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Title: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Benson Samuel on June 13, 2013, 09:42:02 PM
Butterfly Labs - Offering more, without any in hand.

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Dear Benson,

All customers with orders of 5GH/s (OR 4.5GH/s) products now have the opportunity to upgrade their products to 7GH/s.

Upgrades are added to your order before it enters production, resulting in a customized product. If you choose to upgrade your unit, your order cannot be refunded.

The upgrade link is visible in your account dashboard after you log into your account on our website: https://products.butterflylabs.com/customer/account/login/

Details:
-Upgrade from 5GH/s (or 4.5GH/s)  to 7GH/s for $100

These upgrades will not affect the shipping time of your unit or your placement in the order queue.

Thank you for your order, patience, and understanding.

Regards,
The BFL Team


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: kevindeangelis on June 13, 2013, 10:01:54 PM
yeah, I got the same thing today


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: tstang on June 14, 2013, 06:51:40 AM
Not sure if the are serious in upgrading or seriously trying to pull in more money before they disapp****


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Pinwheel on June 14, 2013, 06:56:37 AM
they shipped 100s 5ghs miners and started shipping SC 60ghs miners too, so things looking much beter.
they also offering chips 100 per order with 50% advance payment and  100 days delivery. They are getting on track slowly. I would say not so many companies will ever come back from where they were 6 months ago.

They need cash flow def, that is why offering upgrades, chips ect.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Benson Samuel on June 14, 2013, 11:05:59 AM
Not sure if the are serious in upgrading or seriously trying to pull in more money before they disapp****

Lot of people have gone ahead with the upgrade it seems.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Pinwheel on June 14, 2013, 11:59:03 AM
Not sure if the are serious in upgrading or seriously trying to pull in more money before they disapp****

Lot of people have gone ahead with the upgrade it seems.

if you have knowledge in electronics and multimeter, you can make such upgrade your self. Most probably it done by increasing on 1 or 2 volts of power. Sort of overclocking.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Benson Samuel on June 14, 2013, 12:00:29 PM


if you have knowledge in electronics and multimeter, you can make such upgrade your self. Most probably it done by increasing on 1 or 2 volts of power. Sort of overclocking.

Ur Blades are at 16 each right?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: rezurect on June 14, 2013, 02:18:12 PM
Overclocking ASICminer blades is provided for in its guide. Easy.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2iicpac.jpg
Power consumption changes correspondingly.
Power Consumption:
70-75W on 1.03-1.05V,
83W on 1.1V,
100W on 1.2V,
120W on 1.2V and overclocking


For BFL miners i dont think theyll release a guide if there charging for it ,even if it can be done via a trimmer or any component tuning. If it can be done via a component tuning,maybe somebodyll figure it out and post it publicly after they start reaching miners with a electronic modding backgrounds. Until then the upgrade might be the only way.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: bitman442 on June 14, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
This is old news, I upgraded my order last week. Anyway, Josh said that there will not be any physical difference with the upgraded units, it is just a different firmware and in time someone would figure out how to do it at home.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: americandesi on June 14, 2013, 03:28:41 PM
Butterfly Labs - Offering more, without any in hand.

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Dear Benson,

All customers with orders of 5GH/s (OR 4.5GH/s) products now have the opportunity to upgrade their products to 7GH/s.

Upgrades are added to your order before it enters production, resulting in a customized product. If you choose to upgrade your unit, your order cannot be refunded.

The upgrade link is visible in your account dashboard after you log into your account on our website: https://products.butterflylabs.com/customer/account/login/

Details:
-Upgrade from 5GH/s (or 4.5GH/s)  to 7GH/s for $100

These upgrades will not affect the shipping time of your unit or your placement in the order queue.

Thank you for your order, patience, and understanding.

Regards,
The BFL Team

I got that too. Is it worth it.?

P.S : Benson.. am yet to reply to your last email. A lot of things happened in last few days. Will write to you ASAP. Apologies for the delay.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Benson Samuel on June 14, 2013, 03:29:24 PM
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I got that too. Is it worth it.?

Not sure mate. Too dodgy for my liking, but its just 100 bucks..


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: escrow.ms on June 14, 2013, 03:44:22 PM
well update it, some peoples already got their 5GH jalapeno's and more will get soon, you will need that extra 2GH if difficulty rises.




Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: bitman442 on June 14, 2013, 06:37:22 PM
I got the upgrade because I am selling it. If I was keeping it I would wait and do it myself.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: escrow.ms on June 14, 2013, 06:58:07 PM
I got the upgrade because I am selling it. If I was keeping it I would wait and do it myself.
For how much you are selling it? and are you indian?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Pinwheel on June 15, 2013, 06:32:04 AM
Overclocking ASICminer blades is provided for in its guide. Easy.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2iicpac.jpg
Power consumption changes correspondingly.
Power Consumption:
70-75W on 1.03-1.05V,
83W on 1.1V,
100W on 1.2V,
120W on 1.2V and overclocking


For BFL miners i dont think theyll release a guide if there charging for it ,even if it can be done via a trimmer or any component tuning. If it can be done via a component tuning,maybe somebodyll figure it out and post it publicly after they start reaching miners with a electronic modding backgrounds. Until then the upgrade might be the only way.

why they would release info if they collecting money for upgrades. point is that, it is the same kind of upgrade, there is voltage regulator and there is inductor on Jally too. IF they can overclock it any can too.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: rezurect on June 17, 2013, 04:39:54 PM
BitFORCE SC Firmware version 1.2.5 Open Sourced.
Atmel Studio solution. Waiting for gcc compilation and following mod releases.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachments/announcements/1322d1371344709-bitforce-sc-firmware-version-1-2-5-bitforce_sc-1.2.5.zip

For DIY guys.
PCB Document in Altium DXP 2008
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachments/announcements/1328d1371408270-bitforce-sc-pcb-schematics-mainpcb.zip


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Benson Samuel on June 18, 2013, 09:34:19 AM
BitFORCE SC Firmware version 1.2.5 Open Sourced.
Atmel Studio solution. Waiting for gcc compilation and following mod releases.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachments/announcements/1322d1371344709-bitforce-sc-firmware-version-1-2-5-bitforce_sc-1.2.5.zip

For DIY guys.
PCB Document in Altium DXP 2008
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachments/announcements/1328d1371408270-bitforce-sc-pcb-schematics-mainpcb.zip

yeah, this is an awesome release.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Street Jammer on June 24, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
This will take ages to ship aw already waited like 6months now


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Amitabh S on June 25, 2013, 05:39:53 PM
Have they (BFL) started shipping, and which ones?
Is the rate of shipping items more than the rate at which they were ordered?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: aakashkumar on June 27, 2013, 05:09:35 AM
I would like to Order One / How Long It will Take  ship to india / does any one Received It  ?
contact me at Skype : aakashkumar4
 
:)


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Street Jammer on June 27, 2013, 01:58:05 PM
they keep asking for upgrade the order and they never ship crap BFL


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Benson Samuel on June 27, 2013, 01:59:23 PM
they keep asking for upgrade the order and they never ship crap BFL

One of my friends received 2. On their way.. I think.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: rezurect on June 27, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Not for the Faint of heart.

Jalapeno Flash howto.

This howto will walk you through flashing your BFL Jalapeno.

PLEASE NOTE: THIS WORKS FOR ME. HOWEVER I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU BRICK YOUR JALLY. MY JALLY IS A "HOT" MOSFET UNIT AND I HAVE EXTRA COOLING. EVEN "GOOD" MOSFET JALLYS SHOULD USE EXTRA COOLING AS STOCK JALLYS ONLY GO TO 7 GHS, THIS CAN TAKE YOU TO 8+.

not all jallys will reach this, depends on the chip grades you have. my 5 ghs has two good chips, 15 engines each. YMMV.

AFAIK all jallys with aluminum heatsinks are "good" mosfet jallys. look at Q1-12, if you have 2 different sizes [6 one size, 6 another] this is a unit with "good" mosfets - you should be good to go. mine is a "hot" mosfet jally (all mosfets same size) and with LOTS of additional airflow Im OK. but HEATSINKS ON YOUR MOSFETS (AND 1850 CHIP IF YOU CAN GET TO IT) ARE A GOOD IDEA.

seems at least some 7 ghs jallys (and 7s only?) come with heatsinks on the mosfets now. see warhark187s post here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244235.msg2590886#msg2590886).

temps @ 23 C ambient, caseless, top fan blowing down, with 120v 22 watt "muffin" side fan:

before flash  30C 3.1v
after flash 37C 3.1v

WHAT YOU NEED:

source code from BFL
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3282-bitforce-sc-firmware-version-1-2-5-a.html

and/or

the .hex file from BFL, just in case you have trouble compiling it (I did initially).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235312.0

atmel studio 6.1 - I grabbed the Full installer (806 MB)
http://www.atmel.com/tools/ATMELSTUDIO.aspx

AVRDragon:
http://www.atmel.com/tools/AVRDRAGON.aspx

digikey seems to have the dragon also.. I had already ordered from atmel though.. DOH
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ATAVRDRAGON/ATAVRDRAGON-ND/1124251

USB AB cable for the Dragon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=usb+ab+cable&N=100006519&isNodeId=1

10 pin JTAG cable.
something like this . its just the 1st link I found
http://compare.ebay.com/like/190681930364?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

I just cut down a 40 conductor IDE cable. (mine is cut to 2x6 as i was sloppy)

https://i.imgur.com/iX2dvjP.jpg

thermal tape or paste if you disassemble your jally. the chips are bare silicon so I recommend you reuse the tape and just add some paste to fill on the voids if the tape falls apart. or just use new thermal tape. using paste alone is a good way to crack the chips if you are not VERY careful. the tape helps cushion the heatsink.

cgminer 3.3.1 - its the earliest version that will properly handle the 1.2.5 firmware jally. my picture below shows 3.2.2 but I compiled from git just before 3.3.1 was released.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.0

my heatpipe jally had plenty of clearance for the middle (now end) IDE connector to slip on without removing the heatsink.

aluminum heatsinks probably will require you to remove it to get the cable on the jtag connector. if you cant get the heatsink back on with the cable attached you will need to find a way to keep the chips cool while you program them. right after programming they will be tested so will generate some heat. danattacker used the metal backplate pressed down on the top of the chips after he masked off the surrounding areas with masking tape.

SEE DANATTACKERS POST BELOW (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244235.msg2590307#msg2590307) ON ALUMINUM HEATSINK JALAPENOS. DO NOT RUN YOUR JALLY WITH NO HEATSINK!!



ATTACH THE CABLE: (IMPORTANT: REMOVE THE BLACK ANTISTATIC PADS FROM THE DRAGON BOX BEFORE POWERING IT UP IF YOU RUN IT IN THE BOX AS I DID)

power off the dragon and jally. connect one end to JTAG on the dragon, the other to JTAG 1 on the jally. MAKE SURE PIN 1 GOES TO PIN 1! plug the dragons USB and the jallys USB cable into the computer (the dragon did not recognize my jally until I had the jallys USB cable plugged into the computer). the dragon draws power from USB so it will come right up. then plug the jallys power cable in.

https://i.imgur.com/5kzp0oj.jpg

CLEAR THE JALLY.

my 1.0.0 firmware 5 ghs jally had the security bit set.. which means you cant program it or read the firmware. so to clear it you need to erase the chip. THIS MEANS THIS IS A ONE WAY TICKET.

[THIS SECTION I WILL FILL IN MORE A BIT LATER WITH SCREENSHOTS AND STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS. I DONT HAVE THE JALLY IN FRONT OF ME AND HOOKED UP SO I CANT DO INCLUDE ANYTHING ATM - JUST GOING FROM MEMORY BUT ITS EASY]

fire up Atmel Studio 6.1. hit Tools, Device Programming. under Tool, chose "Dragon" under Device, choose "AT32UC3A1256" at this point it will probably want to flash your dragon to the latest version. let it, it will take a few minutes. when its done, hit "apply", it should read your device signature. then click "read" and all sorts of info should be displayed. youre ready to go. hit "erase" NO TURNING BACK NOW!

PROGRAM IN THE .HEX file

chose .hex image you grabbed before and chose "program" - thats pretty much it. dont even need to compile anything, or even unplug the JTAG cable.. just fire up cgminer and watch it go. cgminer had several false starts initializing it but after a minute or so it dug in and was mining.

https://i.imgur.com/IQChCkL.jpg

stats output after flash:

Code:
DEVICE: BitFORCE SC0x0aFIRMWARE: 1.2.50x0aIAR Executed: NO0x0aCHIP PARALLELIZATION: YES @ 20x0aQUEUE DEPTH:400x0aPROCESSOR 3: 15 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFFE0x0aPROCESSOR 7: 15 engines @ 281 MHz -- MAP: FFFE0x0aTHEORETICAL MAX: 8220 MH/s0x0aENGINES: 300x0aFREQUENCY: 274 MHz0x0aXLINK MODE: MASTER0x0aCRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 00x0aXLINK PRESENT: YES0x0aDEVICES IN CHAIN: 10x0aCHAIN PRESENCE MASK: 000000010x0aOK0x0a0x00



Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Amitabh S on August 30, 2013, 07:46:14 AM
is BFL at it yet again? Selling stuff they may not deliver...

see following email received by customers.

Dear XYZ,

We're excited to announce our 4th-generation bitcoin miner, the 28nm Monarch BPU. The Monarch is our 2nd-generation bitcoin ASIC chip design. Our first generation 65nm chip has allowed us to develop new simulation models that should be far more accurate in power and performance predictions, as well as allowing us to optimize the new generation for better power efficiency & performance gains that would otherwise not be possible. We're very pleased with the results.

Speed:  600GH/s   Power:  350W   Price:  $4,680.00

New Form Factor:  The Monarch introduces an innovation to the ASIC mining industry in the form of its PCIe capable form factor. Although the Monarch has a USB port and can be run externally as a computer peripheral just like the existing models, its PCI capability makes it perfectly suited for large scale data center deployments using common low-cost 4U enclosures.

For more information and an in depth Q&A, visit the Monarch information page at butterflylabs.com.



Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Pinwheel on August 30, 2013, 09:19:16 AM
they keep asking for upgrade the order and they never ship crap BFL

One of my friends received 2. On their way.. I think.

my second 60ghs Single ordered  07/05/2012 order  2831 been shipped on 26/08/2013

fist single mining non stop from the day it been received, no complains. Little noisy, once second unit received I will place both in server rack and remove covers.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: goxed on September 06, 2013, 05:32:34 AM
they keep asking for upgrade the order and they never ship crap BFL

One of my friends received 2. On their way.. I think.

my second 60ghs Single ordered  07/05/2012 order  2831 been shipped on 26/08/2013

fist single mining non stop from the day it been received, no complains. Little noisy, once second unit received I will place both in server rack and remove covers.

You are really lucky. How much is customs duty for these miners in India.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs at it again
Post by: Pinwheel on September 06, 2013, 07:04:57 AM
they keep asking for upgrade the order and they never ship crap BFL

One of my friends received 2. On their way.. I think.

my second 60ghs Single ordered  07/05/2012 order  2831 been shipped on 26/08/2013

fist single mining non stop from the day it been received, no complains. Little noisy, once second unit received I will place both in server rack and remove covers.

You are really lucky. How much is customs duty for these miners in India.

received second one yesterday. It come this time with good bronze rating Evega PSU 500w, deployment was easy, not a single key were punched on keyboard. connected wire and cgminer picked it up and started mining. from box to operation for less then 5 minutes.  BFL shipped both miners by USPS express and it happens to become Speedpost in India. Each time I have to go to Mumbai and "fix" it.  On paper duty was 4000 INR.

I'm glad that it is over now. Planing to sale both units, making space for Bitfury.