in losses for the far majority of the people, not just you. There have only been a few altcoins that back in the days were good to hold till now, but as I said, that were only a few. Altcoins are only good for short term speculation purposes, where if you try to hold them for the long term, especially at current levels, it can only end bad. But then again, even short term altcoin trading isn't all that profitable -- it's just the luck that you depend on ultimately.

Well, In my humble option, Investing in bitcoin still profitable but never like before. I'm talking about this history:

Date	USD : 1 BTC
April 2011	1$
11 April 2013	$266
Apr 2014	$340 — $530
21 October 2017	$6180

That was the best time for investment, getting your money x200+, Now let just imagine that bitcoin price goes up to 12000$ and you invested already, so you will get just x2
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Bitcoin Boy.

You are absolutely right. Investment on long term is more risky. It has chance to loss capital also. On its opposite way holding which is far better than long term investment. Investment is profitable but everyone should know the right decision of it.

I think we'll see BTC at $7k in a couple months.

I agree with you, I lose alot of Bitcoin in altcoin trading that paired with BTC because the price of BTC increasing fast. Short term altcoin trading that paired with BTC will be minimize the risk and more safe, and if would like to hold altcoin like ETH  for long term investment for the better use paired ETH/USDT or other fiat currency.

That is the point. Market always have been such diversifying and you can’t find any best solution that is stable somehow. But now, for bitcoins and altcoins there are some specific and nonspecific trends from which you can predict to some extent about the future of market. Better is to sustain the whole stamina and invest in both with different portions and wait.

Staying updated with the news will always help with decision making. So many people have made some bad decisions today in their investments as they did not keep themselves up to date to what is happening around their investments. Hence many innovations are coming up every day, so many projects with prospects are being developed and only a matter of time until we see the early investors get the best. BTC will always be good to buy at anytime, whichever way.

Everything is good to invest, I trade altcoin only for short-term investments and still will exchange it with bitcoin. bitcoin still needs to be prioritized despite being full of FUDs, ethereum stagnant and often down, I consider it an active asset and only for the purposes of smart contract platform.

That is what market shows how Bitcoin is much powerful than altcoins.Indeed there is so many ICO has now being created because they believe in their ICO to be successful.And I think theres still alot of people have faith in long term investment in btc because btc is the main crypto and i believe it will reach its goal.Imagine 21 million usd equivalent to 1 btc.That is why they invest btc for long term.

That is why they are Alts anyway. They cannot always have the best of time and those ones with a good project backing for them that will make them useful in the community will have a longer life at the end, while some will just end up fading off until we forget they ever even existed.

BTC on the other hand is the legacy and will always have an edge but that does not mean if one finds a good project that can really generate interest, one should not invest in them. It is the long term after all.

We should even stop thinking about the returns but the value. Sure, everyone wants profit in the investment, but we should look at bitcoin beyond just the investment and see the value it brings and how we can tap into it. That is the easiest way it can help us in our decisions about buying at any price and reaping the benefits and holding as well without panicking when the price dips.

I believe bitcoin will definitely have values in million dollars then holding bitcoins as a long term investments is still a meaningful action. We cannot be sure about future but as per expert's speculations bitcoin may hit million dollar value too.

I could not agree more, and there is another problem associated with people that only get into bitcoin for it's price or for the profit it could bring, without actually considering the true value of the coin. If they don't think about it's true value, that should be the real reason for buying the coin and for supporting and as a consequence, making it's price rise, then they won't have any reason to hold or buy more it if the price falls, which would then result in a continued falling of the price. From this point of view, there would be no future for bitcoin.

Even on the best possible scenario, and from the point of view that the price is the real value of BTC and not it's applications and the possibilities it offers, there would still be no future for it. The price would stop increasing some day, so people would start selling, because from their perspective, BTC would have reached it's max value, so it would be time for them to cash out their profit (a typical bubble behavior).

We really need to try to "educate" people about bitcoin, so we can prevent this from happening.

I agree with your opinion but I still believe with bitcoin, even today many coin comes up. I choose to trade with bitcoin using long time period ( investment mindset ), not altcoin. I believe altcoin only follow bitcoin and never become the best like bitcoin itself. This is the part of risk we must face as investor/ trader and everyone has their own answer and strategy. They can cut loss or replace their money into another instrument. Just do that and good luck.

Keeping observant eye on the innovations on daily basis is very important for your long term or short term investment because this updated knowledge will surely help you in deciding about your decision. Long term investment is far better for thes investors who are financially safe and sound and are able to wait for long time.

There's gonna be long term investors in BTC but it's prolly less feasible and profitable as time goes on.  The market is volatile and uncertain and who knows how much sense it makes to buy and hold for the long term - is mostly seems to be a matter of opinion.

Getting insane returns buying and holding is going to be tough.  When BTC was $100 it only had to go up a few hundred bucks to quadruple your investment.  Now at over $5000, the price has to go up tens of thousands of dollars to get the same return.

The downside also gets scary real quick but Imma still try to hold for long term,

In the long term, BTC, according to many analysts, is a good investment.

I always believe in Bitcoin. Although in short-term the price maybe decreases, in the future its price will increase certainly. you should keep calm to get more profit.  ;)

Exactly, FUDs are there always in the way for blocking the fame of a certain thing. Bitcoin have faced so much FUDs recently and in the whole life of 9 years. But the only main goal should be to be confident. You have to maintain your trust on your coin.

Like you said, when you talk about altcoins and then bitcoins, short term and long term are still in market and they will be going to end.